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Quote (Ed J @ June 03 2013,21:04) Hi Wakeup, YOU say Jesus' work wasn't finished, even though Jesus said that it was?
Should I believe you or Jesus (<– please answer)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
“Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.” (1 Tim 1:7)June 3, 2013 at 11:37 am#346278WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 03 2013,21:24) Quote (Ed J @ June 03 2013,21:04) Hi Wakeup, YOU say Jesus' work wasn't finished, even though Jesus said that it was?
Should I believe you or Jesus (<– please answer)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
“Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.” (1 Tim 1:7)
EDJ.Its plain common sense.
The seed has been planted its growing for 2000years,but with the weed is also growing.
Next would be the reaping.(2nd coming).
Once the reaping is done,then the storing.
Only the corn will be stored;saved.
The weed burned.Then Christ and his saints will work on the jews,for a 1000yrs.( the natural olive branches grafted back to the natural olive tree).
They will sow the seed on the jews in paradise restored.
And the jews also will start sowing the seed on the remnants of the gentiles,outside the kingdom. And the gentiles also will sow the seed on other gentiles untill all seed is sown.
**This is only the first dominion**.Then satan will be let loose to draw all the weed to his side.
and come against the holy people in the kingdom.
(the battle of gog and magog).
They all will be destroyed with satan.Then comes the big harvest,of all the dead, of all generations and nations,and they all will be judged.
This is the white throne judgement.
The corn will be put on the right,and the weed on the left.The corn will be stored;and the weed burned.
Now only the corn is in existence;all the weed is no more.Now comes the cleansing of the planet earth and the heavens. All are spirit now in heaven waiting to come back to the new heavens and the new earth.
**This is the second dominion**.Holy jerusalem, the city of God,coming down to earth,and God will be there, and dwell amongst us ,and we can see him face to face. amen.
wakeup.
June 3, 2013 at 1:02 pm#346286Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,22:37) EDJ. Its plain common sense.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Its plain common sense that I should believe you or Jesus?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 3, 2013 at 1:13 pm#346287WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,00:02) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,22:37) EDJ. Its plain common sense.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Its plain common sense that I should believe you or Jesus?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.You interpret Jesus words to fit in with your doctrine.
But it does not make sense.He finished his 3/half years work;and that is to sow the seed, and to be sacrificed. Thats done.
Now he is next to his father;waiting untill his father put all his enemies under his feet.
This means; job to be continued,after all his enemies are put under his feet.
He is still waiting,because all his enemies are not put under his feet yet. Job not finish;still waitng for second round.wakeup.
June 3, 2013 at 1:26 pm#346289journey42ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,14:56) THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB WILL BE *AFTER* THE NEW HEAVEN AND THE NEW EARTH: WHEN CHRIST FINISHED ALL HIS WORK ON EARTH. Revelation 21:1 And I saw **a new heaven and a new earth**: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was *no more sea*. SPIRIT CREATURES DONT NEED WATER,OR AIR TO BREATH.
Revelation 21:2 And I John saw **the holy city**, *new Jerusalem*, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared **as a bride** adorned for her husband.
THE BRIDE IS THE HOLY CITY,NOT US; AS AN UNDIVIDUAL.
WE ARE THE INVITED GUESTS. HIS BRIDE WILL ONLY COME DOWN WHEN CHRIST HAS FINISHED HIS WORK ON EARTH. AND HIS FINISH PRODUCT WILL BE A TRUE AND CLEAN WORSHIP.LIKE AN UNBLEMISHED VIRGIN.Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, **the tabernacle of God** is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
THE HOLY CITY IS THE TABERNACLE OF GOD. THIS WILL BE AFTER THE NEW EARTH IS ESTABLISHED.
WHY IS THE CITY IN HEAVEN? BECAUSE THE NEW EARTH IS BEING WORKED ON;ITS IN PROGRESS. AND THE TRUE WORSHIPPERS ARE IN HEAVEN.Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be **no more death*, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH;ALL THE FORMER ARE PASSED AWAY. DEATH HAS BEEN CONQUERED AFTER SATAN IS CAST IN THE FIRE. AFTER GOG AND MAGOG THE LAST WAR WITH SATAN, AND HIS FOLLOWERS.
GOG AND MAGOG IS SATANS LAST ATTEMPT OF CONQUERRING JESUS TRUE FOLLOWERS IN THE KINGDOM.Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Revelation 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him **that is athirst** of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the **second death**.
THE SECOND DEATH IS AFTER THE SECOND JUDGEMENT.
THE WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT.THIS IS ALSO WHEN SATAN WILL BE CAST IN THE FIRE.
HE WAS SPARED AT THE SECOND COMING,BUT CAST IN PRISON. ONLY THE TERRIBLE BEAST, AND THE FALSE PROPHET WERE CAST IN THE FIRE.(REV.19:20).**DESCRIPTION OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST; BELOW**:
Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee ***the bride, the Lamb's wife***.Revelation 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that **great city, the holy Jerusalem**, descending out of heaven from God,
THE LAMBS WIFE IS *A GREAT CITY;HOLY JERUSALEM*.***DESCRIPTION OF THE HOLY CITY ;BELOW***.
Revelation 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;(CLEAN WORSHIP).Revelation 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had *twelve gates*, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
THE GATES ARE WHERE WE ENTER; THROUGH THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL;FROM THIS STARTING PIONT WE ENTER INTO GODS DOMAIN.
THIS IS OUR START IN KNOWING GOD,AND THEN NEXT IS THROUGH THE 12 APOSTLES.Revelation 21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
Revelation 21:14 And the *wall of the city* had twelve *foundations*, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
**THE FOUNDATIONS** OF *THE WALL* ARE THE 12 APOSTLES TEACHINGS; THE GOSPELS.Revelation 21:15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
Revelation 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
SINCE THIS CITY HAS A BOUNDARY; THIS CITY WOULD BE THE 1000YR KINGDOM ON EARTH,IN ISRAEL.NO OUTSIDERS CAN ENTER,UNLESS INVITED.Revelation 21:17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
COULD BE THE 144000 ELECT.NOT SURE.Revelation 21:18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
Revelation 21:19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
Revelation 21:20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
Revelation 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
THE FOUNDATIONS OF *THE WALL* ARE THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL.Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Revelation 21:23 And the city had *no need* of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
IT DOES NOT SAY THERE IS NO SUN OR MOON,BUT THAT THEY HAVE THE SPIRITUAL LIGHT OF GOD.Revelation 21:24 And **the nations** of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
THE SAVED WILL WALK IN THE LIGHT OF THAT CITY.
THE INVITED GUESTS. IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE NATIONS AND KINGS AROUND; THAT ARE SAVED WILL COME IN AND JOIN. SO THERE ARE *NATIONS AND KINGS*;THIS MUST BE THE 1000YR KINGDOM.Revelation 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
THERE SHALL BE NO DARKNESS,FOR KNOWLEDGE SHALL COVER THE EARTH AS THE SEA COVER THE EARTH.Revelation 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
FROM WHERE; INTO WHERE? FROM THE SAVED NATIONS OUT SIDE INTO THE KINGDOM.Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
AS YOU CAN SEE; WE ARE NOT THE BRIDE,BUT THE INVITED GUESTS.WE ARE THE INHABITANCE OF THAT CITY.NOW WE KNOW THAT THE BRIDE IS **A HOLY CITY**.
WHAT IS THIS HOLY CITY?
THIS HOLY CITY IS ZION;ITS OUR *TRUE WORSHIP*;THE *TRUE SPIRIT OF OUR WORSHIP*.
WORSHIPPING GOD AS A TRUE VIRGIN,WITH NO CONTAMINATIONS;WITHOUT BLEMISH.
SHE WAS CREATD BY JESUS,AND NOW SHE IS FINISHED
AND READY TO BE UNITED AS HIS BRIDE.WE WILL BE THE INVITED GUESTS OF THE WEDDING. OF THE UNITING.
THIS WEDDING IS SYMBOLICAL.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup.That was so well explained and so clear. Thank you.
June 3, 2013 at 1:44 pm#346291Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,00:13) Edj. (1)You interpret Jesus words to fit in with your doctrine.
But it does not make sense.He finished his 3/half years work;and that is to sow the seed, and to be sacrificed. Thats done.
Now he is next to his father;waiting untill his father put all his enemies under his feet.
(2)This means; job to be continued,after all his enemies are put under his feet.
He is still waiting,because all his enemies are not put under his feet yet. Job not finish;still waitng for second round.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) What doesn't make sense?
2) Jesus said his work on earth was “FINISHED”!
“I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.” (John 17:4)
Why do you disagree with Jesus' words, is it to fit your doctrine?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 3, 2013 at 2:04 pm#346293WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,00:44) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,00:13) Edj. (1)You interpret Jesus words to fit in with your doctrine.
But it does not make sense.He finished his 3/half years work;and that is to sow the seed, and to be sacrificed. Thats done.
Now he is next to his father;waiting untill his father put all his enemies under his feet.
(2)This means; job to be continued,after all his enemies are put under his feet.
He is still waiting,because all his enemies are not put under his feet yet. Job not finish;still waitng for second round.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) What doesn't make sense?
2) Jesus said his work on earth was “FINISHED”!
“I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.” (John 17:4)
Why do you disagree with Jesus' words, is it to fit your doctrine?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDj.I did not disagree with what Jesus said.
But how you interpret it.Common sense should tell you that one does not sow today and have a harvest tomorrow.
wakeup.
June 3, 2013 at 2:12 pm#346294Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:04) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,00:44) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,00:13) Edj. (1)You interpret Jesus words to fit in with your doctrine.
But it does not make sense.He finished his 3/half years work;and that is to sow the seed, and to be sacrificed. Thats done.
Now he is next to his father;waiting untill his father put all his enemies under his feet.
(2)This means; job to be continued,after all his enemies are put under his feet.
He is still waiting,because all his enemies are not put under his feet yet. Job not finish;still waitng for second round.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) What doesn't make sense?
2) Jesus said his work on earth was “FINISHED”!
“I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.” (John 17:4)
Why do you disagree with Jesus' words, is it to fit your doctrine?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDj.I did not disagree with what Jesus said.
But how you interpret it.Common sense should tell you that one does not sow today and have a harvest tomorrow.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,How do you interpret it?
Do you consider Jesus (as Mike does) to be an Angel?
“the reapers are the angels.” (Matt 13:39)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 3, 2013 at 2:16 pm#346295WakeupParticipantQuote (journey42 @ June 04 2013,00:26) Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,14:56) THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB WILL BE *AFTER* THE NEW HEAVEN AND THE NEW EARTH: WHEN CHRIST FINISHED ALL HIS WORK ON EARTH. Revelation 21:1 And I saw **a new heaven and a new earth**: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was *no more sea*. SPIRIT CREATURES DONT NEED WATER,OR AIR TO BREATH.
Revelation 21:2 And I John saw **the holy city**, *new Jerusalem*, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared **as a bride** adorned for her husband.
THE BRIDE IS THE HOLY CITY,NOT US; AS AN UNDIVIDUAL.
WE ARE THE INVITED GUESTS. HIS BRIDE WILL ONLY COME DOWN WHEN CHRIST HAS FINISHED HIS WORK ON EARTH. AND HIS FINISH PRODUCT WILL BE A TRUE AND CLEAN WORSHIP.LIKE AN UNBLEMISHED VIRGIN.Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, **the tabernacle of God** is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
THE HOLY CITY IS THE TABERNACLE OF GOD. THIS WILL BE AFTER THE NEW EARTH IS ESTABLISHED.
WHY IS THE CITY IN HEAVEN? BECAUSE THE NEW EARTH IS BEING WORKED ON;ITS IN PROGRESS. AND THE TRUE WORSHIPPERS ARE IN HEAVEN.Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be **no more death*, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH;ALL THE FORMER ARE PASSED AWAY. DEATH HAS BEEN CONQUERED AFTER SATAN IS CAST IN THE FIRE. AFTER GOG AND MAGOG THE LAST WAR WITH SATAN, AND HIS FOLLOWERS.
GOG AND MAGOG IS SATANS LAST ATTEMPT OF CONQUERRING JESUS TRUE FOLLOWERS IN THE KINGDOM.Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Revelation 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him **that is athirst** of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the **second death**.
THE SECOND DEATH IS AFTER THE SECOND JUDGEMENT.
THE WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT.THIS IS ALSO WHEN SATAN WILL BE CAST IN THE FIRE.
HE WAS SPARED AT THE SECOND COMING,BUT CAST IN PRISON. ONLY THE TERRIBLE BEAST, AND THE FALSE PROPHET WERE CAST IN THE FIRE.(REV.19:20).**DESCRIPTION OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST; BELOW**:
Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee ***the bride, the Lamb's wife***.Revelation 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that **great city, the holy Jerusalem**, descending out of heaven from God,
THE LAMBS WIFE IS *A GREAT CITY;HOLY JERUSALEM*.***DESCRIPTION OF THE HOLY CITY ;BELOW***.
Revelation 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;(CLEAN WORSHIP).Revelation 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had *twelve gates*, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
THE GATES ARE WHERE WE ENTER; THROUGH THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL;FROM THIS STARTING PIONT WE ENTER INTO GODS DOMAIN.
THIS IS OUR START IN KNOWING GOD,AND THEN NEXT IS THROUGH THE 12 APOSTLES.Revelation 21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
Revelation 21:14 And the *wall of the city* had twelve *foundations*, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
**THE FOUNDATIONS** OF *THE WALL* ARE THE 12 APOSTLES TEACHINGS; THE GOSPELS.Revelation 21:15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
Revelation 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
SINCE THIS CITY HAS A BOUNDARY; THIS CITY WOULD BE THE 1000YR KINGDOM ON EARTH,IN ISRAEL.NO OUTSIDERS CAN ENTER,UNLESS INVITED.Revelation 21:17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
COULD BE THE 144000 ELECT.NOT SURE.Revelation 21:18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
Revelation 21:19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
Revelation 21:20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
Revelation 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
THE FOUNDATIONS OF *THE WALL* ARE THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL.Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Revelation 21:23 And the city had *no need* of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
IT DOES NOT SAY THERE IS NO SUN OR MOON,BUT THAT THEY HAVE THE SPIRITUAL LIGHT OF GOD.Revelation 21:24 And **the nations** of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
THE SAVED WILL WALK IN THE LIGHT OF THAT CITY.
THE INVITED GUESTS. IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE NATIONS AND KINGS AROUND; THAT ARE SAVED WILL COME IN AND JOIN. SO THERE ARE *NATIONS AND KINGS*;THIS MUST BE THE 1000YR KINGDOM.Revelation 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
THERE SHALL BE NO DARKNESS,FOR KNOWLEDGE SHALL COVER THE EARTH AS THE SEA COVER THE EARTH.Revelation 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
FROM WHERE; INTO WHERE? FROM THE SAVED NATIONS OUT SIDE INTO THE KINGDOM.Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
AS YOU CAN SEE; WE ARE NOT THE BRIDE,BUT THE INVITED GUESTS.WE ARE THE INHABITANCE OF THAT CITY.NOW WE KNOW THAT THE BRIDE IS **A HOLY CITY**.
WHAT IS THIS HOLY CITY?
THIS HOLY CITY IS ZION;ITS OUR *TRUE WORSHIP*;THE *TRUE SPIRIT OF OUR WORSHIP*.
WORSHIPPING GOD AS A TRUE VIRGIN,WITH NO CONTAMINATIONS;WITHOUT BLEMISH.
SHE WAS CREATD BY JESUS,AND NOW SHE IS FINISHED
AND READY TO BE UNITED AS HIS BRIDE.WE WILL BE THE INVITED GUESTS OF THE WEDDING. OF THE UNITING.
THIS WEDDING IS SYMBOLICAL.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup.That was so well explained and so clear. Thank you.
Thank you Journey.
If the eye dont want to see,it can not see.Long time no see,how are you doing?
wakeup.
June 3, 2013 at 2:50 pm#346299Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:16) Thank you Journey.
If the eye dont want to see,it can not see.Long time no see,how are you doing?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus said:
“Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3)Have you been “Born Again”? (<– please answer)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 3, 2013 at 3:58 pm#346302WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,01:50) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:16) Thank you Journey.
If the eye dont want to see,it can not see.Long time no see,how are you doing?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus said:
“Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3)Have you been “Born Again”? (<– please answer)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.Not the way you see it.
I have been a naughty boy,but I have turned 180degrees.
Now I am seen as boring to my fam. but I understand that when you have come out of babylon,you are not of babylon.
And therefore you become a stranger to babylon.The world loves its own. Jesus said: you will be hated,because they hated me; you will be persecuted,because they have persecuted me.
No one is considered born again after babtism.
Although many love to believe that,because its so easy.
Just have a swim; and you are a new person.Sorry to say, but this is not so.
Just to have a renewing of the mind takes time and sacrifice.
Babylon is full of temptations; one must be dedicated to refuse any temptations.Sometimes the flesh can be stronger that the spirit.
The flesh will always say; just one more time.
That is when satan will rub his hands together.To be born again physically,is when you are resurrected out of Zions womb. Then you will be physically spirit. For Zion she is spirit.
wakeup.
June 3, 2013 at 4:09 pm#346303Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,02:58) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,01:50) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:16) Thank you Journey.
If the eye dont want to see,it can not see.Long time no see,how are you doing?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus said:
“Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3)Have you been “Born Again”? (<– please answer)
God bless
Ed J
Edj.Not the way you see it.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I'm concerned with the way YOU see it!
So is that a “No” then? …or a “Yes”?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 3, 2013 at 4:20 pm#346304Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,02:58) Edj. Not the way you see it.
I have been a naughty boy,but I have turned 180degrees.
Now I am seen as boring to my fam. but I understand that when you have come out of babylon,you are not of babylon.
And therefore you become a stranger to babylon.The world loves its own. Jesus said: you will be hated,because they hated me; you will be persecuted,because they have persecuted me.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,“I”, neither hate you nor persecute you and, not part of Babylon either.
What I'm interested in, is finding out your opinions of Scripture.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 3, 2013 at 4:21 pm#346305Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,02:58) Edj. No one is considered born again after babtism.
Although many love to believe that,because its so easy.
Just have a swim; and you are a new person.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Correct, one is “Born Again” after being birthed by God's HolySpirit, and not after water baptism.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 3, 2013 at 11:37 pm#346345942767ParticipantHi Ed:
What about the following scriptures:
Quote 1Cr 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Cr 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Quote 1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Quote Mat 24:29 ¶ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Love in Christ,
MartyJune 3, 2013 at 11:45 pm#346347journey42ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:16) Thank you Journey.
If the eye dont want to see,it can not see.Long time no see,how are you doing?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup
I am good thanks.
I have been reading all these posts and since you are doing an excellent job explaining, I have felt no need to jump in at this time. I am learning of your answers with the scriptures you give and I hope the others are too. You teach well. I will join in soon and see you in person soon.Ed, he's got you hook, line and sinker, everytime, and it's all according to the truth, not according to his intellegence. It's the one + one = two thing also.
June 4, 2013 at 12:15 am#346353WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,03:09) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,02:58) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,01:50) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:16) Thank you Journey.
If the eye dont want to see,it can not see.Long time no see,how are you doing?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus said:
“Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3)Have you been “Born Again”? (<– please answer)
God bless
Ed J
Edj.Not the way you see it.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I'm concerned with the way YOU see it!
So is that a “No” then? …or a “Yes”?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.STILL REFUSING TO SEE?
1. Born as of the rewing of the mind. YES.
2.Born as physically. NO.wakeup.
June 4, 2013 at 3:47 am#346400Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,11:15) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,03:09) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,02:58) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,01:50) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:16) Thank you Journey.
If the eye dont want to see,it can not see.Long time no see,how are you doing?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus said:
“Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3)Have you been “Born Again”? (<– please answer)
God bless
Ed J
Edj.Not the way you see it.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I'm concerned with the way YOU see it!
So is that a “No” then? …or a “Yes”?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.STILL REFUSING TO SEE?
1. Born as of the rewing of the mind. YES.
2.Born as physically. NO.wakeup.
So have YOU been “Born Again” as per what Jesus said in John 3:3? “Yes” or “No”?June 4, 2013 at 3:48 am#346401Ed JParticipantQuote (942767 @ June 04 2013,10:37) Hi Ed: What about the following scriptures:
Quote 1Cr 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Cr 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Quote 1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Quote Mat 24:29 ¶ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty,What about them?
I could post the entire book of Acts,
and then say (to you) what about the book of Acts?
And then would you not say: “What about the book of Acts?”
So if you are 'trying' to make a point, please do so; don't keep me guessing.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 4, 2013 at 3:49 am#346402Ed JParticipantQuote (journey42 @ June 04 2013,10:45) Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2013,01:16) Thank you Journey.
If the eye dont want to see,it can not see.Long time no see,how are you doing?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup
I am good thanks.
I have been reading all these posts and since you are doing an excellent job explaining, I have felt no need to jump in at this time. I am learning of your answers with the scriptures you give and I hope the others are too. You teach well. I will join in soon and see you in person soon.Ed, he's got you hook, line and sinker, everytime, and it's all according to the truth, not according to his intellegence. It's the one + one = two thing also.
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