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  • #340527
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,00:18)
    J42

    What it mean,earth quake ???

    What it mean: TRUMPET sound ???

    What it mean: seal ???

    What it mean : bowl ???

    And why are those seals and bowl s numbered ???


    Terra.

    Why are the 10 commandments numbered?
    Why are there 7 numbered seals?
    Why are the days numbered.
    Why are the months and years numbered?

    wakeup.

    #340530
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,00:18)
    J42

    What it mean,earth quake ???

    What it mean: TRUMPET sound ???

    What it mean: seal ???

    What it mean : bowl ???

    And why are those seals and bowl s numbered ???


    Terra.

    Your questions are mind boggling.
    Why are the commandments numbered?
    why are the days numbered?
    why are the months numbered?
    Why Is your house numbered?

    What it means earth quake? What else could it mean.
    What it means trumpet sound? Have you never heard a trumpet sound?
    What it means seals? Have you never seen sealed envelopes
    What it means bowl? Have you no bowls in your kitchen

    wakeup.

    #340533
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 02 2013,20:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,00:18)
    J42

    What it mean,earth quake ???

    What it mean: TRUMPET sound ???

    What it mean: seal ???

    What it mean : bowl ???

    And why are those seals and bowl s numbered ???


    Terra.

    Your questions are mind boggling.
    Why are the commandments numbered?
    why are the days numbered?
    why are the months numbered?
    Why Is your house numbered?

    What it means earth quake? What else could it mean.
    What it means trumpet sound? Have you never heard a trumpet sound?
    What it means seals? Have you never seen sealed envelopes
    What it means bowl? Have you no bowls in your kitchen
     

    wakeup.


    Waup

    So you do not know right ???

    #340536
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,02:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 02 2013,20:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,00:18)
    J42

    What it mean,earth quake ???

    What it mean: TRUMPET sound ???

    What it mean: seal ???

    What it mean : bowl ???

    And why are those seals and bowl s numbered ???


    Terra.

    Your questions are mind boggling.
    Why are the commandments numbered?
    why are the days numbered?
    why are the months numbered?
    Why Is your house numbered?

    What it means earth quake? What else could it mean.
    What it means trumpet sound? Have you never heard a trumpet sound?
    What it means seals? Have you never seen sealed envelopes
    What it means bowl? Have you no bowls in your kitchen
     

    wakeup.


    Waup

    So you do not know right ???


    Terra.

    I dont know your way of thinking.

    What is the meaning of the woman with the cup in her hand?
    What is the meaning of the cup?

    wakeup.

    #340537
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 02 2013,22:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,02:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 02 2013,20:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,00:18)
    J42

    What it mean,earth quake ???

    What it mean: TRUMPET sound ???

    What it mean: seal ???

    What it mean : bowl ???

    And why are those seals and bowl s numbered ???


    Terra.

    Your questions are mind boggling.
    Why are the commandments numbered?
    why are the days numbered?
    why are the months numbered?
    Why Is your house numbered?

    What it means earth quake? What else could it mean.
    What it means trumpet sound? Have you never heard a trumpet sound?
    What it means seals? Have you never seen sealed envelopes
    What it means bowl? Have you no bowls in your kitchen
     

    wakeup.


    Waup

    So you do not know right ???


    Terra.

    I dont know your way of thinking.

    What is the meaning of the woman with the cup in her hand?
    What is the meaning of the cup?

    wakeup.


    Waup

    I will answer you wen you answer my questions ,

    You can not go one tuning the table to all each time you seem not knowing the answers

    #340546
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,04:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 02 2013,22:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,02:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 02 2013,20:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,00:18)
    J42

    What it mean,earth quake ???

    What it mean: TRUMPET sound ???

    What it mean: seal ???

    What it mean : bowl ???

    And why are those seals and bowl s numbered ???


    Terra.

    Your questions are mind boggling.
    Why are the commandments numbered?
    why are the days numbered?
    why are the months numbered?
    Why Is your house numbered?

    What it means earth quake? What else could it mean.
    What it means trumpet sound? Have you never heard a trumpet sound?
    What it means seals? Have you never seen sealed envelopes
    What it means bowl? Have you no bowls in your kitchen
     

    wakeup.


    Waup

    So you do not know right ???


    Terra.

    I dont know your way of thinking.

    What is the meaning of the woman with the cup in her hand?
    What is the meaning of the cup?

    wakeup.


    Waup

    I will answer you wen you answer my questions ,

    You can not go one tuning the table to all each time you seem not knowing the answers


    Terra.

    No need to answer that,because I know what a cup is used for,and I also know what a bowl or vial is used for.
    Its to put some liquid in,like water,or juice,or soup.

    Prophetically its is used to contain the wrath of God.
    *Pouring out* the wrath of God unto the earth.
    His anger is poured out.

    wakeup.

    #340549
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 03 2013,00:42)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,04:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 02 2013,22:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,02:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 02 2013,20:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,00:18)
    J42

    What it mean,earth quake ???

    What it mean: TRUMPET sound ???

    What it mean: seal ???

    What it mean : bowl ???

    And why are those seals and bowl s numbered ???


    Terra.

    Your questions are mind boggling.
    Why are the commandments numbered?
    why are the days numbered?
    why are the months numbered?
    Why Is your house numbered?

    What it means earth quake? What else could it mean.
    What it means trumpet sound? Have you never heard a trumpet sound?
    What it means seals? Have you never seen sealed envelopes
    What it means bowl? Have you no bowls in your kitchen
     

    wakeup.


    Waup

    So you do not know right ???


    Terra.

    I dont know your way of thinking.

    What is the meaning of the woman with the cup in her hand?
    What is the meaning of the cup?

    wakeup.


    Waup

    I will answer you wen you answer my questions ,

    You can not go one tuning the table to all each time you seem not knowing the answers


    Terra.

    No need to answer that,because I know what a cup is used for,and I also know what a bowl or vial is used for.
    Its to put some liquid in,like water,or juice,or soup.

    Prophetically its is used to contain the wrath of God.
    *Pouring out* the wrath of God unto the earth.
    His anger is poured out.

    wakeup.


    Waup

    You mised the most important description of it ,

    But yes you are wright on in general speaking therms

    But that does not answer my questions right ??? Yes so ??????

    #340561
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ April 02 2013,23:51)

    Quote (Resting @ April 01 2013,18:12)


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    Christ returns in the 6th seal at the 7th trumpet–

    Resting,
    We both agree that Christ comes at the 7th trumpet.
    I say the 7th trumpet is on the 7th Seal,
    and you the 7th trumpet is on the 6th Seal.

    I see why you say this.
    The way it is written out in Rev,
    it appears this way.
    The 6th seal just talks about the coming.  Nothing else.
    That great and dreadful day to the world.

    The 7th seal explains all the trumpets.
    The key here is that all the trumpets lead up to the coming of the Lord on the 7th trump.

    The 7th seal is the last one.
    So even though the 6th seal explains only the coming,
    but God did not include the details leading up to it.
    We have to use common sense that trumpet no. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6 have been blown already, to lead up to the coming, although they are not mentioned there.

    The details of the trumpets are mentioned in the 7th seal.
    And it is all finished by the 7th seal, so makes sense that the 7th trumpet is on the 7th seal, the last one.

    I know all the scriptures.  What I am explaining is not in the scriptures, but a 1 + 1 =2 thing.


    The order of events are as given in the feasts of the last feast month, and they can not be changed.

    The resurrection of ALL of the saints occurs at one time in the twinkling of an eye, and the gathering of certain mortal believers to Jerusalem begins during the first 5 vials of wrath upon the beasts kingdom.

    It is only after all of Gods Israel are gathered into the land to safety with sinners thrust out (Zech ch 12)

    that God will then allow the armies of the wicked to gather there in the 6th vial .

    Eze 20:33  As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
    Eze 20:34  And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
    Eze 20:35  And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
    Eze 20:36  Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.
    Eze 20:37  And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
    Eze 20:38  And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

    again–

    Rev 18:1  And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. (Same as Mat.24:30)

    The resurrection has occurred with the voice of the archangel,–

    1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    Rev 18:2  And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
    Rev 18:3  For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    Then another voice—

    Rev 18:4  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    That refers to the gathering to safety of the mortal children of Zion.

    (Yet there are others thoughout the earth (even Kings) who have obeyed the messages of the Bride of Rev.14.)  Psalm 72

    Res.

    #340625
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ April 03 2013,02:10)

    Quote (journey42 @ April 02 2013,23:51)

    Quote (Resting @ April 01 2013,18:12)


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    Christ returns in the 6th seal at the 7th trumpet–

    Resting,
    We both agree that Christ comes at the 7th trumpet.
    I say the 7th trumpet is on the 7th Seal,
    and you the 7th trumpet is on the 6th Seal.

    I see why you say this.
    The way it is written out in Rev,
    it appears this way.
    The 6th seal just talks about the coming.  Nothing else.
    That great and dreadful day to the world.

    The 7th seal explains all the trumpets.
    The key here is that all the trumpets lead up to the coming of the Lord on the 7th trump.

    The 7th seal is the last one.
    So even though the 6th seal explains only the coming,
    but God did not include the details leading up to it.
    We have to use common sense that trumpet no. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6 have been blown already, to lead up to the coming, although they are not mentioned there.

    The details of the trumpets are mentioned in the 7th seal.
    And it is all finished by the 7th seal, so makes sense that the 7th trumpet is on the 7th seal, the last one.

    I know all the scriptures.  What I am explaining is not in the scriptures, but a 1 + 1 =2 thing.


    The order of events are as given in the feasts of the last feast month, and they can not be changed.

    The resurrection of ALL of the saints occurs at one time in the twinkling of an eye, and the gathering of certain mortal believers to Jerusalem begins during the first 5 vials of wrath upon the beasts kingdom.

    It is only after all of Gods Israel are gathered into the land to safety with sinners thrust out (Zech ch 12)

    that God will then allow the armies of the wicked to gather there in the 6th vial .

    Eze 20:33  As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
    Eze 20:34  And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
    Eze 20:35  And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
    Eze 20:36  Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.
    Eze 20:37  And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
    Eze 20:38  And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

    again–

    Rev 18:1  And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. (Same as Mat.24:30)

    The resurrection has occurred with the voice of the archangel,–

    1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    Rev 18:2  And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
    Rev 18:3  For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    Then another voice—

    Rev 18:4  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    That refers to the gathering to safety of the mortal children of Zion.

    (Yet there are others thoughout the earth (even Kings) who have obeyed the messages of the Bride of Rev.14.)  Psalm 72

    Res.


    rest

    Eze 20:30 “Therefore say to the house of Israel: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Will you defile yourselves the way your fathers did and lust after their vile images?
    Eze 20:31 When you offer your gifts—the sacrifice of your sons in the fire—you continue to defile yourselves with all your idols to this day. Am I to let you inquire of me, O house of Israel? As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I will not let you inquire of me.
    Eze 20:32 “ ‘You say, “We want to be like the nations, like the peoples of the world, who serve wood and stone.” But what you have in mind will never happen.

    this was finally done in 70 AD

    Eze 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

    yes Paul wen to them pleading with his race every were he went ,in God's name to save them

    #340631
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2013,15:28)

    Quote (Resting @ April 03 2013,02:10)

    Quote (journey42 @ April 02 2013,23:51)

    Quote (Resting @ April 01 2013,18:12)


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    Christ returns in the 6th seal at the 7th trumpet–

    Resting,
    We both agree that Christ comes at the 7th trumpet.
    I say the 7th trumpet is on the 7th Seal,
    and you the 7th trumpet is on the 6th Seal.

    I see why you say this.
    The way it is written out in Rev,
    it appears this way.
    The 6th seal just talks about the coming.  Nothing else.
    That great and dreadful day to the world.

    The 7th seal explains all the trumpets.
    The key here is that all the trumpets lead up to the coming of the Lord on the 7th trump.

    The 7th seal is the last one.
    So even though the 6th seal explains only the coming,
    but God did not include the details leading up to it.
    We have to use common sense that trumpet no. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6 have been blown already, to lead up to the coming, although they are not mentioned there.

    The details of the trumpets are mentioned in the 7th seal.
    And it is all finished by the 7th seal, so makes sense that the 7th trumpet is on the 7th seal, the last one.

    I know all the scriptures.  What I am explaining is not in the scriptures, but a 1 + 1 =2 thing.


    The order of events are as given in the feasts of the last feast month, and they can not be changed.

    The resurrection of ALL of the saints occurs at one time in the twinkling of an eye, and the gathering of certain mortal believers to Jerusalem begins during the first 5 vials of wrath upon the beasts kingdom.

    It is only after all of Gods Israel are gathered into the land to safety with sinners thrust out (Zech ch 12)

    that God will then allow the armies of the wicked to gather there in the 6th vial .

    Eze 20:33  As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
    Eze 20:34  And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
    Eze 20:35  And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
    Eze 20:36  Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.
    Eze 20:37  And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
    Eze 20:38  And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

    again–

    Rev 18:1  And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. (Same as Mat.24:30)

    The resurrection has occurred with the voice of the archangel,–

    1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    Rev 18:2  And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
    Rev 18:3  For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    Then another voice—

    Rev 18:4  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    That refers to the gathering to safety of the mortal children of Zion.

    (Yet there are others thoughout the earth (even Kings) who have obeyed the messages of the Bride of Rev.14.)  Psalm 72

    Res.


    rest

    Eze 20:30 “Therefore say to the house of Israel: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Will you defile yourselves the way your fathers did and lust after their vile images?
    Eze 20:31 When you offer your gifts—the sacrifice of your sons in the fire—you continue to defile yourselves with all your idols to this day. Am I to let you inquire of me, O house of Israel? As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I will not let you inquire of me.
    Eze 20:32 “ ‘You say, “We want to be like the nations, like the peoples of the world, who serve wood and stone.” But what you have in mind will never happen.

    this was finally done in 70 AD

    Eze 20:35  And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

    yes Paul wen to them pleading with his race every were he went ,in God's name to save them


    Eze 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
    Eze 20:36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.
    Eze 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
    Eze 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

    Israel was scattered in the time of Paul, both believers and unbelievers.

    These verses above describe the believing descendants of Israel being re-gathered in the future with the rebels purged out.

    Gods word is specific in what it states.

    Generalizing will never do.

    Res.

    #340636
    terraricca
    Participant

    rst

    Quote
    These verses above describe the believing descendants of Israel being re-gathered in the future with the rebels purged out.

    LK 19:9 And Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because he, too, is a son of Abraham.
    LK 19:10 “For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.”

    LK 19:26 “ I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away.
    LK 19:27 “But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence.”

    Quote
    Gods word is specific in what it states.

    Generalizing will never do.

    may be. we see

    #346182
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Pre-Trib sermon.

    #346257
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ June 02 2013,23:22)
    Pre-Trib sermon.


    THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB WILL BE *AFTER* THE NEW HEAVEN AND THE NEW EARTH: WHEN CHRIST FINISHED ALL HIS WORK ON EARTH.

    Revelation 21:1 And I saw **a new heaven and a new earth**: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was *no more sea*. SPIRIT CREATURES DONT NEED WATER,OR AIR TO BREATH.

    Revelation 21:2 And I John saw **the holy city**, *new Jerusalem*, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared **as a bride** adorned for her husband.
    THE BRIDE IS THE HOLY CITY,NOT US; AS AN UNDIVIDUAL.
    WE ARE THE INVITED GUESTS. HIS BRIDE WILL ONLY COME DOWN WHEN CHRIST HAS FINISHED HIS WORK ON EARTH. AND HIS FINISH PRODUCT WILL BE A TRUE AND CLEAN WORSHIP.LIKE AN UNBLEMISHED VIRGIN.

    Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, **the tabernacle of God** is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
    THE HOLY CITY IS THE TABERNACLE OF GOD. THIS WILL BE AFTER THE NEW EARTH IS ESTABLISHED.
    WHY IS THE CITY IN HEAVEN? BECAUSE THE NEW EARTH IS BEING WORKED ON;ITS IN PROGRESS. AND THE TRUE WORSHIPPERS ARE IN HEAVEN.

    Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be **no more death*, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
    NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH;ALL THE FORMER ARE PASSED AWAY. DEATH HAS BEEN CONQUERED AFTER SATAN IS CAST IN THE FIRE. AFTER GOG AND MAGOG THE LAST WAR WITH SATAN, AND HIS FOLLOWERS.
    GOG AND MAGOG IS SATANS LAST ATTEMPT OF CONQUERRING JESUS TRUE FOLLOWERS IN THE KINGDOM.

    Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

    Revelation 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him **that is athirst** of the fountain of the water of life freely.

    Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

    Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the **second death**.
    THE SECOND DEATH IS AFTER THE SECOND JUDGEMENT.
    THE WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT.THIS IS ALSO WHEN SATAN WILL BE CAST IN THE FIRE.
    HE WAS SPARED AT THE SECOND COMING,BUT CAST IN PRISON. ONLY THE TERRIBLE BEAST, AND THE FALSE PROPHET WERE CAST IN THE FIRE.(REV.19:20).

    **DESCRIPTION OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST; BELOW**:
    Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee ***the bride, the Lamb's wife***.

    Revelation 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that **great city, the holy Jerusalem**, descending out of heaven from God,
    THE LAMBS WIFE IS *A GREAT CITY;HOLY JERUSALEM*.

    ***DESCRIPTION OF THE HOLY CITY ;BELOW***.
    Revelation 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;(CLEAN WORSHIP).

    Revelation 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had *twelve gates*, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
    THE GATES ARE WHERE WE ENTER; THROUGH THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL;FROM THIS STARTING PIONT WE ENTER INTO GODS DOMAIN.
    THIS IS OUR START IN KNOWING GOD,AND THEN NEXT IS THROUGH THE 12 APOSTLES.

    Revelation 21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

    Revelation 21:14 And the *wall of the city* had twelve *foundations*, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
    **THE FOUNDATIONS** OF *THE WALL* ARE THE 12 APOSTLES TEACHINGS; THE GOSPELS.

    Revelation 21:15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

    Revelation 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
    SINCE THIS CITY HAS A BOUNDARY; THIS CITY WOULD BE THE 1000YR KINGDOM ON EARTH,IN ISRAEL.NO OUTSIDERS CAN ENTER,UNLESS INVITED.

    Revelation 21:17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
    COULD BE THE 144000 ELECT.NOT SURE.

    Revelation 21:18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

    Revelation 21:19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

    Revelation 21:20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

    Revelation 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
    THE FOUNDATIONS OF *THE WALL* ARE THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL.

    Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

    Revelation 21:23 And the city had *no need* of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
    IT DOES NOT SAY THERE IS NO SUN OR MOON,BUT THAT THEY HAVE THE SPIRITUAL LIGHT OF GOD.

    Revelation 21:24 And **the nations** of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
    THE SAVED WILL WALK IN THE LIGHT OF THAT CITY.
    THE INVITED GUESTS. IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE NATIONS AND KINGS AROUND; THAT ARE SAVED WILL COME IN AND JOIN. SO THERE ARE *NATIONS AND KINGS*;THIS MUST BE THE 1000YR KINGDOM.

    Revelation 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
    THERE SHALL BE NO DARKNESS,FOR KNOWLEDGE SHALL COVER THE EARTH AS THE SEA COVER THE EARTH.

    Revelation 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
    FROM WHERE; INTO WHERE? FROM THE SAVED NATIONS OUT SIDE INTO THE KINGDOM.

    Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
    AS YOU CAN SEE; WE ARE NOT THE BRIDE,BUT THE INVITED GUESTS.WE ARE THE INHABITANCE OF THAT CITY.

    NOW WE KNOW THAT THE BRIDE IS **A HOLY CITY**.
    WHAT IS THIS HOLY CITY?
    THIS HOLY CITY IS ZION;ITS OUR *TRUE WORSHIP*;THE *TRUE SPIRIT OF OUR WORSHIP*.
    WORSHIPPING GOD AS A TRUE VIRGIN,WITH
    NO CONTAMINATIONS;WITHOUT BLEMISH.
    SHE WAS CREATD BY JESUS,AND NOW SHE IS FINISHED
    AND READY TO BE UNITED AS HIS BRIDE.

    WE WILL BE THE INVITED GUESTS OF THE WEDDING. OF THE UNITING.
    THIS WEDDING IS SYMBOLICAL.

    wakeup.

    #346265
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,14:56)
    THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB WILL BE *AFTER* THE NEW HEAVEN AND THE NEW EARTH: WHEN CHRIST FINISHED ALL HIS WORK ON EARTH.

    Revelation 21:1   And I saw **a new heaven and a new earth**: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was *no more sea*. SPIRIT CREATURES DONT NEED WATER,OR AIR TO BREATH.

     Revelation 21:2   And I John saw **the holy city**, *new Jerusalem*, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared **as a bride** adorned for her husband.
    THE BRIDE IS THE HOLY CITY,NOT US; AS AN UNDIVIDUAL.
    WE ARE THE INVITED GUESTS. HIS BRIDE WILL ONLY COME DOWN WHEN CHRIST HAS FINISHED HIS WORK ON EARTH. AND HIS FINISH PRODUCT WILL BE A TRUE AND CLEAN WORSHIP.LIKE AN UNBLEMISHED VIRGIN.

     Revelation 21:3   And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, **the tabernacle of God** is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
    THE HOLY CITY IS THE TABERNACLE OF GOD. THIS WILL BE AFTER THE NEW EARTH IS ESTABLISHED.
    WHY IS THE CITY IN HEAVEN? BECAUSE THE NEW EARTH IS BEING WORKED ON;ITS IN PROGRESS. AND THE TRUE WORSHIPPERS ARE IN HEAVEN.

     Revelation 21:4   And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be **no more death*, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
    NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH;ALL THE FORMER ARE PASSED AWAY. DEATH HAS BEEN CONQUERED AFTER SATAN IS CAST IN THE FIRE. AFTER GOG AND MAGOG THE LAST WAR WITH SATAN, AND HIS FOLLOWERS.
    GOG AND MAGOG IS SATANS LAST ATTEMPT OF CONQUERRING JESUS TRUE FOLLOWERS IN THE KINGDOM.

     Revelation 21:5   And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

     Revelation 21:6   And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him **that is athirst** of the fountain of the water of life freely.

     Revelation 21:7   He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

     Revelation 21:8   But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the **second death**.
    THE SECOND DEATH IS AFTER THE SECOND JUDGEMENT.
    THE WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT.THIS IS ALSO WHEN SATAN WILL BE CAST IN THE FIRE.
    HE WAS SPARED AT THE SECOND COMING,BUT CAST IN PRISON. ONLY THE TERRIBLE BEAST, AND THE FALSE PROPHET WERE CAST IN THE FIRE.(REV.19:20).

    **DESCRIPTION OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST; BELOW**:
     Revelation 21:9   And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee ***the bride, the Lamb's wife***.

     Revelation 21:10   And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that **great city, the holy Jerusalem**, descending out of heaven from God,
    THE LAMBS WIFE IS *A GREAT CITY;HOLY JERUSALEM*.

    ***DESCRIPTION OF THE HOLY CITY ;BELOW***.
     Revelation 21:11   Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;(CLEAN WORSHIP).

     Revelation 21:12   And had a wall great and high, and had *twelve gates*, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
    THE GATES ARE WHERE WE ENTER; THROUGH THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL;FROM THIS STARTING PIONT WE ENTER INTO GODS DOMAIN.
    THIS IS OUR START IN KNOWING GOD,AND THEN NEXT IS THROUGH THE 12 APOSTLES.

     Revelation 21:13   On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

     Revelation 21:14   And the *wall of the city* had twelve *foundations*, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
    **THE FOUNDATIONS** OF *THE WALL* ARE THE 12 APOSTLES TEACHINGS; THE GOSPELS.

     Revelation 21:15   And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

     Revelation 21:16   And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
    SINCE THIS CITY HAS A BOUNDARY; THIS CITY WOULD BE THE 1000YR KINGDOM ON EARTH,IN ISRAEL.NO OUTSIDERS CAN ENTER,UNLESS INVITED.

     Revelation 21:17   And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
    COULD BE THE 144000 ELECT.NOT SURE.

    Revelation 21:18   And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

     Revelation 21:19   And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

     Revelation 21:20   The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

     Revelation 21:21   And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
    THE FOUNDATIONS OF *THE WALL* ARE THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL.

     Revelation 21:22   And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

     Revelation 21:23   And the city had *no need* of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
    IT DOES NOT SAY THERE IS NO SUN OR MOON,BUT THAT THEY HAVE THE SPIRITUAL LIGHT OF GOD.

     Revelation 21:24   And **the nations** of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
    THE SAVED WILL WALK IN THE LIGHT OF THAT CITY.
    THE INVITED GUESTS. IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE NATIONS AND KINGS AROUND; THAT ARE SAVED WILL COME IN AND JOIN. SO THERE ARE *NATIONS AND KINGS*;THIS MUST BE THE 1000YR KINGDOM.

    Revelation 21:25   And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
    THERE SHALL BE NO DARKNESS,FOR KNOWLEDGE SHALL COVER THE EARTH AS THE SEA COVER THE EARTH.

     Revelation 21:26   And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
    FROM WHERE; INTO WHERE? FROM THE SAVED NATIONS OUT SIDE INTO THE KINGDOM.

     Revelation 21:27   And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
    AS YOU CAN SEE; WE ARE NOT THE BRIDE,BUT THE INVITED GUESTS.WE ARE THE INHABITANCE OF THAT CITY.

    NOW WE KNOW THAT THE BRIDE IS **A HOLY CITY**.
    WHAT IS THIS HOLY CITY?
    THIS HOLY CITY IS ZION;ITS OUR *TRUE WORSHIP*;THE *TRUE SPIRIT OF OUR WORSHIP*.
    WORSHIPPING GOD AS A TRUE VIRGIN,WITH NO CONTAMINATIONS;WITHOUT BLEMISH.
    SHE WAS CREATD BY JESUS,AND NOW SHE IS FINISHED
    AND READY TO BE UNITED AS HIS BRIDE.

    WE WILL BE THE INVITED GUESTS OF THE WEDDING. OF THE UNITING.
    THIS WEDDING IS SYMBOLICAL.

    wakeup.


    “no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” (2 Peter 1:20)

    #346266
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,14:56)
    THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB WILL BE *AFTER* THE NEW HEAVEN AND THE NEW EARTH: WHEN CHRIST FINISHED ALL HIS WORK ON EARTH.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.  (John 17:4)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #346267
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 03 2013,19:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,14:56)
    THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB WILL BE *AFTER* THE NEW HEAVEN AND THE NEW EARTH: WHEN CHRIST FINISHED ALL HIS WORK ON EARTH.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.  (John 17:4)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    Who is thou?
    Is it the Jesus of the bible or some other Jesus?

    wakeup.

    #346269
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    I(Jesus talking) have finished the work which
    thou(God the Father) gavest me(Jesus) to do.
     (John 17:4)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #346270
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,19:46)
    Edj.

    Who is thou?
    Is it the Jesus of the bible or some other Jesus?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    I cited John 17:4, don't you look up the verses?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org[/quote]

    #346271
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 03 2013,20:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 03 2013,19:46)
    Edj.

    Who is thou?
    Is it the Jesus of the bible or some other Jesus?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    I cited John 17:4, don't you look up the verses?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org[/quote]


    Edj.

    I thought you were talking about yourself.

    The answer is yes;his preaching work,and his sacrifice;
    the sowing of the seed.
    Now comes the harvesting very soon.
    The corn will be stored in the barn.
    The weed will be harvested also and burned.

    wakeup

    #346272
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    YOU say Jesus' work wasn't finished, even though Jesus said that it was?

    Should I believe you or Jesus   (<– please answer)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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