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Quote (abe @ Mar. 23 2013,02:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 21 2013,23:53) Quote (abe @ Mar. 22 2013,17:24) Hi all, Matt.24:31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32“From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. 34Truly, I say to you, this Generation will not pass away until all these things TAKE place. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.No One Knows That Day and Hour
36“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, NOR the Son, but the Father ONLY.
Peace brothers and sister.
Abe.THE DAY AND THE HOUR no one knows,I agree.
But the month or the week we can know, by studying rev.11.
closely.The earth will be melted only after:
The 1000yrs are expired,and after gog and magog,and after the second resurrection.After the earth has been renewed;God will himself come down,and dwell amongst us.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, will you at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said to them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father has put in his own power.
Peace brother.
Abe.We are living in the last days now,and therefore everything has been revealed through revelaton.
If you only will read rev.11,you also will know the week or the month of the coming.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 22 2013,14:23) Quote (abe @ Mar. 23 2013,02:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 21 2013,23:53) Quote (abe @ Mar. 22 2013,17:24) Hi all, Matt.24:31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32“From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. 34Truly, I say to you, this Generation will not pass away until all these things TAKE place. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.No One Knows That Day and Hour
36“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, NOR the Son, but the Father ONLY.
Peace brothers and sister.
Abe.THE DAY AND THE HOUR no one knows,I agree.
But the month or the week we can know, by studying rev.11.
closely.The earth will be melted only after:
The 1000yrs are expired,and after gog and magog,and after the second resurrection.After the earth has been renewed;God will himself come down,and dwell amongst us.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, will you at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said to them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father has put in his own power.
Peace brother.
Abe.We are living in the last days now,and therefore everything has been revealed through revelaton.
If you only will read rev.11,you also will know the week or the month of the coming.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I believe the Word of God. Apparently you have read and understand Rev.11, could you explain this for me?
Peace brother…….
Abe.
Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
ONLY THE TEMPLE OF GOD AND THE ALTAR TO BE MEASURED.THESE ARE ONLY THE TRUE WORSHIPPERS,TO BE MEASURED.Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
THE COURT OUTSIDE IS GIVEN TO THE GENTILES.
THEY WILL TREAD IT UNDERFOOT FOR 3/HALF YRS.
ALSO MEANING THAT ISRAEL WILL BE TRODDEN BY THE GENTILES FOR 3/HALF YRS.(the beast and the false prophet).Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
WHEN THIS HAPPENS,THE TWO WITNESSES WILL ALSO PREACH TO ISRAEL FOR 3/HALF YRS.Revelation 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
MOSES AND ELIJAH WILL BE THE TWO WITNESSES.Revelation 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
THEY WILL BE GIVEN POWER TO DESTROY THE ENEMIES.Revelation 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
THE TWO WITNESSES CAN STOP THE RAIN AND TURN WATER INTO BLOOD.JUST AS ELIJAH AND MOSES DID.JEUS WAS ALSO HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH ELIJAH AND MOSES AT THE TRANFIGURATION.MAT.17:3.
Revelation 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
WHEN THEIR TIME IS FINISHED,AFTER THE 3/HALF YRS.
THEY WILL BE KILLED BY THE FALSE PROPHETS MEN.(soldiers).Revelation 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
THIS GREAT CITY IS JERUSALEM,WHICH IS NOW AS SODOM AND EGYPT SPIRITUALLY. THEY ARE NOT WORSHIPPING GOD,IN TRUTH.Revelation 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
THEY WILL LEAVE THEIR BODIES IN THE STREET,FOR ALL TO SEE. (3/HALF DAYS).Revelation 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
THE EARTH WILL REJOICE AND GIVE GIFTS TO ONE ANOTHER.(CHRISTMAS,AND NEW YEAR) FOR THIS IS THE ONLY TIME WHEN ALL GIVE GIFTS TO ONE ANOTHER.THIS IS THE TRADITION.Revelation 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
AFTER 3/HALF DAYS,THEY WILL BE REVIVED.Revelation 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
THEY ARE TAKEN UP,AND ALL SAW THEM.(AFTER 3/HALF DAYS).Revelation 11:13 And the *SAME HOUR* was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
THE SAME HOUR *(SAME DAY)* A GREAT EARTH QUAKE IN JERUSALEM,7000 DIED.Revelation 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh *QUICKLY*.
*SOON AFTER*Revelation 11:15 And the *SEVENTH ANGEL* sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
*THIS IS THE COMING*.(THE 3RD WOE).1.2 WITNESSES PREACHING FOR 3/HALF YRS.
2.AFTER 3/HALF YRS; KILLED.
3.THEIR BODIES LEFT OUT FOR *3/HALF DAYS*THEN REVIVED,AND IN THAT SAME HOUR (SAME DAY).THE EARTH QUAKE.
4.THEN *QUICKLY* THE COMING.FROM THE DAY THAT THE TWO WITNESSES START PREACHING,TO THE COMING WULL BE:
3/HALF YEARS +3/HALF DAYS+ QUICKLY.
QUICKLY DOES NOT MEAN MONTHS,BUT DAYS.
JESUS WILL COME AS A THIEF ONLY TO THEM THAT ARE ASLEEP.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
Revelation 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
MOSES AND ELIJAH WILL BE THE TWO WITNESSES.Standing before the God of the earth.
Can you explain this?
Peace brother..
Quote (abe @ Mar. 23 2013,14:48) Hi Wakeup, Revelation 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
MOSES AND ELIJAH WILL BE THE TWO WITNESSES.Standing before the God of the earth.
Can you explain this?
Peace brother..
Abe.Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you ELIJAH THE PROPHET before the coming of *THE GRAEAT AND DREADFUL DAY* of the LORD:
Malachi 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
HE IS ONE OF THEM THAT CAN STOP THE RAIN.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS MOSES THAT CAN TURN WATER INTO BLOOD.JESUS ALSO SPOKE TO THESE TWO,IN THE TRANSFIGURATION.
wakeup.
Quote (abe @ Mar. 22 2013,19:48) Hi Wakeup, Revelation 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
MOSES AND ELIJAH WILL BE THE TWO WITNESSES.Standing before the God of the earth.
Can you explain this?
Peace brother..
Hi Wakeup,Matt.17:1 And after six days Jesus took with him Peter and James, and John his brother, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2And he was transfigured before them, and his face shone like the sun, and his clothes became white as light. 3And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with him. 4And Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good that we are here. If you wish, I will make three tents here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah.” 5He was still speaking when, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my beloved Son,a with whom I am well pleased; listen to him.” 6When the disciples heard this, they fell on their faces and were terrified. 7But Jesus came and touched them, saying, “Rise, and have no fear.” 8And when they lifted up their eyes, they saw no one but Jesus only.
9And as they were coming down the mountain, Jesus commanded them, “Tell no one the vision, until the Son of Man is raised from the dead.”10And the disciples asked him, “Then why do the scribes say that first Elijah must come?” 11He answered, “Elijah does come, and he will restore all things. 12But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the Son of Man will certainly suffer at their hands.” 13Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of John the Baptist.
Peace brother…..
Quote (abe @ Mar. 23 2013,18:06) Quote (abe @ Mar. 22 2013,19:48) Hi Wakeup, Revelation 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
MOSES AND ELIJAH WILL BE THE TWO WITNESSES.Standing before the God of the earth.
Can you explain this?
Peace brother..
Hi Wakeup,Matt.17:1 And after six days Jesus took with him Peter and James, and John his brother, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2And he was transfigured before them, and his face shone like the sun, and his clothes became white as light. 3And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with him. 4And Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good that we are here. If you wish, I will make three tents here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah.” 5He was still speaking when, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my beloved Son,a with whom I am well pleased; listen to him.” 6When the disciples heard this, they fell on their faces and were terrified. 7But Jesus came and touched them, saying, “Rise, and have no fear.” 8And when they lifted up their eyes, they saw no one but Jesus only.
9And as they were coming down the mountain, Jesus commanded them, “Tell no one the vision, until the Son of Man is raised from the dead.”10And the disciples asked him, “Then why do the scribes say that first Elijah must come?” 11He answered, “Elijah does come, and he will restore all things. 12But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the Son of Man will certainly suffer at their hands.” 13Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of John the Baptist.
Peace brother…..
Abe.John 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, *I AM NOT*. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, *NO*.
John came in the *spirit* of Elijah.(luke 1:17).
Elijah(my God is jehovah).Malachi is speaking about *THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY*.(mal.4:5). The coming.
wakeup.
You guy s do not understand the difference between being judged and being punished
The dreadful day ::his the day of Christ (this is judgment day for Israel )
The year 70 AD his the punishment for having be judged unfit for the kingdom
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 25 2013,18:36) You guy s do not understand the difference between being judged and being punished The dreadful day ::his the day of Christ (this is judgment day for Israel )
The year 70 AD his the punishment for having be judged unfit for the kingdom
Terra.You are showing your lack of knowledge again.
1.Did elijah come in 70 ad? yes/no?
This is the dreadful day.
Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be **a time of trouble**, *such as never* was *since there was a nation* even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.wakeup.
Quote 1.Did elijah come in 70 ad? yes/no? yes;MT 17:10 And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”
MT 17:11 And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things;
MT 17:12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.”Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2013,00:01) Quote 1.Did elijah come in 70 ad? yes/no? yes;MT 17:10 And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”
MT 17:11 And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things;
MT 17:12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.”
Terra.AS I have said before,John came in the *spirit* of Elijah.
And they chopped his head off,soon after.
Jesus came and they hanged him.
It was Jesus that did the work.
John only prepared the way for a very short time.Elijah will come again to preach to his people israel,before the 3rd woe comes;the coming of the Lord.
The great and dreadful day of the Lord is not 70 ad.
But it is coming,the one and only great and dreadful day.
And that is when babylon the great will be destroyed.
The 3rd woe.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 15 2013,16:50) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2013,10:33) Destroy the ground, because it is cursed, you say?
EDJ.The earth itself is cursed,because of mans work on it.
the sun ,the moon,and planets, all that have been worshipped by man.wakeup.
“And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and
of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:” (Rev 22:3)Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 25 2013,23:43) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2013,00:01) Quote 1.Did elijah come in 70 ad? yes/no? yes;MT 17:10 And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”
MT 17:11 And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things;
MT 17:12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.”
Terra.AS I have said before,John came in the *spirit* of Elijah.
And they chopped his head off,soon after.
Jesus came and they hanged him.
It was Jesus that did the work.
John only prepared the way for a very short time.Elijah will come again to preach to his people israel,before the 3rd woe comes;the coming of the Lord.
The great and dreadful day of the Lord is not 70 ad.
But it is coming,the one and only great and dreadful day.
And that is when babylon the great will be destroyed.
The 3rd woe.wakeup.
You have no scriptures to say that what you say is true ,Just because you brush away the scriptures that stand against you that does not make you a true prophet ,or a true believer
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2013,10:17) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 25 2013,23:43) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2013,00:01) Quote 1.Did elijah come in 70 ad? yes/no? yes;MT 17:10 And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”
MT 17:11 And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things;
MT 17:12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.”
Terra.AS I have said before,John came in the *spirit* of Elijah.
And they chopped his head off,soon after.
Jesus came and they hanged him.
It was Jesus that did the work.
John only prepared the way for a very short time.Elijah will come again to preach to his people israel,before the 3rd woe comes;the coming of the Lord.
The great and dreadful day of the Lord is not 70 ad.
But it is coming,the one and only great and dreadful day.
And that is when babylon the great will be destroyed.
The 3rd woe.wakeup.
You have no scriptures to say that what you say is true ,Just because you brush away the scriptures that stand against you that does not make you a true prophet ,or a true believer
Terra.The reason that it is so hard for you to understand is because of your foundation.
For some; that would be so easy to understand.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 26 2013,17:48) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2013,10:17) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 25 2013,23:43) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2013,00:01) Quote 1.Did elijah come in 70 ad? yes/no? yes;MT 17:10 And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”
MT 17:11 And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things;
MT 17:12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.”
Terra.AS I have said before,John came in the *spirit* of Elijah.
And they chopped his head off,soon after.
Jesus came and they hanged him.
It was Jesus that did the work.
John only prepared the way for a very short time.Elijah will come again to preach to his people israel,before the 3rd woe comes;the coming of the Lord.
The great and dreadful day of the Lord is not 70 ad.
But it is coming,the one and only great and dreadful day.
And that is when babylon the great will be destroyed.
The 3rd woe.wakeup.
You have no scriptures to say that what you say is true ,Just because you brush away the scriptures that stand against you that does not make you a true prophet ,or a true believer
Terra.The reason that it is so hard for you to understand is because of your foundation.
For some; that would be so easy to understand.wakeup.
waupfirst you say that Elijah as to come and he did not come yet ;I SHOWED YOU JESUS WORDS ,BUT YOU BRUSH THEM AWAY,
BY SAYING THAT HE CAME IN THE SPIRIT OF ELIJAH,THIS OF CAUSE IS MORE THAN ALLEGORICALLY HE CAME BACK ,BECAUSE HE DIED MANY CENTURIES BEFORE JOHN THE BAPTIST ,AND JOHN THE BAPTIST DENY TO BE ELIJAH,BUT QUOTED Isa 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
AND SO YOU TOOK THE EASY WAY TO INSULTING MY UNDERSTANDING AND MY FOUNDATION IN SCRIPTURES RATHER THAN SHOWING SCRIPTURES ,
THIS IS THE WAY OF IGNORANTS
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2013,01:40) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 26 2013,17:48) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2013,10:17) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 25 2013,23:43) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2013,00:01) Quote 1.Did elijah come in 70 ad? yes/no? yes;MT 17:10 And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”
MT 17:11 And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things;
MT 17:12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.”
Terra.AS I have said before,John came in the *spirit* of Elijah.
And they chopped his head off,soon after.
Jesus came and they hanged him.
It was Jesus that did the work.
John only prepared the way for a very short time.Elijah will come again to preach to his people israel,before the 3rd woe comes;the coming of the Lord.
The great and dreadful day of the Lord is not 70 ad.
But it is coming,the one and only great and dreadful day.
And that is when babylon the great will be destroyed.
The 3rd woe.wakeup.
You have no scriptures to say that what you say is true ,Just because you brush away the scriptures that stand against you that does not make you a true prophet ,or a true believer
Terra.The reason that it is so hard for you to understand is because of your foundation.
For some; that would be so easy to understand.wakeup.
waupfirst you say that Elijah as to come and he did not come yet ;I SHOWED YOU JESUS WORDS ,BUT YOU BRUSH THEM AWAY,
BY SAYING THAT HE CAME IN THE SPIRIT OF ELIJAH,THIS OF CAUSE IS MORE THAN ALLEGORICALLY HE CAME BACK ,BECAUSE HE DIED MANY CENTURIES BEFORE JOHN THE BAPTIST ,AND JOHN THE BAPTIST DENY TO BE ELIJAH,BUT QUOTED Isa 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
AND SO YOU TOOK THE EASY WAY TO INSULTING MY UNDERSTANDING AND MY FOUNDATION IN SCRIPTURES RATHER THAN SHOWING SCRIPTURES ,
THIS IS THE WAY OF IGNORANTS
Terra.John himself said that he is *NOT* Elijah.He was not lying.
I didnot say,but Luke said that John came in the spirit of
Elijah.Jesus said; Elijah has already come,but Luke made it clear
that John came in the spirit of Elijah.Now we have to know what Elijah means.
It means;My God is jehovah.God said in malachi; I will send you Elijah *the prophet*
**before the coming**of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.(note before the coming).There is only *ONE* great and dreadful day of the Lord,NOT MANY.
One of the two witnesses can stop the rain,just as Elijah did.
And the other witness can change water into blood,just as Moses did.And Jesus spoke to Moses and Elijah.
This is how you find the answers.
Before the coming;the two will preach to israel,to give them a last chance,but they will be killed.
wakeup.
waup
Quote Terra. John himself said that he is *NOT* Elijah.He was not lying.
I didnot say,but Luke said that John came in the spirit of
Elijah.Jesus said; Elijah has already come,but Luke made it clear
that John came in the spirit of Elijah.Now we have to know what Elijah means.
It means;My God is jehovah.God said in malachi; I will send you Elijah *the prophet*
**before the coming**of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.(note before the coming).There is only *ONE* great and dreadful day of the Lord,NOT MANY.
One of the two witnesses can stop the rain,just as Elijah did.
And the other witness can change water into blood,just as Moses did.And Jesus spoke to Moses and Elijah.
This is how you find the answers.
Before the coming;the two will preach to israel,to give them a last chance,but they will be killed.
wakeup.
I disagree with your view on Israel of today ,you have it wrong AS BEEN DEALT WITH BETWEEN GOD AND ISRAEL IN THE YEAR 70 AD, THEY ARE NO LONGER REPRESENTING GOD ALMIGHTY ON EARTH BUT THOSE WHO ARE, ARE BELIEVERS IN CHRIST AND THE FATHER ,
and you are mixing up Malachi “the great and dreadful day ” his the day wen Christ came , and so John the Baptist was allegorically Elijah but not really Elijah,
and so you are making up opinions that do not match scriptures as an whole ,
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2013,05:25) waup Quote Terra. John himself said that he is *NOT* Elijah.He was not lying.
I didnot say,but Luke said that John came in the spirit of
Elijah.Jesus said; Elijah has already come,but Luke made it clear
that John came in the spirit of Elijah.Now we have to know what Elijah means.
It means;My God is jehovah.God said in malachi; I will send you Elijah *the prophet*
**before the coming**of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.(note before the coming).There is only *ONE* great and dreadful day of the Lord,NOT MANY.
One of the two witnesses can stop the rain,just as Elijah did.
And the other witness can change water into blood,just as Moses did.And Jesus spoke to Moses and Elijah.
This is how you find the answers.
Before the coming;the two will preach to israel,to give them a last chance,but they will be killed.
wakeup.
I disagree with your view on Israel of today ,you have it wrong AS BEEN DEALT WITH BETWEEN GOD AND ISRAEL IN THE YEAR 70 AD, THEY ARE NO LONGER REPRESENTING GOD ALMIGHTY ON EARTH BUT THOSE WHO ARE, ARE BELIEVERS IN CHRIST AND THE FATHER ,
and you are mixing up Malachi “the great and dreadful day ” his the day wen Christ came , and so John the Baptist was allegorically Elijah but not really Elijah,
and so you are making up opinions that do not match scriptures as an whole ,
Terra.This is only your opinion.
You also dont have any scripture regarding 70 ad.
You are just making up opinions that does not
match with the scriptures as a whole.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 27 2013,04:17) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2013,05:25) waup Quote Terra. John himself said that he is *NOT* Elijah.He was not lying.
I didnot say,but Luke said that John came in the spirit of
Elijah.Jesus said; Elijah has already come,but Luke made it clear
that John came in the spirit of Elijah.Now we have to know what Elijah means.
It means;My God is jehovah.God said in malachi; I will send you Elijah *the prophet*
**before the coming**of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.(note before the coming).There is only *ONE* great and dreadful day of the Lord,NOT MANY.
One of the two witnesses can stop the rain,just as Elijah did.
And the other witness can change water into blood,just as Moses did.And Jesus spoke to Moses and Elijah.
This is how you find the answers.
Before the coming;the two will preach to israel,to give them a last chance,but they will be killed.
wakeup.
I disagree with your view on Israel of today ,you have it wrong AS BEEN DEALT WITH BETWEEN GOD AND ISRAEL IN THE YEAR 70 AD, THEY ARE NO LONGER REPRESENTING GOD ALMIGHTY ON EARTH BUT THOSE WHO ARE, ARE BELIEVERS IN CHRIST AND THE FATHER ,
and you are mixing up Malachi “the great and dreadful day ” his the day wen Christ came , and so John the Baptist was allegorically Elijah but not really Elijah,
and so you are making up opinions that do not match scriptures as an whole ,
Terra.This is only your opinion.
You also dont have any scripture regarding 70 ad.
You are just making up opinions that does not
match with the scriptures as a whole.wakeup.
waupRo 11:1 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin.
Ro 11:2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel:
Ro 11:3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me” ?
Ro 11:4 And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”
Ro 11:5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace.understand what it says
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,14:59) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 27 2013,04:17) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2013,05:25) waup Quote Terra. John himself said that he is *NOT* Elijah.He was not lying.
I didnot say,but Luke said that John came in the spirit of
Elijah.Jesus said; Elijah has already come,but Luke made it clear
that John came in the spirit of Elijah.Now we have to know what Elijah means.
It means;My God is jehovah.God said in malachi; I will send you Elijah *the prophet*
**before the coming**of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.(note before the coming).There is only *ONE* great and dreadful day of the Lord,NOT MANY.
One of the two witnesses can stop the rain,just as Elijah did.
And the other witness can change water into blood,just as Moses did.And Jesus spoke to Moses and Elijah.
This is how you find the answers.
Before the coming;the two will preach to israel,to give them a last chance,but they will be killed.
wakeup.
I disagree with your view on Israel of today ,you have it wrong AS BEEN DEALT WITH BETWEEN GOD AND ISRAEL IN THE YEAR 70 AD, THEY ARE NO LONGER REPRESENTING GOD ALMIGHTY ON EARTH BUT THOSE WHO ARE, ARE BELIEVERS IN CHRIST AND THE FATHER ,
and you are mixing up Malachi “the great and dreadful day ” his the day wen Christ came , and so John the Baptist was allegorically Elijah but not really Elijah,
and so you are making up opinions that do not match scriptures as an whole ,
Terra.This is only your opinion.
You also dont have any scripture regarding 70 ad.
You are just making up opinions that does not
match with the scriptures as a whole.wakeup.
waupRo 11:1 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin.
Ro 11:2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel:
Ro 11:3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me” ?
Ro 11:4 And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”
Ro 11:5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace.understand what it says
Terra.Exactly; God has reserved jews as a remnant that will be brought back at the coming, And they will be the population in the kingdom,that the saints will rule over,and teach them.
They(jews) are the true olive branches,that will be grafted back on the tree(Jesus).They also have to go through Jesus.
The saints are the wild olive braches,that have been grafted on, to the tree(Jesus).Resurrected *FIRST*.
They are first,and the jews later.
The first will be last, and the last will be first.wakeup.
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