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Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 25 2013,00:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,10:57) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,15:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,10:14) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,09:40) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:19) let see what scriptures realy says; MT 24:9 “ Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.
MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
MT 24:29 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
MK 13:19 “For those days will be a time of tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will.
MK 13:24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT,
JN 16:33 “These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.”those words of Christ are they addressed to the apostles or to Israel ,or to all believers THAT WOULD BE LIVING AT THE TIME OF THE END OF JERUSALEM TEMPLE
it is for the believers of that time of the end of Israel and Judah being rejected by God ,within that generation just as Jesus told them ,for the have rejected life it self ,if anyone take the time to read the book of FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS ,THE HISTORIAN THAT LIVED THROUGH IT ALL ,AND OTHERS ;YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT CHRIST AS SAID CAME TO PASS WITHIN THAT GENERATION ;(I DID READ AND MORE PLEASE READ IT )
NOW THEIR ARE TRIBULATION OR HARD TIMES FOR ALL WHO BELIEVE IN MANY FORMS DURING OUR LIVES ON EARTH THE NEXT SCRIPTURES WILL DEAL WITH THAT ;
RO 2:9 There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek,
RO 5:3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance;
RO 8:35 Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
RO 12:12 rejoicing in hope, persevering in tribulation, devoted to prayer,
1TH 1:6 You also became imitators of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much tribulation with the joy of the Holy Spirit,
REV 1:9 I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.
REV 2:9 ‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
REV 2:10 ‘Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.EVEN TODAY ALL OVER THE WORLD THERE ARE SOME TRUE BELIEVERS THAT COME TO CHRIST IN TRIBULATION BECAUSE OF THE WORLD AROUND THEM BUT NOT ALL SUFFER THE SAME THINGS BUT GOD LOOKS OUT FOR THOSE RIGHTEOUS ,I DO PRAY FOR THEM ,I MAY NOT KNOW THEM BUT WE HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT ,
The brothers of the past that have gone through their tribulation are now under the altar of God.
They are told to wait untill their fellow brothers also will be killed. This is coming.
We are their fellow brothers that will also be killed like they were.
This will happen in the coming great tribulation.
As never ever was and never will be again.wakeup.
SORRY BUT I DISAGREE WITH YOU ,THIS IS AN ON GOING PROCESS ,UNTIL THE TIME THAT GOD AS SET ,COMES TO ITS END ,AND THAT THE NUMBER OF THE 144 K HIS COMPLETYOU SEE IT IS ALL ABOUT GOD NOT MEN ,IT IS ALL ABOUT GOD;S NAME NOT MEN'S GLORY
You are just denying what the scripture says.
Not denying me.
The scriptures says the geat tribulation will be
as never before and never will be again.Daniel 12:1 And **at that time shall Michael stand up**, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and **there shall be a time of trouble**
, **such as never was since there was a nation** even to that same time: and **at that time thy people shall be delivered**, **every one** that shall be found written in the book.Daniel 12:2 And many of them **that sleep in the dust** of the earth **shall awake**, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
THIS IS NOT A PROCESS OF TIME.
BUT WILL HAPPEN IN THE DAY OF THE HARVEST.
THE GREAT TRIBULATION WILL LAST FOR 3/HALF YEARS.wakeup.
WELL WE WILL SEE IF YOU WERE RIGHT DON'T WE ,remember it is not your words that counts but God's word ,and plan ,
and so far i can not see that in your configuration of bits and pieces of scriptures ;
it is at best shaky
You dont need to wait and see;
the scriptures are very clear.
The great tribulation will last for 3/half years,Some will be killed,for refusing the mark of the beast,some for preaching the Word.Multitudes of men in white robes coming out of great tribulation will be judged and given each their reward.
(rev2o:4–6).These consist off all that have been killed during the centuries,and the last days.wakeup.
no,this is your clarification of what you like those scriptures to mean ,don't get to far ,in your dreams ,Daniel
Da 12:10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
Da 12:11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Da 12:12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.
Da 12:13 “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted in
heritance.you think that because you give any interpretation to that scripture YOU WOULD BE CALLED WISE
YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE ,
Terra.Many will be purified yes: **and those are the multitudes coming out of great tribulations rev7:9–17**. They have been given white robes/purified.
Not just any interpretation.
From the time the daily sacrifice taken away to the abomination of desolation *SETUP* will be 1290days.3/half yrs.
The coming;will be at the 1335 day. 3/half yrs plus 45 days.
(after the setting up of the abomination,wait another 1/half month; then the coming).
This is how you interpret prophesies.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,05:15) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 25 2013,00:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,10:57) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,15:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,10:14) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,09:40) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:19) let see what scriptures realy says; MT 24:9 “ Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.
MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
MT 24:29 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
MK 13:19 “For those days will be a time of tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will.
MK 13:24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT,
JN 16:33 “These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.”those words of Christ are they addressed to the apostles or to Israel ,or to all believers THAT WOULD BE LIVING AT THE TIME OF THE END OF JERUSALEM TEMPLE
it is for the believers of that time of the end of Israel and Judah being rejected by God ,within that generation just as Jesus told them ,for the have rejected life it self ,if anyone take the time to read the book of FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS ,THE HISTORIAN THAT LIVED THROUGH IT ALL ,AND OTHERS ;YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT CHRIST AS SAID CAME TO PASS WITHIN THAT GENERATION ;(I DID READ AND MORE PLEASE READ IT )
NOW THEIR ARE TRIBULATION OR HARD TIMES FOR ALL WHO BELIEVE IN MANY FORMS DURING OUR LIVES ON EARTH THE NEXT SCRIPTURES WILL DEAL WITH THAT ;
RO 2:9 There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek,
RO 5:3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance;
RO 8:35 Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
RO 12:12 rejoicing in hope, persevering in tribulation, devoted to prayer,
1TH 1:6 You also became imitators of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much tribulation with the joy of the Holy Spirit,
REV 1:9 I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.
REV 2:9 ‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
REV 2:10 ‘Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.EVEN TODAY ALL OVER THE WORLD THERE ARE SOME TRUE BELIEVERS THAT COME TO CHRIST IN TRIBULATION BECAUSE OF THE WORLD AROUND THEM BUT NOT ALL SUFFER THE SAME THINGS BUT GOD LOOKS OUT FOR THOSE RIGHTEOUS ,I DO PRAY FOR THEM ,I MAY NOT KNOW THEM BUT WE HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT ,
The brothers of the past that have gone through their tribulation are now under the altar of God.
They are told to wait untill their fellow brothers also will be killed. This is coming.
We are their fellow brothers that will also be killed like they were.
This will happen in the coming great tribulation.
As never ever was and never will be again.wakeup.
SORRY BUT I DISAGREE WITH YOU ,THIS IS AN ON GOING PROCESS ,UNTIL THE TIME THAT GOD AS SET ,COMES TO ITS END ,AND THAT THE NUMBER OF THE 144 K HIS COMPLETYOU SEE IT IS ALL ABOUT GOD NOT MEN ,IT IS ALL ABOUT GOD;S NAME NOT MEN'S GLORY
You are just denying what the scripture says.
Not denying me.
The scriptures says the geat tribulation will be
as never before and never will be again.Daniel 12:1 And **at that time shall Michael stand up**, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and **there shall be a time of trouble**
, **such as never was since there was a nation** even to that same time: and **at that time thy people shall be delivered**, **every one** that shall be found written in the book.Daniel 12:2 And many of them **that sleep in the dust** of the earth **shall awake**, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
THIS IS NOT A PROCESS OF TIME.
BUT WILL HAPPEN IN THE DAY OF THE HARVEST.
THE GREAT TRIBULATION WILL LAST FOR 3/HALF YEARS.wakeup.
WELL WE WILL SEE IF YOU WERE RIGHT DON'T WE ,remember it is not your words that counts but God's word ,and plan ,
and so far i can not see that in your configuration of bits and pieces of scriptures ;
it is at best shaky
You dont need to wait and see;
the scriptures are very clear.
The great tribulation will last for 3/half years,Some will be killed,for refusing the mark of the beast,some for preaching the Word.Multitudes of men in white robes coming out of great tribulation will be judged and given each their reward.
(rev2o:4–6).These consist off all that have been killed during the centuries,and the last days.wakeup.
no,this is your clarification of what you like those scriptures to mean ,don't get to far ,in your dreams ,Daniel
Da 12:10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
Da 12:11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Da 12
:12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.
Da 12:13 “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.you think that because you give any interpretation to that scripture YOU WOULD BE CALLED WISE
YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE ,
Terra.Many will be purified yes: **and those are the multitudes coming out of great tribulations rev7:9–17**. They have been given white robes/purified.
Not just any interpretation.
From the time the daily sacrifice taken away to the abomination of desolation *SETUP* will be 1290days.3/half yrs.
The coming;will be at the 1335 day. 3/half yrs plus 45 days.
(after the setting up of the abomination,wait another 1/half month; then the coming).
This is how you interpret prophesies.wakeup.
NO ,ONE AS TO LIE TO MAKE A POINT ;I HAVE SHOWN YOU WHAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION IS ,IT SEEMS YOUR LIES ARE STRONGER THAN THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD ;I START TO WONDER WHO IS YOUR FATHERQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 25 2013,10:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,05:15) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 25 2013,00:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,10:57) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,15:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,10:14) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,09:40) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:19) let see what scriptures realy says; MT 24:9 “ Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.
MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
MT 24:29 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
MK 13:19 “For those days will be a time of tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will.
MK 13:24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT,
JN 16:33 “These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.”those words of Christ are they addressed to the apostles or to Israel ,or to all believers THAT WOULD BE LIVING AT THE TIME OF THE END OF JERUSALEM TEMPLE
it is for the believers of that time of the end of Israel and Judah being rejected by God ,within that generation just as Jesus told them ,for the have rejected life it self ,if anyone take the time to read the book of FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS ,THE HISTORIAN THAT LIVED THROUGH IT ALL ,AND OTHERS ;YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT CHRIST AS SAID CAME TO PASS WITHIN THAT GENERATION ;(I DID READ AND MORE PLEASE READ IT )
NOW THEIR ARE TRIBULATION OR HARD TIMES FOR ALL WHO BELIEVE IN MANY FORMS DURING OUR LIVES ON EARTH THE NEXT SCRIPTURES WILL DEAL WITH THAT ;
RO 2:9 There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek,
RO 5:3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance;
RO 8:35 Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
RO 12:12 rejoicing in hope, persevering in tribulation, devoted to prayer,
1TH 1:6 You also became imitators of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much tribulation with the joy of the Holy Spirit,
REV 1:9 I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.
REV 2:9 ‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
REV 2:10 ‘Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.EVEN TODAY ALL OVER THE WORLD THERE ARE SOME TRUE BELIEVERS THAT COME TO CHRIST IN TRIBULATION BECAUSE OF THE WORLD AROUND THEM BUT NOT ALL SUFFER THE SAME THINGS BUT GOD LOOKS OUT FOR THOSE RIGHTEOUS ,I DO PRAY FOR THEM ,I MAY NOT KNOW THEM BUT WE HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT ,
The brothers of the past that have gone through their tribulation are now under the altar of God.
They are told to wait untill their fellow brothers also will be killed. This is coming.
We are their fellow brothers that will also be killed like they were.
This will happen in the coming great tribulation.
As never ever was and never will be again.wakeup.
SORRY BUT I DISAGREE WITH YOU ,THIS IS AN ON GOING PROCESS ,UNTIL THE TIME THAT GOD AS SET ,COMES TO ITS END ,AND THAT THE NUMBER OF THE 144 K HIS COMPLETYOU SEE IT IS ALL ABOUT GOD NOT MEN ,IT IS ALL ABOUT GOD;S NAME NOT MEN'S GLORY
You are just denying what the scripture says.
Not denying me.
The scriptures says the geat tribulation will be
as never before and never will be again.Daniel 12:1 And **at that time shall Michael stand up**, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and **there shall be a time of trouble**
, **such as never was since there was a nation** even to that same time: and **at that time thy people shall be delivered**, **every one** that shall be found written in the book.Daniel 12:2 And many of them **that sleep in the dust** of the earth **shall awake**, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
THIS IS NOT A PROCESS OF TIME.
BUT WILL HAPPEN IN THE DAY OF THE HARVEST.
THE GREAT TRIBULATION WILL LAST FOR 3/HALF YEARS.wakeup.
WELL WE WILL SEE IF YOU WERE RIGHT DON'T WE ,remember it is not your words that counts but God's word ,and plan ,
and so far i can not see that in your configuration of bits and pieces of scriptures ;
it is at best shaky
You dont need to wait and see;
the scriptures are very clear.
The great tribulation will last for 3/half years,Some will be killed,for refusing the mark of the beast,some for preaching the Word.Multitudes of men in white robes coming out of great tribulation will be judged and given each their reward.
(rev2o:4–6).These consist off all that have been killed during the centuries,and the last days.wakeup.
no,this is your clarification of what you like those scriptures to mean ,don't get to far ,in your dreams ,Daniel
Da 12:10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of
the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
Da 12:11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Da 12:12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.
Da 12:13 “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.you think that because you give any interpretation to that scripture YOU WOULD BE CALLED WISE
YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE ,
Terra.Many will be purified yes: **and those are the multitudes coming out of great tribulations rev7:9–17**. They have been given white robes/purified.
Not just any interpretation.
From the time the daily sacrifice taken away to the abomination of desolation *SETUP* will be 1290days.3/half yrs.
The coming;will be at the 1335 day. 3/half yrs plus 45 days.
(after the setting up of the abomination,wait another 1/half month; then the coming).
This is how you interpret prophesies.wakeup.
NO ,ONE AS TO LIE TO MAKE A POINT ;I HAVE SHOWN YOU WHAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION IS ,IT SEEMS YOUR LIES ARE STRONGER THAN THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD ;I START TO WONDER WHO IS YOUR FATHER
Terra.Where is your bit?
The abomination of desolation *set up*
is not the destruction of the temple.
*Destruction* does not mean *setting up*.
it's the opposite.The great tribulation will be as a whole,a period of time in the last days. Just as it happened to the temple, when it was destroyed.That was not a progress of a life time.
Great tribulation for a period of 3/half years.
The *mass* persecutions and killings will last for 3/half years.
Then the coming.
Jerusalem will be trodden by the gentiles for 3/half yrs.
rev.11:2.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,05:15) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 25 2013,00:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,10:57) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,15:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,10:14) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,09:40) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:19) let see what scriptures realy says; MT 24:9 “ Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.
MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
MT 24:29 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
MK 13:19 “For those days will be a time of tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will.
MK 13:24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT,
JN 16:33 “These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.”those words of Christ are they addressed to the apostles or to Israel ,or to all believers THAT WOULD BE LIVING AT THE TIME OF THE END OF JERUSALEM TEMPLE
it is for the believers of that time of the end of Israel and Judah being rejected by God ,within that generation just as Jesus told them ,for the have rejected life it self ,if anyone take the time to read the book of FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS ,THE HISTORIAN THAT LIVED THROUGH IT ALL ,AND OTHERS ;YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT CHRIST AS SAID CAME TO PASS WITHIN THAT GENERATION ;(I DID READ AND MORE PLEASE READ IT )
NOW THEIR ARE TRIBULATION OR HARD TIMES FOR ALL WHO BELIEVE IN MANY FORMS DURING OUR LIVES ON EARTH THE NEXT SCRIPTURES WILL DEAL WITH THAT ;
RO 2:9 There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek,
RO 5:3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance;
RO 8:35 Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
RO 12:12 rejoicing in hope, persevering in tribulation, devoted to prayer,
1TH 1:6 You also became imitators of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much tribulation with the joy of the Holy Spirit,
REV 1:9 I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.
REV 2:9 ‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
REV 2:10 ‘Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.EVEN TODAY ALL OVER THE WORLD THERE ARE SOME TRUE BELIEVERS THAT COME TO CHRIST IN TRIBULATION BECAUSE OF THE WORLD AROUND THEM BUT NOT ALL SUFFER THE SAME THINGS BUT GOD LOOKS OUT FOR THOSE RIGHTEOUS ,I DO PRAY FOR THEM ,I MAY NOT KNOW THEM BUT WE HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT ,
The brothers of the past that have gone through their tribulation are now under the altar of God.
They are told to wait untill their fellow brothers also will be killed. This is coming.
We are their fellow brothers that will also be killed like they were.
This will happen in the coming great tribulation.
As never ever was and never will be again.wakeup.
SORRY BUT I DISAGREE WITH YOU ,THIS IS AN ON GOING PROCESS ,UNTIL THE TIME THAT GOD AS SET ,COMES TO ITS END ,AND THAT THE NUMBER OF THE 144 K HIS COMPLETYOU SEE IT IS ALL ABOUT GOD NOT MEN ,IT IS ALL ABOUT GOD;S NAME NOT MEN'S GLORY
You are just denying what the scripture says.
Not denying me.
The scriptures says the geat tribulation will be
as never before and never will be again.Daniel 12:1 And **at that time shall Michael stand up**, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and **there shall be a time of trouble**
, **such as never was since there was a nation** even to that same time: and **at that time thy people shall be delivered**, **every one** that shall be found written in the book.Daniel 12:2 And many of them **that sleep in the dust** of the earth **shall awake**, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
THIS IS NOT A PROCESS OF TIME.
BUT WILL HAPPEN IN THE DAY OF THE HARVEST.
THE GREAT TRIBULATION WILL LAST FOR 3/HALF YEARS.wakeup.
WELL WE WILL SEE IF YOU WERE RIGHT DON'T WE ,remember it is not your words that counts but God's word ,and plan ,
and so far i can not see that in your configuration of bits and pieces of scriptures ;
it is at best shaky
You dont need to wait and see;
the scriptures are very clear.
The great tribulation will last for 3/half years,Some will be killed,for refusing the mark of the beast,some for preaching the Word.Multitudes of men in white robes coming out of great tribulation will be judged and given each their reward.
(rev2o:4–6).These consist off all that have been killed during the centuries,and the last days.wakeup.
no,this is your clarification of what you like those scriptures to mean ,don't get to far ,in your dreams ,Daniel
Da 12:10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
Da 12:11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Da 12
:12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.
Da 12:13 “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.you think that because you give any interpretation to that scripture YOU WOULD BE CALLED WISE
YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE ,
Terra.Many will be purified yes: **and those are the multitudes coming out of great tribulations rev7:9–17**. They have been given white robes/purified.
Not just any interpretation.
From the time the daily sacrifice taken away to the abomination of desolation *SETUP* will be 1290days.3/half yrs.
The coming;will be at the 1335 day. 3/half yrs plus 45 days.
(after the setting up of the abomination,wait another 1/half month; then the coming).
This is how you interpret prophesies.wakeup.
YOU TRY TO BRING BACK WHAT AS BEEN FULFILLED ,BUT YOU KNOW BETTER ;
YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE IS TO GREAT TO UNDERSTAND ,TRUTH ;SO MAKE SOME RESEARCH IN SCRIPTURES AND TRUE HISTORY ;
YOU NEEDED
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 25 2013,14:36) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,05:15) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 25 2013,00:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,10:57) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,15:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,10:14) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 24 2013,09:40) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,14:19) let see what scriptures realy says; MT 24:9 “ Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.
MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
MT 24:29 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
MK 13:19 “For those days will be a time of tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will.
MK 13:24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT,
JN 16:33 “These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.”those words of Christ are they addressed to the apostles or to Israel ,or to all believers THAT WOULD BE LIVING AT THE TIME OF THE END OF JERUSALEM TEMPLE
it is for the believers of that time of the end of Israel and Judah being rejected by God ,within that generation just as Jesus told them ,for the have rejected life it self ,if anyone take the time to read the book of FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS ,THE HISTORIAN THAT LIVED THROUGH IT ALL ,AND OTHERS ;YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT CHRIST AS SAID CAME TO PASS WITHIN THAT GENERATION ;(I DID READ AND MORE PLEASE READ IT )
NOW THEIR ARE TRIBULATION OR HARD TIMES FOR ALL WHO BELIEVE IN MANY FORMS DURING OUR LIVES ON EARTH THE NEXT SCRIPTURES WILL DEAL WITH THAT ;
RO 2:9 There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek,
RO 5:3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance;
RO 8:35 Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
RO 12:12 rejoicing in hope, persevering in tribulation, devoted to prayer,
1TH 1:6 You also became imitators of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much tribulation with the joy of the Holy Spirit,
REV 1:9 I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.
REV 2:9 ‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
REV 2:10 ‘Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.EVEN TODAY ALL OVER THE WORLD THERE ARE SOME TRUE BELIEVERS THAT COME TO CHRIST IN TRIBULATION BECAUSE OF THE WORLD AROUND THEM BUT NOT ALL SUFFER THE SAME THINGS BUT GOD LOOKS OUT FOR THOSE RIGHTEOUS ,I DO PRAY FOR THEM ,I MAY NOT KNOW THEM BUT WE HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT ,
The brothers of the past that have gone through their tribulation are now under the altar of God.
They are told to wait untill their fellow brothers also will be killed. This is coming.
We are their fellow brothers that will also be killed like they were.
This will happen in the coming great tribulation.
As never ever was and never will be again.wakeup.
SORRY BUT I DISAGREE WITH YOU ,THIS IS AN ON GOING PROCESS ,UNTIL THE TIME THAT GOD AS SET ,COMES TO ITS END ,AND THAT THE NUMBER OF THE 144 K HIS COMPLETYOU SEE IT IS ALL ABOUT GOD NOT MEN ,IT IS ALL ABOUT GOD;S NAME NOT MEN'S GLORY
You are just denying what the scripture says.
Not denying me.
The scriptures says the geat tribulation will be
as never before and never will be again.Daniel 12:1 And **at that time shall Michael stand up**, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and **there shall be a time of trouble**
, **such as never was since there was a nation** even to that same time: and **at that time thy people shall be delivered**, **every one** that shall be found written in the book.Daniel 12:2 And many of them **that sleep in the dust** of the earth **shall awake**, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
THIS IS NOT A PROCESS OF TIME.
BUT WILL HAPPEN IN THE DAY OF THE HARVEST.
THE GREAT TRIBULATION WILL LAST FOR 3/HALF YEARS.wakeup.
WELL WE WILL SEE IF YOU WERE RIGHT DON'T WE ,remember it is not your words that counts but God's word ,and plan ,
and so far i can not see that in your configuration of bits and pieces of scriptures ;
it is at best shaky
You dont need to wait and see;
the scriptures are very clear.
The great tribulation will last for 3/half years,Some will be killed,for refusing the mark of the beast,some for preaching the Word.Multitudes of men in white robes coming out of great tribulation will be judged and given each their reward.
(rev2o:4–6).These consist off all that have been killed during the centuries,and the last days.wakeup.
no,this is your clarification of what you like those scriptures to mean ,don't get to far ,in your dreams ,Daniel
Da 12:10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of
the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
Da 12:11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Da 12:12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.
Da 12:13 “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.you think that because you give any interpretation to that scripture YOU WOULD BE CALLED WISE
YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE ,
Terra.Many will be purified yes: **and those are the multitudes coming out of great tribulations rev7:9–17**. They have been given white robes/purified.
Not just any interpretation.
From the time the daily sacrifice taken away to the abomination of desolation *SETUP* will be 1290days.3/half yrs.
The coming;will be at the 1335 day. 3/half yrs plus 45 days.
(after the setting up of the abomination,wait another 1/half month; then the coming).
This is how you interpret prophesies.wakeup.
YOU TRY TO BRING BACK WHAT AS BEEN FULFILLED ,BUT YOU KNOW BETTER ;
YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE IS TO GREAT TO UNDERSTAND ,TRUTH ;SO MAKE SOME RESEARCH IN SCRIPTURES AND TRUE HISTORY ;
YOU NEEDED
You call yourself a man of God,
but disregarding his Word.
Instead trusting in history books,
rather than Gods Word.
You really are a man of the world,
at heart.Posing as a man of God
with your lips.Considering scriptures and prophecy as
of no significant.wakeup.
Quote You call yourself a man of God,
but disregarding his Word.
Instead trusting in history books,
rather than Gods Word.
You really are a man of the world,
at heart.Posing as a man of God
with your lips.Considering scriptures and prophecy as
of no significant.wakeup.
THIS ALL CAN SEE ;IT HIS WHAT YOU DOING ;REJECTING THE WORDS OF CHRIST FOR FORCING YOUR OWN VIEW ;JUST LOOK BACK IT IS ALL THERE FOR ALL TO SEE.;
WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO FOOL
Hi:
I watched this video on YouTube today, and I was going to post it, but I see that it is already here and being discussed. I just want to say that I agree with these two guys that there is no “secret rapture”, and that the church will be here during the great tribulation, but my understanding is that the church will be here for approximately 45 day from the onset of the great tribulation, which will be ushered in by the abomination of desolation.
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Mat 24:15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Mat 24:16
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains
Mat 24:17
Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18
Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20
But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Quote
Dan 12:11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Dan 12:12
Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
1290 days from the time the daily sacrifice is taken away and the abomination of desolation set up then blessed are those who wait to the 1335 days, and that is 45 days from the 1290.
What he speaks relative to the mark of the beast and the one world order, is possible. Certainly, we are moving to a cashless society.
I don't agree with his statement “once saved always saved”.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ Oct. 05 2013,11:18) Hi: I watched this video on YouTube today, and I was going to post it, but I see that it is already here and being discussed. I just want to say that I agree with these two guys that there is no “secret rapture”, and that the church will be here during the great tribulation, but my understanding is that the church will be here for approximately 45 day from the onset of the great tribulation, which will be ushered in by the abomination of desolation.
Quote
Mat 24:15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Mat 24:16
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains
Mat 24:17
Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18
Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20
But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Quote
Dan 12:11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Dan 12:12
Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
1290 days from the time the daily sacrifice is taken away and the abomination of desolation set up then blessed are those who wait to the 1335 days, and that is 45 days from the 1290.
What he speaks relative to the mark of the beast and the one world order, is possible. Certainly, we are moving to a cashless society.
I don't agree with his statement “once saved always saved”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.Rev.11 says that jerusalem shall be trodden by the gentiles for 3/half years,(by the *kings* of the north).(families of the north,jer.25).
During the 3/half years the daily sacrifice will be taken
away,and the temple rebuild.
And also the two witnesses preaching to the jews
for 3/half years,then killed.From the time that they are killed to the coming, will be 45days. The 7th trumpet will sound.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 05 2013,11:42) Quote (942767 @ Oct. 05 2013,11:18) Hi: I watched this video on YouTube today, and I was going to post it, but I see that it is already here and being discussed. I just want to say that I agree with these two guys that there is no “secret rapture”, and that the church will be here during the great tribulation, but my understanding is that the church will be here for approximately 45 day from the onset of the great tribulation, which will be ushered in by the abomination of desolation.
Quote
Mat 24:15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Mat 24:16
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains
Mat 24:17
Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18
Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20
But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Quote
Dan 12:11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Dan 12:12
Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
1290 days from the time the daily sacrifice is taken away and the abomination of desolation set up then blessed are those who wait to the 1335 days, and that is 45 days from the 1290.
What he speaks relative to the mark of the beast and the one world order, is possible. Certainly, we are moving to a cashless society.
I don't agree with his statement “once saved always saved”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.Rev.11 says that jerusalem shall be trodden by the gentiles for 3/half years,(by the *kings* of the north).(families of the north,jer.25).
During the 3/half years the daily sacrifice will be taken
away,and the temple rebuild.
And also the two witnesses preaching to the jews
for 3/half years,then killed.From the time that they are killed to the coming, will be 45days. The 7th trumpet will sound.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:My understanding is that there will be a 7 year treaty with the nation of Israel and the temple will be rebuilt and the Jews that do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah will begin offering animal sacrifices. In the middle of this period 3 1/2 years the Anti-Christ will stop them from animal sacrifices.
The next 3 1/2 years is the period of time that the gentiles will trod underfoot Jerusalem, and this is the same period that the two witnesses will be in their ministry. 3 1/2 years is 1260 days, if my math is correct, and the scripture from Daniel states that at 1290 days from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken a way the abomination of desolation will be set up. This is the Anti-Christ sitting in the temple proclaiming that he is God.
This will be the onset of the great tribulation, and 45 days later the church will be taken out of here. I say approximately, because no one knows the day or the hour.
Everyone who is left will worship the Anti-Christ, and will receive the mark of the beast, and will be judged by the seven last plagues.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ Oct. 06 2013,02:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 05 2013,11:42) Quote (942767 @ Oct. 05 2013,11:18) Hi: I watched this video on YouTube today, and I was going to post it, but I see that it is already here and being discussed. I just want to say that I agree with these two guys that there is no “secret rapture”, and that the church will be here during the great tribulation, but my understanding is that the church will be here for approximately 45 day from the onset of the great tribulation, which will be ushered in by the abomination of desolation.
Quote
Mat 24:15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Mat 24:16
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains
Mat 24:17
Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18
Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20
But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Quote
Dan 12:11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Dan 12:12
Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
1290 days from the time the daily sacrifice is taken away and the abomination of desolation set up then blessed are those who wait to the 1335 days, and that is 45 days from the 1290.
What he speaks relative to the mark of the beast and the one world order, is possible. Certainly, we are moving to a cashless society.
I don't agree with his statement “once saved always saved”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.Rev.11 says that jerusalem shall be trodden by the gentiles for 3/half years,(by the *kings* of the north).(families of the north,jer.25).
During the 3/half years the daily sacrifice will be taken
away,and the temple rebuild.
And also the two witnesses preaching to the jews
for 3/half years,then killed.From the time that they are killed to the coming, will be 45days. The 7th trumpet will sound.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:My understanding is that there will be a 7 year treaty with the nation of Israel and the temple will be rebuilt and the Jews that do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah will begin offering animal sacrifices. In the middle of this period 3 1/2 years the Anti-Christ will stop them from animal sacrifices.
The next 3 1/2 years is the period of time that the gentiles will trod underfoot Jerusalem, and this is the same period that the two witnesses will be in their ministry. 3 1/2 years is 1260 days, if my math is correct, and the scripture from Daniel states that at 1290 days from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken a way the abomination of desolation will be set up. This is the Anti-Christ sitting in the temple proclaiming that he is God.
This will be the onset of the great tribulation, and 45 days later the church will be taken out of here. I say approximately, because no one knows the day or the hour.
Everyone who is left will worship the Anti-Christ, and will receive the mark of the beast, and will be judged by the seven last plagues.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty.I agree
I could not have done a better job in explaining.
But dont forget; there are the first fruits.wakeup.
Marty.
The 7trumpts comes first.
The *last* trump will be the coming/appearing.
The 6th trump will be the gathering of the armies.
Both opposite sides will come together to make war with the Lamb. The 7th trump would be the finish.
Armageddon will only take one day.
Babylon will be destroyed in one day.wakeup.
HiYa, If the Great Tribulation, The Breaking of the Seven Seals & the Rapture associated with this doctrine, is a futureistic event and hasn't happened yet!!! It is impossible for the blood of Christ to avail for us and there is no everlasting New Testament Covenant.
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Hi Cyrus
Quote HiYa, If the Great Tribulation, The Breaking of the Seven Seals & the Rapture associated with this doctrine, is a futureistic event and hasn't happened yet!!! It is impossible for the blood of Christ to avail for us and there is no everlasting New Testament Covenant.
Why is it impossible for the blood of Christ to avail for us?, when the new covenant came into effect at his death.Hebrews 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Hebrews 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.The New Covenant came into effect as soon as Christ died.
How can there be another covenant at another point in time?Quote (Cyrus @ Nov. 04 2013,00:16) HiYa, If the Great Tribulation, The Breaking of the Seven Seals & the Rapture associated with this doctrine, is a futureistic event and hasn't happened yet!!! It is impossible for the blood of Christ to avail for us and there is no everlasting New Testament Covenant. Cyrus javascript:%20InstaSmilie()
Cyrus that's right.
The kingdom of God starts off as a small mustard seed, and grows and grows, though it has to grow with weeds until the harvest.
Then at harvest, God will send his angels to gather out all things that offend, and destroy them. Then gather 'to his barn' those that are his. Once the gathering occurs then is eternity.
Not some temporary one thousand years.Those that remain Alive will be caught up into the air.
Come lord Jesus.Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,07:07) Quote (Cyrus @ Nov. 04 2013,00:16) HiYa, If the Great Tribulation, The Breaking of the Seven Seals & the Rapture associated with this doctrine, is a futureistic event and hasn't happened yet!!! It is impossible for the blood of Christ to avail for us and there is no everlasting New Testament Covenant. Cyrus javascript:%20InstaSmilie()
Cyrus that's right.
The kingdom of God starts off as a small mustard seed, and grows and grows, though it has to grow with weeds until the harvest.
Then at harvest, God will send his angels to gather out all things that offend, and destroy them. Then gather 'to his barn' those that are his. Once the gathering occurs then is eternity.
Not some temporary one thousand years.Those that remain Alive will be caught up into the air.
Come lord Jesus.
2besee.Yes: Then it will be reaped and a kingdom given them.
But you are contradicting yourself.
By saying that we are already reaped and in the kingdom.
Reaped and then stored.
The reaping is of the saints and then of the wicked.(rev.14).
The saints are all over the countries in the world.
They are not in the one place.(kingdom).
Why would the saints go through the great tribulation?wakeup.
Wake up,
2nd Peter 3 – The destruction of the world by fire, this being the return of Jesus.
Last chapter of the Old Testement – Malachi 4. – The Day that comes burning like an oven. The Sun of righteousness rising, with healing in it's wings.
The three men in the pit of fire (Daniel chapter 3). The fire heated seven times hotter. They did not burn, but all else did. Also, one “like the son of the gods” is seen in their midst. ( Matthew 18:20. Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in their midst”
The Sun is heated seven times hotter (Isaiah 30:26).
Matthew 24..
“So if they say to you, `Lo, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out; if they say, `Lo, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.
For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man“.
Wherever a carcass is, there the vultures will gather”. (See Revelations 19:17 -the calling of the birds to gather, by the Angel standing in the Sun).
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory; and he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” (Paul says “those who REMAIN alive” will be caught up meet Jesus in the air).
“As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of man.
Then two men will be in the field; one is taken (destroyed) and one is left (remains). Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left”.Matthew 13.
“Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.“
“The harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.“If they say to you, `Lo, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out; if they say, `Lo, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. For as lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the son of man.
“The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up”.
“But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that day should overtake you as a thief“.
The reaping is at the end of the age (coming soon).
The Saints will or may go through the tribulation.
The Saints are gathered after the destruction of wicked.2besee,Nov. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Once the gathering occurs then is eternity.
Not some temporary one thousand years.2Besse
Take it up with God then.
Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.
Can you see now where the spirit of your bible is leading you?
2besee,Nov. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Once the gathering occurs then is eternity.
Not some temporary one thousand years.2Besse
Take it up with God then.
Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.
Can you see now where the spirit of your bible is leading you?
Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,19:35) Wake up, 2nd Peter 3 – The destruction of the world by fire, this being the return of Jesus.
Last chapter of the Old Testement – Malachi 4. – The Day that comes burning like an oven. The Sun of righteousness rising, with healing in it's wings.
The three men in the pit of fire (Daniel chapter 3). The fire heated seven times hotter. They did not burn, but all else did. Also, one “like the son of the gods” is seen in their midst. ( Matthew 18:20. Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in their midst”
The Sun is heated seven times hotter (Isaiah 30:26).
Matthew 24..
“So if they say to you, `Lo, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out; if they say, `Lo, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.
For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man“.
Wherever a carcass is, there the vultures will gather”. (See Revelations 19:17 -the calling of the birds to gather, by the Angel standing in the Sun).
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory; and he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” (Paul says “those who REMAIN alive” will be caught up meet Jesus in the air).
“As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of man.
Then two men will be in the field; one is taken (destroyed) and one is left (remains). Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left”.Matthew 13.
“Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.“
“The harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.“If they say to you, `Lo, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out; if they say, `Lo, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. For as lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the son of man.
“The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up”.
“But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that day should overtake you as a thief“.
2Besee.What ever you explain need to be in harmony with
the other scriptures.
**Where can you fit these sciptures in**.Jeremiah 9:11 And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.(JUST HEAPS;NO MELTING)?
Jeremiah 51:37 And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.(BECOME HEAPS;NO MELTING)?
Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall ***break in pieces*** and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.(NO MELTING OF THE EARTH)?
Daniel 2:45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that
***it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver,
and the gold***;(NO MELTING: JUST BREAK IN PIECES)?the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
Daniel 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Daniel 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away:
***yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time***.
(NO MELTING; BUT THEY ARE PROLONGED FOR A SEASON AND TIME (1000yrs)?
Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
THIS DOES NOT SAY THE COMING;BUT WILL HAPPEN
AFTER THE 1000YEARS. DURING THE WAR OF GOG AND MAGOG.FIRE WILL COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN,FROM GOD.Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city:
***and fire came down from God out of heaven***, and devoured them.
AFTER THE 2ND RESURRECTION.AFTER THE WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT.wakeup.
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