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Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 28 2007,18:20) There is enough here for a child to see the truth! If anyone just dosen't get it yet, read the Torah. Follow Messiah.
If you can't see this then you have “NO PROOF” that Y'shua is the Messiah and come time, you will crumble when Satan tries you. You will stumble and you will fall into the pit!
HIS ONLY SIGN!!!
Yes and you seem to be missing the whole POINT of the sign!The significance you put forth is TIME. Jesus in the heart of the earth (grave, as you believe) three days and three nights, as Jonah in the belly three days and three nights. Well whoopty- doo. To me there is not a whole lot of significance in that. This is what you hang your proof that Jesus is the Messiah on. Say what
I think the fact of believing he rose from the dead, is probably the greatest proof of Jesus being the Messiah.
Jonah was fearing for his LIFE during those three days and three nights. Jonah was learning to be OBEDIENT and to follow God's Will. Does that ring a bell to you Laurel? Ding, ding!
From the day Jesus learns he is going to be betrayed, he is weary about his life, he even asks God to let this cup pass over him, but stays true to God and allows God's Will to be done. Jesus learns obedience through suffering from the time of his betrayal to his death, which just so happens to be three days and three nights.
Laurel, I truly believe that if someone does not have the fulll truth about certain details in the bible that doesn't matter. What matters is their heart and whether they truly love YHWH and His ways, if they seek to be a good person and try their best to follow the golden rule. In due time we will all be united in the truth.
Have you ever asked yourself WHY God didn't allow the bible to be translated perfectly? Obviously as His Will be done, it was allowed on purpose. Those who seek and debate the scriptures, I believe as YHWH intended are learning how to be patient with eachother as well as how to love under diversity. Moreover, all this time we spend sifting out scripture we are growing in more and more desire for the truth, leading to a greater desire for Jesus to return, so all things will finally be revealed.
People will stumble if they have hate and pride in their heart, not from not knowing certain details of the bible.
Quote (942767 @ Nov. 29 2007,00:40) Hi All: Thanks, Jodi for all your work of this subject. I don't know if this has been realized already or not and I don't have time to read all of the posts, but what I am seeing is that the meal that Jesus had with the disciples was on the night of the 14th. That is at 6PM at the beginning of the 14th. That was the day when the lambs for the passover were to be killed. I was reading this as if the passover lambs were already killed and they were having lamb at that supper but this is not the case. Try reading this from this perspective and I believe we will have the truth.
God Bless
The meal Y'shua had His taugh ones eat was at the beginning of the Passover. It was the night time that followed the 13th. So it was the 14th at the beginning of the Passover before the sun came up that He was betrayed!He was taken by force and tried. On the 14th day, He was nailed to the tree, as the way Egypt. It was dark for 3 hours, while there was normaly daylight.
At the end of the third hour he “gave up the Spirit.” He died. He was dead. He slept.
He was placed in the tomb just before sunset, so as not to defile the high Sabbath of the first day of Unleavened Bread.
After 72 hours, exactly 3 nights, and 3 days, YHWH our Elohim raised His Son from the dead, to proove Scripture.
Some time on the first day of the week, after He appeared to Mariam, and before He appeared to Thomas, He went to His Father and was restored. After this He was “touchable” again.
After He had witnessed to “enough” witnesses, that He had been restored, He assended back to His Father and is now seated at YHWH's right hand, on the thrown of Heaven, with the earth as His footstool.
One day soon, in His due Season, when the majority of the self proclaimed Christians are oblivious, He will return with a shout, when “the trumpets” sound. His feet will not touch the ground.
The dead, who are alseep, will be raised up first, then those who are still alive and believe and have been “following” Him will be raised up, all their bodies will be changed. We will meet Him in the air.
Judgement will fall on those still on the earth.
There will be those who say they have done “great works” in His Name, BUT Y'shua will say to them, “I never knew you, you workers of lawlessness.
So to all of you who think you are on the right path, get it right, before it is too late. You are alseep, and you will not know the great and terrible day He returns!!!
Luk 15:8 Either what woman having ten pieces of silver, if she lose one piece, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently till she find it?
1Ti 5:10 Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work. (notice the word “good” and not works of lawlessness)
Heb 11:6 But without belief it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to Elohim must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Be diligent, and believe.
Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 29 2007,07:17) The meal Y'shua had His taugh ones eat was at the beginning of the Passover. It was the night time that followed the 13th. So it was the 14th at the beginning of the Passover before the sun came up that He was betrayed!
Sorry Laurel but if you look a little closer I believe you will see that is just not correct.Exodus 12:18 In the first month you are to eat bread made without yeast, from the evening of the fourteenth day until the evening of the twenty-first day.
Leviticus 23:4 “'These are the Lord's appointed feasts, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times: 5 The Lord's Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month.6 On the fifteenth day of that month the Lord's Feast of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast. 7 On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.
Numbers 28:16“'On the fourteenth day of the first month the Lord's Passover is to be held. 17 On the fifteenth day of this month there is to be a festival; for seven days eat bread made without yeast.
When it says,”you are to eat bread made without yeast, from the evening of the fourteenth day” they are talking about from the 14-15th not the 13-14. Otherwise the 14th would be the first DAY of Unleavened bread. Scripture clearly tells us that the 15th is the First DAY of Unleavened Bread.
Do you see your problem here?
Once again Jesus and his disciples kept the Passover, meaning on the evening of the 14-15th they ate the new Passover meal which Jesus instituted. That night he was betrayed and the next morning, the First Day of Unleavened Bread he was crucified!
Matthew, Mark and Luke, seem to indicate that the Last Supper was a Passover meal, but in contrast, the Gospel of John clearly states that the Passover lambs were sacrificed the day AFTER the Last Supper, and that the nation of Israel observed the Passover meal on the following evening.
You see, this was Wednesday evening, Jewish time, which makes it six o’clock on Tuesday night.
(THANKS 94! you were so hunged up on with six'o'clock so I did some research! Jewish observed the day started with the night and went from evening until morning, and then from morning until evening, starts and ends at sunset, six hours earlier then our day; therefore, their Sabbath starts at six o'clock on our Friday evening and ends at six o'clock on our Saturday evening.This also proves Yeshua was not ressurected on Sunday or back to back sabbath or there would be no gap to buy and prepare ointment).
Wednesday STARTS at six o’clock Tuesday NIGHT. The Last Supper happened TUESDAY NIGHT AFTER six o’clock, which was the first part – the morning, if you will – of Wednesday.
Secondly, Yeshua says that He DESIRES to eat the Passover with them, but He will NOT EAT IT {UNTIL} the Kingdom comes. I mean, it doesn’t make sense, unless He was talking about the Passover the following evening and so forth.
The most telling witness is that of the Gospel of John, which specifically states that the lambs were to be sacrificed the following day, and that the nation of Israel was to observe the Passover meal on the following evening, John 19:31. The Jews therefore, because it was THE DAY OF PREPARATION – and this is the day of the Crucifixion, but they’re calling it the DAY OF PREPARATION. Preparation for what? To kill and eat the Passover. The day of preparation. So that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath, because that Sabbath was a high day, they asked Pilate that their legs be broken, the people who were crucified. And that they might be taken away. In John 19:42 it says, Therefore on the account of the Jewish DAY OF PREPARATION – again, there is the adequate witness – because the tomb was nearby, they laid Jesus there.
The DAY OF PREPARATION refers to Wednesday, the {14} of Abib, which STARTED Tuesday night, when the Passover lambs were sacrificed in preparation for the Passover meal on Wednesday EVENING, AFTER six o’clock, which now was Thursday, the 15th. Now, for the reason presented above, the Last Supper could not have been a traditional Passover meal. However, the Last Supper was Yeshua REVEALING HIMSELF to be God’s Passover Lamb, to be sacrificed for the sins of humankind at that time. Because Yeshua is the Passover Lamb, there can be no other lamb at the meal. See how that works? He was going to go to be the sacrifice. So the real thing was there now; we didn’t have to do the type of the sacrifice now. The bread and the wine is the “New Covenant” that he was introducing his deciples to…That’s why Yeshua says, Do this in REMEMBRANCE of Me. And He gave thanks, broke it, said, This is my body, this is for you, do this in remembrance of Me. In the same way, He also took the cup, and after saying, This is the cup OF THE New Covenant of my blood, do this as often as you drink it IN REMEMBRANCE OF Me. That all comes out of 1 Corinthians, where Paul writes about the communion.
Hi all!
Now someone explain to me the followig scriptures…
Lk 24:1
Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.LK 24:13
And, behold, two of them went that *same day* (the 1st day of the week) to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
14 And they talked together of all these things which had happened.
15 And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.
16 But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
17 And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?
21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, **to day is the third day** (1st day of the week)since these things were done.Lukes account clearly shows that on the same day the “first day of the week“, Sunday, when Mary Magdalene went to the tomb, is when the disciples spoke with Yeshua in which they said…
to day is the third day since these things were done.
This account proves 2 things.
1. Yeshua rose on Sunday confirming Marks account.
2. It was the “Third day” after his betrayal, crucifixion, death, and burial, the first day of the week that he arose and appeared to the disciples, which also confirms Marks account.
Mk 16:9
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.Jesus also said…
Lk 13:32
And He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, 'Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.'
33 Nevertheless I must journey on today and tomorrow and the next day; for it cannot be that a prophet would perish outside of Jerusalem.Jesus is telling us here what he meant by three days or third day.
Example is if he made this statement on Wednesday, it would read…
And He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, 'Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today (Wed) and tomorrow (Thur), and the third day (Fri) I reach My goal.'
So Jesus own words for 3 days is not 72 hours. He includes the current day as one day.
Using that principle, He was crucified and buried on Friday,(1st day), Saturday, (2nd day), Raised, Sunday, (3rd day).
Yeshua also would have had to rise on Sunday the first day of the week for these reasons…
A. Day of first fruits and Pentecost always fell on a Sunday:
1. New Bible dictionary, Passover:
o“The Sadducees celebrated it on the 50th day (inclusive reckoning) from the first Sunday after Passover (taking the ‘Sabbath’ of Lv. 23:15 to be the weekly Sabbath); their reckoning regulated the public observance so long as the Temple stood, and the church is therefore justified in commemorating the first Christian Pentecost on a Sunday (Whit Sunday). The Pharisees, however, interpreted the ‘Sabbath’ of Lv. 23:15 as the Festival of Unleavened Bread (cf. Lv. 23:7), and their reckoning became normative in Judaism after ad 70, so that in the Jewish calendar Pentecost now falls on various days of the week.” (New Bible dictionary, Passover)
2. Still fell on Sunday in 33 AD!
oEven if the Sabbath of Lev 23:11&15 is not the weekly Sabbath, but a reference to the first day of unleavened bread, being the Sabbath, the Wave/ sheaf/ First fruits offering AND Pentecost still fell on Sunday in 33 AD, the year Jesus was crucified!!!
oThose who say Jesus was crucified on a Thursday or Wednesday cannot absolutely guarantee that first fruits and Pentecost always fell on a Sunday because they must use a different year (ie. 30 AD) in which Nisan 14 would not fall on a Friday.B. Passover the type of Christ’s crucifixion
1.Friday: Exodus = Passover meal = Christ crucified type of the crucifixion day Nisan 14C. Wave/ sheaf/ first fruits the type of Christ’s resurrection
1.1 Cor 15:20 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep.
2.Sunday: First fruits = Christ raised (the Omer, or day of first fruits, a clear type of the resurrection day, but not a Sabbath day!) Lev 23:10-12
3.The Israelites were instructed to be ready to leave Egypt at daybreak on the 15th (morning of the 15th). (Ex 12:1-13) They then traveled day and night for the next few days first to Etham and then to Pi Hahiroth where they encamped by the sea. (Ex 13:20-14:2) After the Egyptians appeared, the Lord parted the Red Sea all that night (Ex 14:21) from which the Israelites emerged on the other side as the day was dawning and at which time the sea covered the Egyptians. (Ex 14:27) This event is a shadow of the fulfillment of the day of First Fruits. Therefore the people of Israel were “saved” by coming through the Red Sea on the same day of the year and same time of day that Jesus rose from the dead as the “savior” of all who will turn to him–Nisan 17, before dawn.
http://www.bible.ca/d-3-days-and-3-nights.htm#IIIYeshua is the first fruit of the New Creation. The number 8 is the number of the circumcision and means “New Beginnings”.
The eigth day is a Sunday anyway you cut it.To harmonize all scriptures you have to take all scriptures and compare them and weave them together without contradiction.
Blessings.
Part of a Paper written by Wayne Jackson, Aug 21st 2001
The Problem
While John 18:28 seems to be problematic, there are possible solutions which relieve the narrative of conflict. The passage reads as follows:
“Then they led Jesus from the house of Caiaphas to the praetorium. It was early. They themselves did not enter the praetorium, so that they might not be defiled, but might eat the passover.”
On the surface, this seems to suggest that the Passover had not been celebrated as yet. What shall be said of this confusing situation?
Possible SolutionsSeveral solutions have been proposed to this problem by respectable scholars.
First, some have contended that the meal Jesus ate with the disciples, commonly called the “last supper” was another sort of meal, but not the Passover. Burton Coffman, based upon his view of John 18:28, says there is “no way” this could have been the Passover1.
Unfortunately, this view conflicts with the testimony of Matthew, Mark, and Luke (see above). As one prominent scholar has observed, “hardly a single Bible expositor of note today” agrees with this opinion2.
Second, some have argued that Jesus ate the Passover supper a day earlier than the Jews normally did. Sadler contends, for example, that Christ had the authority to do this because he was “greater than” the Law, the Sabbath, and the Temple3.
Moreover, there was Old Testament authority for changing the Passover time under appropriate circumstances. The feast could be observed on the 14th day of the second month (instead of the first) by those who had been away on a trip, or those who had been ceremonially unclean, at the regular time (cf. Num. 9:9-12).
The problem with this view, however, is that it appears to conflict with other explicit New Testament information that indicates the Lord and his disciples ate the Passover on the first day of unleavened bread (Mt. 26:17; Mk. 14:12), the normal day for the supper.
Third, it is possible that the Jews at large had eaten the Passover meal already (i.e., on the assigned day), but that these Hebrew leaders (Jn. 18:12), due to their frenzied activity in attempting to deal with Jesus, had postponed eating the supper. William Hendriksen seems inclined to this view, and he believes that H. Mulder has argued the case in convincing fashion4.
Fourth, a few scholars have contended that John’s record, versus that of the Synoptics, reflects the use of two slightly different calendars. Leon Morris sees this as the most likely solution to the enigma. He writes:
The most natural reading of the Synoptists shows the meal there to be the Passover. The most natural reading of John shows Jesus as crucified at the very time the Passover victims were slain in the temple. While it is undoubtedly possible so to interpret the evidence as to make both tell the same story it seems preferable to see them as following different calendars. According to the calendar Jesus was following the meal was the Passover. But the temple authorities followed another, according to which the sacrificial victims were slain the next day5.
This theory appears to have few supporters6.
Fifth, the Greek word for Passover is pascha. The term is used in three different senses in the Bible.
Sometimes the word stands for the Passover sacrifice, the lamb itself (Mk. 14:12; Lk. 22:7; 1 Cor. 5:7).
On other occasions pascha can denote the meal that was eaten on the 14th of Nisan, the first month of the Hebrew calendar (Mt. 26:18-19; Lk. 22:8, 13; Heb. 11:28).
But it is also the case that the term pascha can refer to the entire eight-day period which included the feast of unleavened bread—thus from the 14th of Nisan to the 21st. Note this passage:
In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, you shall observe the Passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten” (Ezek: 45:21; cf. Lk. 22:1, 7; Acts 12:3-4).
F.W. Danker7 notes: “Popular usage merged the two festivals and treated them as a unity, as they were for all practical purposes.”
There were several “feasts” during this period (see 2 Chron. 30:22); the one mentioned in John 18:28 may have been on the day following the main Passover supper. It was called the Chagigah (sacrificial meal). This view is defended by many respectable scholars, e.g., Lenski and Edersheim. Edward Robinson has a clear and detailed explanation of this position that is worthy of serious consideration, and, in this writer’s judgment, this argument carries the greatest weight of evidence8.
In conclusion we must say that we may not be able to determine the precise situation alluded to in John 18:28. Nonetheless, there are sufficient possibilities to establish the fact that no insuperable difficulty exists to challenge our confidence in the sacred text.
Well then what day was this Sabbath?
Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
Was it not the first day of unleavened bread?
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.The first day [15th day after Passover] is a holy convocation. A high Sabbath no work was to be done!
The Feast of Unleavened Bread
The Feast of Unleavened Bread (Hag HaMatzah in Hebrew) is the second of the seven feasts that the L-RD commanded Israel to celebrate. “And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the L-RD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the L-RD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein” (Leviticus 23:6-8). It was to be celebrated for seven days, beginning on the evening of the 15th of Nisan through the 21st of Nisan.
In the time of the earthly ministry of Yeshua, the celebration of both the Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread was identified collectively as “the Passover”– “Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover” (Luke 22:1). Modern Judaism still observes these eight days collectively as Passover (Pesach)– Nisan 14 through 21.
Seven high days are designated in Leviticus 23 (verses 7, 8, 21, 25, 28, 30-32, 35-36). These high days are Sabbaths. They were to be treated like the seventh day Sabbath, even though they could occur on a day other than the seventh day (Saturday) of the week– which was the normal Jewish Sabbath. The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, Nisan 15, was the first of the seven high days. The seventh day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, Nisan 21, was the second of the seven high days of Leviticus 23. This could cause confusion in understanding the events of the week of Yeshua's crucifixion, since both the day before the weekly Sabbath as well as the day before the Feast of Unleavened Bread were designated as Preparation days.
Tradition holds that Yeshua was crucified on Friday (instead of Thursday) because of a reference to “the preparation” and “the sabbath day” in the same verse. “The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away” (John 19:31). In this instance, “the preparation” was for the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread which was an “high day” and consequently a “sabbath day”. Unleavened bread was historically the symbol of Israel's flight from Egyptian bondage in the time of Moses– they were in too much of a hurry to allow the dough to be leavened. “And the people took their dough before it was leavened… And they baked unleavened cakes of the dough which they brought forth out of Egypt, for it was not leavened; because they were thrust out of Egypt, and could not tarry, neither had they prepared for themselves any provisions.” (Exodus 12:34,39). Leaven (yeast), in the Feast of Unleavened Bread, was something Israel was enjoined to put away on the penalty of being cut off from the nation of Israel. “Whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel” (Exodus 12:15). This was very strong language for a ceremony– unless the L-RD G-d was trying to teach Israel the significance of something future, that would be put away to make them clean. Of course, that something is Yeshua. “For He hath made Him to be sin for us, Who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of G-d in Him” (2Corinthians 5:21). Sin is typified by the leaven. “Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth” (1Corinthians 5:8).
The New Testament fulfillment of the Feast of Unleavened Bread is the burial of Yeshua. He was placed in the tomb shortly before the first moments of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Yeshua was the unleavened bread. “I am the Living Bread which came down from Heaven: if any man eat of this Bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is My flesh, which I will give for the life of the world” (John 6:51). As leaven is a type for sin, Yeshua became “sin for us… that we might be made the righteousness of G-d in Him” (2Corinthians 5:21).Mat 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.No sign would be given BUTthat HE would be in the grave three days and three nights.
An evil and adulterous seek after a sign and NO SIGN SHALL BE GIVEN BUT….
I believe Jesus was in the tomb three days and three nights BECAUSE HE SAID SO!
The Spirit bears witness that JESUS IS the Messiah. BUT hey if you need PHYSICAL PROOF as an evil and adulterous generation does then there it is!
You deny Jesus was three days and three nights then according to JESUS you deny that HE is the Messiah.
I don't need physical proof. But the scriptural proof states that Jesus was in the tomb as he said HE would be. The RCC teaches otherwise in order to keep with their first day of the week Sabbath and Easter Pagan days.
Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe!
Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 29 2007,13:58) Well then what day was this Sabbath? Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
Was it not the first day of unleavened bread?
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.The first day [15th day after Passover] is a holy convocation. A high Sabbath no work was to be done!
The Feast of Unleavened Bread
The Feast of Unleavened Bread (Hag HaMatzah in Hebrew) is the second of the seven feasts that the L-RD commanded Israel to celebrate. “And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the L-RD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the L-RD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein” (Leviticus 23:6-8). It was to be celebrated for seven days, beginning on the evening of the 15th of Nisan through the 21st of Nisan.
In the time of the earthly ministry of Yeshua, the celebration of both the Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread was identified collectively as “the Passover”– “Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover” (Luke 22:1). Modern Judaism still observes these eight days collectively as Passover (Pesach)– Nisan 14 through 21.
Seven high days are designated in Leviticus 23 (verses 7, 8, 21, 25, 28, 30-32, 35-36). These high days are Sabbaths. They were to be treated like the seventh day Sabbath, even though they could occur on a day other than the seventh day (Saturday) of the week– which was the normal Jewish Sabbath. The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, Nisan 15, was the first of the seven high days. The seventh day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, Nisan 21, was the second of the seven high days of Leviticus 23. This could cause confusion in understanding the events of the week of Yeshua's crucifixion, since both the day before the weekly Sabbath as well as the day before the Feast of Unleavened Bread were designated as Preparation days.
Tradition holds that Yeshua was crucified on Friday (instead of Thursday) because of a reference to “the preparation” and “the sabbath day” in the same verse. “The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away” (John 19:31). In this instance, “the preparation” was for the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread which was an “high day” and consequently a “sabbath day”. Unleavened bread was historically the symbol of Israel's flight from Egyptian bondage in the time of Moses– they were in too much of a hurry to allow the dough to be leavened. “And the people took their dough before it was leavened… And they baked unleavened cakes of the dough which they brought forth out of Egypt, for it was not leavened; because they were thrust out of Egypt, and could not tarry, neither had they prepared for themselves any provisions.” (Exodus 12:34,39). Leaven (yeast), in the Feast of Unleavened Bread, was something Israel was enjoined to put away on the penalty of being cut off from the nation of Israel. “Whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel” (Exodus 12:15). This was very strong language for a ceremony– unless the L-RD G-d was trying to teach Israel the significance of something future, that would be put away to make them clean. Of course, that something is Yeshua. “For He hath made Him to be sin for us, Who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of G-d in Him” (2Corinthians 5:21). Sin is typified by the leaven. “Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth” (1Corinthians 5:8).
The New Testament fulfillment of the Feast of Unleavened Bread is the burial of Yeshua. He was placed in the tomb shortly before the first moments of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Yeshua was the unleavened bread. “I am the Living Bread which came down from Heaven: if any man eat of this Bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is My flesh, which I will give for the life of the world” (John 6:51). As leaven is a type for sin, Yeshua became “sin for us… that we might be made the righteousness of G-d in Him” (2Corinthians 5:21).Mat 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.No sign would be given BUTthat HE would be in the grave three days and three nights.
An evil and adulterous seek after a sign and NO SIGN SHALL BE GIVEN BUT….
I believe Jesus was in the tomb three days and three nights BECAUSE HE SAID SO!
The Spirit bears witness that JESUS IS the Messiah. BUT hey if you need PHYSICAL PROOF as an evil and adulterous generation does then there it is!
You deny Jesus was three days and three nights then according to JESUS you deny that HE is the Messiah.
I don't need physical proof. But the scriptural proof states that Jesus was in the tomb as he said HE would be. The RCC teaches otherwise in order to keep with their first day of the week Sabbath and Easter Pagan days.
Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe!
Ken This is the way we kept those Feast Days in the World Wide Church of God. We also washed each others feet on Passover which always wa a humbling expierience. It took place just the way you say.Peace and Love Mrs.
Luke 11:30 For just as Jonah became a sign to the people of Nineveh, so the Son of Man will be to this generation.
Mt 12:40 – For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so for three days and three nights the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth. 41 The people of Nineveh will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the proclamation of Jonah, and see, something greater than Jonah is here!
Just as Jonah was seen as a savior in a way to the people of Nineveh, Jesus is greater as a savior to all people.
I don’t see how the SIGN has anything to do with Jesus being raised from the dead. This is why ‘heart of the earth’ does not mean the grave.
I am curious as to know who came up with relating Jonah in the fish to Jesus’ time in the grave. I see no indication that the SIGN has anything to do with TIME in the grave.
Maybe if these texts said three days and three nights I might consider. But I find it very interesting as I’m sure WJ does too, that they only say THREE DAYS and that they NEVER include the nights!
Mt 27:63 –
and said, “Sir, we remember what that impostor said while he was still alive, “After three days I will rise again.'Mr 8:31 –
Then he began to teach them that the Son of Man must undergo great suffering, and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests, and the scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.Mr 9:31 –
for he was teaching his disciples, saying to them, “The Son of Man is to be betrayed into human hands, and they will kill him, and three days after being killed, he will rise again.”Mr 10:34 –
they will mock him, and spit upon him, and flog him, and kill him; and after three days he will rise again.”Quote I am curious as to know who came up with relating Jonah in the fish to Jesus’ time in the grave. I see no indication that the SIGN has anything to do with TIME in the grave. I believe it was JESUS.
Mat 12:39 But he answered them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
Mat 12:40 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.The Gospels are not written the same. That is, they are not copied for one another. I might say he gave me a dollar. Knowing that the person had to dig in his pocket to do so. While you may say “He dug in his pocket and gave me a dollar”.
Why did Jesus refer to Jonah? Because Jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the fish. He gave it as a reference so people would understand. NOT two days one night, NOT two nights one day, BUT 3 days and 3 nights just as Jonah.
Why would Jesus be so precise. Then say it is the only sign that he was to give to those who needed a sign. Then as the RCC does the opposite of what Jesus said NOT to do, like call no man father, They change the Sabbath and orchestrate everything around it. Thus Jesus was raised on their Sabbath. And Jesus was not in the heart of the earth 3 days and 3 nights. Sure they now realize their mistake so it goes out that a Jewish day is only 12 hours, and every excuse under the sun. Is it no wonder why Jesus said “Days and Nights”. Is it possible that GOD knew what Satan would say and do? Is it possible that God knew that Satan would create a false Sabbath to the first day? Dan7:25
As I said I believe Jesus was in the heart of the earth 3 days and 3 nights because HE SAID SO. I know He is the promised Messiah. I know He was raised from the dead. I'm saved because I know these things through the Spirit Not because how long He was in the earth. What the 3 days and nights show is the false Sabbath and the false church, AS I'm sure it was supposed to do.
Please just keep the commandments of God and have faith in Jesus, Rev. 14:12
God bless,
Ken
If Jesus was meaning a litteral 72 hr period, then please explain the following…
Lk 24:1
Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.LK 24:13
And, behold, two of them went that *same day* (the 1st day of the week) to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
14 And they talked together of all these things which had happened.
15 And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.
16 But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
17 And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?
21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, **to day is the third day** (1st day of the week)since these things were done.Lukes account clearly shows that on the same day the “first day of the week“, Sunday, when Mary Magdalene went to the tomb, is when the disciples spoke with Yeshua in which they said…
to day is the third day since these things were done.
This account proves 2 things.
1. Yeshua rose on Sunday confirming Marks account.
2. It was the “Third day” after his betrayal, crucifixion, death, and burial, the first day of the week that he arose and appeared to the disciples, which also confirms Marks account.
Mk 16:9
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.Jesus also said…
Lk 13:32
And He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, 'Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.'
33 Nevertheless I must journey on today and tomorrow and the next day; for it cannot be that a prophet would perish outside of Jerusalem.Jesus is telling us here what he meant by three days or third day.
Example is if he made this statement on Wednesday, it would read…
And He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, 'Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today (Wed) and tomorrow (Thur), and the third day (Fri) I reach My goal.'
So Jesus own words for 3 days is not 72 hours. He includes the current day as one day.
Using that principle, He was crucified and buried on Friday,(1st day), Saturday, (2nd day), Raised, Sunday, (3rd day).
Yeshua also would have had to rise on Sunday the first day of the week for these reasons…
A. Day of first fruits and Pentecost always fell on a Sunday:
1. New Bible dictionary, Passover:
o“The Sadducees celebrated it on the 50th day (inclusive reckoning) from the first Sunday after Passover (taking the ‘Sabbath’ of Lv. 23:15 to be the weekly Sabbath); their reckoning regulated the public observance so long as the Temple stood, and the church is therefore justified in commemorating the first Christian Pentecost on a Sunday (Whit Sunday). The Pharisees, however, interpreted the ‘Sabbath’ of Lv. 23:15 as the Festival of Unleavened Bread (cf. Lv. 23:7), and their reckoning became normative in Judaism after ad 70, so that in the Jewish calendar Pentecost now falls on various days of the week.” (New Bible dictionary, Passover)
2. Still fell on Sunday in 33 AD!
oEven if the Sabbath of Lev 23:11&15 is not the weekly Sabbath, but a reference to the first day of unleavened bread, being the Sabbath, the Wave/ sheaf/ First fruits offering AND Pentecost still fell on Sunday in 33 AD, the year Jesus was crucified!!!
oThose who say Jesus was crucified on a Thursday or Wednesday cannot absolutely guarantee that first fruits and Pentecost always fell on a Sunday because they must use a different year (ie. 30 AD) in which Nisan 14 would not fall on a Friday.B. Passover the type of Christ’s crucifixion
1.Friday: Exodus = Passover meal = Christ crucified type of the crucifixion day Nisan 14C. Wave/ sheaf/ first fruits the type of Christ’s resurrection
1.1 Cor 15:20 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep.
2.Sunday: First fruits = Christ raised (the Omer, or day of first fruits, a clear type of the resurrection day, but not a Sabbath day!) Lev 23:10-12
3.The Israelites were instructed to be ready to leave Egypt at daybreak on the 15th (morning of the 15th). (Ex 12:1-13) They then traveled day and night for the next few days first to Etham and then to Pi Hahiroth where they encamped by the sea. (Ex 13:20-14:2) After the Egyptians appeared, the Lord parted the Red Sea all that night (Ex 14:21) from which the Israelites emerged on the other side as the day was dawning and at which time the sea covered the Egyptians. (Ex 14:27) This event is a shadow of the fulfillment of the day of First Fruits. Therefore the people of Israel were “saved” by coming through the Red Sea on the same day of the year and same time of day that Jesus rose from the dead as the “savior” of all who will turn to him–Nisan 17, before dawn.
http://www.bible.ca/d-3-days-and-3-nights.htm#IIIYeshua is the first fruit of the New Creation. The number 8 is the number of the circumcision and means “New Beginnings”.
The eigth day is a Sunday anyway you cut it.To harmonize all scriptures you have to take all scriptures and compare them and weave them together without contradiction.
Blessings.
Bottom line:
What matters is keeping God's commandments and faith in Jesus.
1Cor. 7:19; Rev. 14:12.Bless you WJ,
Ken
Thank you Ken,
But I don't believe when you read the scriptures that Jesus is AT ALL relating himself to Jonah as giving a sign about his death. Notice how in Luke the sign doesn't even mention three days and three nights.
Luke 11:29 As the crowds increased, Jesus said, “This is a wicked generation. It asks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah. 30 For as Jonah was a sign to the Ninevites, so also will the Son of Man be to this generation.
Jonah 3:1 Then the word of the Lord came to Jonah a second time: 2 “Go to the great city of Nineveh and proclaim to it the message I give you.” 3 Jonah obeyed the word of the Lord and went to Nineveh. Now Nineveh was a very important city–a visit required three days.4 On the first day, Jonah started into the city. He proclaimed: “Forty more days and Nineveh will be overturned.”
5 The Ninevites believed God. They declared a fast, and all of them, from the greatest to the least, put on sackcloth. 6 When the news reached the king of Nineveh, he rose from his throne, took off his royal robes, covered himself with sackcloth and sat down in the dust. 7 Then he issued a proclamation in Nineveh: 7 “By the decree of the king and his nobles: 8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth. Let everyone call urgently on God. Let them give up their evil ways and their violence. 9 Who knows? God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish.” 10 When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction he had threatened.
Because of Jonah's warning the people repented and God saved them.
As well here in Matthew people seem to be leaving OUT what the sign really is.
Mt 12:40 – For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so for three days and three nights the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth. 41 The people of Nineveh will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the proclamation of Jonah, and see, something greater than Jonah is here!
They repented at the proclomation of Jonah. Jesus is telling them that as the word of the Lord came to Jonah it is here with him and it is greater, and that the people need to repent.
It just seems absurd to me that the message is Jesus likening his DEATH to Jonah being in a fish, who is alive and praying and learning obedience. It just seems ridiculous to me that certain peoples are dwelling on TIME, and are conveniently overlooking the SUBSTANCE of the scriptures to try and prove their doctrine, all the while threatening people to get on the 'right path', their path or else they won't be saved when the time comes.
It seems that 'heart of the earth' is the clencher for the comparison. This does not sound like Jesus being in the grave to me. It would have been better for Jesus to liken his death to Lazarus and instead of three days and three nights have it be four days, and instead say he'd be asleep in the grave.
I think we need to seriously consider why three days and three nights isn't mentioned in Luke, as well as, the rest of the message in Matthew, and moreover what exactly did Jesus mean by 'heart of the earth'.
Quote As well here in Matthew people seem to be leaving OUT what the sign really is. Mt 12:40 – For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so for three days and three nights the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth. 41 The people of Nineveh will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the proclamation of Jonah, and see, something greater than Jonah is here!
They repented at the proclomation of Jonah. Jesus is telling them that as the word of the Lord came to Jonah it is here with him and it is greater, and that the people need to repent.
Oh yea Sure that's part of it that's the gospel!
BUT JUST AS JONAH WAS 3 DAYS AND NIGHTS. This is not a time reference?
Why was Jonah 3 day and nights and not just 3 days? Why does Jesus use Jonah who was 3 days and nights in the fish as a reference? Surely Jesus could have skipped the 3 days and nights and just said as Jonah caused repentance.What does the three days and nights prove? What was the purpose of Jonah being 3 days and Nights then Jesus using Jonah as a reference?
It is true and the RCC will tell you that they changed the commandment. If Jesus was in the tomb as Jonah was 3 days and nights then the false sabbath is proven wrong. Isn't it!
There is no scripture that says Jesus was resurrected on the first day.
BUT what matters is the keeping of God's commandments and faith in Jesus MORE THAN EVER! Rev. 14:12
In these end times this is what matters.
How is that baby?
Molly Sue I just love that name!
Bless you Jodi,
Ken
Kren Just want to tell you that I agree with you and it is so ironic, I was sitting here this morning thinking I know what I want to say, but how am I going to say it, when I had to go. I come back now and you did the work for me. Thank you. Brother. Gods Holy Spirit is at work in us.
That all shows us too how close we are to Christ's return, I think. Like you I am so ready.Peace and Love Mrs.
Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 30 2007,05:09) Quote As well here in Matthew people seem to be leaving OUT what the sign really is. Mt 12:40 – For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so for three days and three nights the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth. 41 The people of Nineveh will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the proclamation of Jonah, and see, something greater than Jonah is here!
They repented at the proclomation of Jonah. Jesus is telling them that as the word of the Lord came to Jonah it is here with him and it is greater, and that the people need to repent.
Oh yea Sure that's part of it that's the gospel!
BUT JUST AS JONAH WAS 3 DAYS AND NIGHTS. This is not a time reference?
Why was Jonah 3 day and nights and not just 3 days? Why does Jesus use Jonah who was 3 days and nights in the fish as a reference? Surely Jesus could have skipped the 3 days and nights and just said as Jonah caused repentance.What does the three days and nights prove? What was the purpose of Jonah being 3 days and Nights then Jesus using Jonah as a reference?
It is true and the RCC will tell you that they changed the commandment. If Jesus was in the tomb as Jonah was 3 days and nights then the false sabbath is proven wrong. Isn't it!
There is no scripture that says Jesus was resurrected on the first day.
BUT what matters is the keeping of God's commandments and faith in Jesus MORE THAN EVER! Rev. 14:12
In these end times this is what matters.
How is that baby?
Molly Sue I just love that name!
Bless you Jodi,
Ken
I believe that Jesus used the reference of three days three nights, because from the time of his betrayal to his death, Jesus had a similar experience that Jonah did, which was having the fear of death, learning obedience and struggling to follow God's Will over your own.I don't care about the RCC and there made up Sabbath. Even if Jesus were to be raised on Sunday, I don't see how that gives them the right to change it.
Even if the three days and three nights do not apply to how long Jesus was in the grave, that gives the RCC no right to change the Sabbath. I hope you aren't clinging to this just because you so desperately don't want the RCC to be right (Not that they would be anyway).
Yes what matters is following the commandments, and since the RCC changed the 4th, I can see why this is an issue for you. Boy are they a real piece of work. I can see they really get under your skin. They use to get undermine too, to the point that I don't think it was very healthy for me. I just let it go. I mentioned this awhile ago- I have this feeling that when Jesus returns the RCC is going to deny him just like the Jews did, mainly do to the fact they think he is God, and the Jews when he returns will finally accept him. Boy that would be ironic!
Molly Sue is great, thanks for asking. She smiles all the time now, and sleeps really good at night. Also when she cries she snorts a lot and it is really funny.
Bless you to Ken, hope you are feeling well, Jodi
Jodi
I think you are correct except I do believe that the sign is also his ressurection. This is what the Gospel is all about, or as Paul said if Christ was not risen then our faith is in vain.
So I believe he litterally was in the heart of the earth, hades as I wrote in an earlier post…
Acts 2:31
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.If his flesh did not suffer corruption, then why did he need a new body? What was that that came out of the tomb, a Spirit?
I believe his flesh didnt suffer corruption because his flesh was sinless.
Jesus, “The ressurection and the life” told his disciples that he that liveth and believeth in him would never die. Now we know their bodys died, but their Spirits went into paradise. If they didn’t spiritually die then neither did the “Eternal Spirit” Yeshua die. He simply left the flesh tent and went to Hades.
James 2:26
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.2 Cor 5:6
Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:2 Cor 5:8
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.1 Pet 3:20
By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
21 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.Did Jesus preach to the Spirits after his resurrection or before. The resurrection was his Body that died when he gave the life of his flesh on the cross and he exited his body and went to Hades as the scriptures teach.
Blessings!
Jodi
You said…
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I don't care about the RCC and there made up Sabbath. Even if Jesus were to be raised on Sunday, I don't see how that gives them the right to change it.I agree with you. Most Christians may see Sunday as a day of celebration and worship as every day should be. But I dont see where most say that Sunday is the new Sabbath.
Sunday worship is not the Christian Sabbath.
It seems because of the RCC there are so many afraid to call sunday a time of worship or gathering because of fear of what the RCC said.
The NT saints gathered together every day.
One here even calls Sunday the day of the sun-god. Well no day belongs to a sun-god.
David said…”this is the day that the Lord has made”, so all days are Gods and we should worship him everyday.
Whos cares what the RCC says.
Yeshua said “For as Jonah was three days and three nights IN THE WHALE'S BELLY; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH.”
WHERE is the “HEART OF THE EARTH”?
In Luke 16:19-24 we read…. Two men died, one a beggar named Lazarus, and the other a rich man, his name is not given. Lazarus is carried into a place called Abraham’s bosom and the other goes to . Note also that the man in Hell can see and speak with Abraham, and vice versa. Therefore, Abraham’s bosom and Hell are geographically connected—bordering each other. To locate the one we will also locate the other.
When Yeshua was crucified He was crucified with two other men. These two other men were thieves. One of the thieves REPENTED OF HIS SIN and asked Jesus to save him from his sins. Yeshua assured the repentant thief, “To day shalt thou be with me IN PARADISE.” (Lk. 23:43) Both Yeshua and this thief were going to die that very day and Yeshua said that they would be in a place called PARADISE that very day. Now, Jesus had already told his disciples that “as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH.” (Mat. 12:40)
The big point is that Yeshua was to spend three days and three nights in the heart (center) of the earth.
The Bible also teaches as it speaks to what Yeshua did between His death and resurrection…
“Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.” (Eph. 4:9-10)
Isaiah. 42:6-7 I, the LORD, have called you(Yeshua) in righteousness; I will take hold of your hand. I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles, to open eyes that are blind, TO FREE CAPTIVES FROM PRISON AND TO RELEASE FROM THE DUNGEON THOSE WHO SIT IN DARKNESS .
Christ PREACHED to the spirits of the righteous dead who lived before His time, and when He did so, He freed those, who were waiting there out and into Paradise.
1Peter3:19-21 In that state he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water..
When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He descended into hell. In Acts 2 31, ” . . . seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in HELL neither his flesh did see corruption” Yeshua Spirit was not left in hell, his body did not go under decay.
I also have to point out Hell and the Lake of Fire are different places, because hell is literally cast into the Lake of Fire:
Revelation 20:13
And the sea gave up the dead
which were in it; and death
and hell delivered up the dead
which were in them: and they
were judged every man
according to their works.Revelation 20:14
And death and hell were cast
INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. This is
the SECOND DEATH.It is strongly inferred that since the location of Paradise is in the heart of the earth, and since Hell borders Paradise, that Hell is also into the heart of the earth.
Hell was not made for man; it was “prepared for the devil and his angels.” (Mat. 25:41)
“Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming … thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.” (Isa. 14:9, 15)
Hell is beneath, and reference is made to the sides of the pit. David, speaking of his enemies, says “But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth.” (Psa. 63:9) In another place it is written, “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.” (Psa. 9:17) Again, David said, “Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them. … But thou, O God, shalt bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee.” (Psa. 55:15, 23) The geographical location of Hell is the center of the earth.
Jonah 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of Sheol(in the heart of the earth) cried I, [and] thou heardest my voice….”,
“For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”
Yeshua is drawing a comparison between the prophet and Himself. However, He is also opposing His future location (THE HEART OF THE EARTH) to that of Jonah (THE BELLY OF THE FISH). If we are to assume that Yeshua meant Sheol when he said heart of the earth.
Hell is presently in the heart of the earth. It is always referred to as down (Psalm 55:15; Isaiah 14:15; Amos 9:2). It was across a great gulf from Abraham's bosom (Luke 16:23-26). When Christ died, He went to the “heart of the earth” (Matthew 12:40) for THREE DAYS and THREE NIGHTS. In Paradise with the thief (Luke 23:43) then in the dungeon to free the captives.
Jonah 2:1 says that Jonah prayed from inside the fish. Jonah 2:2 says he called to the Lord from the depths of the grave (Sheol). This would fit the “death and resurrection” theory because he would first pray from the belly of the fish, then after death, he would pray from Sheol (Abraham's bosom). Jonah 2:6 refers to Jonah being in the earth (which happens to be the place where Sheol is) and his life being brought up from the pit. Also, even if Jonah died and went to Sheol, his body would have remained in the fish while his soul departed. His body would still show the signs of being in the fish 3 days after the resurrection.
What is also interesting is how Jonah chapter 1 represents the old testament law (go to Nineveh and preach against it ,1:2) Chapter 2 represents the death and resurrection of Christ, and chapter 3 represents the New Testament grace (go and proclaim to it the message,3:2) . Of course Yeshua was much more willing to go than Jonah!
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