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Jodi,
I know I seem mean maybe at times. I don't want to come across that way. I just know what Elohim has placed in my heart. That is that my job it to give a warning. Like my signature says:
Worship Him who mad the heavens and the earth.”Because the time is at hand!
Try and remember that even if I sound mean, I do love you all. That comes from my heart!
Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 04 2007,08:12) Jodi,
Your confusion is very understandable! It would be a good idea to draw on paper a timeline. Use one square for each day of the week. Make two weeks, two rows of 7 squares.Sunday is the 1st day of the week so write the days above the squares.
Divide all the squares in thirds, top to bottom. The center of each square represents middle of the day, the sunniest part of the day. The first section of each square is sunset to dark. The last section of each square is daylight to sunset.
Now beginning with the top row number the squares beginning at the 1st day Sunday should be the 11th day and the last day of the two weeks would be the 24th day.
Now that you have a Biblical calander you can see more clearly.
If you were to overlap the Roman calander the one we use now, it might say Wed. April 4th begins at midnight on Wed. Abib 14.
The Biblical calander according to our Creator begins the first visible sliver of the new moon. The year begins when the barly is at a certain stage of ripeness. YHWH tells us when the years begin, and when the months begin. This is the reason He created the sun and the moon. If these special days didn't matter any more, there would not be the need for the sun and the moon. He made all things so that we could glorify Him.
Thanks Laurel, but not quite necessary.My confusion has less to do with understanding YHWH's days, and more to do with people's interpretations on this forum.
Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 04 2007,08:32) Jodi,
I know I seem mean maybe at times. I don't want to come across that way. I just know what Elohim has placed in my heart. That is that my job it to give a warning. Like my signature says:
Worship Him who mad the heavens and the earth.”Because the time is at hand!
Try and remember that even if I sound mean, I do love you all. That comes from my heart!
Thanks Laurel that means a lot. Intentions are what is most important and I know that you mean well.Love to you, Jodi
Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 03 2007,21:05) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 03 2007,09:47) Hi Laurel: We are in agreement that Jesus was crucified on the 14 of Abib. However, I disagree with you on some of your interpretations which I will discuss with you, and you have not given me a scripture which shows that Jesus was resurrected on the Sabbath day. Actually, if you want to show your position relative the Sabbath, and I believe that we all here know by now that Saturday was the day that the Jews kept the Sabbath, Jesus rested in the grave both as unleavened bread on that Sabbath and on the weekly Sabbath. The Sabbath is a day of rest. He is the firstruits of those who are raised from the dead, therefore, he was raised from the dead on Sunday.
Jesus states: Matt. 26:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples, 2 Ye know that after two days is the FEAST OF THE PASSOVER, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.
Therefore, by the following scripture is meant the passover when the lambs are to be killed:
Quote Matt.26:17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread(feast of passover) the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover? 18 And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples And so Jesus, ate with his disciples that evening which was the start of the 14th after 6PM and he prayed in the garden of Gethsemane and he sumbitted himself to God our Father even in the suffering he was about to endure in our behalf, and he was betrayed by Judas and delivered into the hands of the Chief Priests and Pharisees.
On the Morning of the 14th, He was delivered to the Judgment Hall and Pilate on that morning:
Quote John 18:28 Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover. 29 Pilate then went out unto them, and said, What accusation bring ye against this man? 30 They answered and said unto him, If he were not a malefactor, we would not have delivered him up unto thee. 31 Then said Pilate unto them, Take ye him, and judge him according to your law. The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death: The following verse of the forging scripture testifies that the passover lamb had not yet been killed, and that the meal that Jesus ate with his disciples was not then the passover lamb.
Quote they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover And this makes all the gospels, the synoptics and the gospel of John, to be in agreement that this was the 14th, and Jesus died at 3PM on this day.
And we know that it was the preparation day(to prepare to observe the Sabbath) and my understanding is that the Sabbath for the the first day of unleavened bread and that the weekly Sabbath fell on the the same day. And you are saying that there was a preparation day for the Sabbath of unleavened bread and one for the weekly Sabbath.
This is where we disagree:
You say:
Quote (Abib 16 day after Unleavened Bread)
Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.You say this the 16th but you are taking this verse out of context. Let's look at it in context and see what it says:
Quote Luke 23:50 And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a good man, and a just: 51 (The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them;) he was of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the kingdom of God. 52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. 53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. 54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. 55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. 56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment. This was still on the 14th when they put Jesus in the Sepulchre, and
Quote Luke 23:55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. 56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment They went home and prepared spices, and rested on the Sabbath day the 15th, and then after the Sabbath was past on 1st day of the week Sunday when they came to anoint the body with the spices, they found that he had risen.
Quote Luke 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. 2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre. 3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. 4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments: 5 And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living F53 among the dead? 6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee You make a statement to the following scripture which I understand differently:
Quote Luk 24:18 And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days?
Luk 24:19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:
Luk 24:20 And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be
condemned to death, and have crucified him.
Luk 24:21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.
(Here it is explained that it had been three as since the guards were placed to hold watch. See the verses in Matt. On Abib 15)He was saying three days since they crucified him not since since the guards placed a watch on the tomb.
God Bless
I posted the actual dates, you are smart enough to figure out the days. Also, He was the First Fruits in Heaven! Not earth. He was ressurected on the weekly Sabbath just before dark. He went to His Father in heaven on the 1st day of the week some time after He spoke to the two Mary's at the tomb, and before He told His taught ones to “Handle Me”
No Laurel:I respect your opinion, no offense intended, but I'll have to stick with what the scripture states.
God Bless
94Bishop,
Matt. 26:17 Can not possibly be the first day of unleavened breab, because Unleavened Bread is the 15th. The lambs were slain on the 14th by the Torah.The scribes of our modern version of the Bible did not keep the Feasts! They would see first day and assume what they wrote. It contradicts all instructions according to the Torah.
The First day of Unleavened Bread and the weekly Sabbath did not fall on the same day of the week.
You will not find any verse in Scripture simply stating that Y'shua rose on the weekly Sabbath. Just as those who were there on the first day of the week, we must trust that He fulfille Passover “according to Scripture” and we know this fact because we believe His Word is Truth.
Belief. Belief. Belief.
Even the guards didn't witness it. YHWH cause sleep to fall upon them.
First Fruits was not about Him rising from the dead. There were several others like Lazerus who rose from the dead before Y'shua did. They were not the First Fruits.
When I say according to Scripture, I am refering to the same scripture Paul and the deciples refered to “THE TORAH!”
Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 04 2007,08:32) Jodi,
I know I seem mean maybe at times. I don't want to come across that way. I just know what Elohim has placed in my heart. That is that my job it to give a warning. Like my signature says:
Worship Him who mad the heavens and the earth.”Because the time is at hand!
Try and remember that even if I sound mean, I do love you all. That comes from my heart!
That goes for me too!
Please just keep the commandments of God and faith in Jesus. Rev. 14:12.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Signs and wonders? I used to think of sign and wonders as “magical” things. But in light of things happening, Like Jesus' bones being found, His marriage to Mary and having a daughter, and NOW Jesus DIDN'T come down to be the Messiah!
Are these signs and wonders that IF POSSIBLE WOULD FOOL EVEN THE “ELECT”?
If you are not “really” born again and led by the SPIRIT then are you one of the elect who won't be fooled?
May the SPIRIT strengthen us ALL!
OOPS – just realized that on my post where I gave my new understanding to the sequence of events to Jesus' resurrection does not add up correctly. Working on fixing it.
Thanks to all who have been contributing to this thread.
Love to all, Jodi
Hi Laurel:
You say:
Quote 94Bishop,
Matt. 26:17 Can not possibly be the first day of unleavened breab, because Unleavened Bread is the 15th. The lambs were slain on the 14th by the Torah.Matthew 26:17
Quote 17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover? This is referring to the 1st day of Passover which is the 14th because the following scripture indicates this:
Quote Matt. 26:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples, 2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified. But then what has that to do with Jesus being resurrected on the Sabbath. If there is no scripture to justify your claim, then you are adding to scripture. I'll stick to what the scriptures have revealed to me. What we believe relative to God's Word must be supported by scripture.
Again, I respect your opinion, and your zeal in serving the Lord, but I am satisfied that God has revealed to me what I have stated relative to these events. To be sure, I have struggled to understand this so that all the gospels are in agreement, and I believe that I have shown that they do agree.
God Bless
Hi Laurel:
You say:
Quote First Fruits was not about Him rising from the dead. There were several others like Lazerus who rose from the dead before Y'shua did. They were not the First Fruits. Lazarus was raised from the dead but he was not born again. The following scripture indicates that Jesus was the firstfruits of those raised from the dead:
Quote 1Co 15:20
But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.God Bless
Quote (942767 @ Dec. 05 2007,09:16) Hi Laurel: You say:
Quote 94Bishop,
Matt. 26:17 Can not possibly be the first day of unleavened breab, because Unleavened Bread is the 15th. The lambs were slain on the 14th by the Torah.Matthew 26:17
Quote 17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover? This is referring to the 1st day of Passover which is the 14th because the following scripture indicates this:
Quote Matt. 26:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples, 2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified. But then what has that to do with Jesus being resurrected on the Sabbath. If there is no scripture to justify your claim, then you are adding to scripture. I'll stick to what the scriptures have revealed to me. What we believe relative to God's Word must be supported by scripture.
Again, I respect your opinion, and your zeal in serving the Lord, but I am satisfied that God has revealed to me what I have stated relative to these events. To be sure, I have struggled to understand this so that all the gospels are in agreement, and I believe that I have shown that they do agree.
God Bless
94 The Passover feasts included Passover day. So when you said Passover the feasts of unleavened bread is included. And when you said the first day of unleavened bread that would be Passover day. The feasts of Passover included the feasts of unleavened bread. The days of unleavened bread are part of the Passover.Passover day was the day they slaughtered the lamb. The last supper was in the beginning of The passover day which was evening. Passover day is NOT a Sabbath, the next day the 15th was an “annual Sabbath, a HIGH day”.
Why is it that the false sabbath, which the harlot claims was the same day as the resurrection day, has bunny rabbits that lay eggs?
The forth commandment is the Seventh day the same day that God Himself kept. So if you keep HIS day you keep the Same day Jesus was resurrected. The RCC tries to claim the same but with the first day. Again we have a choice God's day or the Popes day.
Please let us keep the commandments of God and faith in Jesus, Rev. 14 :12.
God bless,
Ken
Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 05 2007,12:47) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 05 2007,09:16) Hi Laurel: You say:
Quote 94Bishop,
Matt. 26:17 Can not possibly be the first day of unleavened breab, because Unleavened Bread is the 15th. The lambs were slain on the 14th by the Torah.Matthew 26:17
Quote 17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover? This is referring to the 1st day of Passover which is the 14th because the following scripture indicates this:
Quote Matt. 26:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples, 2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified. But then what has that to do with Jesus being resurrected on the Sabbath. If there is no scripture to justify your claim, then you are adding to scripture. I'll stick to what the scriptures have revealed to me. What we believe relative to God's Word must be supported by scripture.
Again, I respect your opinion, and your zeal in serving the Lord, but I am satisfied that God has revealed to me what I have stated relative to these events. To be sure, I have struggled to understand this so that all the gospels are in agreement, and I believe that I have shown that they do agree.
God Bless
94 The Passover feasts included Passover day. So when you said Passover the feasts of unleavened bread is included. And when you said the first day of unleavened bread that would be Passover day. The feasts of Passover included the feasts of unleavened bread. The days of unleavened bread are part of the Passover.Passover day was the day they slaughtered the lamb. The last supper was in the beginning of The passover day which was evening. Passover day is NOT a Sabbath, the next day the 15th was an “annual Sabbath, a HIGH day”.
Why is it that the false sabbath, which the harlot claims was the same day as the resurrection day, has bunny rabbits that lay eggs?
The forth commandment is the Seventh day the same day that God Himself kept. So if you keep HIS day you keep the Same day Jesus was resurrected. The RCC tries to claim the same but with the first day. Again we have a choice God's day or the Popes day.
Please let us keep the commandments of God and faith in Jesus, Rev. 14 :12.
God bless,
Ken
Hi Ken:Please read what I have posted. I have given scripture to support what I believe.
If there is a scripture which shows that Jesus was resurrected on the Sabbath day, please post it otherwise the subject is closed from my perspective.
I do keep the commandments. Are you the example of how I should keep them or is Jesus? And is he the judge or are you?
Ken, you have already stated what you believe. It is not necessary to keep repeating it over and over again.
942767 It might be closed for you, but I don't understand how you can belief in a Sunday resurrection. That makes it more then 3 days and 3 nights. As far as I can see, if He died on the 14th of Nissan which was a Wednesday that year and every year for that matter. He died at 3P.M. in the afternoon, which you have right, but then counting from that day on He rose at 3 P.M. on Saturday afternoon. That makes 3 days and 3 nights, not on Sunday. You have all the dated and days right, but why do you fall short on the resurrection. I am sorry but that I can't understand. No offence.
Peace and Love Mrs.
Quote (942767 @ Dec. 05 2007,14:13) Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 05 2007,12:47) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 05 2007,09:16) Hi Laurel: You say:
Quote 94Bishop,
Matt. 26:17 Can not possibly be the first day of unleavened breab, because Unleavened Bread is the 15th. The lambs were slain on the 14th by the Torah.Matthew 26:17
Quote 17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover? This is referring to the 1st day of Passover which is the 14th because the following scripture indicates this:
Quote Matt. 26:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples, 2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified. But then what has that to do with Jesus being resurrected on the Sabbath. If there is no scripture to justify your claim, then you are adding to scripture. I'll stick to what the scriptures have revealed to me. What we believe relative to God's Word must be supported by scripture.
Again, I respect your opinion, and your zeal in serving the Lord, but I am satisfied that God has revealed to me what I have stated relative to these events. To be sure, I have struggled to understand this so that all the gospels are in agreement, and I believe that I have shown that they do agree.
God Bless
94 The Passover feasts included Passover day. So when you said Passover the feasts of unleavened bread is included. And when you said the first day of unleavened bread that would be Passover day. The feasts of Passover included the feasts of unleavened bread. The days of unleavened bread are part of the Passover.Passover day was the day they slaughtered the lamb. The last supper was in the beginning of The passover day which was evening. Passover day is NOT a Sabbath, the next day the 15th was an “annual Sabbath, a HIGH day”.
Why is it that the false sabbath, which the harlot claims was the same day as the resurrection day, has bunny rabbits that lay eggs?
The forth commandment is the Seventh day the same day that God Himself kept. So if you keep HIS day you keep the Same day Jesus was resurrected. The RCC tries to claim the same but with the first day. Again we have a choice God's day or the Popes day.
Please let us keep the commandments of God and faith in Jesus, Rev. 14 :12.
God bless,
Ken
Hi Ken:Please read what I have posted. I have given scripture to support what I believe.
If there is a scripture which shows that Jesus was resurrected on the Sabbath day, please post it otherwise the subject is closed from my perspective.
I do keep the commandments. Are you the example of how I should keep them or is Jesus? And is he the judge or are you?
Ken, you have already stated what you believe. It is not necessary to keep repeating it over and over again.
Jesus said, not Paul or any other apostle. This came from the master Himself.Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
There is no way anyone can get three days and three nights from Friday to Sunday morning.
Mar 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen, early the first day of the week he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
A simple move of the comma puts Mark agreeing with the other gospels. The tomb was found EMPTY on the first day.
Just as the move of a comma makes this scripture make sense.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee To day , shalt thou be with me in paradise.
If the commas are in the correct place then the scriptures do not agree with the rest of the bible on their subject.
Jesus said it, I believe it, I do not believe the POPE!
But remember what matters is the keeping of God's commandments and faith in Jesus.
What scripture says that Jesus was resurrected on the first day?
Quote (942767 @ Dec. 05 2007,09:16) Hi Laurel: You say:
Quote 94Bishop,
Matt. 26:17 Can not possibly be the first day of unleavened breab, because Unleavened Bread is the 15th. The lambs were slain on the 14th by the Torah.Matthew 26:17
Quote 17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover? This is referring to the 1st day of Passover which is the 14th because the following scripture indicates this:
Quote Matt. 26:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples, 2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified. But then what has that to do with Jesus being resurrected on the Sabbath. If there is no scripture to justify your claim, then you are adding to scripture. I'll stick to what the scriptures have revealed to me. What we believe relative to God's Word must be supported by scripture.
Again, I respect your opinion, and your zeal in serving the Lord, but I am satisfied that God has revealed to me what I have stated relative to these events. To be sure, I have struggled to understand this so that all the gospels are in agreement, and I believe that I have shown that they do agree.
God Bless
Hi 94Bishop,
First of all Passover only lasts one day, so there is NO 1st day of Passover.Secondly, Y'shua is our Passover “according to the Torah”. That is all the proof I need to know that He was raised on the weekly Sabbath, and His own Words are my Second wottness.
If that is not enough for you, then I say you are not letting the Spirit of Elohim do His Works in you. Please listen more carefully.
PS. 94Bishop,
You will be stuck in “Egypt or Babylon” until you see this. It is that important!Abraham left Babylon, Israel left Eqypt, we leave Rome according to Daniel's interpretation of Nebuchadnezzer's dream.
Now if Constantine would have left Greece in his day, the church would not be in such a mess today, just like Israel back in the day of Jeraboam. Our father's have inherited lies!
I pray you please read carefully and with an open mind-
Passover represents the day God freed the Israelites by the killing of the Pharaoh’s son through striking all houses except those with blood on the doors, with a curse of death to all firstborn children.
On the 14th the Israelites were to prepare for God’s wrath so that it may pass from them. In order for the curse to pass they needed to slaughter a lamb and wipe their door with blood. They were instructed to do this at the end of the 14th day.
The slaying of the lambs were in PREPERATION for the PASSOVER. The slaying of the lambs was not the actual Passover. The actual Passover, is OBVIOUSLY when God was killing innocent firstborn children, but PASSING OVER the houses that had blood.
When the lambs were slain, what happened at that time…nothing except placing blood on the doors. It was not until around midnight that the houses with blood God PASSED OVER not giving the curse, and it was that curse that brought the Israelites to freedom.
Was killing Jesus in PREPERATION FOR God freeing us from our sins? No of course not.
Indeed Jesus is referred to as being a sacrificed unblemished lamb, however that does not mean that he fulfills the Passover by representing the lambs that were killed on the 14th. Nowhere in the bible are we told such a thing. If this were true it would only make Jesus’ death the preparation for God’s Passover.
Now who here wants to admit that Jesus’ sacrifice was only for preparation for God’s work to free us from sin?
The blood of the lambs were smeared on the doors. The lambs being slain was not the act that FREED the Israelites. God killing Pharaoh’s innocent child later in the night was the act that freed them.
On the 14th the disciples PREPARED for the Passover, if Jesus is going to be the actual Passover, it is not at the time the lambs were slaughtered but at the time that God began the actual act of the PASSING OVER, which occurred around midnight on the 15th.
Jesus, to be the fulfillment of the Passover did not need to replace the lambs that were sacrificed for preparation, he needed to be the innocent firstborn child that was killed in the night early on the 15th. However, it is not solely by Jesus’ death that we are freed, but the bible is clear that it starts with his suffering.
Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the punishment that made us whole, and by his bruises we are healed.
We see in Mark that shortly after Jesus being taken into custody he is inflicted.
Mark 22:63 Now the men who were holding Jesus in custody were mocking Him and beating Him,
When Jesus began to be beaten and bruised our transgressions were being forgiven, and we were being freed. The passing over of death occurred during the night of the 15th for the Israelites, and that curse that passed over is what freed them. Our freedom from sin starts when Jesus is betrayed and is being mocked and beaten.
We are told in Matthew, Mark and Luke that Christ kept the Passover meal with his disciples. The Gospel of John tells us that the High Priests were keeping the Passover the day after.
As Jesus prepared to be the innocent firstborn to die, and the disciples prepared for their freedom from sin they fellowshipped together over the Passover meal at the beginning of the 15th. Jesus at this time instituted a new way of looking at and keeping the Passover meal. In remembrance of Jesus’ suffering and death we are to share broken bread and drink wine.
Passover is not the sacrificing of the lambs, Passover is not the meal, Passover is when God killed the Pharaoh's firstborn son, and PASSED OVER the sons in the houses with blood.
ThursDAY 14th- Disciples prepared for the Passover meal
Friday 15th -Jesus and the disciples keep the New Passover meal that Jesus institutes/ Jesus is betrayed and handed over quickly becoming sin for us and being made to suffer
FriDAY 15th- Jesus affliction continues where he is crucified, he dies and is placed in the tomb.
Saturday 16th- Jesus sleeps the sleep of death in his tomb
Sunday 17th- Jesus is resurrected as the Firstfruit from the dead, exactly three days after he began to suffer and from the time our sins were beginning to be paid for.1Co 15:20 – But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
1Co 15:23 – But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
Jesus is the firstfruits out of the dead. It would seem logical that he be raised on the day of firstfruits, the Sunday of Passover week.
If you want Old Testament fulfillment, WELL HERE IT IS!
It is amazing how people seem to put blinders on all for the literal interpretation of three days and three nights, being unable to see the true meaning of the sign. Some seem to be doing so just in order to prove the Harlot church wrong. Hate indeed can blind us from the truth.
They are completely missing the substance of Jesus as our Passover, not the slain lambs on the 14th, but the innocent firstborn on the 15th. Not three days and three nights being dead, but as Jonah who suffered, learned obedience and saved souls.
Quote (IM4Truth @ Dec. 05 2007,16:27) 942767 It might be closed for you, but I don't understand how you can belief in a Sunday resurrection. That makes it more then 3 days and 3 nights. As far as I can see, if He died on the 14th of Nissan which was a Wednesday that year and every year for that matter. He died at 3P.M. in the afternoon, which you have right, but then counting from that day on He rose at 3 P.M. on Saturday afternoon. That makes 3 days and 3 nights, not on Sunday. You have all the dated and days right, but why do you fall short on the resurrection. I am sorry but that I can't understand. No offence.
Peace and Love Mrs.
Hi Mrs. IAM4Truth:You say:
Quote . As far as I can see, if He died on the 14th of Nissan which was a Wednesday that year and every year for that matter. He And how do you arrive at this conclusion?
God Bless
Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 06 2007,08:29) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 05 2007,09:16) Hi Laurel: You say:
Quote 94Bishop,
Matt. 26:17 Can not possibly be the first day of unleavened breab, because Unleavened Bread is the 15th. The lambs were slain on the 14th by the Torah.Matthew 26:17
Quote 17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover? This is referring to the 1st day of Passover which is the 14th because the following scripture indicates this:
Quote Matt. 26:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples, 2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified. But then what has that to do with Jesus being resurrected on the Sabbath. If there is no scripture to justify your claim, then you are adding to scripture. I'll stick to what the scriptures have revealed to me. What we believe relative to God's Word must be supported by scripture.
Again, I respect your opinion, and your zeal in serving the Lord, but I am satisfied that God has revealed to me what I have stated relative to these events. To be sure, I have struggled to understand this so that all the gospels are in agreement, and I believe that I have shown that they do agree.
God Bless
Hi 94Bishop,
First of all Passover only lasts one day, so there is NO 1st day of Passover.Secondly, Y'shua is our Passover “according to the Torah”. That is all the proof I need to know that He was raised on the weekly Sabbath, and His own Words are my Second wottness.
If that is not enough for you, then I say you are not letting the Spirit of Elohim do His Works in you. Please listen more carefully.
Hi Laurel:I know that it only lasts one day, but the whole feast was sometimes was called either the feast of passover or the feast of unleavened bread.
God Bless
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