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- August 22, 2013 at 11:01 am#355890DevolutionParticipant
I have a very big prophecy…
I know Wakeup & Journey have this one too…
And what it is, is this…
No matter how much we all argue, get steamed up, strongly disagree…
No matter what…
We three sincerely hope we can get to meet all of you when Christ comes IF we are worthy.
Then we can have a laugh together and put disagreements behind us forever.
God bless.
August 23, 2013 at 1:57 am#355938DevolutionParticipantQuote (Devolution @ Aug. 22 2013,22:01) I have a very big prophecy… I know Wakeup & Journey have this one too…
And what it is, is this…
No matter how much we all argue, get steamed up, strongly disagree…
No matter what…
We three sincerely hope we can get to meet all of you when Christ comes IF we are worthy.
Then we can have a laugh together and put disagreements behind us forever.
God bless.
Hi all,Sorry if this was 'silly'.
I just felt moved in my spirit and couldn't hold it in.I have no problem if T8 or Mike decide to delete this post, maybe I shouldn't have wasted space posting this to which I apologise.
God bless.
August 24, 2013 at 6:01 am#356035WakeupParticipantQuote (Devolution @ Aug. 22 2013,22:01) I have a very big prophecy… I know Wakeup & Journey have this one too…
And what it is, is this…
No matter how much we all argue, get steamed up, strongly disagree…
No matter what…
We three sincerely hope we can get to meet all of you when Christ comes IF we are worthy.
Then we can have a laugh together and put disagreements behind us forever.
God bless.
Devolution.Sincere discussions and disagreement brings out fruits.
Its not good just to follow like sheep.
Knowledge has increased these last days.
Because the fruits of evil has come up to the surface.
and we can see it with our eyes.wakeup.
August 24, 2013 at 7:27 am#356042DevolutionParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Aug. 24 2013,17:01) Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 22 2013,22:01) I have a very big prophecy… I know Wakeup & Journey have this one too…
And what it is, is this…
No matter how much we all argue, get steamed up, strongly disagree…
No matter what…
We three sincerely hope we can get to meet all of you when Christ comes IF we are worthy.
Then we can have a laugh together and put disagreements behind us forever.
God bless.
Devolution.Sincere discussions and disagreement brings out fruits.
Its not good just to follow like sheep.
Knowledge has increased these last days.
Because the fruits of evil has come up to the surface.
and we can see it with our eyes.wakeup.
Greetings Wakeup,That is so true, and it is fruitful to let those we debate with know we really do sincerely care for their spiritual wellbeing, like I know you & Journey care, which is why we debate in the first place, which is why, as you know, a gentle answer (the intention of this post, not compromise, but gentleness) turns away wrath, and when wrath is turned away, the ears of the angry (against the messengers) might start listening instead of just reacting emotionally (defending doctrine instead of truth), and maybe, just maybe, one or two might at least consider from a calmer interaction like which you always display.
Im slowly getting there too
See you very soon W/up.
September 19, 2013 at 12:17 pm#358122ProclaimerParticipantDevolution. I would never delete a post like that. It is a good post. It deserves to be said.
September 22, 2013 at 4:32 pm#358408terrariccaParticipantQuote I have a very big prophecy… ?
there are more applause than substance why is that self recognition /self claim
September 22, 2013 at 11:50 pm#358451journey42ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 23 2013,03:32) Quote I have a very big prophecy… ?
there are more applause than substance why is that self recognition /self claim
PierreDevo must of been filled with the spirit when he wrote this post. We know he is not a prophet, but must of remembered the scriptures concerning brotherly love,
and that one day we can all come together in peace without all the disagreements?You should know the scriptures Pierre,
that we all long for peace and the spirit of unity in our Lord Jesus Christ.Is this self serving Pierre?
September 23, 2013 at 12:17 am#358456terrariccaParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Sep. 23 2013,05:50) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 23 2013,03:32) Quote I have a very big prophecy… ?
there are more applause than substance why is that self recognition /self claim
PierreDevo must of been filled with the spirit when he wrote this post. We know he is not a prophet, but must of remembered the scriptures concerning brotherly love,
and that one day we can all come together in peace without all the disagreements?You should know the scriptures Pierre,
that we all long for peace and the spirit of unity in our Lord Jesus Christ.Is this self serving Pierre?
J42LET say that i just look at what is written and did not find anything of substance ,but many congratulation and support to nothing ;
this remind me when i went to a 7 day adventist meeting ,years ago,and they told me many stories and act in a questionable way ,and show that scriptures really do not support those things ,they are merely to impress people,
just like WJ told me a few years ago that he ad the holy spirit ,what i never believed that he ad ,but he like it ,so he claim it .so i do not know what spirit got in to devo if any ?
i always keep the peace ,but not silence ,
September 23, 2013 at 1:10 am#358462journey42ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 23 2013,11:17) Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 23 2013,05:50) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 23 2013,03:32) Quote I have a very big prophecy… ?
there are more applause than substance why is that self recognition /self claim
PierreDevo must of been filled with the spirit when he wrote this post. We know he is not a prophet, but must of remembered the scriptures concerning brotherly love,
and that one day we can all come together in peace without all the disagreements?You should know the scriptures Pierre,
that we all long for peace and the spirit of unity in our Lord Jesus Christ.Is this self serving Pierre?
J42LET say that i just look at what is written and did not find anything of substance ,but many congratulation and support to nothing ;
this remind me when i went to a 7 day adventist meeting ,years ago,and they told me many stories and act in a questionable way ,and show that scriptures really do not support those things ,they are merely to impress people,
just like WJ told me a few years ago that he ad the holy spirit ,what i never believed that he ad ,but he like it ,so he claim it .so i do not know what spirit got in to devo if any ?
i always keep the peace ,but not silence ,
Pierre,We all learn from experience. We are told to desire the spirit of love, that this is the best gift one can have.
If that spirit of love stirs us up then we will want to comfort others. If you got nothing out of it, then so be it.I'm going to tell you something that is not written in the bible.
Our uncle died yesterday and lost his 6 month battle with cancer. (only found out 6 months ago, but had it unknowingly for 20 years)
Devo worked for our uncle last year and they often got into debates over the scriptures. Our uncle disagreed with the creation side of things and trusted more in science. He would always bring subjects up, and watch documentaries that supported his view. So always arguing, back and forth and stubborn, but nevertherless, stirred up continually. Devo did an excellent job in supporting the scriptures and creation, and explaining that the earth is not as old as they tell us. The faults with carbon dating, and the lies they use etc.So in all this arguing and debating, my uncle did not get to the simple basic scriptures regarding forgiveness of sins.
When diagnosed with cancer a short time ago, my uncle called out to Devo, myself, & wakeup (who he has not seen in a long while)
Devo and myself went to visit him in hospital. My uncle told us that he has given his life to the Lord. He said he realised he had done some things wrong in his life, and that's why nothing went right for him. We read some powerful scriptures to him, and it warmed his heart. He did not die with full knowledge of the scriptures but in the short time he had, he changed things in his life and made them right. We are comforted to know that it was God stirring our uncle up the whole time. Even through his unbelief, God drew him closer and closer to him…through every argument, every debate, every question. He wanted his sins forgiven, and he asked for it. His heart was so sincere. We saw a complete changed man. He came in at the final hour, whereas, we've laboured nearly all our life, but the promise is that he will get the same reward and it's not too late to change.So why did he call out to us?
I'll tell you why.
Because he realised that he was wrong about a lot of his views and that we were sent to to stir up his spirit.
He died in peace, and although he did not know the Lord for very long, he had the gift of love without even knowing it. I never met anyone more kinder and giving than him. He would put most christians to shame in that department.Every word we speak goes to the grave with us. He made his peace with everyone, and died with this peace. This peace comes from God.
In the end, love prevailed. Without it, we cannot enter the gates of heaven.Not even the archangel Michael made a railing accusation against Satan, when disputing over the body of Moses. We should learn from this. An angel with high authority who sees everything, and who knows God personally and sees what the devil does, even dares not make any accusations against him. It's only God that sees inside the hearts.
We should keep this in mind.September 23, 2013 at 2:20 am#358469terrariccaParticipantQuote Not even the archangel Michael made a railing accusation against Satan, when disputing over the body of Moses. We should learn from this. An angel with high authority who sees everything, and who knows God personally and sees what the devil does, even dares not make any accusations against him. It's only God that sees inside the hearts.
We should keep this in mind.SO WHAT YOU REALLY SAYING IS THAT IT NOT MATTER THAN OTHER TELL ,FALSE /TWIST THE TRUTH ;WE JUST HAVE TO LET THEM DO IT AND SAY NOTHING ,LET GOD DO IT ? IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME IT SOUND LIKE IT ,
IF THIS IS TRUE ;THEN I MAY RETURN TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ,WHY CHANGE AND SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH OF GOD
I AM NOT AFRAID OF MY WORDS THAT COMES OUT OF MY MOUTH ,I KNOW THEY ARE RAW ,BUT IF THEY ARE NOT TRUE TELL ME ,
I AM NOW IN MY FINAL STRETCH OF LIFE ,I HAVE ALMOST LOST ALL MY ENERGY ,BUT GOD AS MADE THAT I DO NOT FEAR DEAD AT ALL BUT FEEL CONFIDENT TO SEE IT ,SO I DO NOT KNOW YET ALONG THEIRS IS FOR ME TO GO ,
BUT I AM NOT WORRY FOR IT ; I HAVE CLEAN UP MY HOUSE ,
September 23, 2013 at 11:23 am#358487journey42Participantterraricca,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Quote SO WHAT YOU REALLY SAYING IS THAT IT NOT MATTER THAN OTHER TELL ,FALSE /TWIST THE TRUTH ;WE JUST HAVE TO LET THEM DO IT AND SAY NOTHING ,LET GOD DO IT ? IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME IT SOUND LIKE IT ,
I am saying nothing like that. Do you think we think of ourselves as false witnesses?
Do you think what I am saying is about us?
My uncle died last night.
In the last 6 months of his life, he truly changed.
He died a peaceful man,
not an angry man.Quote IF THIS IS TRUE ;THEN I MAY RETURN TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ,WHY CHANGE AND SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH OF GOD
What nonsense are you speaking right now?
If what is true?
That Devo hopes that we can all meet each other when the Lord comes, and put all this quarrelling behind us?
In my view, he already has brotherly love in his heart.Quote I AM NOT AFRAID OF MY WORDS THAT COMES OUT OF MY MOUTH ,I KNOW THEY ARE RAW ,BUT IF THEY ARE NOT TRUE TELL ME ,
Well that is obvious, you speak your mind, but if only you knew how you sound. You sound very angry, and arguing with everyone on this site. You argue against everything, everyone, anyone. You are even arguing against scripture.
I don't know if it's your medication, but you are fighting against the wrong people.Quote I AM NOW IN MY FINAL STRETCH OF LIFE ,I HAVE ALMOST LOST ALL MY ENERGY ,BUT GOD AS MADE THAT I DO NOT FEAR DEAD AT ALL BUT FEEL CONFIDENT TO SEE IT ,SO I DO NOT KNOW YET ALONG THEIRS IS FOR ME TO GO ,
We should treat everyday like it's our last. All of us, for we don't know what will happen tomorrow. None of us want to die angry.Quote BUT I AM NOT WORRY FOR IT ; I HAVE CLEAN UP MY HOUSE ,
Lets see. So far, just anger and accusations.
All the scriptures and explanations have been given to you over the years. If we decide to all leave this site, it would be very quiet here, and you would have not many to argue with.
Wakeup is doing an excellent job.
He has brought up many subjects, and talked with many people using the scriptures, and logic.
You could of learn't so much from him, for he shares his knowledge and doesn't keep it all to himself.
Instead you have accused him of lying and using deceit constantly without providing any proof.
You accuse him of following men, and worldy teachings and anyone that agrees with him are all decievers no matter what they say.
You were nice to him at one point, then turned against him.
This is so sad Pierre.
That you think you are the only one with the truth and full understanding.
So, you are not forced to agree with anyone, but provide your reasons why they are wrong, but do it with brotherly love, not accusations, and if you are corrected, then humbly accept it if you love the truth.
Because if you are wrong then you have attacked the messenger. The same messenger who follows the same God, worships the same Christ, and has fed on his flesh.Wakeup was sent to you also.
We can all learn from him how he answers, and how to touch on all subjects and what scriptures to use to back the truth.
Because he has knowledge and teaching us to also use this knowledge provided by God you have hated him.
Because you do not understand certain things or scriptures,
this does not make him a liar,
but the problem lies with you.
Open your eyes brother.September 23, 2013 at 2:42 pm#358489WakeupParticipantHi Journey.
Here are some scriptures for you.
Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them **which are asleep**, **that ye sorrow not**,
** even as others which have no hope**.1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again,
even so **them also which sleep in Jesus**
**will God bring with him**wakeup.
September 23, 2013 at 3:58 pm#358497terrariccaParticipantQuote Well that is obvious, you speak your mind, but if only you knew how you sound. You sound very angry, and arguing with everyone on this site. You argue against everything, everyone, anyone. You are even arguing against scripture.
I don't know if it's your medication, but you are fighting against the wrong people.i am not angry at all ,i write the way it comes to me and see what is said ;
now you say that i argue AGAINST THE SCRIPTURES THIS PLEASE SHOW ME ;
Quote Instead you have accused him of lying and using deceit constantly without providing any proof. I HAVE EXPLAIN IT ,BUT HE DOES NOT LISTEN OR ACCEPTED IT ,SO YOU TO SUPPORT HIM ,
READ ALL THE CONVERSATION NOT ONLY A PART OF IT ,THE DECEIT LAYS IN THE “TRIBULATION ” AND THE SCRIPTURES USE TO TRY TO PROVE YOUR WAY TO IT ,BUT STEP BACK AND LOOK WHAT REALLY YOU ARE DOING IS ;GETTING A BUNCH OF SCRIPTURES THAT “YOU GUY'S FIGURE SHOULD WORK TO BRING DOWN THE GREAT TRIBULATION FROM THE KJV WHAT YOU GUY'S HAVE CHANGED TO BE THE WORD OF GOD ;IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING HERE ; I SEE THE KJV AS ANOTHER VERSION OF GOD'S WRITTEN WORD AMONG OTHERS ;
MANY DO NOT HAVE “TRIBULATION ” AND YOU ALSO PRESENT IT AS SOMETHING TO BE SAVED FROM YOU ALSO TELL ME THAT 70 AD AS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT ;BUT YOU ARE QUOTING SCRIPTURES FROM A PERIOD WAY PRIOR TO THAT TIME ;AND WITHOUT RESERVES ,AND DECLARE YOUR VIEWS TO BE TRUE ;AND MAKE IT LIKE YOU GUY'S HAVE NEW VISIONS ;THIS MAKE MY HAIR GO STRAY UP ON MY HEAD ;NOT BECAUSE I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ;BUT BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING AND CALL TO BE TRUE IS IN FACT NOT TRUE AT ALL ,
IF YOU ARE SO TRUE IN WHAT YOU SAY WHY DO I NOT RECEIVE THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTION THE FACT YOU DENY THE QUESTION IS NOT AN ANSWER THAT STANDS ;
REMEMBER THE “TRUTH” STANDS ON HIS OWN GROUND AND DOES NOT NEED PROTECTION BUT LIES DO NEED PROTECTION AND SUPPORT ,AND SO IS DECEIT ;
Quote Wakeup was sent to you also.
We can all learn from him how he answers, and how to touch on all subjects and what scriptures to use to back the truth.
Because he has knowledge and teaching us to also use this knowledge provided by God you have hated him.
Because you do not understand certain things or scriptures,
this does not make him a liar,
but the problem lies with you.
Open your eyes brother.THIS IS SELF INDULGENCE ;SELF GLORIFICATION OF MAN,WAKEUP HAS SOME KNOWLEDGE BUT IS FAR FROM WHAT I CAME TO KNOW IN SCRIPTURES ,BUT I AM TIRED TO SEE THAT YOU WIPE THE TRUTH IN SCRIPTURES UNDER THE CARPET SO TO SPEAK AND BRING FORTH YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION AS TRUTH ; MAY BE JUST WAIT UNTIL I AM GONE THEN I WILL NO LONGER STAND AND FACE YOU IN YOUR DECEIT ;
TO ME WHAT IS NOT TRUE IN SCRIPTURES IS A LIE TO THE SCRIPTURES ,I DON'T CARE WHO IS THE PROVIDER OF THE LIES ,
AND AGAIN I AM NEVER ANGRY JUST DIRECT AND RAW ;BUT TRUE WITH THE TRUTH OF GOD ;
YOU CLAIM THAT “WAKEUP “IS SEND TO ME ARE YOU SERIOUS IF YOU WOULD KNOW HOW MANY HAVE SAID THAT TO ME OVER THE 54 YEARS I HAVE STUDY THE SCRIPTURES ITS A JOKE ; EVERY SINGLE “JW” “MORMON” BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN EVANGELIST” WILL TELL YOU THE SAME THING ;AND BY SAYING THIS “YOU HAVE REMOVED THE POWER OF GOD'S SPIRIT FROM HIS WRITTEN WORD,AND CLAIM IT FOR YOUR PERSONAL GAINS ;THIS IS AN ABOMINATION ;
SO NO THE PROBLEM RESIDES WITH YOU GUY'S NOT WITH ME ;I DO NOT PRETEND TO HOLD ANYTHING ;THE ONLY CLAIM THAT I MAKE IS MY KNOWLEDGE IN SCRIPTURES ;AND THAT IS WHAT I USE TO HOLD AND FACE YOU;
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