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Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,17:00) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 28 2010,13:01) Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,11:09) Jhn 10:16 “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd. Mat 2:6 'AND YOU, BETHLEHEM, LAND OF JUDAH, ARE BY NO MEANS LEAST AMONG THE LEADERS OF JUDAH; FOR OUT OF YOU SHALL COME FORTH A RULER WHO WILL SHEPHERD MY PEOPLE ISRAEL.'”
Jhn 10:11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
Mat 26:31 Then Jesus said to them, “You will all fall away because of Me this night, for it is written, 'I WILL STRIKE DOWN THE SHEPHERD, AND THE SHEEP OF THE FLOCK SHALL BE SCATTERED.'
Jesus = shepherd and is not God
DBFi personally i would never bring this question to the light of day,
Christ is and can not be God.why people go there beats me.
Pierre
Pierre,I think that Satan is the author of this lie.
He told Eve that if she ate of the fruit that she, too, could be like God.
When she followed Satan death entered into the Cosmos and all of the Universe became affected and infected. Man lost his body and it returned to dust from whence it came.
IF Satan can get the people to follow a false god; Jesus, God, the Son THEN he will get your soul (eternal spirit) to follow him into the lake of fire. Misery loves company.
Just as the Muslims' god is not the same God of the Bible; neither is the “Jesus God” the same Jesus (the son OF God) in the Bible.
Does it really matter? I can't be the judge of that, but I am not willing to risk my eternal soul in hell to make Jesus to be God, when I can read thousands of time where he is not.
Also, I have asked a few times now, “Where in the Bible has JESUS said that he was GOD?” (and only Jesus speaking).
Somebody posted this thread: “This is why jesus christ is god” yet, I haven't seen any proof.
Why can't we get it straight from the “horses mouth”?
The Professor
DBFdo you start to understand why it is almost impossible to have a good conversation and explore truth for enlightenment ,
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2010,21:56) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 28 2010,02:01) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2010,06:58) SF yes everyone as a spirit but not always with the truth in mind,Mt 5:3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Mt 5:5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Mt 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Mt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Mt 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Mt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Mt 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Mt 5:12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.everyone in the verses above has done something and Jesus show them the reward.
there is nothing free in this world and there will be nothing free in the next one.
you say loving God and Christ if so read the scriptures grave them in your heart so that they are the only thing in it ,and you be full of God word, and so God with his spirit will give you the understanding and so make a fruit of light out of you.
this way you will say the truth and know that's the truth.
Pierre
Terra,
The point about All scriptures is to Love God.
To KNOW GOD.But scriptures state this:
That Jesus said on to moses do you love me?
Lord only you know,
Than FEED my sheep.IF you love Christ, than FEED his sheep.
Love one another.
put this in your heart.
1john4:11Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another
and 21And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also
SFBut scriptures state this:
That Jesus said on to moses do you love me?
Lord only you know,
Than FEED my sheep.IF you love Christ, than FEED his sheep.
THIS IS SAID TO PETER NOT TO MOSES.
Pierre
DUH!It was a mistake, the point is that i wanted you to know what i meant.
of course i meant Peter.
I wanted you to understand my point
dont get cockyQuote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 29 2010,23:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2010,21:56) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 28 2010,02:01) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2010,06:58) SF yes everyone as a spirit but not always with the truth in mind,Mt 5:3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Mt 5:5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Mt 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Mt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Mt 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Mt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Mt 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Mt 5:12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.everyone in the verses above has done something and Jesus show them the reward.
there is nothing free in this world and there will be nothing free in the next one.
you say loving God and Christ if so read the scriptures grave them in your heart so that they are the only thing in it ,and you be full of God word, and so God with his spirit will give you the understanding and so make a fruit of light out of you.
this way you will say the truth and know that's the truth.
Pierre
Terra,
The point about All scriptures is to Love God.
To KNOW GOD.But scriptures state this:
That Jesus said on to moses do you love me?
Lord only you know,
Than FEED my sheep.IF you love Christ, than FEED his sheep.
Love one another.
put this in your heart.
1john4:11Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another
and 21And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also
SFBut scriptures state this:
That Jesus said on to moses do you love me?
Lord only you know,
Than FEED my sheep.IF you love Christ, than FEED his sheep.
THIS IS SAID TO PETER NOT TO MOSES.
Pierre
DUH!It was a mistake, the point is that i wanted you to know what i meant.
of course i meant Peter.
I wanted you to understand my point
dont get cocky
SFdo not take offence i am not bad intent,
it is true that all of us here are not truthful in the word of God ,this can be seen with a naked eye,and a little knowledge.
it is the word of God who changes your knowledge in you,and when you make the changes by applying that truth ,then it is the spirit of God to help you to discern what is good for you,and make you understand his word.
this spirit is accessible to all providing they follow the word of God,and recieve the grace of God.
it is not by leading others in personal opinions away from the word of God.
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2010,01:40) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 29 2010,23:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2010,21:56) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 28 2010,02:01) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2010,06:58) SF yes everyone as a spirit but not always with the truth in mind,Mt 5:3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Mt 5:5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Mt 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Mt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Mt 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Mt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Mt 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Mt 5:12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.everyone in the verses above has done something and Jesus show them the reward.
there is nothing free in this world and there will be nothing free in the next one.
you say loving God and Christ if so read the scriptures grave them in your heart so that they are the only thing in it ,and you be full of God word, and so God with his spirit will give you the understanding and so make a fruit of light out of you.
this way you will say the truth and know that's the truth.
Pierre
Terra,
The point about All scriptures is to Love God.
To KNOW GOD.But scriptures state this:
That Jesus said on to moses do you love me?
Lord only you know,
Than FEED my sheep.IF you love Christ, than FEED his sheep.
Love one another.
put this in your heart.
1john4:11Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another
and 21And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also
SFBut scriptures state this:
That Jesus said on to moses do you love me?
Lord only you know,
Than FEED my sheep.IF you love Christ, than FEED his sheep.
THIS IS SAID TO PETER NOT TO MOSES.
Pierre
DUH!It was a mistake, the point is that i wanted you to know what i meant.
of course i meant Peter.
I wanted you to understand my point
dont get cocky
SFdo not take offence i am not bad intent,
it is true that all of us here are not truthful in the word of God ,this can be seen with a naked eye,and a little knowledge.
it is the word of God who changes your knowledge in you,and when you make the changes by applying that truth ,then it is the spirit of God to help you to discern what is good for you,and make you understand his word.
this spirit is accessible to all providing they follow the word of God,and recieve the grace of God.
it is not by leading others in personal opinions away from the word of God.
Pierre
dont worry about it,but how do you know the personal opinions are wrong if you dont listen.
The Spirit will tell you whats false after you have listened to what is said.
Trust me when i say if you UNDERSTOOD what rokkaman was saying, than you would probably not say that he is false.
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