This is what Jews believe

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,15:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 21 2011,06:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,12:38) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 20 2011,21:48) Hi BD, Trying to disprove the bible's message with the bible is fruitless; can you truly not see the error in this way of thinking? Your friend, Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org ED, I am not trying to disprove the bibles message I am clarifying it, You and those who are Jewish are reading the same words up to the NT which means nothing to them your religion is newer theirs is much much older they have studied these scriptures, recited these scriptures and sung these scriptures for thousands of years and they were “Chosen” to do this so maybe there is a bigger story here that you are missing bod yes we reading the same book ,BUT NOT WITH THE SAME INTENTIONS, JUST LIKE YOU READ IT ;BOD; YOU READ IT TO FIND SOMETHING YOU CAN BE USING TO UPLIFT YOUR ISLAM AND KORAN DOGMA SO YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND MORE OF ANYTHING , AND SO IT IS WITH ANY MEN JEWS OR NOT,HOW COULD YOU UNDERSTAND SOMETHING YOU DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE TELL ME Pierre Your argument is flawed because I do believe it's just I believe in something greater than you. Jews don't believe they killed their long awaited Messiah if they had no salvation would be had for the Jews but Islam is saying they didn't kill the Messiah and Christians believe that the killing of the Messiah was for their salvation and because of that they believe in God 1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. These people have gained faith that they didn't have, faith in God which is Salvation. Luke 14:27 Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple. Don't you believe that Jesus beared that cross for you?

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Luke 14:27 Whoever does not bear his own cross

this means that all of have to carry our own cross ,if we want to be saved ,

IT DOES NOT SAY THAT CHRIST DID IT FOR US ,

YOU SEE YOU CAN NOT EVEN SEE WHAT IT SAYS BECAUSE OF YOUR BIAS VIEWS ,

YOU DO NOT HAVE A GREATER VIEW ;YOU DO NOT HAVE A VIEW AT ALL;

YOU TRY TO MIXED THE KORAN AND THE BIBLE INTO ONE AND CALL BOTH SIDES IGNORANT BECAUSE YOU MADE A NEW RELIGION HOPING PEOPLE WOULD RUN TO YOU FOR MORE OF THAT CRAP,EGO AND GREED ,

[bodhitharta]

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The Jews missed their messiah and this gave opportunity for the gentiles. Both Jews and Muslims do not recognise who Jesus was. They both recognise Jesus, but not as the son of God and the messiah that died for the sins of mankind.

T8

That is incorrect Muslims all must believe that Jesus is the promised Messiah of Israel no religious practicing Jew believes this they give Jesus no credence whatsoever.

And you keep saying Jesus died for all mankind but what does the bible say about you and your belief?

Romans 10:19
But I ask, did Israel not understand? First Moses says, “I will make you jealous of those who are not a nation; with a foolish nation I will make you angry.”

Deuteronomy 32:21
They have made me jealous with what is no god; they have provoked me to anger with their idols.So I will make them jealous with those who are no people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

Now Christians drive Jews crazy with all their Jesus is God and trinity talk they know that Christians by and large have foolish theology and it really does anger them

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2011,09:37)

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,04:48) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2011,16:38) A muslim trying to play judaism off against christianity. Classic.  These Abrahamists are crazy. Keep going!  Very entertaining. Stuart Not , quite I am actually demonstrating how people who believe in the same God can have very different viewpoints and yet many or most Christians are pro-Judaism but anti-Muslim but the Muslim is Pro Christ and The Jews are anti Jesus Christ. The Jews missed their messiah and this gave opportunity for the gentiles. Both Jews and Muslims do not recognise who Jesus was. They both recognise Jesus, but not as the son of God and the messiah that died for the sins of mankind. Perhaps they didn't believe in scapegoating using a human as the sacrifice. The Jews prefered to pile the sins into an actual goat then drive it off a cliff. In islam there is no such scapegoating, the unrepentant just have to wait for “a painful doom”. Cheerful stuff this fascist totalitarian Bronze Age brutality! Stuart

So it is your belief that one should do whatever one feels for their is no judgement?

[Stu]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,11:02)

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2011,09:37) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,04:48) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2011,16:38) A muslim trying to play judaism off against christianity. Classic.  These Abrahamists are crazy. Keep going!  Very entertaining. Stuart Not , quite I am actually demonstrating how people who believe in the same God can have very different viewpoints and yet many or most Christians are pro-Judaism but anti-Muslim but the Muslim is Pro Christ and The Jews are anti Jesus Christ. The Jews missed their messiah and this gave opportunity for the gentiles. Both Jews and Muslims do not recognise who Jesus was. They both recognise Jesus, but not as the son of God and the messiah that died for the sins of mankind. Perhaps they didn't believe in scapegoating using a human as the sacrifice. The Jews prefered to pile the sins into an actual goat then drive it off a cliff. In islam there is no such scapegoating, the unrepentant just have to wait for “a painful doom”. Cheerful stuff this fascist totalitarian Bronze Age brutality! Stuart So it is your belief that one should do whatever one feels for their is no judgement?

No.

Stuart

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