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- April 7, 2015 at 5:41 pm#793142bodhithartaParticipant
Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #110)
April 7, 2015 at 6:03 pm#793146NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Is it not petty and competitive?
God is bigger than your religion
April 7, 2015 at 6:14 pm#793147NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
The hatred is imbued in the words.
We are of a God of love.
April 7, 2015 at 9:27 pm#793154Ed JParticipantThey say: “Allah hath begotten a son”: glory be to him.-Nay, to him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: everything renders worship to him.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #116)
Hi BD,
The God of the Christians and Jews: YHVH has a son.
Your god then is a different god from our God YHVH.
Muhammad is the false prophet of Revelation 13:13B’shem
YHVHApril 8, 2015 at 1:40 am#793166bodhithartaParticipantHi BD,
The God of the Christians and Jews: YHVH has a son.
Your god then is a different god from our God YHVH.
Muhammad is the false prophet of Revelation 13:13Why don’t the Jews no that YHVH has a son? God didn’t tell them? By the way, did God’s son say his name in the NT or when he was on the cross? Did Abraham use the name? The name is God’s name but it isn’t the only known name and it wasn’t what Isaac, Jacob, Abraham, Adam or Noah were taught. The Jews were specifically given that name
April 8, 2015 at 1:43 am#793168bodhithartaParticipantThis is what Jews believe:
IN SHORT… Jews do not believe in a trinity. The Jewish idea of Gd is that Gd is One and Indivisible. Gd cannot be divided up into separate parts, where each part is unequal to each of the other parts, yet somehow they are one and the same. The Hebrew Scriptures describe Gd as an absolute One, but the Christian Scriptures describe Gd as divisible into three parts called a trinity. In the Christians’ scriptures, Jesus at one point claims to have different knowledge than other parts of the Christian trinity. For example, Matthew 24:36, or Mark 13:32. In another verse, Jesus does not have the same power as other parts of the Christian trinity, for example, Luke 23:34. And in Matthew 26:42, Jesus’ will is not the same as the will of the Father. Indeed, Jesus often contrasted himself with the Father, for example, in John 14:28, or Luke 18:19. Furthermore, Jesus supposedly said that the punishment for blaspheming against one part of the trinity is not the same punishment for blaspheming against another part of the trinity. In the Hebrew Scriptures, however, Gd is One, as we read in Deuteronomy 6:4, as well as in Isaiah 44:6, where Gd tells us, ‘I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no Gd.’ When Isaiah tells us that Gd said, ‘I am the first,’ it means that Gd has no father. When Isaiah tells us that Gd said, ‘I am the last,’ it means that Gd has no literal son, a divine piece of Gd. And when Isaiah tells us that Gd said, ‘Besides me there is no Gd,’ it means that Gd does not share being Gd with any other Gd, or demi-Gd, or semi-Gd, or persons, and there is no trinity.
April 8, 2015 at 1:57 am#793170bodhithartaParticipantNo blood required for forgiveness here is proof:
Leviticus 5:11-13
Leviticus 5:11-13American Standard Version (ASV)
11 But if his means suffice not for two turtle-doves, or two young pigeons, then he shall bring his oblation for that wherein he hath sinned, the tenth part of an ephah of fine flour for a sin-offering: he shall put no oil upon it, neither shall he put any frankincense thereon; for it is a sin-offering.
12 And he shall bring it to the priest, and the priest shall take his handful of it as the memorial thereof, and burn it on the altar, upon the offerings of Jehovah made by fire: it is a sin-offering.
13 And the priest shall make atonement for him as touching his sin that he hath sinned in any of these things, and he shall be forgiven: and the remnant shall be the priest’s, as the meal-offering.
CASE CLOSED.
April 8, 2015 at 6:52 am#793182NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Before Jesus came God provided for forgiveness.
Now Jesus, the lamb of God, has paid the ultimate price it is unwise for anyone to ignore the offer God makes.
Repent and be baptised for the forgiveness of sins.
April 8, 2015 at 9:34 am#793224bodhithartaParticipantNo Blood required for sin to be taken away no ultimate price
Isaiah 6:6-7American Standard Version (ASV)
6 Then flew one of the seraphim unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
7 and he touched my mouth with it, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin forgiven.
GOD IS IMMENSE, isn’t rather small to think of God creating the human being and leaving him with no means of salvation until almost the entire history of man has passed, No NICK. GOD has always provided a way ALWAYS and HE ALWAYS will. You believe in the Jesus experience and that is awesome too but when you get that FULL GOD EXPERIENCE you will break out of that nut shell. Jesus is right God is greater than he but some just don’t understand
April 8, 2015 at 9:42 am#793226NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Still trying to make a special way for yourself?
Stumbling over the stumbling stone and making a mess.
April 8, 2015 at 10:18 am#793227NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
The sovereign choice of God to forgive remains His choice.
Did you think it means He is not serious that men should go through His Son?
April 8, 2015 at 10:22 am#793228NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Rubbish,
The Word of God does not teach a divisible God.
You put lies up as your evidence?
April 8, 2015 at 10:38 am#793229bodhithartaParticipantI didn’t say God was divisible , where did you get that idea?
Hi BD,
The sovereign choice of God to forgive remains His choice.
Exactly His Soveriegn choice that’s what I have been saying the entire time ALL these years
did you think it means He is not serious that men should go through His Son?
Of course it’s serious if it wasn’t he wouldn’t have sent him and those who truly follow him will have their reward.
But all Believers follow all of the messengers because they are all under the guidance of God so whomever God sends whether they be Major or Minor those with ears will hear, it simply takes working it out and putting your desire on God and not on “being right”.April 8, 2015 at 10:43 am#793230NickHassanParticipantHi BD.
Your statement
“The Hebrew Scriptures describe Gd as an absolute One, but the Christian Scriptures describe Gd as divisible into three parts called a trinity”
So you make yourself able to judge all the messengers of God, and try to find a special way for yourself.
But the mercy of God is specified.
April 8, 2015 at 10:46 am#793231NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
You offer the confusion of Babylon.
Choose a leader for yourself apparently.
No you make yourself your own god
April 8, 2015 at 12:19 pm#793236bodhithartaParticipantYour statement
“The Hebrew Scriptures describe Gd as an absolute One, but the Christian Scriptures describe Gd as divisible into three parts called a trinity”
So you make yourself able to judge all the messengers of God, and try to find a special way for yourself.
But the mercy of God is specified.
I said that what the Jews believe and we do know that MOST Christians are trinitarians, I think you should be commended for searching for the truth and getting pass all the Catholic and Protestant teachings
April 8, 2015 at 1:40 pm#793240kerwinParticipantNick,
Repent and be baptised for the forgiveness of sins.
Repent and be immersed for the forgiveness of sins is John the Baptist’s message.
The message of the new covenant is “repent and be immersed in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”
April 8, 2015 at 1:58 pm#793245NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Ask and you will receive.
April 8, 2015 at 2:00 pm#793246NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Should you be commended for your rejection of the Son of God?
April 9, 2015 at 9:38 am#793371bodhithartaParticipantGod Has no Son, Jesus is God’s Christ and His faithful servant.
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