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- May 11, 2014 at 4:19 am#381666WakeupParticipant
The physical death is when the body gave up the ghost.
The spirit of life is taken away.
The breath of life has gone back the whom gave it.
The flesh returned to dust.But this is *NOT* the final death;because there is a resurrection;for all flesh to be judged by the books of deeds.
This is at the second resurrection.
The souls that are rejected, will be put to death once more
cast in the lake of fire. This is final.The spiritually dead are they that have not known God,
because of no interest,or some other reason.
They are them that lived and yet are dead.The living dead.
The spirit of everlasting life dwelleth not in them.
They live for the flesh;they are the worldly.Them that love the delicate gifts that the world can offer,and the desires of the flesh they obey. Slaves of the lust of the flesh.These can be good people but made drunk by the harlot; and tempted by satan and his angels and demons continuesly, and have no way to resist.
These have still a chance in the second resurrection.The spiritually dead, and are wicked at heart, will have no chance forever.They will burn in the lake of fire with their father satan; and his angels.And where the false prophet
and the beast are.They will be folded up like thorns and burned.
wakeup.
May 11, 2014 at 5:00 am#381671NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Spiritually dead?
Is that in scripture?The best placed to find salvation are those who who know they are sinners and are desperate for a remedy.
May 11, 2014 at 9:29 am#381694WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2014,16:00) Hi WU,
Spiritually dead?
Is that in scripture?The best placed to find salvation are those who who know they are sinners and are desperate for a remedy.
Nick.What do you think Jesuswas talking about when Hw said.
Let the dead bury their dead.
Luke 9:60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
wakeup.
May 13, 2014 at 6:59 pm#382043NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Let those destined for the second death bury others of their ilk.
There are more important matters to attend to.
Many are still unsaved-preach.May 13, 2014 at 8:26 pm#382054WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2014,05:59) Hi WU,
Let those destined for the second death bury others of their ilk.
There are more important matters to attend to.
Many are still unsaved-preach.
Nick.I say that naked christians are spiritually dead also.
wakeup.
May 13, 2014 at 8:28 pm#382056NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Yes YOU say that.
Does scripture?.Romans 8:10
If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness.May 20, 2014 at 3:43 am#383088NickHassanParticipantHi,
Ps 104
28 That thou givest them they gather: thou openest thine hand, they are filled with good.29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.
May 20, 2014 at 4:15 am#383090NickHassanParticipantHi,
Ps 23
23 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.
The wolves try to startle the sheep but the shepherd is on guard
May 20, 2014 at 8:41 am#383102WakeupParticipantAll in the land of the catholics are dead spritually.
And the other religions also.
*Without Christ mercy*; all of them will be dead at the coming.
And the second judgement.
There are more dead than living christians.Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name
***that thou livest, and art dead***.wakeup.
May 20, 2014 at 4:34 pm#383125NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Yes thee are many that think they live but are yet dead.
Do you always preach negativity?May 20, 2014 at 10:28 pm#383178NickHassanParticipantHi,
Ps 90
9 For all our days are passed away in thy wrath: we spend our years as a tale that is told.10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
? reference to resurrection or the return of the spirit to God?
May 20, 2014 at 10:48 pm#383192terrariccaParticipantall
the dead of Adam is the dead of the flesh
the second dead is the dead of the soul , you are history and gone
May 22, 2014 at 12:53 pm#383467WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ May 21 2014,09:48) all the dead of Adam is the dead of the flesh
the second dead is the dead of the soul , you are history and gone
Not so.
Speaking of the physical death.
First death happens to most;when we grow old,or by some other means.Second death is when judged and found guilty; then put to death again.(second death).
The spiritually dead happens only once,
except he has fallen away after walking in Christ.Can not mix up spiritually dead, and physically dead.
In the last days, some will not experience death at all.
They will be changed in a wink of an eye,and meet the LOrd in the air.All that is OF babylon are spiritually dead.The living dead.
wakeup.
May 22, 2014 at 5:01 pm#383489NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
There is hope for all who wish to enter.But the righteous are unlikely to obey
May 22, 2014 at 6:53 pm#383504942767ParticipantHi Wakeup:
You say:
Quote These can be good people but made drunk by the harlot; and tempted by satan and his angels and demons continuesly, and have no way to resist.
These have still a chance in the second resurrection.Just where are you getting all of this doctrine, surely it is not scriptural? If so, please give me the scriptures upon which you are basing this claim.
Love in Christ,
MartyMay 22, 2014 at 10:34 pm#383559terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 22 2014,18:53) Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2014,09:48) all the dead of Adam is the dead of the flesh
the second dead is the dead of the soul , you are history and gone
Not so.
Speaking of the physical death.
First death happens to most;when we grow old,or by some other means.Second death is when judged and found guilty; then put to death again.(second death).
The spiritually dead happens only once,
except he has fallen away after walking in Christ.Can not mix up spiritually dead, and physically dead.
In the last days, some will not experience death at all.
They will be changed in a wink of an eye,and meet the LOrd in the air.All that is OF babylon are spiritually dead.The living dead.
wakeup.
wakeupQuote First death happens to most;when we grow old,or by some other means. NOT MOST “ALL” THE SOUL THAT SINS WILL DIE “
DO NOT CHANGE THE SCRIPTURES ,
Quote In the last days, some will not experience death at all.
They will be changed in a wink of an eye,and meet the LOrd in the air.YOU HAVE A HARD TIME TO UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES WAKEUP, DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND EVEN THOSE THAT WILL MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR WILL DIE IN THE FLESH BECAUSE THE FLESH CAN NOT INHERIT HEAVEN THEY MUST BE CHANGED THIS MEANS DIE IN THEIR FLESH ,THIS IS WHAT PAUL SAID AND SO WANTED TO DIE BECAUSE IT WILL BRING HIM CLOSE TO CHRIST ,
ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE NOT YOU FLESH BODY BUT THE SOUL IN THAT BODY ,
May 23, 2014 at 5:32 am#383721WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 21 2014,03:34) Hi WU,
Yes thee are many that think they live but are yet dead.
Do you always preach negativity?
Truth is negative to you.
You are used to smooth,ear tickling words.
Such as, You are saved, and born again.wakeup.
May 23, 2014 at 7:08 am#383728NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
You prefer to preach WOE WOE WOE
It suits youMay 25, 2014 at 4:24 pm#384126journey42ParticipantQuote (942767 @ May 23 2014,05:53) Hi Wakeup: You say:
Quote These can be good people but made drunk by the harlot; and tempted by satan and his angels and demons continuesly, and have no way to resist.
These have still a chance in the second resurrection.Just where are you getting all of this doctrine, surely it is not scriptural? If so, please give me the scriptures upon which you are basing this claim.
Love in Christ,
Marty
MartyDuring the 2nd Resurrection, people will be judged by the books. The sheep on the right and the goats on the left.
Most of the saints are raised in the first resurrection.
So who are these that have been spared in the second?
Common sense will tell you that amongst them, would be many that have not known Christ, but were spared.
They were judged by the books. Their deeds.There are some good hearted people, that are born in other religions and do not know Christ, because of circumstances.
God looks into the heart remember. He is a fair judge.So not all non christians will be destroyed, as some have the gift of Love inside them, and love can cover a multitude of sins. Love is the main ingredient we need to become a saint.
But once we know the truth, and the scriptures, if we happen to fall away, there is a harsher punishment as we have no excuse.
May 25, 2014 at 4:28 pm#384128NickHassanParticipantHi J42,
The deeds are specified as being towards the brothers of Yeshua-ie to Yeshua. - AuthorPosts
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