The word is really the holyspirit

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  • #355637
    Ed J
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    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2013,19:17)
    2Co 13:14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.


    2 Cor 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God,
    and the communion of the HolySpirit, be with you all. Amen.

    #355653
    942767
    Participant

    Hi Ed:

    I do not believe that one can state that “the Holy Spirit” is “the Word of God”.  The Word of God comes from His mind and is spoken to us through “His Spirit”.  Here is the scripture:

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    1 Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  

    1Cr 2:12   Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  

    1Cr 2:13   Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  

    1Cr 2:14   But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #355658
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,18:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2013,20:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,14:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2013,19:17)
    Q. how in scriptures it says “FELLOWSHIP WITH THE TRUTH”


    A. None


    edj

    what a strange answer


    Why?  I did a search on what you asked, and reported my findings.


    edj

    2Co 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.KJV

    communion = fellowship

    #355824
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 20 2013,03:48)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,18:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2013,20:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,14:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2013,19:17)
    Q. how in scriptures it says “FELLOWSHIP WITH THE TRUTH”


    A. None


    edj

    what a strange answer


    Why?  I did a search on what you asked, and reported my findings.


    edj

    2Co 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.KJV

    communion = fellowship


    Terra.

    God has his word,he created all things with his word;
    For he spoke and it is done.
    The essence(spirit) of Gods word is truth.
    The spirit of truth.

    The spirit of truth glorifies God with the truth.
    The spirit of truth also glorifies the Word of truth.
    We glorify God because he is the truth,it is the spirit of truth in us, that we glorify God.
    No one will glorify a god that speaks lies.

    The spirit of lies keeps us in bondage,and discovering the truth will set us free.

    wakeup.

    #357410
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 22 2013,02:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 20 2013,03:48)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,18:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2013,20:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,14:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2013,19:17)
    Q. how in scriptures it says “FELLOWSHIP WITH THE TRUTH”


    A. None


    edj

    what a strange answer


    Why?  I did a search on what you asked, and reported my findings.


    edj

    2Co 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.KJV

    communion = fellowship


    Terra.

    God has his word,he created all things with his word;
    For he spoke and it is done.
    The essence(spirit) of Gods word is truth.
    The spirit of truth.

    The spirit of truth glorifies God with the truth.
    The spirit of truth also glorifies the Word of truth.
    We glorify God because he is the truth,it is the spirit of truth in us, that we glorify God.
    No one will glorify a god that speaks lies.

    The spirit of lies keeps us in bondage,and discovering the truth will set us free.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS ???

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    God has his word,he created all things with his word;
    For he spoke and it is done.

    WHERE DOES IT SAY THIS THIS ;IN GENESIS ;?

    Ge 1:27 So God created man in his own image,
    in the image of God he created him;
    male and female he created them.

    Ge 1:26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

    WHAT WAS REALLY THE IMAGE OF “OUR” US” AND MALE AND FEMALE”

    WOULD YOU NOW IMPLY ;THAT GOD HIS “OUR,US,MALE AND FEMALE '????

    #357951
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 11 2013,22:48)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 22 2013,02:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 20 2013,03:48)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,18:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2013,20:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 19 2013,14:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2013,19:17)
    Q. how in scriptures it says “FELLOWSHIP WITH THE TRUTH”


    A. None


    edj

    what a strange answer


    Why?  I did a search on what you asked, and reported my findings.


    edj

    2Co 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.KJV

    communion = fellowship


    Terra.

    God has his word,he created all things with his word;
    For he spoke and it is done.
    The essence(spirit) of Gods word is truth.
    The spirit of truth.

    The spirit of truth glorifies God with the truth.
    The spirit of truth also glorifies the Word of truth.
    We glorify God because he is the truth,it is the spirit of truth in us, that we glorify God.
    No one will glorify a god that speaks lies.

    The spirit of lies keeps us in bondage,and discovering the truth will set us free.

    wakeup.


    WAKEUP

    HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS ???

    Quote
    God has his word,he created all things with his word;
    For he spoke and it is done.

    WHERE DOES IT SAY THIS THIS ;IN GENESIS ;?

    Ge 1:27 So God created man in his own image,
    in the image of God he created him;
    male and female he created them.

    Ge 1:26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

    WHAT WAS REALLY THE IMAGE OF “OUR” US” AND MALE AND FEMALE”

    WOULD YOU NOW IMPLY ;THAT GOD HIS “OUR,US,MALE AND FEMALE '????


    Terra.

    Ps.33:9.For he spake and it was done;
    he commanded and it stood fast.

    wakeup.

    #358003
    terraricca
    Participant

    Ps 33:5 The LORD loves righteousness and justice;
    the earth is full of his unfailing love.

    Ps 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made,
    their starry host by the breath of his mouth.
    Ps 33:7 He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;
    he puts the deep into storehouses.
    Ps 33:8 Let all the earth fear the LORD?
    let all the people of the world revere him.
    Ps 33:9 For he spoke, and it came to be;
    he commanded, and it stood firm.
    Ps 33:10 The LORD foils the plans of the nations;
    he thwarts the purposes of the peoples.
    Ps 33:11 But the plans of the LORD stand firm forever,
    the purposes of his heart through all generations.

    Ps 33:12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD,
    the people he chose for his inheritance.
    Ps 33:13 From heaven the LORD looks down
    and sees all mankind;
    Ps 33:14 from his dwelling place he watches
    all who live on earth—
    Ps 33:15 he who forms the hearts of all,
    who considers everything they do.
    Ps 33:16 No king is saved by the size of his army;
    no warrior escapes by his great strength.
    Ps 33:17 A horse is a vain hope for deliverance;
    despite all its great strength it cannot save.
    Ps 33:18 But the eyes of the LORD are on those who fear him,
    on those whose hope is in his unfailing love,
    Ps 33:19 to deliver them from death
    and keep them alive in famine.

    SORRY BUT ARE THOSE SCRIPTURES TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY ?

    IF SO ,YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN A LOTS OF THINGS ;

    WE ALL KNOW BY THE SCRIPTURES THAT GOD DID NOT PLAY MAGICIAN ;NO TRUCKS, BUT KNOWLEDGE ,WISDOM WEN HE CREATED ALL THINGS ,AND TOOK THE TIME TO DO IT ,

    IF YOU ONLY COULD PUT YOUR HEART TO BELIEVE THE WHOLE SCRIPTURES AND NOT THE kjv AS THE WORD OF GOD ;YOU WOULD HAVE MORE TRUTH POURED IN YOU .

    #358032
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 18 2013,21:21)
    Ps 33:5 The LORD loves righteousness and justice;
    the earth is full of his unfailing love.

    Ps 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made,
    their starry host by the breath of his mouth.
    Ps 33:7 He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;
    he puts the deep into storehouses.
    Ps 33:8 Let all the earth fear the LORD?
    let all the people of the world revere him.
    Ps 33:9 For he spoke, and it came to be;
    he commanded, and it stood firm.
    Ps 33:10 The LORD foils the plans of the nations;
    he thwarts the purposes of the peoples.
    Ps 33:11 But the plans of the LORD stand firm forever,
    the purposes of his heart through all generations.

    Ps 33:12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD,
    the people he chose for his inheritance.
    Ps 33:13 From heaven the LORD looks down
    and sees all mankind;
    Ps 33:14 from his dwelling place he watches
    all who live on earth—
    Ps 33:15 he who forms the hearts of all,
    who considers everything they do.
    Ps 33:16 No king is saved by the size of his army;
    no warrior escapes by his great strength.
    Ps 33:17 A horse is a vain hope for deliverance;
    despite all its great strength it cannot save.
    Ps 33:18 But the eyes of the LORD are on those who fear him,
    on those whose hope is in his unfailing love,
    Ps 33:19 to deliver them from death
    and keep them alive in famine.

    SORRY BUT ARE THOSE SCRIPTURES TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY ?  

    IF SO ,YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN A LOTS OF THINGS ;

    WE ALL KNOW BY THE SCRIPTURES THAT GOD DID NOT PLAY MAGICIAN ;NO TRUCKS, BUT KNOWLEDGE ,WISDOM  WEN HE CREATED ALL THINGS ,AND TOOK THE TIME TO DO IT ,

    IF YOU ONLY COULD PUT YOUR HEART TO BELIEVE THE WHOLE SCRIPTURES AND NOT THE kjv AS THE WORD OF GOD ;YOU WOULD HAVE MORE TRUTH POURED IN YOU .


    Terra.

    quote:
    SORRY BUT ARE THOSE SCRIPTURES TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY ? unquote:

    Yes literally.
    All was created by his word;he spoke and it came to be.

    wakeup.

    #358035
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 18 2013,22:42)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 18 2013,21:21)
    Ps 33:5 The LORD loves righteousness and justice;
    the earth is full of his unfailing love.

    Ps 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made,
    their starry host by the breath of his mouth.
    Ps 33:7 He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;
    he puts the deep into storehouses.
    Ps 33:8 Let all the earth fear the LORD?
    let all the people of the world revere him.
    Ps 33:9 For he spoke, and it came to be;
    he commanded, and it stood firm.
    Ps 33:10 The LORD foils the plans of the nations;
    he thwarts the purposes of the peoples.
    Ps 33:11 But the plans of the LORD stand firm forever,
    the purposes of his heart through all generations.

    Ps 33:12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD,
    the people he chose for his inheritance.
    Ps 33:13 From heaven the LORD looks down
    and sees all mankind;
    Ps 33:14 from his dwelling place he watches
    all who live on earth—
    Ps 33:15 he who forms the hearts of all,
    who considers everything they do.
    Ps 33:16 No king is saved by the size of his army;
    no warrior escapes by his great strength.
    Ps 33:17 A horse is a vain hope for deliverance;
    despite all its great strength it cannot save.
    Ps 33:18 But the eyes of the LORD are on those who fear him,
    on those whose hope is in his unfailing love,
    Ps 33:19 to deliver them from death
    and keep them alive in famine.

    SORRY BUT ARE THOSE SCRIPTURES TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY ?  

    IF SO ,YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN A LOTS OF THINGS ;

    WE ALL KNOW BY THE SCRIPTURES THAT GOD DID NOT PLAY MAGICIAN ;NO TRUCKS, BUT KNOWLEDGE ,WISDOM  WEN HE CREATED ALL THINGS ,AND TOOK THE TIME TO DO IT ,

    IF YOU ONLY COULD PUT YOUR HEART TO BELIEVE THE WHOLE SCRIPTURES AND NOT THE kjv AS THE WORD OF GOD ;YOU WOULD HAVE MORE TRUTH POURED IN YOU .


    Terra.

    quote:
    SORRY BUT ARE THOSE SCRIPTURES TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY ? unquote:

    Yes literally.
    All was created by his word;he spoke and it came to be.

    wakeup.


    Yes literally.THIS IS YOUR ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ;

    SO,

    Ps 33:17 A horse is a vain hope for deliverance;
    despite all its great strength it cannot save.

    COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN A LITERAL WAY THIS WOULD MEAN YOU DO NOT CHANGE THE WORDS FROM SYMBOLIC TO LITERAL ;

    Ps 33:7 He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;
    he puts the deep into storehouses.

    ALSO THIS ONE ?

    #358079
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    Yes literally.THIS IS YOUR ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ;

    SO,

    Ps 33:17 A horse is a vain hope for deliverance;
    despite all its great strength it cannot save.
    —————————————————————–
    WE KNOW THAT THE HORSE WAS THE STRENGTH
    IN WAR. BUT EVEN THE STRENGTH OF THE HORSE CAN NOT SAVE.
    ——————————————————————
    COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN A LITERAL WAY THIS WOULD MEAN YOU DO NOT CHANGE THE WORDS FROM SYMBOLIC TO LITERAL ;

    Ps 33:7 He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;
    he puts the deep into storehouses.

    —————————————————————–
    THAT IS JUST PICTURING GOD'S POWER AND GREATNESS.
    LIKE THIS ONE: THE CLOUDS ARE THE DUST OF HIS FEET.
    —————————————————————-

    wakeup.

    #358091
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 19 2013,10:38)
    Terra.

    Yes literally.THIS IS YOUR ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ;

    SO,

    Ps 33:17 A horse is a vain hope for deliverance;
    despite all its great strength it cannot save.
    —————————————————————–
    WE KNOW THAT THE HORSE WAS THE STRENGTH
    IN WAR. BUT EVEN THE STRENGTH OF THE HORSE CAN NOT SAVE.
    ——————————————————————
    COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN A LITERAL WAY THIS WOULD MEAN YOU DO NOT CHANGE THE WORDS FROM SYMBOLIC TO LITERAL ;

    Ps 33:7 He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;
    he puts the deep into storehouses.

    —————————————————————–
    THAT IS JUST PICTURING GOD'S POWER AND GREATNESS.
    LIKE THIS ONE: THE CLOUDS ARE THE DUST OF HIS FEET.
    —————————————————————-

    wakeup.


    You said that it as to be taken literally ,not me,

    And now you interpreting the allegory

    What type of man are you ???

    #358128
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2013,20:18)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 19 2013,10:38)
    Terra.

    Yes literally.THIS IS YOUR ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ;

    SO,

    Ps 33:17 A horse is a vain hope for deliverance;
    despite all its great strength it cannot save.
    —————————————————————–
    WE KNOW THAT THE HORSE WAS THE STRENGTH
    IN WAR. BUT EVEN THE STRENGTH OF THE HORSE CAN NOT SAVE.
    ——————————————————————
    COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN A LITERAL WAY THIS WOULD MEAN YOU DO NOT CHANGE THE WORDS FROM SYMBOLIC TO LITERAL ;

    Ps 33:7 He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;
    he puts the deep into storehouses.

    —————————————————————–
    THAT IS JUST PICTURING GOD'S POWER AND GREATNESS.
    LIKE THIS ONE: THE CLOUDS ARE THE DUST OF HIS FEET.
    —————————————————————-

    wakeup.


    You said that it as to be taken literally ,not me,

    And now you interpreting the allegory

    What type of man are you ???


    Terra.

    You have no knowledge of discernment.
    You ought to know what is allegorical
    and what is litteral.

    wakeup.

    #358265
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 19 2013,18:47)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2013,20:18)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 19 2013,10:38)
    Terra.

    Yes literally.THIS IS YOUR ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ;

    SO,

    Ps 33:17 A horse is a vain hope for deliverance;
    despite all its great strength it cannot save.
    —————————————————————–
    WE KNOW THAT THE HORSE WAS THE STRENGTH
    IN WAR. BUT EVEN THE STRENGTH OF THE HORSE CAN NOT SAVE.
    ——————————————————————
    COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN A LITERAL WAY THIS WOULD MEAN YOU DO NOT CHANGE THE WORDS FROM SYMBOLIC TO LITERAL ;

    Ps 33:7 He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;
    he puts the deep into storehouses.

    —————————————————————–
    THAT IS JUST PICTURING GOD'S POWER AND GREATNESS.
    LIKE THIS ONE: THE CLOUDS ARE THE DUST OF HIS FEET.
    —————————————————————-

    wakeup.


    You said that it as to be taken literally ,not me,

    And now you interpreting the allegory

    What type of man are you ???


    Terra.

    You have no knowledge of discernment.
    You ought to know what is allegorical
    and what is litteral.

    wakeup.


    You are a sick man ,

    #376821
    Ed J
    Participant

    Bump for Wakeup

    #376886
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 08 2014,09:09)
    Bump for Wakeup


    That would be my waist of time ED.

    wakeup.

    #377370
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    2Co 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all.

    We are to be united by the sharing of the one Holy Spirit.
    God loves His Son and in him are the treasures of grace

    #389608
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,07:38)
    To All,

    These are the verses that PROVE “The Word” is REALLY The HolySpirit”!

    Zech.4:6
    Zech.12:1

    Matt.13:19
    Mark 4:14
    Mark13:11
    Mark 13:19
    Luke 3:2
    Luke 8:11
    John 12:49
    John 14:24
    John 17:6-8
    John 17:14
    Acts 4:31
    Acts 10:36-38
    Acts 10:44
    Acts 11:15-16
    Acts 13:4-5
    Acts 13:47-49
    Acts 17:11
    Acts 20:32
    Romans 9:5-6
    Romans 10:17
    1Cor. 12:8-9
    1Cor. 14:36
    2Cor. 5:19
    2Cor. 6:6-7
    Gal.6:6
    Eph. 1:12-13
    Eph. 5:26
    Eph. 6:17
    Phillip.2:16
    1Tm.5:17-18
    2Tm.2:11-15
    2Tm.4:2
    Hebrews 1:1-2
    Hebrews 2:2-3
    Hebrews 4:2-6
    Hebrews 4:8-12
    Hebrews 5:13-14
    Hebrews 7:28
    Hebrews 11:3
    Hebrews 12:19
    James 1:18
    1Peter 1:21-23
    1Peter 2:6-8
    1John 2:7-10
    Rev.1:2
    Rev.1:9
    Rev.19:11-16
    Rev.20:4

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Bump for Mike

    #389652
    942767
    Participant

    Those verses do not prove that the Holy Spirit is really the “Word of God”.

    The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit:

    Quote
    1 Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

    10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

    11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

    The Word of God is that which the Holy Ghost or Spirit of God teaches:

    Quote
    1 Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

    13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #389680
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ June 23 2014,10:55)
    Those verses do not prove that the Holy Spirit is really the “Word of God”.

    The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit:

    Quote
    1 Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

    10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

    11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

    The Word of God is that which the Holy Ghost or Spirit of God teaches:

    Quote
    1 Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

    13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty.

    Agree; the HS is in the the Word.

    wakeup.

    #809219
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    The problem with the notion that the Word is the Holy Spirit is that the Sword of the Spirit is called the Word of God.

    Ephesians 6:17
    Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

    So it would be like saying that the son of God is God or the colour of a house is the house.

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