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  • #376160
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2014,08:44)
    Hi WU,
    They were baptised in the Spirit at pentecost


    Nick.

    So they did not recieved the HS at baptism?
    So why do you claim that the HS is given to all at baptism?
    Not only that; They also are born again at baptism?

    What are you really saying?

    wakeup.

    #376167
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    I have never said that.
    Wake up

    #376227
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2014,09:20)
    Hi WU,
    I have never said that.
    Wake up


    Nick.

    Explain; When is one born again?

    wakeup.

    #376256
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    When God adjudges the vessel to be clean.

    #376259
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2014,12:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2014,16:08)
    Adam was the first created flesh child.
    Jesus was the first created spirit child.


    Agreed.

    And which did God create first, spirit things, or flesh things?  It was spirit things, right?


    No Mike, this verse is in contradiction with your current belief:

    “Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which
     is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.”  (1 Cor 15:46)

    The FIRST man Adam was made a living soul; the LAST Adam was made a quickening spirit.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #376260
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2014,19:02)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2014,07:54)
    Hi MB,
    So now maths is sufficient to unlock the mysteries of the Word?

    Come and join US who worship the one God


    Nick,

    1 God is not 3 persons.
    100% man and 100% God  is 100% too much.


    Hi Kerwin,

    Righto, I have a thread dedicated to this.  (Link)  

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #376261
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 03 2014,02:33)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,18:28)
    Hi WU,
    Who said that?
    You seem to mistake much that is written here.


    Nick.

    Dont you know what you are teaching?
    You say that after baptism of water You are *born again*
    and you are spirit.

    I said; no, you are only born again in the resurrection.
    This is when you are spirit.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    We are “Born from above” when
    the HolySpirit of God is birthed in us;
    the resurrection is the raising of the flesh.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #376263
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,10:32)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 03 2014,02:33)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,18:28)
    Hi WU,
    Who said that?
    You seem to mistake much that is written here.


    Nick.

    Dont you know what you are teaching?
    You say that after baptism of water You are *born again*
    and you are spirit.

    I said; no, you are only born again in the resurrection.
    This is when you are spirit.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    We are “Born from above” when
    the HolySpirit of God is birthed in us;
    the resurrection is the raising of the flesh.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    wakeup.

    #376274
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Our character is of a flesh nature (see Romans 8:5-9), but when we are
    born again we are filled with God's spiritual nature. (see also 2Peter 1:3-4)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #376275
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting that you will not have
    God's divine nature until you are resurrected?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #376288
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,15:04)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting that you will not have
    God's divine nature until you are resurrected?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    We have the spirit of Christ in us.
    We do what Christ expect us to do,but we are flesh.
    We are still born of the flesh.(of water).(mothers water).
    The flesh needs to be changed into spirit.
    First the flesh and then the spirit.
    Mother Zion will only give birth to her spirit children.

    Dont tell your friends you are spirit.

    wakeup.

    #376290
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,20:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,15:04)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting that you will not have
    God's divine nature until you are resurrected?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    We have the spirit of Christ in us.
    We do what Christ expect us to do,but we are flesh.
    We are still born of the flesh.(of water).(mothers water).
    The flesh needs to be changed into spirit.
    First the flesh and then the spirit.
    Mother Zion will only give birth to her spirit children.

    Dont tell your friends you are spirit.

    wakeup.


    Is that a “yes” then, or is your answer “no”?

    #376292
    Ed J
    Participant

    Why is it you never answer my questions?

    #376294
    Ed J
    Participant

    I'm familiar with your beliefs, I could write a book on them.

    What I want from you in our discussions, IS ANSWERS to my questions.

    #376297
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,20:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,20:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,15:04)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you suggesting that you will not have
    God's divine nature until you are resurrected?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    We have the spirit of Christ in us.
    We do what Christ expect us to do,but we are flesh.
    We are still born of the flesh.(of water).(mothers water).
    The flesh needs to be changed into spirit.
    First the flesh and then the spirit.
    Mother Zion will only give birth to her spirit children.

    Dont tell your friends you are spirit.

    wakeup.


    Is that a “yes” then, or is your answer “no”?


    EdJ.

    Yes; we have the spirit of Christ in us.
    No; we are not spirit until the resurrection.

    wakeup.

    #376298
    Ed J
    Participant

    I ask simple questions, not a plethora of them (like you do)
    which is somehow suppose to justify your beliefs,
    we all here see through that approach.

    #376305
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,20:35)
    I ask simple questions, not a plethora of them (like you do)
    which is somehow suppose to justify your beliefs,
    we all here see through that approach.


    EdJ.

    What is it really that you believe?
    Please be clarify. are you born again?
    Are you spirit?

    wakeup.

    #376306
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    There is no such thing as mother's water.
    The waters of childbirth are of the conception.

    #376308
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2014,20:45)
    Hi WU,
    There is no such thing as mother's water.
    The waters of childbirth are of the conception.


    Nick.

    Then you dont understand Jesus speech.
    He was very clear and straight.

    Born of water=flesh; born of spirit=spirit.

    Why can you not understand?

    wakeup.

    #376310
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    You have your own view on this but it does not come from scripture

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