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Isaiah 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.
Hi J42,
‘Let them be for signs and for seasons..” Gen
The Astrologers from the East were the ones who correctly interpreted these signs finding the newborn King while the Jewish leaders did not see it written in scripture.
Astrology is not the way but the signs in the stars are from God.
Nick,
You have a point as one star of Draco; Thuban, aka alpha Draconas; used to be the northern pole star about 2700 BC but lost its place. It is predicted that it will return to that place in about 2100 AD.
Princess.
The Holy bible is the word of God for your information.
Not the words of the pharisees.
Don’t know what flesh you have been eating?Wakeup,
I have to apologize, I did not know you needed verse and chapter with everything in life and were so young in your walk.
Your on a good forum to grow. All the best.
PrincessHi Kerwin.
I should say so; they are in the doctrine; and so is this: Seek and you shall find.
What about your prognoses of rev 12? Are you going to explain it to us?
Or are we to be left in the dark?wakeup.
Princess.
What really is your believe system based on?
1.Has it got a foundation?
2.Does God exist?
3.Has He got a Son?
4.Has God given us His word to feed on?
5.Is Jehovah God the creator of all things that are created?
Or is it all just in your own mind; and work on that, and see what you get.
I am sure that you will get many great feelings, and experiences.
Keep open your mind, so all things can come in and out freely. hmmmmwakeup.
With all due respect Wakeup I’ll treat you questions as you have treated mine, with no regard or importance.
Remember, when one professes to be a teacher are held to a higher standard. James 3.1 since you cannot hear.
Wakeup,
It is for others to judge where I get my inspiration from. Many claim they get it from God and yet their claim is a lie. I learn only what is revealed to me and I believe God reveals it to me.
In this case I am mainly concerned with establishing who the woman is and she is first the organization of the people who had the Law and second the organization of the people that have the gospel. In other words she is the organization that has the word of God.
Israel is the kingdom of God on earth that kingdom was taken from the unbelievers and given to the church. Just was born under the Law of the kingdom of Israel and became the Lord of the kingdom that is the church.
Satan pursued her and she was hidden in her place and from the desolation I see it seems she is hidden to this day.
Kerwin.
HERE IS MY EXPLANATION:
Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
THE WOMAN=GODS DOCTRINE. twelve stars=isreal is the 12 gates rev.21:12Revelation 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
SHE IS READY TO GIVE BIRTH TO HER CHILD. THE WORD OF GOD MADE FLESH; TO TEACH THE DOCTRINE.Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
SATAN AND HIS 7 EMPIRES.Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
THE DRAGON MANAGED TO PERSUADE ONE THIRD OF THE ANGELS TO FOLLOW HIM.
SATAN USED KING HEROD TO KILL THE BABY AS SOON AS HE WAS BORN.Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
JESUS WAS BORN,AND CAUGHT UP THE GOD.(HIS RESURRECTION) HE IS TO RULE ALL NATIONS.Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
HIS LITTLE FLOCK HAD TO FLEE AND HIDE TO PREACH.Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
NOW THE DRAGON AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST DOWN TO EARTH. NO MORE ACCESS TO HEAVEN FOR THEM.Revelation 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
THEY CAN NOT ENTER HEAVEN ANYMORE.Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
THE DECEIVER OF THE WHOLE EARTH WAS CAST DOWN INTO THE EARTH.Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
NO MORE ACCUSERS IN HEAVEN.Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
THE TRUE FOLLOWERS HAVE VICTORY OVER THE DRAGON BY FOLLOWING THE TESTIMONY OF THE LAMB.Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
BUT WOE TO THE INHABITERS OF THE EARTH; THE DEVIL IS COME DOWN UNTO YOU, AND IS FULL OF WRATH.Revelation 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
THE REMNANT OF BELIEVERS WERE PERSECUTED BY THE DRAGON.Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
GOD GAVE THEM A PLACE TO HIDE,FOR 3/HALF YEARS, AND FED.Revelation 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
THE SERPENT SENDS HIS MEN TO OVERCOME THE LITTLE CHURCH.Revelation 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
BUT GOD OPENED UP THE EARTH TO SWALLOW UP THE FLOOD. THIS HAPPENED WHEN PAUL WENT WITH HIS MEN TO DAMASCUS, TO CAPTURE THE REMNANT.
BUT JESUS APPEARED TO PAUL, ON HIS WAY TO DAMASCUS. AND HE WAS COVERTED.THE FLOOD WAS SWALLOWED UP.Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
THE DRAGON IS TODAY STILL WROTH WITH ALL THAT FOLLOW THE DOCTRINE OF JESUS.[/COLOR]wakeup.
Wakeup,
THE WOMAN=GODS DOCTRINE. twelve stars=isreal is the 12 gates rev.21:12
There are the twelve apostles as well. Remember it is a symbol of an idea and though the vehicle changed between the nation of Israel and the church they idea remained the same. It is more like the woman changed cloths as she put off the covenant of Mt Sinai and put on the covenant of the Son. At the same time the 12 tribes were exchanged for 12 apostles.
I do not believe the doctrine was hidden as it is also said the dragon warred against he children.
Wakeup,
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
SATAN AND HIS 7 EMPIRES.I believe Daniel uses four heads on a beast to speak of the four Greek kingdoms that were of the common ancestry of Alexander’s kingdom. So your claim is plausible.
Wakeup,
Revelation 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
THEY CAN NOT ENTER HEAVEN ANYMORE.Your claim is flawed as the Constellation Dracos lost his place in the heavens and yet still remains in the heavens. I can see where you are coming from but the wording is not conclusive.
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