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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2009,09:07) Hi 94,
I think it is contingent on you to show written that only some natural men are judged.
So far you have just presented your own ideas on this.
No Nick, I have given you scripture to support my beliefs relative to this.And so, if God anoints me, and confirms what I am teaching with the type of miracles that were done through Jesus and the Apostles, what that be good enough for you?
Love in Christ,
MartyHi 04,
No you have shown no scriptures that say the men before the time of Jesus suffered only the first death and would not be raised.Even the Pharisees believed in resurrection.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2009,09:16) Hi 04,
No you have shown no scriptures that say the men before the time of Jesus suffered only the first death and would not be raised.Even the Pharisees believed in resurrection.
And so, what did the Pharisees believe about the resurrection?So 94,
Where is this dividing line drawn between men who will be raised and those you think will not be.Rev20
13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.What of those who died in the sea before Christ?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2009,09:38) So 94,
Where is this dividing line drawn between men who will be raised and those you think will not be.Rev20
13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.What of those who died in the sea before Christ?
Hi Nick:Try studying this subject in these divisions, those from Adam to the flood, those destroyed by the flood, from Adam unto Moses or basically, the OT and the NT.
Of course, everyone who has obeyed God from the beginning unto the end will be saved through the sacrifice of Jesus.
Good luck in your study.
Love in Christ,
MartyHi 94,
I do not think men are divided any more than is shown in Lk15.The older son is the faithful Jew and the prodigal the sinners.
Then we never rule out the sovereign mercy of God.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2009,10:18) Hi 94,
I do not think men are divided any more than is shown in Lk15.The older son is the faithful Jew and the prodigal the sinners.
Then we never rule out the sovereign mercy of God.
Hi Nick:God is indeed merciful, and states that He is not willing that any man should perish but that all may come to repentance.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ May 08 2009,11:23) God is indeed merciful, and states that He is not willing that any man should perish but that all may come to repentance. Love in Christ,
Marty
That is what the millennium is for.
All will be resurrected, as they hear there name called; then the learning and repenting can begin.Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?And Peter says this about the millennium.
Act 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
Quote (Cindy @ May 08 2009,14:42) Quote (942767 @ May 08 2009,11:23) God is indeed merciful, and states that He is not willing that any man should perish but that all may come to repentance. Love in Christ,
Marty
That is what the millennium is for.
All will be resurrected, as they hear there name called; then the learning and repenting can begin.Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?And Peter says this about the millennium.
Act 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
Hi Georg or Mrs., I am not sure who posted.Where does the bible state that the scriptures that you quoted refer to the millenium?
Love in Christ,
MartyMarty
The fact is, not all know who Jesus is, what other time then the millennium will there be for all to get to know Jesus?
Georg
Hi Georg,
That is only said in defence of a doctrine that says all must do so.
God is merciful and kind, but some pots are for the fire.
We do not argue or make plans for HimQuote (Cindy @ May 08 2009,15:11) Marty The fact is, not all know who Jesus is, what other time then the millennium will there be for all to get to know Jesus?
Georg
Hi Georg:All who are saved from the beginning of creation until the rapture will know him at that time, but every one had an opportunity during their lifetime here on earth to repent and obey God. If they have not done so, they are not going to be saved.
Those who have heard the gospel preached to them and have rejected it and have died in their sins will be resurrected in the second resurrection to be judged.
Love in Christ,
MartyHi 94,
The way is narrow and few will choose it.
The sons of God are not many and most will need the mercy of God.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2009,06:29) Hi Georg,
1Cor15.
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.
NickI can not believe you are so naive to think this world will be for spirit beings only.
What Paul was saying in that verse was for the saints only, for those that would come up in the first resurrection.Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
They are the spirit beings, they were the once Paul was referring too, they are the once that will reign with Christ over all other human beings, for a millennium.
If you would only allow the Holy Spirit to teach you instead of relying on your own wisdom, you would understand thatGeorg
Quote (942767 @ May 09 2009,09:28) Quote (Cindy @ May 08 2009,15:11) Marty The fact is, not all know who Jesus is, what other time then the millennium will there be for all to get to know Jesus?
Georg
Hi Georg:All who are saved from the beginning of creation until the rapture will know him at that time, but every one had an opportunity during their lifetime here on earth to repent and obey God. If they have not done so, they are not going to be saved.
Those who have heard the gospel preached to them and have rejected it and have died in their sins will be resurrected in the second resurrection to be judged.
Love in Christ,
Marty
MartyWhat is your idea of the millennium?
Who is it for?
What will happen during the 1000 years?
Who will the kings and priests rule over?
Why are there kings, and what is there role?
Why are there priests, and what will be there role?Georg
Quote (Cindy @ May 09 2009,10:17) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2009,06:29) Hi Georg,
1Cor15.
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.
NickI can not believe you are so naive to think this world will be for spirit beings only.
What Paul was saying in that verse was for the saints only, for those that would come up in the first resurrection.Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
They are the spirit beings, they were the once Paul was referring too, they are the once that will reign with Christ over all other human beings, for a millennium.
If you would only allow the Holy Spirit to teach you instead of relying on your own wisdom, you would understand thatGeorg
Hi Georg,
The saints in the first resurrection are in heavenly bodies as they receive them when they are raised.[1Cor15] They will rule and reign with Christ over the surviving nations of natural men as only their armies will be destroyed and a remnant will survive the great tribulation.You boast of superior knowledge but it that wise?
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