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Quote (Colter @ Sep. 02 2012,13:12) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,12:30) Hi Colter, I believe you need to study God's word a bit more. “Jesus said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of. Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.” (John 4:32-34)                      “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Rev 13:8) “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.” (John 12:24…27) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind and establishing the kingdom of heaven.  The pagan doctrines of blood sacrifice did at least serve as an acceptable compromise paving the way for the western world to adopt. The word of God is living, it can be extracted from the inconsistent themes of the RCC's book. Colter Quote God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind Then what was the purpose of the UB?

To re-reveal the actual story of the life of Jesus on earth and more. Jesus did what he came to do, finalize the requirements for achieving sovereign authority and reveal the Father.

The Father was already forgiving, there didn't need to be a sacrifice of an innocent man to make God any more of anything.

Between the fact that evolved Judaism practised blood sacrifice and the Pagan religion believed in a sacrificed divine savoir, Christianity was born.

Colter

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Hi Colter,

Is not the UB book then in fact preaching another Jesus?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,13:14) Quote (Colter @ Sep. 02 2012,13:12) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,12:30) Hi Colter, I believe you need to study God's word a bit more. “Jesus said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of. Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.” (John 4:32-34)                      “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Rev 13:8) “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.” (John 12:24…27) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind and establishing the kingdom of heaven.  The pagan doctrines of blood sacrifice did at least serve as an acceptable compromise paving the way for the western world to adopt. The word of God is living, it can be extracted from the inconsistent themes of the RCC's book. Colter Quote God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind Then what was the purpose of the UB? To re-reveal the actual story of the life of Jesus on earth and more. Jesus did what he came to do, finalize the requirements for achieving sovereign authority and reveal the Father. The Father was already forgiving, there didn't need to be a sacrifice of an innocent man to make God any more of anything. Between the fact that evolved Judaism practised blood sacrifice and the Pagan religion believed in a sacrificed divine savoir, Christianity was born. Colter

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Christianity was born.

it was born out the evil of men ,not wanting to follow the truth of God ,

the bible as nothing to do with it .you kind of believe that the thief exist because of the honest and so the honest would be guilty for the wicked, strange thinking

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Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,14:33)

Hi Colter, Is not the UB book then in fact preaching another Jesus? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

No, the secondary opinions about Jesus in the books of the bible are at variance with Jesus' own words of the gospels.

People who do not believe Jesus often quote those secondary sources in order to discredit Jesus while simultaneously equilibrating and overlaying the contaminating theology of Paganism onto the original gospel.

Years before Jesus mentioned that mankind would benefit by his leaving, because we would receive the spirit of truth, he had a religion that he taught and practised; the gospel was not the cross.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ Sep. 02 2012,20:46) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,13:14) Quote (Colter @ Sep. 02 2012,13:12) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,12:30) Hi Colter, I believe you need to study God's word a bit more. “Jesus said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of. Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.” (John 4:32-34)                      “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Rev 13:8) “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.” (John 12:24…27) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind and establishing the kingdom of heaven.  The pagan doctrines of blood sacrifice did at least serve as an acceptable compromise paving the way for the western world to adopt. The word of God is living, it can be extracted from the inconsistent themes of the RCC's book. Colter Quote God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind Then what was the purpose of the UB? To re-reveal the actual story of the life of Jesus on earth and more. Jesus did what he came to do, finalize the requirements for achieving sovereign authority and reveal the Father. The Father was already forgiving, there didn't need to be a sacrifice of an innocent man to make God any more of anything. Between the fact that evolved Judaism practised blood sacrifice and the Pagan religion believed in a sacrificed divine savoir, Christianity was born. Colter colter Quote Christianity was born. it was born out the evil of men ,not wanting to follow the truth of God , the bible as nothing to do with it .you kind of believe that the thief exist because of the honest and so the honest would be guilty for the wicked, strange thinking

The original gospel of Jesus if the truth, I follow it.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ Sep. 03 2012,06:37)

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2012,14:51) Quote (Colter @ Sep. 02 2012,20:46) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,13:14) Quote (Colter @ Sep. 02 2012,13:12) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,12:30) Hi Colter, I believe you need to study God's word a bit more. “Jesus said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of. Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.” (John 4:32-34)                      “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Rev 13:8) “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.” (John 12:24…27) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind and establishing the kingdom of heaven.  The pagan doctrines of blood sacrifice did at least serve as an acceptable compromise paving the way for the western world to adopt. The word of God is living, it can be extracted from the inconsistent themes of the RCC's book. Colter Quote God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind Then what was the purpose of the UB? To re-reveal the actual story of the life of Jesus on earth and more. Jesus did what he came to do, finalize the requirements for achieving sovereign authority and reveal the Father. The Father was already forgiving, there didn't need to be a sacrifice of an innocent man to make God any more of anything. Between the fact that evolved Judaism practised blood sacrifice and the Pagan religion believed in a sacrificed divine savoir, Christianity was born. Colter colter Quote Christianity was born. it was born out the evil of men ,not wanting to follow the truth of God , the bible as nothing to do with it .you kind of believe that the thief exist because of the honest and so the honest would be guilty for the wicked, strange thinking The original gospel of Jesus if the truth, I follow it. Colter

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false witnessing is not one of Christ teachings,believing in men made symbols is also not a teaching of Christ ,

so who do you really follow if it is NOT Christ

your words are not in line with your actions this is contrary to Christ teachings

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Quote (Colter @ Sep. 03 2012,06:37) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2012,14:51) Quote (Colter @ Sep. 02 2012,20:46) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,13:14) Quote (Colter @ Sep. 02 2012,13:12) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,12:30) Hi Colter, I believe you need to study God's word a bit more. “Jesus said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of. Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.” (John 4:32-34)                      “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Rev 13:8) “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.” (John 12:24…27) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind and establishing the kingdom of heaven.  The pagan doctrines of blood sacrifice did at least serve as an acceptable compromise paving the way for the western world to adopt. The word of God is living, it can be extracted from the inconsistent themes of the RCC's book. Colter Quote God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind Then what was the purpose of the UB? To re-reveal the actual story of the life of Jesus on earth and more. Jesus did what he came to do, finalize the requirements for achieving sovereign authority and reveal the Father. The Father was already forgiving, there didn't need to be a sacrifice of an innocent man to make God any more of anything. Between the fact that evolved Judaism practised blood sacrifice and the Pagan religion believed in a sacrificed divine savoir, Christianity was born. Colter colter Quote Christianity was born. it was born out the evil of men ,not wanting to follow the truth of God , the bible as nothing to do with it .you kind of believe that the thief exist because of the honest and so the honest would be guilty for the wicked, strange thinking The original gospel of Jesus if the truth, I follow it. Colter COLTER false witnessing is not one of Christ teachings,believing in men made symbols is also not a teaching of Christ , so who do you really follow if it is NOT Christ your words are not in line with your actions this is contrary to Christ teachings

Is the cross a “symbol” of Christianity?

What is your obsession with Michael’s flag?

It was Ed being childish that posted the symbol, take that mater up with him.

Colter

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Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,01:15) Quote (Colter @ Sep. 03 2012,06:37) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2012,14:51) Quote (Colter @ Sep. 02 2012,20:46) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,13:14) Quote (Colter @ Sep. 02 2012,13:12) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,12:30) Hi Colter, I believe you need to study God's word a bit more. “Jesus said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of. Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.” (John 4:32-34)                      “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Rev 13:8) “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.” (John 12:24…27) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind and establishing the kingdom of heaven.  The pagan doctrines of blood sacrifice did at least serve as an acceptable compromise paving the way for the western world to adopt. The word of God is living, it can be extracted from the inconsistent themes of the RCC's book. Colter Quote God incarnate did finish the work of revealing the Father to mankind Then what was the purpose of the UB? To re-reveal the actual story of the life of Jesus on earth and more. Jesus did what he came to do, finalize the requirements for achieving sovereign authority and reveal the Father. The Father was already forgiving, there didn't need to be a sacrifice of an innocent man to make God any more of anything. Between the fact that evolved Judaism practised blood sacrifice and the Pagan religion believed in a sacrificed divine savoir, Christianity was born. Colter colter Quote Christianity was born. it was born out the evil of men ,not wanting to follow the truth of God , the bible as nothing to do with it .you kind of believe that the thief exist because of the honest and so the honest would be guilty for the wicked, strange thinking The original gospel of Jesus if the truth, I follow it. Colter COLTER false witnessing is not one of Christ teachings,believing in men made symbols is also not a teaching of Christ , so who do you really follow if it is NOT Christ your words are not in line with your actions this is contrary to Christ teachings Is the cross a “symbol” of Christianity? What is your obsession with Michael’s flag? It was Ed being childish that posted the symbol, take that mater up with him. Colter

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I do not care what other do ,the cross is not a symbol it is the weapon that was used to end the live of the only son of the living God,

I do not use this and it is not requested in scriptures either ,all that crap is men invention

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“Jesus understood the minds of men. He knew what was in the heart of man, and had his teachings been left as he presented them, the only commentary being the inspired interpretation afforded by his earth life, all nations and all religions of the world would speedily have embraced the gospel of the kingdom. The well-meant efforts of Jesus’ early followers to restate his teachings so as to make them the more acceptable to certain nations, races, and religions, only resulted in making such teachings the less acceptable to all other nations, races, and religions.

149:2.2 The Apostle Paul, in his efforts to bring the teachings of Jesus to the favorable notice of certain groups in his day, wrote many letters of instruction and admonition. Other teachers of Jesus’ gospel did likewise, but none of them realized that some of these writings would subsequently be brought together by those who would set them forth as the embodiment of the teachings of Jesus. And so, while so-called Christianity does contain more of the Master’s gospel than any other religion, it does also contain much that Jesus did not teach. Aside from the incorporation of many teachings from the Persian mysteries and much of the Greek philosophy into early Christianity, two great mistakes were made:

1. The effort to connect the gospel teaching directly onto the Jewish theology, as illustrated by the Christian doctrines of the atonement—the teaching that Jesus was the sacrificed Son who would satisfy the Father’s stern justice and appease the divine wrath. These teachings originated in a praiseworthy effort to make the gospel of the kingdom more acceptable to disbelieving Jews. Though these efforts failed as far as winning the Jews was concerned, they did not fail to confuse and alienate many honest souls in all subsequent generations.

2. The second great blunder of the Master’s early followers, and one which all subsequent generations have persisted in perpetuating, was to organize the Christian teaching so completely about the person of Jesus. This overemphasis of the personality of Jesus in the theology of Christianity has worked to obscure his teachings, and all of this has made it increasingly difficult for Jews, Mohammedans, Hindus, and other Eastern religionists to accept the teachings of Jesus. We would not belittle the place of the person of Jesus in a religion which might bear his name, but we would not permit such consideration to eclipse his inspired life or to supplant his saving message: the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ Sep. 03 2012,03:10)

Is the cross a “symbol” of Christianity? What is your obsession with Michael’s flag? It was Ed being childish that posted the symbol, take that mater up with him. Colter

You mean this?

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,07:31)

YOU MUST BELIEVE

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[Ed J]

Hi Colter,

“And he shall set up an ensign for the nations,
 and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel,
 and gather together the dispersed of Judah
 from the four corners of the earth.” (Isa 11:12)

“And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that
day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.” (Zech 14:9)

“And YHVH their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people:
for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.” (Zech 9:16)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,17:07)

Hi Colter, “And he shall set up an ensign for the nations,  and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel,  and gather together the dispersed of Judah  from the four corners of the earth.” (Isa 11:12) “And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.” (Zech 14:9) “And YHVH their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.” (Zech 9:16) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

“All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth,
see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains;
and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye.” (Isa 18:3)

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Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,17:07)

Hi Colter, http://i39.photobucket.com/albums….mg] “And he shall set up an ensign for the nations,  and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel,  and gather together the dispersed of Judah  from the four corners of the earth.” (Isa 11:12) “And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.” (Zech 14:9) “And YHVH their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.” (Zech 9:16) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

But the Son of God didn't do that

his kingdom was not Israel, it was spiritual and world wide

he didn't take up David’s corrupt seat, he returned to his real throne on high.

Israel and its edited scriptures lost it's egotistical place, it was brought low and is merely a museum to a broken promise.
This is why you are not to be taken seriously; you make false accusations while accusing others of dishonesty.

“Peace be upon you. I have asked you to tarry here in Jerusalem until I ascend to the Father, even until I send you the Spirit of Truth, who shall soon be poured out upon all flesh, and who shall endow you with power from on high.” Simon Zelotes interrupted Jesus, asking, “Then, Master, will you restore the kingdom, and will we see the glory of God manifested on earth?” When Jesus had listened to Simon’s question, he answered: “Simon, you still cling to your old ideas about the Jewish Messiah and the material kingdom. But you will receive spiritual power after the spirit has descended upon you, and you will presently go into all the world preaching this gospel of the kingdom. As the Father sent me into the world, so do I send you. And I wish that you would love and trust one another. Judas is no more with you because his love grew cold, and because he refused to trust you, his loyal brethren. Have you not read in the Scripture where it is written: ‘It is not good for man to be alone. No man lives to himself’? And also where it says: ‘He who would have friends must show himself friendly’? And did I not even send you out to teach, two and two, that you might not become lonely and fall into the mischief and miseries of isolation? You also well know that, when I was in the flesh, I did not permit myself to be alone for long periods. From the very beginning of our associations I always had two or three of you constantly by my side or else very near at hand even when I communed with the Father. Trust, therefore, and confide in one another. And this is all the more needful since I am this day going to leave you alone in the world. The hour has come; I am about to go to the Father.”

Colter

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Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,17:07) Hi Colter, http://i39.photobucket.com/albums….mg] “And he shall set up an ensign for the nations,  and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel,  and gather together the dispersed of Judah  from the four corners of the earth.” (Isa 11:12) “And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.” (Zech 14:9) “And YHVH their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.” (Zech 9:16) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org “All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye.” (Isa 18:3)

edj.

And you said; that has already happened,and Christ is now ruling for 2000yrs.

The Lord shall be king over all the earth,in that day there shall be ONE LORD.

And you said that day is now and had started 2000yrs ago, and his ensign is lifted up, its flying today.

You have a lot to answer for bro.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ Sep. 03 2012,22:39)

you make false accusations while accusing others of dishonesty. Colter

Hi Colter,

This is a false accusation – where is your proof of this accusation?

Ed J

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Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 03 2012,22:54)

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,17:16) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 03 2012,17:07) Hi Colter, http://i39.photobucket.com/albums….mg] “And he shall set up an ensign for the nations,  and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel,  and gather together the dispersed of Judah  from the four corners of the earth.” (Isa 11:12) “And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.” (Zech 14:9) “And YHVH their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.” (Zech 9:16) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org “All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye.” (Isa 18:3) edj. And you said;  that has already happened,and Christ is now ruling for 2000yrs. The Lord shall be king over all the earth,in that day there shall be ONE LORD. And you said that day is now and had started 2000yrs ago, and his ensign is lifted up, its flying today. You have a lot to answer for bro. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

You should do a study on the seven feasts of the LORD.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ Sep. 03 2012,22:39)

This is why you are not to be taken seriously;

Hi Colter,

You don't take what I say seriously?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,08:25)

Quote (Colter @ Sep. 03 2012,22:39) you make false accusations while accusing others of dishonesty. Colter Hi Colter, This is a false accusation – where is your proof of this accusation? Ed J

By deliberately trying to correlate the UB with the Quran when you know full well that isn't true. Your silly question's lead me to not take you seriously.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ Sep. 04 2012,09:33)

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,08:25) Quote (Colter @ Sep. 03 2012,22:39) you make false accusations while accusing others of dishonesty. Colter Hi Colter, This is a false accusation – where is your proof of this accusation? Ed J By deliberately trying to correlate the UB with the Quran when you know full well that isn't true. Your silly question's lead me to not take you seriously. Colter

Hi Colter,

When you said you had things in common with muslims,
I wanted to find out how much you knew about the quran.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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