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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 11 2012,23:49) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 11 2012,21:31) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 11 2012,14:28) Hi Colter, Are you instead suggesting that Michael and Jesus are different beings?
God bless
Ed J
You should know better then to ask me these silly questions if, in fact, you read the UB.Michael is the heavenly name of our eternal creator Son. He is eternal, he is the creator of this world and many others. He is both Lord and God to us. He is the Son of God who incarnate in the miraculous life of Jesus. He returned to heaven having completed the requirement of the Father.
Michael and Jesus are one and the same.
The Michael of Johns revelation is Jesus.
Colter
Hi Colter, (for the record)So you are you suggesting that Michael the Archangel (according to the bible)
and Jesus (according to you) are the same being then; right? please answerGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed, do you have a reading comprehension problem? Are you deliberately playing the part of a moron? Or are you a blatant liar and distorter of words?I will repost the same reply, study it carefully, if you do not understand it then ask someone nearby to help you understand it, perhaps your wife, or your barber, the gardener, maybe go to the freaking Home Depot and ask someone in the lumber department to help you!
But looking at the Bible, was Michael, the father of Sethur, also an angel?
There is more then one Michael in the bible. In Johns revelation Michael is NOT referred to as either an arch angel or a human Michael.
The Michael of The Book of Revelation IS NOT referred to as the arch angel Michal of Daniel!!!!
Did you not know that?
????????Colter
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2012,23:59) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 11 2012,21:31) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 11 2012,14:28) Hi Colter, Are you instead suggesting that Michael and Jesus are different beings?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You should know better then to ask me these silly questions if, in fact, you read the UB.Michael is the heavenly name of our eternal creator Son. He is eternal, he is the creator of this world and many others. He is both Lord and God to us. He is the Son of God who incarnate in the miraculous life of Jesus. He returned to heaven having completed the requirement of the Father.
Michael and Jesus are one and the same.
The Michael of Johns revelation is Jesus.
Colter
Colter.Jesus name was never Micha'el.
Here is one more Contradiction of the many.
The ub. has nothing to do with the bible(the word of God).
The ub is<— –> the bible. Its like darkness and light.The ub. came out of mirky waters; dont keep on drinking it.
wakeup.
The enemies of Jesus maintained the same ignorant hardness of heart towards him and thought they were doing Gods will to reject him.good luck
Colter
Hi Colter, will you please answer my question?
Are you suggesting that Michael the Archangel (according to the bible)
and Jesus (according to you) are the same being? <– please answerGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,12:26) Hi Colter, will you please answer my question? Are you suggesting that Michael the Archangel (according to the bible)
and Jesus (according to you) are the same being? <– please answerGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No!Jesus was never an arch angel!
John's Michael was not an arch angel.
Michael was the Son of God,he incarnate as Jesus, now that he has returned to the right hand of the Father he is “Christ” Michael.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 12 2012,13:46) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,12:26) Hi Colter, will you please answer my question? Are you suggesting that Michael the Archangel (according to the bible)
and Jesus (according to you) are the same being? <– please answerGod bless
Ed J
No!Colter
Hi Colter, thanks!Sometimes I find it hard to get people to answer (what I believe to be) simple questions.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Colter,
The bible calls “Angels” son's of God,
do you believe angels are son's of God?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Colter @ Aug. 12 2012,07:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2012,23:59) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 11 2012,21:31) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 11 2012,14:28) Hi Colter, Are you instead suggesting that Michael and Jesus are different beings?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You should know better then to ask me these silly questions if, in fact, you read the UB.Michael is the heavenly name of our eternal creator Son. He is eternal, he is the creator of this world and many others. He is both Lord and God to us. He is the Son of God who incarnate in the miraculous life of Jesus. He returned to heaven having completed the requirement of the Father.
Michael and Jesus are one and the same.
The Michael of Johns revelation is Jesus.
Colter
Colter.Jesus name was never Micha'el.
Here is one more Contradiction of the many.
The ub. has nothing to do with the bible(the word of God).
The ub is<— –> the bible. Its like darkness and light.The ub. came out of mirky waters; dont keep on drinking it.
wakeup.
The enemies of Jesus maintained the same ignorant hardness of heart towards him and thought they were doing Gods will to reject him.good luck
Colter
Colter.You are so sure that you are doing Gods will,but at the same time blatantly ignoring your Lord(if he is) by not following his advice.
But following some strangers,some strange lords advice,getting drunken by it.The Lords advice is: You must EAT his flesh to have eternal life. His flesh is spirit;for he is spirit.(the word of God is spirit).
Only his flesh,and not some other flesh as well.No combination of flesh is permitted.wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,14:02) Hi Colter, The bible calls “Angels” son's of God,
do you believe angels are son's of God?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
YesColter
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,15:45) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 12 2012,07:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 11 2012,23:59) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 11 2012,21:31) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 11 2012,14:28) Hi Colter, Are you instead suggesting that Michael and Jesus are different beings?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You should know better then to ask me these silly questions if, in fact, you read the UB.Michael is the heavenly name of our eternal creator Son. He is eternal, he is the creator of this world and many others. He is both Lord and God to us. He is the Son of God who incarnate in the miraculous life of Jesus. He returned to heaven having completed the requirement of the Father.
Michael and Jesus are one and the same.
The Michael of Johns revelation is Jesus.
Colter
Colter.Jesus name was never Micha'el.
Here is one more Contradiction of the many.
The ub. has nothing to do with the bible(the word of God).
The ub is<— –> the bible. Its like darkness and light.The ub. came out of mirky waters; dont keep on drinking it.
wakeup.
The enemies of Jesus maintained the same ignorant hardness of heart towards him and thought they were doing Gods will to reject him.good luck
Colter
Colter.You are so sure that you are doing Gods will,but at the same time blatantly ignoring your Lord(if he is) by not following his advice.
But following some strangers,some strange lords advice,getting drunken by it.The Lords advice is: You must EAT his flesh to have eternal life. His flesh is spirit;for he is spirit.(the word of God is spirit).
Only his flesh,and not some other flesh as well.No combination of flesh is permitted.wakeup.
Wakup,I do not doubt your sincerity, you seem like a nice and faithful person. If you firmly believe that the educated, ruling elite preist class, has always been perfect in it's motives and deliberations, then by all means continue to submit to them. I do not and I won't.
The spirit of the Living God is my Father and the Living Son is my salvation.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 12 2012,13:46) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,12:26) Hi Colter, will you please answer my question? Are you suggesting that Michael the Archangel (according to the bible)
and Jesus (according to you) are the same being? <– please answerGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No!Jesus was never an arch angel!
John's Michael was not an arch angel.
Michael was the Son of God,he incarnate as Jesus, now that he has returned to the right hand of the Father he is “Christ” Michael.
Colter
Colter.As you know,we must go by the scriptures,or anyone could go their own way,and pick and choose.
So can you show us scriptures regarding jesus name change to Micha'el?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,23:44) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 12 2012,13:46) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,12:26) Hi Colter, will you please answer my question? Are you suggesting that Michael the Archangel (according to the bible)
and Jesus (according to you) are the same being? <– please answerGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No!Jesus was never an arch angel!
John's Michael was not an arch angel.
Michael was the Son of God,he incarnate as Jesus, now that he has returned to the right hand of the Father he is “Christ” Michael.
Colter
Colter.As you know,we must go by the scriptures,or anyone could go their own way,and pick and choose.
So can you show us scriptures regarding jesus name change to Micha'el?
wakeup.
Because you are severely limited by the fetish of scripture worship the only place that I can point you to is the ascension, when Jesus returned to his rightful place in heaven from which he came. To the heavenly host Michael had returned to them, only now he is “Christ Michael”. John saw Michael in Revelation, he saw Michael/Jesus defeat Satan in righteousness while on earth.The Ascension of Jesus
50 When he had led them out to the vicinity of Bethany,(AZ) he lifted up his hands and blessed them. 51 While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up into heaven.
Revelation 12
7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Luke 10:17-21
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.Colter
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 13 2012,06:08) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,23:44) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 12 2012,13:46) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,12:26) Hi Colter, will you please answer my question? Are you suggesting that Michael the Archangel (according to the bible)
and Jesus (according to you) are the same being? <– please answerGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No!Jesus was never an arch angel!
John's Michael was not an arch angel.
Michael was the Son of God,he incarnate as Jesus, now that he has returned to the right hand of the Father he is “Christ” Michael.
Colter
Colter.As you know,we must go by the scriptures,or anyone could go their own way,and pick and choose.
So can you show us scriptures regarding jesus name change to Micha'el?
wakeup.
Because you are severely limited by the fetish of scripture worship the only place that I can point you to is the ascension, when Jesus returned to his rightful place in heaven from which he came. To the heavenly host Michael had returned to them, only now he is “Christ Michael”. John saw Michael in Revelation, he saw Michael/Jesus defeat Satan in righteousness while on earth.The Ascension of Jesus
50 When he had led them out to the vicinity of Bethany,(AZ) he lifted up his hands and blessed them. 51 While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up into heaven.
Revelation 12
7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Luke 10:17-21
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.Colter
Colter.I am flabbergasted with your comment regarding Jesus name change into micha'el.
Jesus is the KING and Micha'el is the worrior angel,he does all the warring if needed.I also noticed that you are quoting scriptures,that you say is a made up story? (corrupted) Why?
By the way how about this: rev.19:13. And he was clothed in a vesture dipped in blood: AND HIS NAME IS CALLED THE WORD OF GOD.
Does this sound like Micha'el to you? (or is this part now corrupted)?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2012,07:10) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 13 2012,06:08) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 12 2012,23:44) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 12 2012,13:46) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,12:26) Hi Colter, will you please answer my question? Are you suggesting that Michael the Archangel (according to the bible)
and Jesus (according to you) are the same being? <– please answerGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No!Jesus was never an arch angel!
John's Michael was not an arch angel.
Michael was the Son of God,he incarnate as Jesus, now that he has returned to the right hand of the Father he is “Christ” Michael.
Colter
Colter.As you know,we must go by the scriptures,or anyone could go their own way,and pick and choose.
So can you show us scriptures regarding jesus name change to Micha'el?
wakeup.
Because you are severely limited by the fetish of scripture worship the only place that I can point you to is the ascension, when Jesus returned to his rightful place in heaven from which he came. To the heavenly host Michael had returned to them, only now he is “Christ Michael”. John saw Michael in Revelation, he saw Michael/Jesus defeat Satan in righteousness while on earth.The Ascension of Jesus
50 When he had led them out to the vicinity of Bethany,(AZ) he lifted up his hands and blessed them. 51 While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up into heaven.
Revelation 12
7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Luke 10:17-21
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.Colter
Colter.I am flabbergasted with your comment regarding Jesus name change into micha'el.
Jesus is the KING and Micha'el is the worrior angel,he does all the warring if needed.I also noticed that you are quoting scriptures,that you say is a made up story? (corrupted) Why?
By the way how about this: rev.19:13. And he was clothed in a vesture dipped in blood: AND HIS NAME IS CALLED THE WORD OF GOD.
Does this sound like Micha'el to you? (or is this part now corrupted)?
wakeup.
No, in revelation Michael is most certainly not referred to as a warrior angel, just “Michael”.I didn't say that scripture is a “made up story” the Bible is not one book, it's 66 books of varying quality of spiritual and historic accuracy. There used to be more books for centuries after Jesus that were also considered to be “inspired”. The church got rid of them. The Old Testament was all redone during the captivity.
I'm NOT flabbergasted that Michael’s name changed to Jesus while he was on the earth, that’s the way he wanted it. Now that he is back in heaven his name is Christ Michael.
I don’t know what the blood dipping stuff is. Michael is “the word” in John 1 but other then that it's hard to say.
Colter
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2012,07:50) Colter. Please; HIS NAME IS CALLED,THE WORD OF GOD.
NOT MICHA'EL JESUS.wakeup.
Gabriel didn't tell Mary to name her child, the Son incarnate “The Word of God”. That would have been awkward at school and stuff.John saw a lot of interesting stuff in his revelation, one thing he saw was Michael. I don’t know if Jesus ever privately told the 12 his heavenly name.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 12 2012,13:46) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,12:26) Hi Colter, will you please answer my question? Are you suggesting that Michael the Archangel (according to the bible)
and Jesus (according to you) are the same being? <– please answerGod bless
Ed J
No!Colter
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 13 2012,06:08) John saw Michael in Revelation, he saw Michael/Jesus defeat Satan in righteousness while on earth. Hi Colter,
Do you always have trouble “CORRECTLY” saying what you mean?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 13 2012,10:13) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 12 2012,13:46) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,12:26) Hi Colter, will you please answer my question? Are you suggesting that Michael the Archangel (according to the bible)
and Jesus (according to you) are the same being? <– please answerGod bless
Ed J
No!Colter
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 13 2012,06:08) John saw Michael in Revelation, he saw Michael/Jesus defeat Satan in righteousness while on earth. Hi Colter,
Do you always have trouble “CORRECTLY” saying what you mean?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Most people that I encounter understand me, maybe the problem is you?Johns revelation was past, present and future, then i was edited and garbled so it's anyone's guess.
Colter
Hi Colter, here's your chance to be specific and honest
Do you believe Michael, who is spoken of by John in the book of revelation, is…
1. Michael the Archangel
2. Jesus of Nazareth
3. Both 1 and 2.
4. OtherIf 4 then please explain.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Colter @ Aug. 13 2012,11:31) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 13 2012,10:13) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 12 2012,13:46) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2012,12:26) Hi Colter, will you please answer my question? Are you suggesting that Michael the Archangel (according to the bible)
and Jesus (according to you) are the same being? <– please answerGod bless
Ed J
No!Colter
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 13 2012,06:08) John saw Michael in Revelation, he saw Michael/Jesus defeat Satan in righteousness while on earth. Hi Colter,
Do you always have trouble “CORRECTLY” saying what you mean?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Most people that I encounter understand me, maybe the problem is you?Johns revelation was past, present and future, then i was edited and garbled so it's anyone's guess.
Colter
You can hardly blame me for YOUR lack of articulation.Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 13 2012,11:38) Hi Colter, here's your chance to be specific and honest Do you believe Michael, who is spoken of by John in the book of revelation, is…
1. Michael the Archangel
2. Jesus of Nazareth
3. Both 1 and 2.
4. OtherIf 4 then please explain.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
2.Colter
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