The two witnesses of revelation

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ April 25 2014,13:01) Quote (Wakeup @ April 25 2014,07:44) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2014,12:16) Hi J42, No Nick. In the US,everyone that need healt care need to have a chip. This is only the first step. Next will be to buy and sell, and to have a job or a bank account. wakeup. wup the only thing you need in the U.S.A. to have health care is MONEY T. The ob.care is about the chip. It's a $5000 fine if you dont have one. wakeup.

wakeup

have you some back up on this fine ;because my info is that the Ob care is not compulsory ,but a LOW COST MEDICARE to poor American

[NickHassan]

Quote (942767 @ April 26 2014,10:43)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 25 2014,08:50) Marty. I agree. We are not saved untill we have stood fast unto the end. wakeup. Hi Wakeup: We are saved when we are born again, and he has said that he will never leave us nor forsake us, but yes, we can forsake him and go back into the world.  He does not take away our freedom to choose. And so, yes, we must believe God's promises and continue in the faith until we either go by the grave or he comes for the church and we are still alive and serving him. Love in Christ, Marty

Hi 94,
Saved?
No that is just getting to the start line.

Then we have to build a structure that will survive the fires of testing.
We have to add to the one talent God has invested in us.

We have to produce fruit for the gardener.

We are given the power to BECOME sons of God

[NickHassan]

Hi,
If the preaching of the gospel is to the whole world [matt 24.14]there will need to be more than two prophets to do the job.
Think again.

[942767]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2014,15:16)

Quote (942767 @ April 26 2014,10:43) Quote (Wakeup @ April 25 2014,08:50) Marty. I agree. We are not saved untill we have stood fast unto the end. wakeup. Hi Wakeup: We are saved when we are born again, and he has said that he will never leave us nor forsake us, but yes, we can forsake him and go back into the world.  He does not take away our freedom to choose. And so, yes, we must believe God's promises and continue in the faith until we either go by the grave or he comes for the church and we are still alive and serving him. Love in Christ, Marty Hi 94, Saved? No that is just getting to the start line. Then we have to build a structure that will survive the fires of testing. We have to add to the one talent God has invested in us. We have to produce fruit for the gardener. We are given the power to BECOME sons of God

Hi Nick:

We are saved when we are born again, but yes, as I have already stated, we must continue in the faith until either we go by the grave or Jesus comes for the church, and that means cooperating with God, our Father, as He shapes us and molds us into what we are to become.

But suppose I should die right after I am born again? Am I saved or not?

Love in Christ,
Marty

[NickHassan]

Hi 94,
God knows those who are His.
Trust Him

[942767]

Yes, Nick:

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I trust in His Word: Romans 8 King James Version (KJV) 8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[NickHassan]

Hi 94,
So you must be reborn into Christ.
You must then know the voice of the Spirit.
Then you must walk in alignment with the teaching.

The sons of God are not condemned.
They are cleansed by the sprinkling of the blood

[942767]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2014,14:05)

Hi 94, So you must be reborn into Christ. You must then know the voice of the Spirit. Then you must walk in alignment with the teaching. The sons of God are not condemned. They are cleansed by the sprinkling of the blood

True.

We are washed in the blood of the lamb when we are born again from the dead?

True repentance is not just a mental assent.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[NickHassan]

Hi 94,
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

power to BECOME

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ May 03 2014,13:10)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 25 2014,14:34) Quote (terraricca @ April 25 2014,13:01) Quote (Wakeup @ April 25 2014,07:44) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2014,12:16) Hi J42, No Nick. In the US,everyone that need healt care need to have a chip. This is only the first step. Next will be to buy and sell, and to have a job or a bank account. wakeup. wup the only thing you need in the U.S.A. to have health care is MONEY T. The ob.care is about the chip. It's a $5000 fine if you dont have one. wakeup. wakeup have you some back up on this fine ;because my info is that the Ob care is not compulsory ,but a LOW COST MEDICARE to poor American

T.

If I can find that video,I will post it.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 05 2014,16:25)

Quote (terraricca @ May 03 2014,13:10) Quote (Wakeup @ April 25 2014,14:34) Quote (terraricca @ April 25 2014,13:01) Quote (Wakeup @ April 25 2014,07:44) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2014,12:16) Hi J42, No Nick. In the US,everyone that need healt care need to have a chip. This is only the first step. Next will be to buy and sell, and to have a job or a bank account. wakeup. wup the only thing you need in the U.S.A. to have health care is MONEY T. The ob.care is about the chip. It's a $5000 fine if you dont have one. wakeup. wakeup have you some back up on this fine ;because my info is that the Ob care is not compulsory ,but a LOW COST MEDICARE to poor American T. If I can find that video,I will post it. wakeup.

wakeup

so what you have said is ear say ;and that is bad ,because it brings us back to truth in all things ,

and this is one more thing what is not true ,video or not ,

you could have gone to the internet USA GOV and check it out but you rather answer me “IF I FIND THE VIDEO ”

THIS IS NOT MAKING YOU TRUST WORTHY IN ANYTHING

BUT THIS IS MY OPINION SOME OTHERS MAY TRUST YOU ,

SOME TRUST THE DEVIL AS WELL

[Wakeup]

Hi T.

No one is compelled to believe me.
It is all up the the person.
Your believing or not, does not make any difference to me.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Yes they should drink from their own cistern

[942767]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2014,14:14)

Hi 94, John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: power to BECOME

Hi Nick:

I became His child when I was raised from the dead by His Holy Spirit.

And yes, He does know who are His, and I also by the Spirit that dwells within me.

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1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

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1 John 5:5 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[NickHassan]

hi,
The two witnesses will preach the gospel throughout the world-called Sodom or Egypt.

2.Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

So not two men

[NickHassan]

Hi,
I believe this is the work of the witnesses
What do others think?
Revelation 14:6
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

[942767]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 12 2014,09:05)

Hi, I believe this is the work of the witnesses What do others think? Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Hi Nick:

We know that angelic beings do not preach the gospel, and therefore, these “angels=messengers” are men who preach the gospel, but there are three angels, each with a different message, and although, the two witnesses are preaching during the sixth trumpet which probably corresponds to this time, they are two, and not three.  The scriptures do not state that they are the only ones preaching at this time.

The scriptures do not state that the three angels are the two witnesses.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[NickHassan]

Hi 94,
God send His messages via the messengers.
Angels brought the ten commandments to Moses.[heb 2.2]

But men preach the gospel on earth

[keras]

Isn't it obvious that those who proclaim the coming Kingdom of Jesus are the 144,000?
Luke 10:1-12 is the precursor for this, they will go out in pairs to all the world – and then the end shall come.
The two chief witnesses will preach in Jerusalem and they will be killed, Rev 11:3-13 but the others are protected by God.

[942767]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 12 2014,11:33)

Hi 94, God send His messages via the messengers. Angels brought the ten commandments to Moses.[heb 2.2] But men preach the gospel on earth

Hi Nick:

The angelic beings were sent to men with a message from God in the OT, but in the NT the commission to preach the gospel to every creature is given to the church.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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