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    Wakeup
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    THE HARVEST AND THE CLOSING AND OPENING OF THE TEMPLE.

    Revelation 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. THE *CROWN* REPRESENTS AUTHORITY
    TO DO THE JOB.

    Revelation 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

    Revelation 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
    THIS IS THE REAPING OF THE *WHEAT*; THE *WEED* WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF BY THE WRATH OF GOD. SOME WILL ESCAPE, AND BECOME THE REMNANTS OF THE GENTILES TO MULTIPLY OUTSIDE THE KINGDOM,BUT THEIR DOMINIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY,YET THEIR LIVES PROLONGED FOR A TIME AND SEASON(A1000YRS,PLUS).DAN.7:12.

    Revelation 14:17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

    Revelation 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the **clusters of the vine** of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

    Revelation 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
    THIS IS THE REAPING OF THE CLUSTERS OF THE VINE
    IN THE WINEPRESS OF THE WRATH OF GOD.
    THESE ARE THE ARMIES,WARRING THE LORD.

    Revelation 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
    TRODDEN WITHOUT THE CITY,WHEN THEY GATHERED TOGETHER TO MAKE WAR WITH THE LORD.(THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON).(THE 7TH TRUMPET/VIAL).
    ****************
    Revelation 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
    WHEN THE FIRST ANGEL HAVE SOUNDED,THE TEMPLE IN HEAVEN WILL BE CLOSED.THE ARC IS CLOSED,NO ONE CAN ENTER ANYMORE.

    Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
    THESE ARE THEY THAT HAVE REFUSED THE MARK OF THE BEAST, SOME OF THEM KILLED. THE SEA OF GLASS IS BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD.

    Revelation 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
    THE SONG OF MOSES(OLD TESTAMENT); THE SONG OF THE LAMB(NEW TESTAMENT).THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN WHITE ROBES,AFTER THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH THE TRIBULATION.

    Revelation 15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
    ALL *NATIONS* WILL COME EVERY YEAR TO CELEBRATE THE FEAST OF TABERNCLES,IN THE KINGDOM.
    ZECH.14:16. EVERYONE THAT IS LEFT OF ALL THE NATIONS
    WILL COME.

    Revelation 15:5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
    OPENED TO LET THE ANGELS OUT.

    Revelation 15:6 And the *seven angels came out* of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.

    Revelation 15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
    NOTICE;NO TRUMPETS MENTIONED,BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME. EVERY ANGEL HAS A TRUMPET AND A VIAL IN HIS HAND.THEY BLOW THE TRUMPET AND THEN POURED OUT THE VIAL.

    Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.
    HERE THE **TEMPLE IS CLOSED**
    NO ONE CAN ENTER THE TEMPLE UNTILL THE SEVEN PLAGUES ARE FINISHED.
    WHEN THE FIRST ANGEL POURED OUT THE PLAGUE,THIS IS WHEN THE TEMPLE WAS CLOSED.

    wakeup.

    #343047
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)
    THE HARVEST AND THE CLOSING AND OPENING OF THE TEMPLE.

    Revelation 14:14   And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. THE  *CROWN* REPRESENTS AUTHORITY
    TO DO THE JOB.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, and *CLOUD* represents “CLOUD OF WITNESSES”. (see Rom.12:1)
    and *SHARP SICKLE*  represents (the cutting aspect of) “THE WORD”.
    (see also Hebrews 4:12 and Revelation 2:12)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #343054
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2013,04:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)
    THE HARVEST AND THE CLOSING AND OPENING OF THE TEMPLE.

    Revelation 14:14   And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. THE  *CROWN* REPRESENTS AUTHORITY
    TO DO THE JOB.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, and *CLOUD* represents “CLOUD OF WITNESSES”. (see Rom.12:1)
    and *SHARP SICKLE*  represents (the cutting aspect of) “THE WORD”.
    (see also Hebrews 4:12 and Revelation 2:12)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,

    Amen. Also;

    Heb.12:1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us,

    Peace brother.

    #343055
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2013,23:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)
    THE HARVEST AND THE CLOSING AND OPENING OF THE TEMPLE.

    Revelation 14:14   And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. THE  *CROWN* REPRESENTS AUTHORITY
    TO DO THE JOB.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, and *CLOUD* represents “CLOUD OF WITNESSES”. (see Rom.12:1)
    and *SHARP SICKLE*  represents (the cutting aspect of) “THE WORD”.
    (see also Hebrews 4:12 and Revelation 2:12)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Brother EDJ,
    The sicle is used to do the harvest,
    and the sword is used in war.
    We can not confuse the two.
    The cloud indicates that the angel is in our atmosphere.

    wakeup.

    #343063
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,05:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2013,23:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)
    THE HARVEST AND THE CLOSING AND OPENING OF THE TEMPLE.

    Revelation 14:14   And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. THE  *CROWN* REPRESENTS AUTHORITY
    TO DO THE JOB.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, and *CLOUD* represents “CLOUD OF WITNESSES”. (see Rom.12:1)
    and *SHARP SICKLE*  represents (the cutting aspect of) “THE WORD”.
    (see also Hebrews 4:12 and Revelation 2:12)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Brother EDJ,
    The sicle is used to do the harvest,
    and the sword is used in war.
    We can not confuse the two.
    The cloud indicates that the angel is in our atmosphere.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    So what do you say the “sharp sickle” is then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #343082
    Resting
    Participant

    Wakeup,April wrote:

    [/quote]
    Wakeup,

    What scriptures say this–

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    NOTICE;NO TRUMPETS MENTIONED,BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME. EVERY ANGEL HAS A TRUMPET AND A VIAL IN HIS HAND.THEY BLOW THE TRUMPET AND THEN POURED OUT THE VIAL.

    Res.

    #343122
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2013,07:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,05:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2013,23:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)
    THE HARVEST AND THE CLOSING AND OPENING OF THE TEMPLE.

    Revelation 14:14   And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. THE  *CROWN* REPRESENTS AUTHORITY
    TO DO THE JOB.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, and *CLOUD* represents “CLOUD OF WITNESSES”. (see Rom.12:1)
    and *SHARP SICKLE*  represents (the cutting aspect of) “THE WORD”.
    (see also Hebrews 4:12 and Revelation 2:12)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Brother EDJ,
    The sicle is used to do the harvest,
    and the sword is used in war.
    We can not confuse the two.
    The cloud indicates that the angel is in our atmosphere.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    So what do you say the “sharp sickle” is then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi EDJ.

    If you see the farmers carying sickles around
    that means harvest time;not war time.
    The sickle is a tool of harvest,the reaping of the wheat.

    wakeup.

    #343128
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,15:25)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2013,07:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,05:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2013,23:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)
    THE HARVEST AND THE CLOSING AND OPENING OF THE TEMPLE.

    Revelation 14:14   And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. THE  *CROWN* REPRESENTS AUTHORITY
    TO DO THE JOB.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, and *CLOUD* represents “CLOUD OF WITNESSES”. (see Rom.12:1)
    and *SHARP SICKLE*  represents (the cutting aspect of) “THE WORD”.
    (see also Hebrews 4:12 and Revelation 2:12)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Brother EDJ,
    The sicle is used to do the harvest,
    and the sword is used in war.
    We can not confuse the two.
    The cloud indicates that the angel is in our atmosphere.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    So what do you say the “sharp sickle” is then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi EDJ.

    If you see the farmers carying sickles around
    that means harvest time;not war time.
    The sickle is a tool of harvest,the reaping of the wheat.

    wakeup.


    So, you claim it doesn't represent anything then?

    #343132
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,10:01)

    Wakeup,April wrote:

    [/quote]
    Wakeup,

    What scriptures say this–

    Quote
     
    NOTICE;NO TRUMPETS MENTIONED,BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME. EVERY ANGEL HAS A TRUMPET AND A VIAL IN HIS HAND.THEY BLOW THE TRUMPET AND THEN POURED OUT THE VIAL.

    Res.


    Resting.

    That was just my explanation; what the scripture says is this.
    That there are 7 angels;not 14.angels.
    There are 7angels:
    *BUT* 7trumpets and 7vials; 7+7=14.implements.
    Its obvious that each angel has two implements,in his hands.

    wakeup.

    #343138
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,17:09)

    Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,10:01)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)


    Wakeup,

    What scriptures say this–

    Quote
     
    NOTICE;NO TRUMPETS MENTIONED,BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME. EVERY ANGEL HAS A TRUMPET AND A VIAL IN HIS HAND.THEY BLOW THE TRUMPET AND THEN POURED OUT THE VIAL.

    Res.


    Resting.

    That was just my explanation; what the scripture says is this.
    That there are 7 angels;not 14.angels.
    There are 7angels:
    *BUT* 7trumpets and 7vials;  7+7=14.implements.
    Its obvious that each angel has two implements,in his hands.

    wakeup.


    Trumpets are a voice, not an implement,

    Trumpets are at the beginning of the feast month, not the vials.

    Trumpets are finished before the first vial is poured out.

    Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
    Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    Rev 8:1  And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    Rev 15:1  And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
    Rev 15:2  And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
    Rev 15:3  And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
    Rev 15:4  Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
    Rev 15:5  And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
    Rev 15:6  And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.
    Rev 15:7  And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
    Rev 15:8  And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

    Res.

    #343145
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,20:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,17:09)

    Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,10:01)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)


    Wakeup,

    What scriptures say this–

    Quote
     
    NOTICE;NO TRUMPETS MENTIONED,BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME. EVERY ANGEL HAS A TRUMPET AND A VIAL IN HIS HAND.THEY BLOW THE TRUMPET AND THEN POURED OUT THE VIAL.

    Res.


    Resting.

    That was just my explanation; what the scripture says is this.
    That there are 7 angels;not 14.angels.
    There are 7angels:
    *BUT* 7trumpets and 7vials;  7+7=14.implements.
    Its obvious that each angel has two implements,in his hands.

    wakeup.


    Trumpets are a voice, not an implement,

    Trumpets are at the beginning of the feast month, not the vials.

    Trumpets are finished before the first vial is poured out.

    Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
    Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    Rev 8:1  And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    Rev 15:1  And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
    Rev 15:2  And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
    Rev 15:3  And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
    Rev 15:4  Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
    Rev 15:5  And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
    Rev 15:6  And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.
    Rev 15:7  And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
    Rev 15:8  And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

    Res.


    Resting.

    Are you claiming that there are in total 14 angels?

    wakeup.

    #343147
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2013,16:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,15:25)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 27 2013,07:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,05:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2013,23:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)
    THE HARVEST AND THE CLOSING AND OPENING OF THE TEMPLE.

    Revelation 14:14   And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. THE  *CROWN* REPRESENTS AUTHORITY
    TO DO THE JOB.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, and *CLOUD* represents “CLOUD OF WITNESSES”. (see Rom.12:1)
    and *SHARP SICKLE*  represents (the cutting aspect of) “THE WORD”.
    (see also Hebrews 4:12 and Revelation 2:12)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Brother EDJ,
    The sicle is used to do the harvest,
    and the sword is used in war.
    We can not confuse the two.
    The cloud indicates that the angel is in our atmosphere.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    So what do you say the “sharp sickle” is then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi EDJ.

    If you see the farmers carying sickles around
    that means harvest time;not war time.
    The sickle is a tool of harvest,the reaping of the wheat.

    wakeup.


    So, you claim it doesn't represent anything then?


    Hi EdJ,are you feeling alright?

    wakeup.

    #343173
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,23:26)
    Hi EdJ,are you feeling alright?

    wakeup.


    Yea just fine, why?

    #343183
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2013,06:45)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,23:26)
    Hi EdJ,are you feeling alright?

    wakeup.


    Yea just fine, why?


    Thats good Ed; A sickle is the symbol of harvest used.
    A sword is the symbol of war.
    Jesus had a sword out of his mouth,representing his word.
    He commands, and it is done.

    wakeup.

    #343185
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 28 2013,09:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2013,06:45)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,23:26)
    Hi EdJ,are you feeling alright?

    wakeup.


    Yea just fine, why?


    Thats good Ed; A sickle is the symbol of harvest used.
    A sword is the symbol of war.
    Jesus had a sword out of his mouth,representing his word.
    He commands, and it is done.

    wakeup.


    he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;” (Isa 49:2)
    “For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh:
    and the slain (ref. 2Thess 2:8) of the LORD shall be many. (Isa 66:16)

    “And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered
    the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
    And the winepress was trodden without the [HolyCity], and blood came out of the winepress” (Rev 14:19-20)

    “Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life,
    and may enter in through the gates into the [HolyCity]. For [outside] are dogs, and sorcerers,
    and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” (Rev 22:14-15)

    Only the righteous may enter the city …………………… Ed J

    #343186
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,23:03)

    Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,20:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,17:09)

    Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,10:01)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)


    Wakeup,

    What scriptures say this–

    Quote
     
    NOTICE;NO TRUMPETS MENTIONED,BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME. EVERY ANGEL HAS A TRUMPET AND A VIAL IN HIS HAND.THEY BLOW THE TRUMPET AND THEN POURED OUT THE VIAL.

    Res.


    Resting.

    That was just my explanation; what the scripture says is this.
    That there are 7 angels;not 14.angels.
    There are 7angels:
    *BUT* 7trumpets and 7vials;  7+7=14.implements.
    Its obvious that each angel has two implements,in his hands.

    wakeup.


    Trumpets are a voice, not an implement,

    Trumpets are at the beginning of the feast month, not the vials.

    Trumpets are finished before the first vial is poured out.

    Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
    Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    Rev 8:1  And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    Rev 15:1  And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
    Rev 15:2  And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
    Rev 15:3  And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
    Rev 15:4  Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
    Rev 15:5  And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
    Rev 15:6  And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.
    Rev 15:7  And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
    Rev 15:8  And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

    Res.


    Resting.

    Are you claiming that there are in total 14 angels?

    wakeup.

    No.

    I could claim 21 angels that way.

    Why avoid the point.

    The trumpets are voices.

    You do not know what trumpets are and that is significant.

    most all churches do not know their fate either.

    There is the resurrection at the 7th trumpet followed by the first vial after a short time, and the first 5 vials are sufferings of the beasts kingdom but in the earlier trumpets it was the beast causing all of the suffering.

    You can find this order in reading Rev.ch 17 and then Ch 18 cronologicaly in order.

    The same order is in Isaiah ch 10.

    Res.

    #343193
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ April 28 2013,10:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,23:03)

    Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,20:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,17:09)

    Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,10:01)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)


    Wakeup,

    What scriptures say this–

    Quote
     
    NOTICE;NO TRUMPETS MENTIONED,BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME. EVERY ANGEL HAS A TRUMPET AND A VIAL IN HIS HAND.THEY BLOW THE TRUMPET AND THEN POURED OUT THE VIAL.

    Res.


    Resting.

    That was just my explanation; what the scripture says is this.
    That there are 7 angels;not 14.angels.
    There are 7angels:
    *BUT* 7trumpets and 7vials;  7+7=14.implements.
    Its obvious that each angel has two implements,in his hands.

    wakeup.


    Trumpets are a voice, not an implement,

    Trumpets are at the beginning of the feast month, not the vials.

    Trumpets are finished before the first vial is poured out.

    Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
    Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    Rev 8:1  And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    Rev 15:1  And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
    Rev 15:2  And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
    Rev 15:3  And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
    Rev 15:4  Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
    Rev 15:5  And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
    Rev 15:6  And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.
    Rev 15:7  And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
    Rev 15:8  And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

    Res.


    Resting.

    Are you claiming that there are in total 14 angels?

    wakeup.

    No.

    I could claim 21 angels that way.

    Why avoid the point.

    The trumpets are voices.

    You do not know what trumpets are and that is significant.

    most all churches do not know their fate either.

    There is the resurrection at the 7th trumpet followed by the first vial after a short time, and the first 5 vials are sufferings of the beasts kingdom but in the earlier trumpets it was the beast causing all of the suffering.

    You can find this order in reading Rev.ch 17 and then Ch 18 cronologicaly in order.

    The same order is in Isaiah ch 10.

    Res.


    Resting.

    your interpretation does not harmonise with the scriptures.

    The 7th trumpet is the coming, and the destruction of babylon; and will only take one day,therefore there is no room for the 7vials. All 7vials can not, and will not be administered in one day.The 7th trumpet is the 7th vial.

    There are 4 trumpets; and 3woes,which are the 5th,6th,7th trumpet. No more woes or vials can be added.

    Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, THE MYSTERY OF GOD **SHOULD BE FINISHED**, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    AFTER THE 7TH TRUMPET;ALL IS DONE. NO MORE VIALS; FOR ALL IS DONE;*FINISHED*.
    AFTER THE *3WOES* ALL IS FINISHED.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.

    #343203
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 28 2013,11:26)

    Quote (Resting @ April 28 2013,10:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,23:03)

    Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,20:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,17:09)

    Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,10:01)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,23:14)


    Wakeup,

    What scriptures say this–

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    NOTICE;NO TRUMPETS MENTIONED,BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME. EVERY ANGEL HAS A TRUMPET AND A VIAL IN HIS HAND.THEY BLOW THE TRUMPET AND THEN POURED OUT THE VIAL.

    Res.


    Resting.

    That was just my explanation; what the scripture says is this.
    That there are 7 angels;not 14.angels.
    There are 7angels:
    *BUT* 7trumpets and 7vials;  7+7=14.implements.
    Its obvious that each angel has two implements,in his hands.

    wakeup.


    Trumpets are a voice, not an implement,

    Trumpets are at the beginning of the feast month, not the vials.

    Trumpets are finished before the first vial is poured out.

    Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
    Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    Rev 8:1  And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    Rev 15:1  And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
    Rev 15:2  And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
    Rev 15:3  And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
    Rev 15:4  Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
    Rev 15:5  And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
    Rev 15:6  And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.
    Rev 15:7  And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
    Rev 15:8  And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

    Res.


    Resting.

    Are you claiming that there are in total 14 angels?

    wakeup.

    No.

    I could claim 21 angels that way.

    Why avoid the point.

    The trumpets are voices.

    You do not know what trumpets are and that is significant.

    most all churches do not know their fate either.

    There is the resurrection at the 7th trumpet followed by the first vial after a short time, and the first 5 vials are sufferings of the beasts kingdom but in the earlier trumpets it was the beast causing all of the suffering.

    You can find this order in reading Rev.ch 17 and then Ch 18 cronologicaly in order.

    The same order is in Isaiah ch 10.

    Res.


    Resting.

    your interpretation does not harmonise with the scriptures.

    The 7th trumpet is the coming, and the destruction of babylon; and will only take one day,therefore there is no room for the 7vials. All 7vials can not, and will not be administered in one day.The 7th trumpet is the 7th vial.

    There are 4 trumpets; and 3woes,which are the 5th,6th,7th trumpet. No more woes or vials can be added.

    Revelation 10:7   But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, THE MYSTERY OF GOD **SHOULD BE FINISHED**, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    AFTER THE 7TH TRUMPET;ALL IS DONE. NO MORE VIALS; FOR ALL IS DONE;*FINISHED*.
    AFTER THE *3WOES* ALL IS FINISHED.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    You are wrong.

    Look at Rev.ch 10 and you will see the seven thunders uttered after Christ returns.

    They are in Deut.

    It does not matter, because you put your opinion against the word of God and refuse to be corrected.

    There is no difference between you and the churches you condemn.

    No wonder you refuse water baptism, a commandment of the Lord.

    Res.

    #343205
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2013,09:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 28 2013,09:32)

    Thats good Ed; A sickle is the symbol of harvest used.
    A sword is the symbol of war.
    Jesus had a sword out of his mouth,representing his word.
    He commands, and it is done.

    wakeup.


    he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;” (Isa 49:2)
    “For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh:
    and the slain (ref. 2Thess 2:8) of the LORD shall be many. (Isa 66:16)

    “And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered
    the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
    And the winepress was trodden without the [HolyCity], and blood came out of the winepress” (Rev 14:19-20)

    “Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life,
    and may enter in through the gates into the [HolyCity]. For [outside] are dogs, and sorcerers,
    and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” (Rev 22:14-15)

    Only the righteous may enter the city …………………… Ed J


    Wakeup?

    #343209
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2013,15:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2013,09:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 28 2013,09:32)

    Thats good Ed; A sickle is the symbol of harvest used.
    A sword is the symbol of war.
    Jesus had a sword out of his mouth,representing his word.
    He commands, and it is done.

    wakeup.


    he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;” (Isa 49:2)
    “For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh:
    and the slain (ref. 2Thess 2:8) of the LORD shall be many. (Isa 66:16)

    “And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered
    the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
    And the winepress was trodden without the [HolyCity], and blood came out of the winepress” (Rev 14:19-20)

    “Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life,
    and may enter in through the gates into the [HolyCity]. For [outside] are dogs, and sorcerers,
    and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” (Rev 22:14-15)

    Only the righteous may enter the city …………………… Ed J


    Wakeup?


    EdJ.

    I haveb said what I have to say about the 3woes.
    What is your question?

    wakeup.

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