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  • #360450
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,07:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,01:30)

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 29 2013,05:32)
    Wakeup,

    The term is firstborn as in heir.  The AKJV has it as one word the clause “the firstborn from the dead”.

    It can mean:

    1) He is the first individual that was revealed from out of the dead.
    2) He is the first of those that are revealed out of the dead.

    The 2nd is true because he is Lord of all things in heaven and on earth.

    The first is false if you consider Lazarus and others that were called from among the dead to continue living their mortal lives.

    If you disregard those as not applying because you assume that it is speaking to those revealed for eternal life then you have Moses whose died and yet is recorded as living and visiting with Jesus when he was transfigured on the mountain.

    A passage that Jesus later refers to as a vision and one Peter later refers to as actually occurring, 2 Peter 1:16-18.

    The first tests false unless you find a way in which it can be true.


    Kerwin.

    Go and visit your library,but you wont find this truth:

    Colossians 1:18   And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning,

    ***the firstborn from the dead***;

    that in all things he might have the preeminence.

    HE WAS BORN ONCE AND THEN BORN AGAIN.

    wakeup.


    W

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
    Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
    Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
    Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

    YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE ;AND STUDY THE SCRIPTURES FOR THE TRUTH OF GOD NOT YOURS

    ;; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

    1) HE (CHRIST) IS THE BEGINNING
    2) THE FIRSTBORN FROM AMONG THE DEAD
    3) SO THAT IN EVERYTHING HE (CHRIST )MIGHT HAVE THE SUPREMACY

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND THOSE 3 ITEMS ??? IF YOU DO THEN IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO ALSO UNDERSTAND THIS ;Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. AND THIS  ; For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT “SUPREMACY ” MEANS ???


    Terra.

    HE WAS THE FIRST BORN OVER ALL CREATION.
    Mankind was created.
    The man Jesus was born;therefore created.
    HE WAS THE FIRST BORN FROM THE DEAD.
    THERE WAS NONE BEFORE HIM RESURRECTED.
    HE WAS THE FIRST.(FIRST BORN FROM THE DEAD).

    LAZARUS WAS NOT RESURRECTED;BUT REVIVED.
    BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE IN HIS SAME BODY.
    HE DIED AGAIN. HE DID NOT GO TO HEAVEN AFTER HE WAS REVIVED. JESUS WENT TO HEAVEN.

    wakeup.

    #360460
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,08:50)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,07:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,01:30)

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 29 2013,05:32)
    Wakeup,

    The term is firstborn as in heir.  The AKJV has it as one word the clause “the firstborn from the dead”.

    It can mean:

    1) He is the first individual that was revealed from out of the dead.
    2) He is the first of those that are revealed out of the dead.

    The 2nd is true because he is Lord of all things in heaven and on earth.

    The first is false if you consider Lazarus and others that were called from among the dead to continue living their mortal lives.

    If you disregard those as not applying because you assume that it is speaking to those revealed for eternal life then you have Moses whose died and yet is recorded as living and visiting with Jesus when he was transfigured on the mountain.

    A passage that Jesus later refers to as a vision and one Peter later refers to as actually occurring, 2 Peter 1:16-18.

    The first tests false unless you find a way in which it can be true.


    Kerwin.

    Go and visit your library,but you wont find this truth:

    Colossians 1:18   And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning,

    ***the firstborn from the dead***;

    that in all things he might have the preeminence.

    HE WAS BORN ONCE AND THEN BORN AGAIN.

    wakeup.


    W

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
    Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
    Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
    Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

    YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE ;AND STUDY THE SCRIPTURES FOR THE TRUTH OF GOD NOT YOURS

    ;; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

    1) HE (CHRIST) IS THE BEGINNING
    2) THE FIRSTBORN FROM AMONG THE DEAD
    3) SO THAT IN EVERYTHING HE (CHRIST )MIGHT HAVE THE SUPREMACY

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND THOSE 3 ITEMS ??? IF YOU DO THEN IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO ALSO UNDERSTAND THIS ;Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. AND THIS  ; For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT “SUPREMACY ” MEANS ???


    Terra.

    HE WAS THE FIRST BORN OVER ALL CREATION.
    Mankind was created.
    The man Jesus was born;therefore created.
    HE WAS THE FIRST BORN FROM THE DEAD.
    THERE WAS NONE BEFORE HIM RESURRECTED.
    HE WAS THE FIRST.(FIRST BORN FROM THE DEAD).

    LAZARUS WAS NOT RESURRECTED;BUT REVIVED.
    BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE IN HIS SAME BODY.
    HE DIED AGAIN. HE DID NOT GO TO HEAVEN AFTER HE WAS REVIVED. JESUS WENT TO HEAVEN.

    wakeup.


    W

    You do not answer my questions ,so I feel I am talking to a bloc wall

    #360463
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,15:01)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,08:50)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,07:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,01:30)

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 29 2013,05:32)
    Wakeup,

    The term is firstborn as in heir.  The AKJV has it as one word the clause “the firstborn from the dead”.

    It can mean:

    1) He is the first individual that was revealed from out of the dead.
    2) He is the first of those that are revealed out of the dead.

    The 2nd is true because he is Lord of all things in heaven and on earth.

    The first is false if you consider Lazarus and others that were called from among the dead to continue living their mortal lives.

    If you disregard those as not applying because you assume that it is speaking to those revealed for eternal life then you have Moses whose died and yet is recorded as living and visiting with Jesus when he was transfigured on the mountain.

    A passage that Jesus later refers to as a vision and one Peter later refers to as actually occurring, 2 Peter 1:16-18.

    The first tests false unless you find a way in which it can be true.


    Kerwin.

    Go and visit your library,but you wont find this truth:

    Colossians 1:18   And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning,

    ***the firstborn from the dead***;

    that in all things he might have the preeminence.

    HE WAS BORN ONCE AND THEN BORN AGAIN.

    wakeup.


    W

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
    Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
    Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
    Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

    YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE ;AND STUDY THE SCRIPTURES FOR THE TRUTH OF GOD NOT YOURS

    ;; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

    1) HE (CHRIST) IS THE BEGINNING
    2) THE FIRSTBORN FROM AMONG THE DEAD
    3) SO THAT IN EVERYTHING HE (CHRIST )MIGHT HAVE THE SUPREMACY

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND THOSE 3 ITEMS ??? IF YOU DO THEN IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO ALSO UNDERSTAND THIS ;Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. AND THIS  ; For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT “SUPREMACY ” MEANS ???


    Terra.

    HE WAS THE FIRST BORN OVER ALL CREATION.
    Mankind was created.
    The man Jesus was born;therefore created.
    HE WAS THE FIRST BORN FROM THE DEAD.
    THERE WAS NONE BEFORE HIM RESURRECTED.
    HE WAS THE FIRST.(FIRST BORN FROM THE DEAD).

    LAZARUS WAS NOT RESURRECTED;BUT REVIVED.
    BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE IN HIS SAME BODY.
    HE DIED AGAIN. HE DID NOT GO TO HEAVEN AFTER HE WAS REVIVED. JESUS WENT TO HEAVEN.

    wakeup.


    W

    You do not answer my questions ,so I feel I am talking to a bloc wall


    Terra.

    The Word of God was the first born,in heaven?
    But you also said that God always had a mouth.

    You are full of contradictions.

    Here is another one of your contradiction:

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
    ***The everlasting Father***,
    The Prince of Peace.

    Can one be the first born in heaven, and also be from everlasting?

    PLEASE ANSWER.

    wakeup.

    #360470
    terraricca
    Participant

    W

    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean ???

    And THE WORD his the name of Christ in heaven according to the book of Revelation 9 ……

    Look it up,but Mike already told you that .

    #360479
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:43)
    W

    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean ???

    And THE WORD his the name of Christ in heaven according to the book of Revelation 9 ……

    Look it up,but Mike already told you that .


    Terra.

    Quote
    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean

    I keep on repeating the question because
    you keep on contradicting the question.
    You asked me what everlasting means,
    and I did explain.

    wakeup.

    #360494
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,14:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:43)
    W

    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean ???

    And THE WORD his the name of Christ in heaven according to the book of Revelation 9 ……

    Look it up,but Mike already told you that .


    Terra.

    Quote
    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean

    I keep on repeating the question because
    you keep on contradicting the question.
    You asked me what everlasting means,
    and I did explain.

    wakeup.


    W

    STILL CANNOT ANSWER THE QUESTION,ALWAYS DOGGING ,AND COMPLAINING BUT NO ANSWERS

    #360510
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2013,02:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,14:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:43)
    W

    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean ???

    And THE WORD his the name of Christ in heaven according to the book of Revelation 9 ……

    Look it up,but Mike already told you that .


    Terra.

    Quote
    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean

    I keep on repeating the question because
    you keep on contradicting the question.
    You asked me what everlasting means,
    and I did explain.

    wakeup.


    W

    STILL CANNOT ANSWER THE QUESTION,ALWAYS DOGGING ,AND COMPLAINING BUT NO ANSWERS  


    Terra.

    You have not been reading my answers.

    I have said before that the Word's name is the Word of God.
    Your word has no name. right?
    Rev.19 says and his name is called the Word of God.
    The man's name after birth was Jesus.

    wakeup.

    #360517
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 30 2013,00:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2013,02:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,14:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:43)
    W

    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean ???

    And THE WORD his the name of Christ in heaven according to the book of Revelation 9 ……

    Look it up,but Mike already told you that .


    Terra.

    Quote
    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean

    I keep on repeating the question because
    you keep on contradicting the question.
    You asked me what everlasting means,
    and I did explain.

    wakeup.


    W

    STILL CANNOT ANSWER THE QUESTION,ALWAYS DOGGING ,AND COMPLAINING BUT NO ANSWERS  


    Terra.

    You have not been reading my answers.

    I have said before that the Word's name is the Word of God.
    Your word has no name. right?
    Rev.19 says and his name is called the Word of God.
    The man's name after birth was Jesus.

    wakeup.


    W

    CANNOT HELP YOU TO THAT UNDERSTANDING ,IT SEEMS THAT SOMETHING IN YOU IS PREVENTING YOU TO SEE THE TRUTH ,SO MAY BE LATER

    #360534
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:43)
    W

    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean ???

    And THE WORD his the name of Christ in heaven according to the book of Revelation 9 ……

    Look it up,but Mike already told you that .


    Terra.

    Quote
    STILL CANNOT ANSWER THE QUESTION,ALWAYS DOGGING ,AND COMPLAINING BUT NO ANSWERS

    Yes this is what you are doing.

    Can one be from everlasting when one is created??

    wakeup.

    #360542
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 30 2013,07:44)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:43)
    W

    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean ???

    And THE WORD his the name of Christ in heaven according to the book of Revelation 9 ……

    Look it up,but Mike already told you that .


    Terra.

    Quote
    STILL CANNOT ANSWER THE QUESTION,ALWAYS DOGGING ,AND COMPLAINING BUT NO ANSWERS

    Yes this is what you are doing.

    Can one be from everlasting when one is created??

    wakeup.


    W

    YES ;because the word you are asking about is false ;get some more studies on it ;

    I am done with you ;no more energy left ;you are not understanding scriptures but more you do not care

    #360545
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2013,13:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 30 2013,07:44)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:43)
    W

    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean ???

    And THE WORD his the name of Christ in heaven according to the book of Revelation 9 ……

    Look it up,but Mike already told you that .


    Terra.

    Quote
    STILL CANNOT ANSWER THE QUESTION,ALWAYS DOGGING ,AND COMPLAINING BUT NO ANSWERS

    Yes this is what you are doing.

    Can one be from everlasting when one is created??

    wakeup.


    W

    YES ;because the word you are asking about is false ;get some more studies on it ;

    I am done with you ;no more energy left ;you are not understanding scriptures but more you do not care


    Who is dogging queations here?
    My question was simple.

    Can one be created, and is also from everlasting?
    **TERRA SAYS YES,AND THIS QUESTION IS FALSE**.

    This really boggles my mind.
    Should I learn swahili or Nephali?
    Its so hard to have good communication sometimes.

    wakeup.

    #360574
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 30 2013,09:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2013,13:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 30 2013,07:44)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:43)
    W

    You repeat the same question as in the other topic ;so tell me what is the meaning of the word , everlasting , and what does it not mean ???

    And THE WORD his the name of Christ in heaven according to the book of Revelation 9 ……

    Look it up,but Mike already told you that .


    Terra.

    Quote
    STILL CANNOT ANSWER THE QUESTION,ALWAYS DOGGING ,AND COMPLAINING BUT NO ANSWERS

    Yes this is what you are doing.

    Can one be from everlasting when one is created??

    wakeup.


    W

    YES ;because the word you are asking about is false ;get some more studies on it ;

    I am done with you ;no more energy left ;you are not understanding scriptures but more you do not care


    Who is dogging queations here?
    My question was simple.

    Can one be created, and is also from everlasting?
    **TERRA SAYS YES,AND THIS QUESTION IS FALSE**.

    This really boggles my mind.
    Should I learn swahili or Nephali?
    Its  so hard to have good communication sometimes.

    wakeup.


    W

    THIS QUOTE OF YOURS IS THE SAME THAN IN ALL OTHER TOPIC ,YOU JUST ARGUE AND ARGUE ,WASTING PEOPLE'S TIME FOR NOTHING ;

    SO YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN ,BY,BY,BY,

    #360846
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Bye bye black bird.

    wakeup.

    #360849
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,10:10)
    Bye bye black bird.

    wakeup.


    W

    IT SEEMS YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR PERSONALITY ; :(

    #360871
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,15:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,10:10)
    Bye bye black bird.

    wakeup.


    W

    IT SEEMS YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR PERSONALITY ; :(


    T.

    Are you angree?
    Need to laugh sometimes.
    I should have said: bye bye black sheep.
    You like it?

    wakeup.

    #360891
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,16:14)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,15:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,10:10)
    Bye bye black bird.

    wakeup.


    W

    IT SEEMS YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR PERSONALITY ; :(


    T.

    Are you angree?
    Need to laugh sometimes.
    I should have said: bye bye black sheep.
    You like it?

    wakeup.


    w

    one day you may regret all your jokes or all that useless small talk ,

    #360995
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2013,01:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,16:14)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,15:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,10:10)
    Bye bye black bird.

    wakeup.


    W

    IT SEEMS YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR PERSONALITY ; :(


    T.

    Are you angree?
    Need to laugh sometimes.
    I should have said: bye bye black sheep.
    You like it?

    wakeup.


    w

    one day you may regret all your jokes or all that useless  small talk ,


    Hi Terra.

    Get well soon.
    We are still praying.

    wakeup.

    #360998
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 03 2013,23:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2013,01:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,16:14)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,15:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,10:10)
    Bye bye black bird.

    wakeup.


    W

    IT SEEMS YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR PERSONALITY ; :(


    T.

    Are you angree?
    Need to laugh sometimes.
    I should have said: bye bye black sheep.
    You like it?

    wakeup.


    w

    one day you may regret all your jokes or all that useless  small talk ,


    Hi Terra.

    Get well soon.
    We are still praying.

    wakeup.


    W

    I AM DOING FINE NOW ,GOT OUR MY WHEELCHAIR ,WHAT EVER GOD DOES WITH ME IS GOOD FOR ME ,

    IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO PRAY FOR ALL RIGHTEOUS BELIEVERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD ,

    Quote
    Are you angree?

    I AM NEVER ANGRY :D

    #361049
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2013,04:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 03 2013,23:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2013,01:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,16:14)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 02 2013,15:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,10:10)
    Bye bye black bird.

    wakeup.


    W

    IT SEEMS YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR PERSONALITY ; :(


    T.

    Are you angree?
    Need to laugh sometimes.
    I should have said: bye bye black sheep.
    You like it?

    wakeup.


    w

    one day you may regret all your jokes or all that useless  small talk ,


    Hi Terra.

    Get well soon.
    We are still praying.

    wakeup.


    W

    I AM DOING FINE NOW ,GOT OUR MY WHEELCHAIR ,WHAT EVER GOD DOES WITH ME IS GOOD FOR ME ,

    IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO PRAY FOR ALL RIGHTEOUS BELIEVERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD ,

    Quote
    Are you angree?

    I AM NEVER ANGRY  :D


    t.

    It's not good for your heath.
    Why get angry,if someone does not agree with you?

    wakeup.

    #361062
    terraricca
    Participant

    w

    Quote
    Why get angry,if someone does not agree with you?

    i do not get angry ,it is not my problem ,I just deliver the message ,on the other hand ,this is out of my hands ,why would I be angry ,
    we all stand in front of God's throne ,all day long he sees us ,if we joke,if we play,if we lie,if we do good ,if we serve him,if we do wicked things ect….. some do not believe this ,but it is true ,

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