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- May 9, 2014 at 1:21 am#381393
terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2014,06:11) Hi t,
2 Corinthians 13:4
For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.2 Corinthians 13:9
For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.Hebrews 11:34
Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.
Nwhat kind of weakness does Paul talks about compared to the one you showed
is it the same weakness
May 9, 2014 at 1:25 am#381396NickHassan
ParticipantHi T,
The awareness of our total dependency on God.
Flesh contributes nothingMay 9, 2014 at 1:26 am#381397NickHassan
ParticipantHi t,
1 cor 21 And when I came to you, brethren, I did not come with superiority of speech or of wisdom, proclaiming to you the [a]testimony of God. 2 For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. 3 I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling,
May 9, 2014 at 12:43 pm#381457terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2014,07:26) Hi t,
1 cor 21 And when I came to you, brethren, I did not come with superiority of speech or of wisdom, proclaiming to you the [a]testimony of God. 2 For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. 3 I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling,
nICKQuote Hi,
God's power shows up best in weak peopleSO THIS COMMENT DOES NOT FIT PAUL THINKING RIGHT
May 9, 2014 at 12:45 pm#381458terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2014,07:25) Hi T,
The awareness of our total dependency on God.
Flesh contributes nothing
NICKQuote Flesh contributes nothing IN WHICH WAY IS THIS COMMENT TRUE AND IN WHICH WAY IS IT FALSE
DO YOU KNOW ?
May 9, 2014 at 7:36 pm#381511NickHassan
ParticipantHi T,
May 10, 2014 at 12:46 am#381535terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2014,01:36) Hi T,
NickQuote Flesh contributes nothing first this are not the words Christ used ,is it
no
if flesh does not contribute nothing then you are dead no
May 10, 2014 at 7:02 am#381571NickHassan
ParticipantHi WU,
We must produce fruit.
If the tree is planted and dies it cannot do so.
But if the seed is never planted nothing can be produced except thorns and thistles.Such is the state of natural man even if he might imagine he is a lofty and productive tree of the lord
May 11, 2014 at 12:43 am#381650terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2014,13:02) Hi WU,
We must produce fruit.
If the tree is planted and dies it cannot do so.
But if the seed is never planted nothing can be produced except thorns and thistles.Such is the state of natural man even if he might imagine he is a lofty and productive tree of the lord
Nbut if so ,then the flesh we have contribute to produce those fruits is it not
yes
so the true understanding of Christ words are not what you said ,nor mean to be ;
so what is it then that those words mean
May 11, 2014 at 8:34 am#381687NickHassan
ParticipantHi t,
The fruits that matter to God are those of the Spirit.[Gal 5]
While we live in the body it is involved as wellMay 11, 2014 at 12:48 pm#381701terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2014,14:34) Hi t,
The fruits that matter to God are those of the Spirit.[Gal 5]
While we live in the body it is involved as well
Nso you are using Gal;5 as a form of law to live by right
May 18, 2014 at 3:33 am#382783terraricca
Participantwe should love God ,for good reasons and show that we believe in him ,deep down in our hearts ,love of God means that all things we do are of his acceptance and make his pleasure ,because God loves those who love him ,
it is impossible to someone to deeply love God and not produce the fruits there of ,so LOVE IS GREATER
May 18, 2014 at 3:38 am#382787NickHassan
ParticipantHi t,
So loving God means you do not have to obey Him and you will be saved from His wrath?
Is this another gospel? Gal1May 18, 2014 at 2:31 pm#382829terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 18 2014,09:38) Hi t,
So loving God means you do not have to obey Him and you will be saved from His wrath?
Is this another gospel? Gal1
Nyou seem having a hard time to understand what i was saying ;
how could you LOVE SOMEONE AND NOT AT THE SAME TIME PLEASING HIM
WITH WHAT EVER HE ASK ;
IS IT THAT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND
May 19, 2014 at 6:56 pm#382941terraricca
ParticipantN
obeying is not loving ;just as loving is not obeying ;
love produce a true respond to other love and so perfection is accomplished
May 20, 2014 at 11:52 pm#383207terraricca
Participantdid you understand this Nick
May 29, 2014 at 5:40 am#385316terraricca
Participantwho will judge us ;
Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”according to those verses spoken by the son of God it is the true knowledge of God that will judge us and all according of our own choice and so WE become our very own JUDGE
THIS IS WHAT JESUS SAYS ;May 29, 2014 at 7:30 am#385336Wakeup
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ May 29 2014,16:40) who will judge us ; Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”according to those verses spoken by the son of God it is the true knowledge of God that will judge us and all according of our own choice and so WE become our very own JUDGE
THIS IS WHAT JESUS SAYS ;
Our own works will judge us,and Jesus makes the decision
Who works are evil. He is the referee.wakeup.
May 29, 2014 at 7:42 am#385343terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ May 29 2014,13:30) Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2014,16:40) who will judge us ; Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”according to those verses spoken by the son of God it is the true knowledge of God that will judge us and all according of our own choice and so WE become our very own JUDGE
THIS IS WHAT JESUS SAYS ;
Our own works will judge us,and Jesus makes the decision
Who works are evil. He is the referee.wakeup.
wwrong ,Christ as to do nothing ;it is his teaching (truth)that will condemn us ;were we will be judged we will not able to lie ,and so our conscience will condemn us ,for what we have done or not done that we should of and could ,
that is what those scriptures are saying
May 29, 2014 at 8:00 am#385351Wakeup
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ May 29 2014,18:42) Quote (Wakeup @ May 29 2014,13:30) Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2014,16:40) who will judge us ; Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”according to those verses spoken by the son of God it is the true knowledge of God that will judge us and all according of our own choice and so WE become our very own JUDGE
THIS IS WHAT JESUS SAYS ;
Our own works will judge us,and Jesus makes the decision
Who works are evil. He is the referee.wakeup.
wwrong ,Christ as to do nothing ;it is his teaching (truth)that will condemn us ;were we will be judged we will not able to lie ,and so our conscience will condemn us ,for what we have done or not done that we should of and could ,
that is what those scriptures are saying
This is what the scripture is saying.
Not what you are saying.Matthew 25:32 And before *HIM* shall be gathered all nations: and *HE SHALL* separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Matthew 25:33 And *HE SHALL* set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
wakeup.
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