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  • #380719
    NickHassan
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    Hi WU,
    He was here a long time earlier if you read Genesis and Job 1-3.
    But has he been thrown out of heaven yet?

    #380721
    terraricca
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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 06 2014,05:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2014,01:16)
    all

    here is something to shew on ;

    REV 12:12 “For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.”

    this scripture tells who is making the problems on the earth at the end time ;and why


    T.

    Yes; the devil has come down to earth since Jesus resurrection.
    Woe to the earth,especially the churches,for he has come in, and has corrupted the churches, and all so called christians with no knowledge,just empty words.
    For they have been led astray.
    My people have been destroyed because of lack of knowledge. They have been fed with strange flesh.

    wakeup.


    wup

    this verse does not talk about teachings to be let ashtray ,but about violence ,catastrophic events, ect

    similar to what Job when through

    #380813
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2014,11:08)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 06 2014,05:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2014,01:16)
    all

    here is something to shew on ;

    REV 12:12 “For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.”

    this scripture tells who is making the problems on the earth at the end time ;and why


    T.

    Yes; the devil has come down to earth since Jesus resurrection.
    Woe to the earth,especially the churches,for he has come in, and has corrupted the churches, and all so called christians with no knowledge,just empty words.
    For they have been led astray.
    My people have been destroyed because of lack of knowledge. They have been fed with strange flesh.

    wakeup.


    wup

    this verse does not talk about teachings to be let ashtray ,but about violence ,catastrophic events, ect

    similar to what Job when through


    T.

    You are really underestimating satan.
    He is the king of Babylon;and his princes with him.
    The first thing he did was to corrupt EVE.
    Now all that seek to worship God is his main target.

    He has corrupted the teachings of God.
    He has devided the church of God into thousands of
    denominations; and you can not see?
    Open the spiritual eyes of understanding.
    His strategy has always been; divide and conquer.

    wakeup.

    #380834
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    The divided church is of the world, not of God.

    #380993
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2014,05:33)
    Hi WU,
    The divided church is of the world, not of God.


    Nick.

    OH Really?
    Waw, never thought of that.
    You learn something everyday.

    wakeup.

    #380998
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    So pay it as much attention as it deserves.
    none

    #381000
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2014,11:08)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 06 2014,05:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2014,01:16)
    all

    here is something to shew on ;

    REV 12:12 “For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.”

    this scripture tells who is making the problems on the earth at the end time ;and why


    T.

    Yes; the devil has come down to earth since Jesus resurrection.
    Woe to the earth,especially the churches,for he has come in, and has corrupted the churches, and all so called christians with no knowledge,just empty words.
    For they have been led astray.
    My people have been destroyed because of lack of knowledge. They have been fed with strange flesh.

    wakeup.


    wup

    this verse does not talk about teachings to be let ashtray ,but about violence ,catastrophic events, ect

    similar to what Job when through


    T.

    Well done Terra some one will say.
    Satan has nothing to do with false doctrine.
    And the false prophets has nothing to do with him.
    The son of perdition has nothing to do with being satan's son.
    Satan is only concerned with wars.

    Woe to the earth only concerning wars;
    nothing to do with false doctrine.

    You have done very well my servant; he will say.

    wakeup.

    #381061
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    2.2 Peter 2:1
    But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

    #381204
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 07 2014,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2014,11:08)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 06 2014,05:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2014,01:16)
    all

    here is something to shew on ;

    REV 12:12 “For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.”

    this scripture tells who is making the problems on the earth at the end time ;and why


    T.

    Yes; the devil has come down to earth since Jesus resurrection.
    Woe to the earth,especially the churches,for he has come in, and has corrupted the churches, and all so called christians with no knowledge,just empty words.
    For they have been led astray.
    My people have been destroyed because of lack of knowledge. They have been fed with strange flesh.

    wakeup.


    wup

    this verse does not talk about teachings to be let ashtray ,but about violence ,catastrophic events, ect

    similar to what Job when through


    T.

    Well done Terra some one will say.
    Satan has nothing to do with false doctrine.
    And the false prophets has nothing to do with him.
    The son of perdition has nothing to do with being satan's son.
    Satan is only concerned with wars.

    Woe to the earth only concerning wars;
    nothing to do with false doctrine.

    You have done very well my servant; he will say.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup

    I just point out what scriptures are saying , you seem to go your way , and try to drag others into your views , it cannot work for those that know the scriptures and trust in God ,

    I have already given my view to you about the false prophet and Babylon the great ,

    I feel you are still confused about them,

    #381272
    Wakeup
    Participant

    T.

    Believe me,that satan has not left one stone unturned,
    Since the garden.
    He has corrupted anything of God on this earth.
    He also has destoyed mens moral,and conscience.
    He has caused divisions amongst God's people.
    This is the reason why we need the knowledge,to resist him.

    Knowledge delivers us from the evil one.
    Jesus used his knowledge of the scriptures to resist satan.

    wakeup.

    #381273
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 08 2014,15:10)
    T.

    Believe me,that satan has not left one stone unturned,
    Since the garden.
    He has corrupted anything of God on this earth.
    He also has destoyed mens moral,and conscience.
    He has caused divisions amongst God's people.
    This is the reason why we need the knowledge,to resist him.

    Knowledge delivers us from the evil one.
    Jesus used his knowledge of the scriptures to resist satan.

    wakeup.


    wp

    sorry,but I have to disagree with you ,you really do not have any scriptures backup for your claim

    #381275
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Lk 4
    4 Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led around [a]by the Spirit in the wilderness 2 for forty days, being tempted by the devil. And He ate nothing during those days, and when they had ended, He became hungry. 3 And the devil said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread.” 4 And Jesus answered him, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live on bread alone.’”

    5 And he led Him up and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said to Him, “I will give You all this domain and [c]its glory; for it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 Therefore if You [d]worship before me, it shall all be Yours.” 8 Jesus answered him, “It is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.’”

    9 And he led Him to Jerusalem and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down from here; 10 for it is written,

    ‘He will command His angels concerning You to guard You,’
    11 and,

    ‘On their hands they will bear You up,
    So that You will not strike Your foot against a stone.’”
    12 And Jesus answered and said to him, “It is said, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’”

    Clearly there are deeper truths as Jesus showed

    #381277
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Jesus could have called on legions of angels to rescue him but chose to show that weakness is strength.

    #381278
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    God's power shows up best in weak people

    #381293
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ May 08 2014,20:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 08 2014,15:10)
    T.

    Believe me,that satan has not left one stone unturned,
    Since the garden.
    He has corrupted anything of God on this earth.
    He also has destoyed mens moral,and conscience.
    He has caused divisions amongst God's people.
    This is the reason why we need the knowledge,to resist him.

    Knowledge delivers us from the evil one.
    Jesus used his knowledge of the scriptures to resist satan.

    wakeup.


    wp

    sorry,but I have to disagree with you ,you really do not have any scriptures backup for your claim


    T.

    I have no objections if you disagree.
    It is your right to disagree.
    But I like to hear the reasons for your disagreement.

    wakeup.

    #381318
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    1 Corinthians 2:8
    Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

    Choosing weakness as strength blindsided satan

    Results
    1.Matthew 21:38
    But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.

    #381378
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,15:35)
    Hi,
    God's power shows up best in weak people


    N

    show me what the scriptures says about this ??? will you

    #381379
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 08 2014,20:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 08 2014,20:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 08 2014,15:10)
    T.

    Believe me,that satan has not left one stone unturned,
    Since the garden.
    He has corrupted anything of God on this earth.
    He also has destoyed mens moral,and conscience.
    He has caused divisions amongst God's people.
    This is the reason why we need the knowledge,to resist him.

    Knowledge delivers us from the evil one.
    Jesus used his knowledge of the scriptures to resist satan.

    wakeup.


    wp

    sorry,but I have to disagree with you ,you really do not have any scriptures backup for your claim


    T.

    I have no objections if you disagree.
    It is your right to disagree.
    But I like to hear the reasons for your disagreement.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    it is not the knowledge alone that will protect us ;scriptures is clear about that ;

    Satan cannot freely do what he wants the book of Job is also clear about that,

    and Satan did not corrupt all things one earth because at all time there have been true believers ,if it was not so then he Satan would have won his wager /that he can turn all men to himself and away from God .

    #381380
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,
    2 Corinthians 13:4
    For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.

    2 Corinthians 13:9
    For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.

    Hebrews 11:34
    Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.

    #381381
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hit,
    2cor 12
    8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.

    9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

    10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

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