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Quote (Wakeup @ July 24 2012,05:05) Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,04:06) While it may be difficult for some of you to understand, that doesn’t mean that others don't understand. Maybe you should try other parts of the book that aren’t so difficult. Ed j has chosen a difficult part for his own reasons.
try this:
Colter
Colter.Jesus is THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD,and without him was not anything made that was made.Everything was made by the word of God; by the breath of his mouth.
He came to earth to bring light to the world,there is none before him and there is none after him.he is the first and the last,the Alpha and omega.
The Holy bible is thousands of years old and Jesus did mention Adam,Enoch,Noah,Abraham,David, he never mentioned the book of urantia which is just a recent book written by an unknown creature. I suspect him to be satan himself, for it is contraditory to the preaching of the son of God.(The word himself).
Jesus preaching is focused on this earth(mankind) not the universe.
I can see this coming: first it was all about communism,then all about terrorism, and now it is all about aliens,the aliens are coming.
Watch for the great delusion coming.
wakeup.
Quote The Holy bible is thousands of years old and Jesus did mention Adam,Enoch,Noah,Abraham,David, he never mentioned the book of urantia which is just a recent book written by an unknown creature. I suspect him to be satan himself, for it is contraditory to the preaching of the son of God. Jesus didn't mention “The Book of Revelation” either; your reasoning is shallow and flawed….in fact he didn't mention Paul or ANY of the NT books!
Do you suspect the Satan God wrote The Book of Revelation? Its very different then Jesus' nature.
Colter
Quote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,05:28) I did read it.
I've read the Bible, and the other books which were once part of the cannon, there are glaring distortions of history in there that I do not believe. They misrepresent the Father. Jesus revealed the Father, and in so doing proved the dim view of God in the OT was a narrow, man made understanding of God. There is no greater understanding of God then in the life of Jesus.I believe in God and relate to him in the same way Jesus taught and lived.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,05:31) Quote (Wakeup @ July 24 2012,05:05) Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,04:06) While it may be difficult for some of you to understand, that doesn’t mean that others don't understand. Maybe you should try other parts of the book that aren’t so difficult. Ed j has chosen a difficult part for his own reasons.
try this:
Colter
Colter.Jesus is THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD,and without him was not anything made that was made.Everything was made by the word of God; by the breath of his mouth.
He came to earth to bring light to the world,there is none before him and there is none after him.he is the first and the last,the Alpha and omega.
The Holy bible is thousands of years old and Jesus did mention Adam,Enoch,Noah,Abraham,David, he never mentioned the book of urantia which is just a recent book written by an unknown creature. I suspect him to be satan himself, for it is contraditory to the preaching of the son of God.(The word himself).
Jesus preaching is focused on this earth(mankind) not the universe.
I can see this coming: first it was all about communism,then all about terrorism, and now it is all about aliens,the aliens are coming.
Watch for the great delusion coming.
wakeup.
Quote The Holy bible is thousands of years old and Jesus did mention Adam,Enoch,Noah,Abraham,David, he never mentioned the book of urantia which is just a recent book written by an unknown creature. I suspect him to be satan himself, for it is contraditory to the preaching of the son of God. Jesus didn't mention “The Book of Revelation” either; your reasoning is shallow and flawed….in fact he didn't mention Paul or ANY of the NT books!
Do you suspect the Satan God wrote The Book of Revelation? Its very different then Jesus' nature.
Colter
Colter.What is the problem between you and the Holy bible?
Is there a thick wall or something?Rev.1:1. The revelation of JESUS CHRIST,which God gave unto him——–
And what about mathew ch.24. is that not a prophesy by jesus about the end time and his coming?And what about the sermon of the mount; you think those fisherman could have written that?
wakeup.
wakeup.
Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,12:37) Quote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,05:28) I did read it.
I've read the Bible, and the other books which were once part of the cannon, there are glaring distortions of history in there that I do not believe. They misrepresent the Father. Jesus revealed the Father, and in so doing proved the dim view of God in the OT was a narrow, man made understanding of God. There is no greater understanding of God then in the life of Jesus.I believe in God and relate to him in the same way Jesus taught and lived.
Colter
colterQuote I've read the Bible, and the other books which were once part of the cannon, there are glaring distortions of history in there that I do not believe. They misrepresent the Father. Jesus revealed the Father, and in so doing proved the dim view of God in the OT was a narrow, man made understanding of God. There is no greater understanding of God then in the life of Jesus. would this mean that the ones that wrote the UB book were with Christ when he was a live
Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,07:07) Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,12:37) Quote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,05:28) I did read it.
I've read the Bible, and the other books which were once part of the cannon, there are glaring distortions of history in there that I do not believe. They misrepresent the Father. Jesus revealed the Father, and in so doing proved the dim view of God in the OT was a narrow, man made understanding of God. There is no greater understanding of God then in the life of Jesus.I believe in God and relate to him in the same way Jesus taught and lived.
Colter
colterQuote I've read the Bible, and the other books which were once part of the cannon, there are glaring distortions of history in there that I do not believe. They misrepresent the Father. Jesus revealed the Father, and in so doing proved the dim view of God in the OT was a narrow, man made understanding of God. There is no greater understanding of God then in the life of Jesus. would this mean that the ones that wrote the UB book were with Christ when he was a live
Do you even read my post? The UB claims to be written by celestial beings some of whom WERE IN FACT on the earth when Jesus was here.Colter
Quote Colter. What is the problem between you and the Holy bible?
Is there a thick wall or something?Rev.1:1. The revelation of JESUS CHRIST,which God gave unto him——–
And what about mathew ch.24. is that not a prophesy by jesus about the end time and his coming?And what about the sermon of the mount; you think those fisherman could have written that?
I know that Bible was written by men, it contains varying qualities of truth. Nothing complicated about it.
You seem to miss my points often, You said Jesus didn't mention the coming of the UB…..well he didn't mention the coming of the NT books either, they began roughly 50 years after Jesus left, so had you been around then the same argument would have rejected the NT books.
Mattew 24 started out with Jesus predicting the destruction of Jerusalem which did in fact happen, then those teachings were distorted and an end times bit was added.
This world won’t end; it will be transformed by the original gospel perhaps after primitive Christianity fades away.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,14:40) Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,07:07) Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,12:37) Quote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,05:28) I did read it.
I've read the Bible, and the other books which were once part of the cannon, there are glaring distortions of history in there that I do not believe. They misrepresent the Father. Jesus revealed the Father, and in so doing proved the dim view of God in the OT was a narrow, man made understanding of God. There is no greater understanding of God then in the life of Jesus.I believe in God and relate to him in the same way Jesus taught and lived.
Colter
colterQuote I've read the Bible, and the other books which were once part of the cannon, there are glaring distortions of history in there that I do not believe. They misrepresent the Father. Jesus revealed the Father, and in so doing proved the dim view of God in the OT was a narrow, man made understanding of God. There is no greater understanding of God then in the life of Jesus. would this mean that the ones that wrote the UB book were with Christ when he was a live
Do you even read my post? The UB claims to be written by celestial beings some of whom WERE IN FACT on the earth when Jesus was here.Colter
colterso this book 'UB' is part of the collection of ;Joseph smith (mormon)and
Muhammad (Koran )
those are tree revelation
???Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,07:51) Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,14:40) Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,07:07) Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,12:37) Quote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,05:28) I did read it.
I've read the Bible, and the other books which were once part of the cannon, there are glaring distortions of history in there that I do not believe. They misrepresent the Father. Jesus revealed the Father, and in so doing proved the dim view of God in the OT was a narrow, man made understanding of God. There is no greater understanding of God then in the life of Jesus.I believe in God and relate to him in the same way Jesus taught and lived.
Colter
colterQuote I've read the Bible, and the other books which were once part of the cannon, there are glaring distortions of history in there that I do not believe. They misrepresent the Father. Jesus revealed the Father, and in so doing proved the dim view of God in the OT was a narrow, man made understanding of God. There is no greater understanding of God then in the life of Jesus. would this mean that the ones that wrote the UB book were with Christ when he was a live
Do you even read my post? The UB claims to be written by celestial beings some of whom WERE IN FACT on the earth when Jesus was here.Colter
colterso this book 'UB' is part of the collection of ;Joseph smith (mormon)and
Muhammad (Koran )
those are tree revelation
???
No, there is no connection whatsoever.Colter
Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,15:00) Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,07:51) Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,14:40) Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,07:07) Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,12:37) Quote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,05:28) I did read it.
I've read the Bible, and the other books which were once part of the cannon, there are glaring distortions of history in there that I do not believe. They misrepresent the Father. Jesus revealed the Father, and in so doing proved the dim view of God in the OT was a narrow, man made understanding of God. There is no greater understanding of God then in the life of Jesus.I believe in God and relate to him in the same way Jesus taught and lived.
Colter
colterQuote I've read the Bible, and the other books which were once part of the cannon, there are glaring distortions of history in there that I do not believe. They misrepresent the Father. Jesus revealed the Father, and in so doing proved the dim view of God in the OT was a narrow, man made understanding of God. There is no greater understanding of God then in the life of Jesus. would this mean that the ones that wrote the UB book were with Christ when he was a live
Do you even read my post? The UB claims to be written by celestial beings some of whom WERE IN FACT on the earth when Jesus was here.Colter
colterso this book 'UB' is part of the collection of ;Joseph smith (mormon)and
Muhammad (Koran )
those are tree revelation
???
No, there is no connection whatsoever.Colter
colter
they all have the same purpose ;annihilate the bible how can the people that have written those books claim truth of God if the book that is the words of God is denied in it ;2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
only Satan as that obsesion and of cause his servants
Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,07:49) Quote Colter. What is the problem between you and the Holy bible?
Is there a thick wall or something?Rev.1:1. The revelation of JESUS CHRIST,which God gave unto him——–
And what about mathew ch.24. is that not a prophesy by jesus about the end time and his coming?And what about the sermon of the mount; you think those fisherman could have written that?
I know that Bible was written by men, it contains varying qualities of truth. Nothing complicated about it.
You seem to miss my points often, You said Jesus didn't mention the coming of the UB…..well he didn't mention the coming of the NT books either, they began roughly 50 years after Jesus left, so had you been around then the same argument would have rejected the NT books.
Mattew 24 started out with Jesus predicting the destruction of Jerusalem which did in fact happen, then those teachings were distorted and an end times bit was added.
This world won’t end; it will be transformed by the original gospel perhaps after primitive Christianity fades away.
Colter
Says who Colter? says the ub?
And you have fallen for it.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 24 2012,09:29) Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,07:49) Quote Colter. What is the problem between you and the Holy bible?
Is there a thick wall or something?Rev.1:1. The revelation of JESUS CHRIST,which God gave unto him——–
And what about mathew ch.24. is that not a prophesy by jesus about the end time and his coming?And what about the sermon of the mount; you think those fisherman could have written that?
I know that Bible was written by men, it contains varying qualities of truth. Nothing complicated about it.
You seem to miss my points often, You said Jesus didn't mention the coming of the UB…..well he didn't mention the coming of the NT books either, they began roughly 50 years after Jesus left, so had you been around then the same argument would have rejected the NT books.
Mattew 24 started out with Jesus predicting the destruction of Jerusalem which did in fact happen, then those teachings were distorted and an end times bit was added.
This world won’t end; it will be transformed by the original gospel perhaps after primitive Christianity fades away.
Colter
Says who Colter? says the ub?
And you have fallen for it.wakeup.
…..and for 2000 years Christians have been saying that Jesus was coming soon. Somone was wrong werent thay?Colter
In further answer to Peter’s question, Jesus said: “Why do you still look for the Son of Man to sit upon the throne of David and expect that the material dreams of the Jews will be fulfilled? Have I not told you all these years that my kingdom is not of this world? The things which you now look down upon are coming to an end, but this will be a new beginning out of which the gospel of the kingdom will go to all the world and this salvation will spread to all peoples. And when the kingdom shall have come to its full fruition, be assured that the Father in heaven will not fail to visit you with an enlarged revelation of truth and an enhanced demonstration of righteousness, even as he has already bestowed upon this world him who became the prince of darkness, and then Adam, who was followed by Melchizedek, and in these days, the Son of Man. And so will my Father continue to manifest his mercy and show forth his love, even to this dark and evil world. So also will I, after my Father has invested me with all power and authority, continue to follow your fortunes and to guide in the affairs of the kingdom by the presence of my spirit, who shall shortly be poured out upon all flesh. Even though I shall thus be present with you in spirit, I also promise that I will sometime return to this world, where I have lived this life in the flesh and achieved the experience of simultaneously revealing God to man and leading man to God. Very soon must I leave you and take up the work the Father has intrusted to my hands, but be of good courage, for I will sometime return. In the meantime, my Spirit of the Truth of a universe shall comfort and guide you.
Colter
Hi Colter,
I guess no one told the Urantia writers that Melchizedek was Shem. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,11:22) Hi Colter, I guess no one told the Urantia writers that Melchizedek was Shem. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
LOL! what a “Sham”
Question Ed, who wrote Genesis?
Colter
After Melchizedek’s Departure
(1022.4) 93:9.1 It was a great trial for Abraham when Melchizedek so suddenly disappeared. Although he had fully warned his followers that he must sometime go as he had come, they were not reconciled to the loss of their wonderful leader. The great organization built up at Salem nearly disappeared, though the traditions of these days were what Moses built upon when he led the Hebrew slaves out of Egypt.
(1022.5) 93:9.2 The loss of Melchizedek produced a sadness in the heart of Abraham that he never fully overcame. Hebron he had abandoned when he gave up the ambition of building a material kingdom; and now, upon the loss of his associate in the building of the spiritual kingdom, he departed from Salem, going south to live near his interests at Gerar.
(1022.6) 93:9.3 Abraham became fearful and timid immediately after the disappearance of Melchizedek. He withheld his identity upon arrival at Gerar, so that Abimelech appropriated his wife. (Shortly after his marriage to Sarah, Abraham one night had overheard a plot to murder him in order to get his brilliant wife. This dread became a terror to the otherwise brave and daring leader; all his life he feared that someone would kill him secretly in order to get Sarah. And this explains why, on three separate occasions, this brave man exhibited real cowardice.)
(1023.1) 93:9.4 But Abraham was not long to be deterred in his mission as the successor of Melchizedek. Soon he made converts among the Philistines and of Abimelech’s people, made a treaty with them, and, in turn, became contaminated with many of their superstitions, particularly with their practice of sacrificing first-born sons. Thus did Abraham again become a great leader in Palestine. He was held in reverence by all groups and honored by all kings. He was the spiritual leader of all the surrounding tribes, and his influence continued for some time after his death. During the closing years of his life he once more returned to Hebron, the scene of his earlier activities and the place where he had worked in association with Melchizedek. Abraham’s last act was to send trusty servants to the city of his brother, Nahor, on the border of Mesopotamia, to secure a woman of his own people as a wife for his son Isaac. It had long been the custom of Abraham’s people to marry their cousins. And Abraham died confident in that faith in God which he had learned from Melchizedek in the vanished schools of Salem.
(1023.2) 93:9.5 It was hard for the next generation to comprehend the story of Melchizedek; within five hundred years many regarded the whole narrative as a myth. Isaac held fairly well to the teachings of his father and nourished the gospel of the Salem colony, but it was harder for Jacob to grasp the significance of these traditions. Joseph was a firm believer in Melchizedek and was, largely because of this, regarded by his brothers as a dreamer. Joseph’s honor in Egypt was chiefly due to the memory of his great-grandfather Abraham. Joseph was offered military command of the Egyptian armies, but being such a firm believer in the traditions of Melchizedek and the later teachings of Abraham and Isaac, he elected to serve as a civil administrator, believing that he could thus better labor for the advancement of the kingdom of heaven.
(1023.3) 93:9.6 The teaching of Melchizedek was full and replete, but the records of these days seemed impossible and fantastic to the later Hebrew priests, although many had some understanding of these transactions, at least up to the times of the en masse editing of the Old Testament records in Babylon.
(1023.4) 93:9.7 What the Old Testament records describe as conversations between Abraham and God were in reality conferences between Abraham and Melchizedek. Later scribes regarded the term Melchizedek as synonymous with God. The record of so many contacts of Abraham and Sarah with “the angel of the Lord” refers to their numerous visits with Melchizedek.
(1023.5) 93:9.8 The Hebrew narratives of Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph are far more reliable than those about Abraham, although they also contain many diversions from the facts, alterations made intentionally and unintentionally at the time of the compilation of these records by the Hebrew priests during the Babylonian captivity. Keturah was not a wife of Abraham; like Hagar, she was merely a concubine. All of Abraham’s property went to Isaac, the son of Sarah, the status wife. Abraham was not so old as the records indicate, and his wife was much younger. These ages were deliberately altered in order to provide for the subsequent alleged miraculous birth of Isaac.
(1023.6) 93:9.9 The national ego of the Jews was tremendously depressed by the Babylonian captivity. In their reaction against national inferiority they swung to the other extreme of national and racial egotism, in which they distorted and perverted their traditions with the view of exalting themselves above all races as the chosen people of God; and hence they carefully edited all their records for the purpose of raising Abraham and their other national leaders high up above all other persons, not excepting Melchizedek himself. The Hebrew scribes therefore destroyed every record of these momentous times which they could find, preserving only the narrative of the meeting of Abraham and Melchizedek after the battle of Siddim, which they deemed reflected great honor upon Abraham.
(1024.1) 93:9.10 And thus, in losing sight of Melchizedek, they also lost sight of the teaching of this emergency Son regarding the spiritual mission of the promised bestowal Son; lost sight of the nature of this mission so fully and completely that very few of their progeny were able or willing to recognize and receive Michael when he appeared on earth and in the flesh as Machiventa had foretold.
Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,11:49) Quote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,11:22) Hi Colter, I guess no one told the Urantia writers that Melchizedek was Shem. (Link)
God bless
Ed J
LOL! what a “Sham” Colter
Hi Colter,Did you not know that Melchizedek was Shem?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Colter @ July 24 2012,11:49) Question Ed, who wrote Genesis?
Hi Colter,Moses
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,11:59) Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,11:49) Question Ed, who wrote Genesis?
Hi Colter,Moses
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
That is the opinion of a guy named Dr. Charles Jennings who is still trying to make the redactions work.Colter
Quote (Ed J @ July 24 2012,11:59) Quote (Colter @ July 24 2012,11:49) Question Ed, who wrote Genesis?
Hi Colter,Moses
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
wrong!, Moses predates the Hebrew language by 500 years and narrating his own funeral would be odd.One would also wonder what “scripture” books were being used befor Exodus?
Colter
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