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Quote (bodhitharta @ April 12 2010,18:44) The Quran does not reject Christ it upholds Christ it is those who make Jesus God that are anti-christ!
I used to say exactly the same thing to people. But now I know the truth, I could never see Him as anything less than the Son of God, the Creator of the World is what He is. Which is why I would never ever go back to Islam.Quote Anyone who lies about the Quran is lying about the truth of God and His Holy Angels and His Holy Servants. Ed is a false witness so if you wish be punished along side of this false witness.
I realize now that you may be one of those lost shep that despite how hard it is to bring you into the fold you may not make it. I desperately want you to make it but you may not be determined to see the truth.
Thankyou for your concern Bod. But im ok, I dont follow Ed as a 'witness', I was just saying that its His posts and the way He puts together verses and colours which to me were really sort of hypnotising in a way I cant explain and how nice He is which pulled me out of any doubts I had at the time between Islam and Christianity. The crucifixion, etc, all of which I was starting to doubt. If Ed hadnt been here, nothing would of helped, and im gratefull for that. I just wish you would follow. So lets stop talking about Ed, ok? Please? Be nice.Kar,
Dont be hypnotised by anyone – even if you meant it casually.
If yuo allow it then you are under their power – then Satan will exploit your vulnerability.I am happy if Edj's number helped you to see truth but they are unrealiable and don't actually (At this time) reveal anything that we didn't already know.
After all – What of it if Psalm 117 is the middle of the Bible and the smallest chapter and equates to God's name.
My own (Real Name) equates to “Lord Jesus Christ” – is that significant? I think not.Do you want to believe in Falability (EDJ – Shows us how to overcome the numbers that FAIL the test – then We will believe!)
Satan will bring you light (Which is knowledge) – it is not beyond his power, ney, he was party to God creating ALL things and was one of the Covering Angel of god's Holy Seat, privilege of only the Highest TWO (Significant?) Angels in Heaven – wonderful in all his ways – Perfect, until sin was found in him.
He sees that you are vulnerable to certain things and gifts them to you as revelation – then Covers you and draws over to the Dark Side – Beware his Force (I gotta use that again 'Beware the Force, Lu!”)
Lucky for me I can write computer script to erase his number before displaying them on my screen because they annoy me – Constanly repeated and renders badly on my mobile which I use a lot. Adds nothing to the discussion and distract from Godly essance – altogether B-A-D.
Edj, Confine your numbers to your footer, please – if you love us – set us free from your numbers – let them speak for themselves, don't speak for them (Understand what that means?)
Edj, There is meaning in your numbers, I have said so before – I am not dissing you for nothing – but you over use them.
Quote (JustAskin @ April 12 2010,22:18) Kar,
Dont be hypnotised by anyone – even if you meant it casually.
If yuo allow it then you are under their power – then Satan will exploit your vulnerability.I am happy if Edj's number helped you to see truth but they are unrealiable and don't actually (At this time) reveal anything that we didn't already know.
After all – What of it if Psalm 117 is the middle of the Bible and the smallest chapter and equates to God's name.
My own (Real Name) equates to “Lord Jesus Christ” – is that significant? I think not.Do you want to believe in Falability (EDJ – Shows us how to overcome the numbers that FAIL the test – then We will believe!)
Satan will bring you light (Which is knowledge) – it is not beyond his power, ney, he was party to God creating ALL things and was one of the Covering Angel of god's Holy Seat, privilege of only the Highest TWO (Significant?) Angels in Heaven – wonderful in all his ways – Perfect, until sin was found in him.
He sees that you are vulnerable to certain things and gifts them to you as revelation – then Covers you and draws over to the Dark Side – Beware his Force (I gotta use that again 'Beware the Force, Lu!”)
Lucky for me I can write computer script to erase his number before displaying them on my screen because they annoy me – Constanly repeated and renders badly on my mobile which I use a lot. Adds nothing to the discussion and distract from Godly essance – altogether B-A-D.
Edj, Confine your numbers to your footer, please – if you love us – set us free from your numbers – let them speak for themselves, don't speak for them (Understand what that means?)
Edj, There is meaning in your numbers, I have said so before – I am not dissing you for nothing – but you over use them.
Hi JustAskin,On Page 54 you ask (in essence) 'what can be learned from numbers'?
And In the next few Posts (to BD) on Page 54 there is much for you to learn; (Click Here)
but you disappeared only to reappear again on Page 61 with NOTHING LEARNED and 'only criticism'!
Is this the “Christian way” that you have learned from reading 'your' Bible, JustAskin(Matt.7:1-5)? Think about it!AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 54:17
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDJ,
I am not interested in your number UNLESS you can show value. That is what I said – That Is what I mean.I state that I see something but you have not made it palitable – therefore I reject it.
I say – SHOW ME – I keep saying it. Disappear – noon reads all posts – Send me an email if you need to show me something special and it looks like I have missed it.
I can scrub the number from your posts but I prefer for you to be retract them until you can formulate them properly and show they reap edible fruit – right now some are green and acidic and others are over-ripe and should be removed before they affect the branch, trunk and root (The message you are aiming at showing and their source of authority!)
Sound harsh – you bet!
Quote (JustAskin @ April 13 2010,00:51) EDJ,
I am not interested in your number UNLESS you can show value. That is what I said – That Is what I mean.I state that I see something but you have not made it palitable – therefore I reject it.
I say – SHOW ME – I keep saying it. Disappear – noon reads all posts – Send me an email if you need to show me something special and it looks like I have missed it.
I can scrub the number from your posts but I prefer for you to be retract them until you can formulate them properly and show they reap edible fruit – right now some are green and acidic and others are over-ripe and should be removed(Matt.7:1-5) before they affect the branch, trunk and root (The message you are aiming at showing and their source of authority!)
(1.A. at bottom) Sound harsh – you bet!
Hi JustAskin,People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understand “BIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
The God Numbers=151 are: 26, 63, 74, 117 & 151; and these numbers help to establish “Bible Truth”=117!You still haven't gone back to page 54 to read my last “Four” Posts on that Page; did you?
Prob.18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.Prob.25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing(such as Theomatics):
but the honor of kings (such as myself and others) is to search out a matter.
Eat=26 Fruit=74(1.A.) Gen. 2:16-17 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying,
Of every tree of the garden (including Ed J) thou (JustAskin) mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil(inside SELF), thou shalt not eat of it:
for in the day that thou eatest thereof (by continually overriding others) thou shalt surely die.JA and Ed, thanks. But getting back to it this discussion has gone way off what it was (again)….its not about Ed and that was just what I was (trying) to say…I dont know if im making the situation worse or better?
Quote There is nothing anyone can teach me here, I am the teacher but most will resist, haven't you resistd? Karmarie is being quite generous and kind with you. Move on BD. Self righteousness is of little value.
Hi POK.
What im trying to achieve here isnt working that well…im trying to get Bod to turn to Ed not against him but whenever I try, it seems to turn into a subject against Ed which is not quite what I was hoping would happen….sigh.
Quote (Ed J @ April 12 2010,16:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 12 2010,16:44) Ed is a false witness
John 15:18-21 If the world(A.K.A. BD) hate you(Ed J), ye know that it hated me(יהשוע) before it hated you(Ed J).
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye(Ed J) are not of the world,
but I(יהשוע) have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you(Ed J). Remember
the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me(יהשוע),
they(BD and the like) will also persecute you(Ed J); if they have kept my(יהשוע) saying, they will keep yours(Ed J) also.
But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him(יהוה) that sent me(יהשוע).
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How am I persecuting you ED?Aren't you the one persecuting me? I love God and ALL His revelations but you doubt the revelations of God IMO
Quote (karmarie @ April 12 2010,19:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 12 2010,18:39) Quote (karmarie @ April 12 2010,12:23) Hey Bod Yeah I agree I have fallen quite a bit in some ways and I couldnt see it. But its got nothing to do with what I believe in. Its other things which I somehow need to change.
I was looking back on older threads, in the days when you could post with believers, things were so different back then (example go back to the start of this thread). See how putting up walls and causing divisions changes things!
There was an opportunity for others to teach you and guide you. But look at it all now.. How can you learn when you cant even ask questions? Or if you do, only a few answer?
Did God intend it to be like that? I dont think so.
There is nothing anyone can teach me here, I am the teacher but most will resist, haven't you resistd?
Bod, what im trying to say is this: I dont believe it was fair that you got sent to another place on this forum, and I know im not alone in thinking that. I think thats why your really feeling like you are. I know its happened to you before, like the story you told on this forum about your experiences of Christians closing the door to you when you needed help, and Muslims opening the door when you needed it. I just want you to know that not all Christians are like that, its sad that you seem to have encountered only this. I know, iv experienced it myself too. But I also know that the truth is the truth, and if you can see through all of that and go deeper, God can show you what is behind it all, and He loves you and desires for you to trust in Him, the Bible is the Bible, no matter what opinions people may have of it, for each individual it means something different. If it says Jesus is the way the truth and the life, it is Him you are seeking to lead you.Your the teacher? Um ..Bod, this is a Christian website, I dont think youl have much luck teaching anyone here about Islam. You say I have resisted your teaching? I have learnt alot from you and im gratefull for that:) But I have one teacher when it comes to what is the truth and that is God.
Jesus pointed out very clearly who was our neighbor.I love you and you are my neighbor sometimes you seem to argue with me for reasons I don't understand.
If I question someone else is it really your position to defend them? Am I really being harsh to anyone or am I simply trying to make clear what is being said and believed.
Do you think I should let ED J say whatever nonsense he can muster up?
Quote (karmarie @ April 12 2010,20:31) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 12 2010,18:44) The Quran does not reject Christ it upholds Christ it is those who make Jesus God that are anti-christ!
I used to say exactly the same thing to people. But now I know the truth, I could never see Him as anything less than the Son of God, the Creator of the World is what He is. Which is why I would never ever go back to Islam.Quote Anyone who lies about the Quran is lying about the truth of God and His Holy Angels and His Holy Servants. Ed is a false witness so if you wish be punished along side of this false witness.
I realize now that you may be one of those lost shep that despite how hard it is to bring you into the fold you may not make it. I desperately want you to make it but you may not be determined to see the truth.
Thankyou for your concern Bod. But im ok, I dont follow Ed as a 'witness', I was just saying that its His posts and the way He puts together verses and colours which to me were really sort of hypnotising in a way I cant explain and how nice He is which pulled me out of any doubts I had at the time between Islam and Christianity. The crucifixion, etc, all of which I was starting to doubt. If Ed hadnt been here, nothing would of helped, and im gratefull for that. I just wish you would follow. So lets stop talking about Ed, ok? Please? Be nice.
Well no fancy colors for me just the Plain truth just like the fruit in the garden Satan made it seem more appealing than the regular fruit but guess what it turned out to be a bad choice so I hope not to see you go to hell because of hypnotizing fruit.
Quote (princess of the king @ April 13 2010,12:47) Quote There is nothing anyone can teach me here, I am the teacher but most will resist, haven't you resistd? Karmarie is being quite generous and kind with you. Move on BD. Self righteousness is of little value.
How can a non self be righteous? Don't be sillyQuote (bodhitharta @ April 13 2010,17:45) Jesus pointed out very clearly who was our neighbor. I love you and you are my neighbor sometimes you seem to argue with me for reasons I don't understand.
If I question someone else is it really your position to defend them? Am I really being harsh to anyone or am I simply trying to make clear what is being said and believed.
Do you think I should let ED J say whatever nonsense he can muster up?
Im sorry Bod, I'll try not to do that ok.Quote (bodhitharta @ April 13 2010,17:48) Well no fancy colors for me just the Plain truth just like the fruit in the garden Satan made it seem more appealing than the regular fruit but guess what it turned out to be a bad choice so I hope not to see you go to hell because of hypnotizing fruit.
Being 'hypnotised' was just a figure of speech. Not literal.Someone could read books or posts on a forum and try to understand but if theyre having doubts and hearing from others that certain things couldnt be (example the crucifixion), confusion can set in. But then different things help different people to get back to what they need to know!
I hope that makes sense, its been a long day?
EDJ,
I didn't mean that Truth should be removed – I wrote it wrong.I meant 'Remove it from your Posts' because you keep posting the same thing over and over in every post (virtually) – The message in your post is getting STALE.
Tell me, what happens to your pallete if you keep eating the same thing all the time. Does it not get 'stale' to the palette?
What happens when you keep looking at the same thing all the time – you become blind to it – fact. The brain needs stimulation, which means, Variation.Little and often, Edj, Little and often, not massive and constant – you will never convicne anyone that way – that way is called FORCING, Belief by Forceful Repetition.
What am I saying to you – That you CANNOT Prove your Numbers mean anything other than coincidence? Edj, Make the numbers work for you?
For instance, Construct a sentence entirely of your numbers that show the relationship of proof numbers.
If you have shown already that show me again – Here – Now! I did that from my own study – How is it you won't?Show, also where other numbers fit other words but are NOT formulaic – conforming to the formulae you use to decide which Words-Numbers are True or False.
Quote (JustAskin @ April 13 2010,22:36) EDJ, Construct a sentence entirely of your numbers that show the relationship of proof numbers.
If you have shown already that show me again – Here – Now! I did that from my own study – How is it you won't?Show, also where other numbers fit other words but are NOT formulaic – conforming to the formulae you use to decide which Words-Numbers are True or False.
Hi JustAskin,The “first” time God's Name (YHVH=63) is used in singular form (in the AKJV Bible) is Exodus 6:3.
Without the “The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) conforming to “Biblical Text”, THEY BECOME USELESS!I used “Color”=63, to help you (JustAskin) see “Bible Truth”=117.
The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
[“The Latter Rain“=151 and “former rain“=117] unto the earth.Gen.1:3 And [YHVH=63] said, Let there “be light“=63: and there was light.
Rev.21:23: And the [Holy City=117] had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it:
for the “glory“=77 of God (Christ=77) did lighten it, and the Lamb “is the light“=117 thereof.6823 is the 877th prime number in a long list of primes starting with two (2).
Now this might not seem significant until you realize that the number 877
is the 151st prime number. This number 151 shows “Unity” in Spirit.YHVH GOD is ONE=151 (Deut.6:4 / Eph.4:6)
1) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2 / Isaiah 26:4) (Old “Testament”=117)
2) LORD of Hosts=151…(AKJV Bible)…His Hosts=117: Jesus and ALL of His brethren! (Rev.11:15)
3) Holy Spirit=151 (“Father:The word“=151 structure of “GOD”: Old and New “Testament”=117)
4) Jesus Christ=151 (“Testator“=151) (Hebrews 9:16-17) (New “Testament”=117)“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ April 13 2010,23:26) Quote The “first” time God's Name (YHVH=63) is used in singular form (in the AKJV Bible) is Exodus 6:3. What about here?
And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.
Genesis 22:13-15You see, this is what I'm talking about now doesn't that take away your claim that 63 is valid in the way you say it is?
Quote Without the “The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) conforming to “Biblical Text”, THEY BECOME USELESS! Once again where are the words “The God Numbers” mentioned in biblical text?
In fact, what about this?
And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
1 Chronicles 21:1-3And David's heart smote him after that he had numbered the people. And David said unto the LORD, I have sinned greatly in that I have done: and now, I beseech thee, O LORD, take away the iniquity of thy servant; for I have done very foolishly.
2 Samuel 24:9-11Quote I used “Color”=63, to help you (JustAskin) see “Bible Truth”=117.
The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
[“The Latter Rain“=151 and “former rain“=117] unto the earth.demonic= 63 using your code is their a connection?
tares=63
But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Matthew 13:24-26It looks like I have something here, what do you think?
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Gen.1:3 And [YHVH=63] said, Let there “be light“=63: and there was light.what about Elohim=62 what does that mean?
Torah also =62
Quote Rev.21:23: And the [Holy City=117] had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it:
for the “glory“=77 of God (Christ=77) did lighten it, and the Lamb “is the light“=117 thereof.forbidden=77
Judaism=77
The big lie =77Made up bible code=117
Quote 6823 is the 877th prime number in a long list of primes starting with two (2).
Now this might not seem significant until you realize that the number 877
is the 151st prime number. This number 151 shows “Unity” in Spirit.151 is the 36th prime number,
Jewish tradition holds that the number 36 has had special significance since the beginning of time: According to the Midrash, the light created by God on the first day of creation shone for exactly 36 hours; it was replaced by the light of the Sun that was created on the Fourth Day.[7] The Torah commands 36 times to love, respect and protect the stranger.[7] Furthermore, in every generation there are 36 righteous people (the “Lamed Vav Tzadikim”) in whose merit the world continues to exist.[7] In the modern celebration of Hannukah, 36 candles are kindled in the menorah over the 8 days of that holiday (not including the shamash candle).[7]
36 is not listed in your numbers but it is really amazing isn't it?
My name is Asana=36 wow! Real=36
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YHVH GOD is ONE=151 (Deut.6:4 / Eph.4:6)
1) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2 / Isaiah 26:4) (Old “Testament”=117)
2) LORD of Hosts=151…(AKJV Bible)…His Hosts=117: Jesus and ALL of His brethren! (Rev.11:15)
3) Holy Spirit=151 (“Father:The word“=151 structure of “GOD”: Old and New “Testament”=117)
4) Jesus Christ=151 (“Testator“=151) (Hebrews 9:16-17) (New “Testament”=117)“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
What can you say from your heart or soul? Where is the love in your writing? You sound like a fortune cookie with the daily lottery number picks.
Who is ED J and what does he believe? How can he assist in sharing the love and belief of God?
How can ED J expand his mind and heart to share a more comprehensive view?
YHVH GOD is ONE=151
YHVH GOD is ALLAH = 151Jesus=74
Muhammad=74Either these all agree or your system is flawed. I say they agree, what do you say?
SIMPLE = 74
ENGLISH = 74
GEMATRIA = 74JESUS = 74
JEWISH = 74
MESSIAH = 74GOSPEL = 74
PARABLES = 74THE KEY = 74
THE LOCK = 74RULER = 74
THE KING = 74PARENT = 74
HAND OF GOD = 74
GREAT I AM = 74
GOD AND A MAN = 74HEAVENS = 74
CHARIOT = 74
CLOUDS = 74'And he was numbered with the transgressors.' (Luke 22:37),(Isaiah 53:12)
JESUS = 74
GREATER = 74
LUCIFER = 74
MUHAMMAD = 74CROSS = 74
FINISHED = 74
I AM SAVED = 74
YSHUA = 74
Quote (karmarie @ April 14 2010,12:12) SIMPLE = 74
ENGLISH = 74
GEMATRIA = 74JESUS = 74
JEWISH = 74
MESSIAH = 74GOSPEL = 74
PARABLES = 74THE KEY = 74
THE LOCK = 74RULER = 74
THE KING = 74PARENT = 74
HAND OF GOD = 74
GREAT I AM = 74
GOD AND A MAN = 74HEAVENS = 74
CHARIOT = 74
CLOUDS = 74'And he was numbered with the transgressors.' (Luke 22:37),(Isaiah 53:12)
JESUS = 74
GREATER = 74
LUCIFER = 74
MUHAMMAD = 74CROSS = 74
FINISHED = 74
I AM SAVED = 74
YSHUA = 74
So okay, let's play.Satans=74
Masonic=74
Occult=74Jesus=74
The Key=74Muhammad=74
The Lock=74Cross=74
error=74Fastened=74
Abomination=74Your turn. Karmarie, why continue to go down a path you have no sound reason to go down? You waver much, why be so double minded and why try to start a fight when you are not even a student of gematria or are you?
What do you really know about numerology and why study divination? You use to always talk about real issues like LOVE and GOD now you have been mesmerized by colorful and foolish demonstrations ED J should be ashamed at his effect on you.
You reject The Quran but accept THE OCCULT and DIVINATION as your guide now? Please stop playing with this quija board If you reject the Quran then do so for the sake of your devotion to the Gospel in the Bible not for some Math Magic that anyone can do.
I fear for you
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