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WJ,
My questions did not specify degrees andrequired no specification of such.Answer with the Holy Spirited truth if you believe that your Truth is Godly Truth.
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2010,09:01) Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 24 2010,19:41) No Nick, Jesus passed some of His authority to His apostles. The apostles are gone Nick. Nobody possesses Christ's authority today.
thinker
Well at least I can agree that you do not have Christ's authority. Christ never preached or taught the Trinity Doctrine.
Christ taught the trinity in a seed form if you will. “Baptizing them into the name (singular) of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.”You ignore that God's revelation was progressive. Christ did not teach justification by faith either. The apostle Paul did. So Paul likewise taught the trinity doctrine.
I would like to see you acquire some education in Biblical Hermeneutics. My guess is that you have no formal training in the principles of Biblical interpretation at all. Am I right?
thinker
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 26 2010,17:59) WJ,
My questions did not specify degrees andrequired no specification of such.Answer with the Holy Spirited truth if you believe that your Truth is Godly Truth.
JAThe truth is you should give the same honour to Jesus that you give to the Father (God). John 5:23
But you think that my statement is a “rhetoric”!
Blessings WJ
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 26 2010,17:59) WJ,
My questions did not specify degrees andrequired no specification of such.
But yet you say the Apostles worshipped Jesus to a certain degree and not as God?You are the one making the difference in the use of the word Worship (Proskeneo) in the scritpures.
We are not making any distinction!
WJ
WJ,
Is that what is writtenin the statement I wrote.You have no answer.
If you were a truthful person you would agree , not try to find nonesense ways to disagree.WJ,
Your untruthful spirit has taken you over.
SATAN has you as his servant.
You KNOW THAT YOU ARE BEING DECEPTIVE. YOU ARE NOT AN HONEST PERSON!
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 26 2010,18:49) WJ,
Is that what is writtenin the statement I wrote.You have no answer.
If you were a truthful person you would agree , not try to find nonesense ways to disagree.
JAI will never agree with your humanistic concept of Jesus being honoured, praised, glorified, recieving power and blessing like any other man.
Your little graphs and charts show nothing of the infinite Power and Authority our Lord and God is and has!
It is only Jesus and the Father in the throne in Revelation recieving those things without any indication there is a difference in degree and yes the Holy Spirit of God proceeds from them to all of creation! Rev 22:1-3
Blessings WJ
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 26 2010,18:51) WJ, Your untruthful spirit has taken you over.
SATAN has you as his servant.
You KNOW THAT YOU ARE BEING DECEPTIVE. YOU ARE NOT AN HONEST PERSON!
JAYour accusations mean nothing to me!
You are not my judge! You are merely acting like the accuser of the brethren!
WJ
WJ,
You are cracking up.You posts are even more wierd than I could ever imagine.
Where does the scriptures say to worship the Holy Spirit?
Also, I never ever said that Jesus was worshipped by his apostles.
I know what I believe and it doesn't conflict with what I say.
You are trying desparately to twist, like a Snake, out of the position you have got yourself in with me.
I asked you to be honest. Can you do that, WorshippingJesus?
WJ,
You are right, my accussations mean nothing.
“My Accussations” mean nothing. Let it be so, but beware the accussation of the Holy Spirit!Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 26 2010,19:05) WJ,
You are cracking up.You posts are even more wierd than I could ever imagine.
Where does the scriptures say to worship the Holy Spirit?
Also, I never ever said that Jesus was worshipped by his apostles.
I know what I believe and it doesn't conflict with what I say.
You are trying desparately to twist, like a Snake, out of the position you have got yourself in with me.
I asked you to be honest. Can you do that, WorshippingJesus?
JAI have been honest with you, but every time that Jack and myself show you truth you only make all kinds of accusations and spill poisen out of your mouth through condemning and patronizing words!
You say you don't worship Jesus but that you speak by the Holy Spirit.
Then why don't you follow the Holy Spirits examples that are inspired by him of the Apostles worshipping Jesus and Jesus not correcting them even though it is the same word “worship” Jesus used in John 4:24 for true worship to the Father?
You have never given me one example where Jesus told men not to worship him when they were worshipping him!
But I know you will just ignore this and spew out more poisen against me from your forked tongue!
You will just give us some more lame examples comparing the honour and praise of men to the Honour and Praise given to the Father and Jesus simultaneously!
WJ
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 26 2010,19:08) WJ,
You are right, my accussations mean nothing.
“My Accussations” mean nothing. Let it be so, but beware the accussation of the Holy Spirit!
JAObviously you do not know the difference in the “Accuser of the brethren” and the “Holy Spirit”.
The Holy Spirit doesn't condemn, accuse, patronize, critisize, and call men names like you do.
The goodness of God leads men to repentance.
The Holy Spirit is gentle like a Dove and draws men to Jesus through conviction and not with a mean driving accusing Spirit like you portray and spill out on this forum!
I am not the only one to see this either. So go and pray and see what God says to you!
WJ
Ah, poor WJ, you can't even acknowledge defeat in a humble manner!
How amazing it would be to see someone being Worshipped?
Have you ever witnessed anyone being Worshipped?
Do you know what Worship is?
I would say, No! You, like most people, just use the word without any idea what you are saying – great scholars, you and TT, ha ha!
Ah, TT, so you think you are being pious and Godly.
Your deceit is evident throught ALL your posts.
You have a good laugh and joke at the 'young' ones and boast to yourself at your ability to post some silly comment that cafuffulls and confuses the 'intelligent' posters.I have warned them not to post unscriptural information but their own false pride forces them to write from theflesh, giving you a sense of ease when you defeat them with your twisted logic.
However, with me, that doesn't work because I write what the Holy Spirit reveals to me. That is why you are frustrated by me, by the Hoky Spirit.
So, when I demand that you reply to me with the Hoky Spirit, you cannot, because you do not have the Holy Spirit, and if you did then you would agree because there id only one Holy Spirit andit doesn't lie to itself nor to anyone because it is the Holy Spirit of TRUTH, God's Truth.
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 26 2010,19:27) Ah, poor WJ, you can't even acknowledge defeat in a humble manner! How amazing it would be to see someone being Worshipped?
Have you ever witnessed anyone being Worshipped?
Do you know what Worship is?
I would say, No! You, like most people, just use the word without any idea what you are saying – great scholars, you and TT, ha ha!
JADefeat?
You have already given the definition of worship and it was Good.
But when we point out that is what men were doing to Jesus you started dancing a dance. Now you say Jesus wasn't being worshipped though the scriptures disagree with you!
Spin Spin Spin.
You come here acting like you know so much. Then we found out you didn't even know that the capitol letters were put in the Bible by the Translators for clarification and are not in the original Greek or Hebrew.
We called you on it, for in one of your post you said the Holy Spirit showed you that the big “G” meant God Almighty, but when we pointed out to you that the big “G” was used in refering to Jesus in more than one place then again you started dancing!
Now you say we can't accept defeat?
Blessings WJ
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 26 2010,19:38) So, when I demand that you reply to me with the Hoky Spirit, you cannot, because you do not have the Holy Spirit, and if you did then you would agree because there id only one Holy Spirit andit doesn't lie to itself nor to anyone because it is the Holy Spirit of TRUTH, God's Truth.
JASo now you are God and know who does and who does not have the Holy Spirit?
WJ
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 26 2010,19:38) However, with me, that doesn't work because I write what the Holy Spirit reveals to me. That is why you are frustrated by me, by the Hoky Spirit.
JADon't flatter yourself. I have been here a long time before you and will probably be here a long time after you leave.
To be honest IMO most here are more challenging than you!
The only thing we have to defend with you is your mean spirited post.
I am not frustrated by you. You are like an anoying child in a school yard who tries to bully people around with the name calling and demeaning attitude.
Thats cowardly and to obvious to be frustrating.
Annoying maybe!
WJ
WJ,
If you had the Holy Spirit you wiuld not need to be deceitful un yiur responses, no more, no less, the Holy Spirit doesn't lie, simpky.
You 'great learning' causes you to look for things that aren't there.
I have never alluded to Jesus being worshipped.
Thank you for acknowledging the post on Worship.
TT claimed that 'my','the definition I gave, I must have copied it from somewhere'. Google all you like for it, it was Holy Spirit inspired.
Tonight, the Holy Spirit came over me with the respinse to TT, and or your, suggestion that the definition would also apply to Jesys as Jesus said we should 'die' for his sake.
Well, 'Sake of Christ' being to do the Will if the Father (For what other purpose did Jesus die but to fulfill that which the Father Foretold?).
Dying for anyone other than God is not giving your spirit to that person.
Only God gave life to man, and only God can receive it back to himself.
There is no mystery in this and even a human illustration can show that:
What a dishonor it is to offer our devotion, sacred sacrifice and everlasting service (True Worship) to anyone other than the one that gave us His greatest gift, that of and from Himself, His very own Spirit, life in a fleshly vessel!Worship God.
Big 'G', little 'g'. I know the difference.
Many posters here seemingly do, or did not know. Their posts were littered with errors due to scriptural and translational ignorance.
I would wish that the scriptures properly used God's name instead of 'LORD'. But, I guess, it is like Jesus' parables: Those with wisdom and those of a True Spirit for God and His Son, will read with Holy Spirit revealed knowledge and understanding. The rest will make up what their earthly minds believe.
WJ,
'Be here a long time…', yes, did I not write about that…?
And, yes, you will still be posting your irreverent and unscriptural trinitarian diatribe in the same way having learned nothing but, at least for me, allowing me to test, and increase beyond measure, my spiritual belief.
Oh, what do they call that something to change another thing but it, itself doesn't change?
Ah, yes, a Catalyst…
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