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Good post Jael.
Some here think it is their mission to derail you no matter what you say. But is that a surprise. The god of this age is against us and he has no shortage of disciples willing to do his bidding. Even of those who are called, there are those under his influence.
My advice to is keep doing what you have been doing so far, but expect opposition. Jesus wasn’t worthy enough for the Pharisees, remember that.
Hi t8,
Jesus said the Son can do nothing of himself.
That is what he said and yes without God, nothing would be the norm.
But is he just a vessel to you?
What about getting to know him. He is the son of the Living God and visible image of the invisible God.
Hi t8,
Jesus Christ is not a vessel.
Jesus of Nazareth is the vessel for the treasure of the Spirit and you are invited to join him.
Nick. ….T8….DOESN’T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT, I think he believes the man Jesus “is” the christ (ANOINTING SPIRIT) himself, he doesn’t seem to understand there is a difference, between the anointing spirit of GOD AND THE HUMAN JESUS IT IS IN. He can’t seem to see the Father “in” Jesus doing his own work through him. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
you said:
Now the Lord is the Spirit. We will come to you.
He who remains in the teachings has both the Father and the Son.
Our fellowship is with the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
Those who do not have the Spirit of Christ are nothing of his.
Those words are true. The Spirit is a unity of the Father and the Son! They each have their own spirit and those spirits are united as one of course. The spirit of believers is also united as one spirit.
The LORD is the God of gods and the Lord of lords (Deut 10:17). Paul tells us that God is the Father and the Lord is the Son (1 Cor 8:6). Together they are THE LORD (YHVH)!
Jael,
You are trying to divide the united Spirit of the LORD. Why would you do that? Do you not claim to have both the Father and the Son in you? Is the Father the only one that is “in” you?
Lightenup,
If you truly believe that James speaks the truth when he declares that God cannot be tempted then you also truly believe that God is not tempted even as we are and yet Scripture claims was.
To declare Jesus is the one true God means you do not believe either or both of the passages or that Scripture and Jesus is therefore a liar to declare otherwise.
Trinitarians saw this problem with their teaching and resolved by developing an equally absurd doctrine that Jesus was both 100% human and 100% the one true God when it is impossible for anything to be 200% total of any kind or any combination of kinds.
That is why they deceptively declared it cannot be tested with reason.
Why do you follow the false emperor cult.
LU….JESUS IS A lord, (adoni) human ruler, not LORD (adonia) the almighty GOD, WHO IS THE “ONLY’ “TRUE” GOD, NOW GOD is spirit, and being a spirit he can indwell not only JESUS but “all” flesh. WE who have the spirit of God, just as Jesus does, are now sons of God, as Jesus is, we are joint heirs with him, we are all “ONE” WITH JESUS, GOD THE FATHER, and EACH OTHER, BY THAT “SAME” SPIRIT. Jael sees it right i believe as NICK, KERWIN, MARTY, AND OTHERS HERE DO ALSO.
THERE IS NO MULTIPLISITY OF GOD’S, just “ONE” GOD “in all and through all”. Same God that was “IN” Jesus is in all who have His spirit “IN” THEM. Jesus made this clear, you need to believe what he said, and this will become clear to you. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Hi LU,
We must not think of the Spirit in natural human terms.
There never was two spirits who became one.
The Spirit of the Son is of the Spirit of the Father.
The Word was with God and was God.
As the Spirit in Jesus said
‘I proceeded forth and came from God’
Hi LU,
The spirit of a man is given to him and returns to God at death.ecc 12
But even our spirit in us is a candle to God that He knows our ways.prov 20.27
Spirit is from the Father of spirits
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The Spirit is lent and never divided from Him
you said:
If you truly believe that James speaks the truth when he declares that God cannot be tempted then you also truly believe that God is not tempted even as we are and yet Scripture claims was.
Yes, I truly believe that God cannot be tempted, that is why YHVH, as the Lord of lords, had to “empty Himself” and agree to be made lower than the angels so that it was possible to do things that He couldn’t do before He became a man. YHVH, as the God of gods did not come as a man. They are two different beings and together they are the one God, YHVH in the fullest sense. YHVH is both, the Father and the Son, the God of gods AND the Lord of lords. One is seen in the OT and NT and one is unseen.
I think the reason you and others are not wanting to believe this is because the Gospels don’t say it clearly enough for you. The reason for that is if Jesus demonstrated beyond a doubt that He was the creator and the “Word of the LORD” that appeared to the Israelites whom the Israelites understood as YHVH in some manner that could appear and speak directly to them, He would not have been killed. He had to be killed to be able to rise and overcome sin and death. Satan stumbled right into His plan. Satan brought about his own destruction when he filled Judas and led him to betray Jesus and then others to make sure He was crucified. Satan thought he beat the system, so to speak, but actually cooperated very well by unknowingly setting the stage for his own destruction.
Nick,
“Sons of Adam are earthen vessels.” So Jesus body was a son of Adam but was his spirit also? or was his spirit actually a son of God?
And was his body really a son of Adam since he was born of a virgin? just what need was there for a virgin birth according to you?
you said:
LU….JESUS IS A lord, (adoni) human ruler, not LORD (adonia) the almighty GOD, WHO IS THE “ONLY’ “TRUE” GOD,…
Gene, who in the OT is the Lord of the Sabbath?
Who in the OT is the Lord of all?
Can you answer those two questions?
Hi Andrew,
He is a man as scripture attests.
His spirit left him at Calvary as scripture also attests.
He is yet alive in the anointing Spirit just as Abraham ,Isaac and Jacob are.
And just how are Abraham,Issac, and Jacob still alive? is it really just in an “anointing spirit”? so they were raised from death in the same fashion as Jesus? and what of virgin birth? does that have any significance? some Christians don’t believe in that either so I understand if you don’t.
Nick,
Are Abraham,Isaac,Jacob and Jesus all alive with Joseph Smith on Planet X or maybe they all have their own planets? I know you don’t think they’re all in “heaven”.
Hi Andrew,
Do you not know what God is offering you?
Eternal life by sharing the Spirit of the ever living God.
You will bypass the final judgement passing from death to life.
Follow Jesus
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