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Hi hoghead,
Rebellion is the wide road that most choose.
Why not be brave and take the words of God seriously?
HI, Nick,
Ignorance and bigotry is the road that many choose. Why not become educated and take the words of God seriously?
Of course not. How could anyone ever think of God doing otherwise? It’s the unwashed, uneducated masses who need the help. It’s all like the world of locomotives. Those whoa are the big engines, God expects to slog it out for themselves on the upgrade without any parts whining. Those who are poor, the sick, the uneducated, the disadvantaged, the little engines, should first couple onto the Big Divine Three Lash-Up, The Father, The Son, and the Spirit. and let them be the helper engines, before proceeding onto the steep upgrade into Heaven.
Dear Nick,
Please remember that Jesus does say in Matt.6:19-21 to lay not up treasures on earth but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven where moth and rust cannot corrupt nor thieves can steal. For where our treasure is there our hearts shall be also. This seems to say our heart and hope should be heaven.
AndrewAD and @admin,
I have posted twice to this thread and neither as shown up but yours showed up.
Hoghead,
I posted to you twice before and my posts did not show but it seems that things are working again.
Nothing you said actually disagrees with the Scriptural claim that God is all powerful.
Well, Nick, I guess that means you don’t stand much chance of inheriting anything earthly, then, do you?
Nick, please. Could you give me some solid food, something really meaty to really think about, a challenge? Again, all you are doing here is posting inflammatory rhetoric, not theology. Boring, very boring.
Just ignore him hoghead.
Hi Andrew,
Yes our treasures are kept for us in heaven.
But that makes no statement about our future home.
I said that Scripture implies a Trinity, but does not work it out in any real detail.
And yet it does more than imply that there is one God the Father. It teaches this clearly.
The prologue to Jn. is one such major passage that points to the Trinity.
Not so. If the Word is God himself, then that would negate the Father being God.
Was Eve Adam? Or was she adam? Some translations and Trinitarian scholars admit that the Word cannot be God himself, because of the lack of definite article whilst it is there for both the Word and every other mention of God. Theos is applied to more than the Father. It is applied to those to whom the word of God came for example. The mention of theos doesn’t make someone or something the Most High.
Also, traditions are important. They give meaning and organization. Of course, we also want to think creatively and that means a healthy skepticism about traditions. Whichever way you argue on the Trinity, you are still affirming a tradition.
Jesus said of the Pharisees that their tradition nullified the power of God. There are many traditions that are destructive. Many are taught as truth today unfortunately.
I just said, in my previous post here, that they did not worship David. Also I don’t know what the “older tradition” is that you re referring to here. If you mean the OT, OK. However, certain early churches did affirm the Deity of Christ., the exceptions being teh anti-Trinitarians such as the Arians, Orign, etc.
Give this page a read. It explains the word ‘worship’.
You close your ears to what I say and support the words of one who teaches trinity?
Nick, I am talking about your behavior. Does it not strike you as odd that nearly everyone you engage with says the same thing. Are they all wrong about your behaviour?
You say:
God the Father (correct)
God the Son (incorrect)
God the SpiritBut Jesus is called the Son of God.
The Spirit is the Spirit of God.So is the Father, the Father of God?
Or is he just God, and all else (in context) is OF him?
You’re right, T8. Ignoring hi9m is the way to go. Meanwhile, his posts do encourage me to practice up on being witty. For me, online forums are very good places to practice up on your communication skills.
Hi, t8,
If you follow along with the substance metaphysics of the fathers, then God is viewed as a wholly simple being, meaning no parts, no internal complexity, all alike inside. This is the arithmetic concept of unity, divine or otherwise. And yes, that certainly would mean the if the Father is God, then the Son is automatically ruled out of the picture, and so, too, the Spirit. However, I follow an organic sense of unity or oneness. Each entity is a complex synthesis of parts. So no problem with all three being God.
Your pit about Adam and Eve is interesting. In terms of substance metaphysics, they are wholly separate beings. However, as I said, I reject substance metaoysics and view reality relationally. Each entity is always part of all the others. You really can’t tell where one thing ends and the other begins. All things flow into one another. So, in a very real sense Eve is definitely part of Adam, present in the real internal constitution of Adam and vice versa.
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