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There was mention of the Too Hard Basket in another thread. There are many very good questions that have been asked in these fora for which no one has produced a good answer. Science has a Very Hard Basket and a We Think It Could Be Impossible Basket but no 'Too Hard Basket'.
First item:
How did the Kiwi get from Mt. Ararat to Auckland after the supposed flood?
Stuart
hey stuart
Gen 17:17 Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall [a child] be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?
umm, yer, I know my grandmother still gets marriage proposals but…. … 
this is a hard basket?
Arr we are seeking for a guineapig
Someone that’s good at holding the breathe under water!
one with faith that might like to test if they can survive in whale three days and three nights?or if not dead.. then prove to me that Jesus was really the first man as scripture sugests that he is to be raised from the the dead state,
and not Jonas?
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
charity
Birds of feather flock together without using a mirror?Think that’s faith?
Who feed them worms from the nest?
Whose basket was the egg put in?
Can we trust what we see?I have a great faith, width, hight, we can’t tell if something’s supernatural without planting our feet firmly on earths solid ground first!
Hi,
I am glad we do not have to understand everything. That is freeing as the distractions of detail can stop folk walking. Some stop and turn to trusting their own limited knowledge. Sad.Quote How did the Kiwi get from Mt. Ararat to Auckland after the supposed flood? I'm going to play the “gaps” card. Just as there are tremendous gaps in the fossil record, there are gaps in what we know about this.
Perhaps the kiwi was a species with very few members and located in a very small area. And some guy on a boat who loved the little creature took it to new zealand. And the other kiwi's in that area died out and we haven't found the fossils of them because …. well, bones have to be under just the right conditions to be fossilized, as the evolutionists say over and over.
But of course, that wouldn't explain why the kiwi fossils on new zealand are dated at tens of thousands of years…..UNLESS, there was a flood or something that the scientists haven't taken into consideration when making their calculations based on their radiometric dating.
Of course, some have said that findings of oceanographers indicate that at one time land ridges connected what are now isolated land areas. For example, oceanographic studies indicate that the Mid-Atlantic Ridge may have crossed that ocean above the surface. Possibly there were also other ridges, and animals could have migrated by means of these before such ridges sank below the surface of the ocean. Other oceanographic studies have turned up evidence that once there existed a huge South Pacific continent that took in Australia and many of the South Sea isles. If such was the case, then, of course, the animals had no difficulty in migrating to these lands.
But again you can ask: Why did they die out everywhere else along the way, and why haven't we found all the fossils of the kiwi along the way?
Maybe they died out because they're flightless birds and are tasty. And maybe all those fossils of the kiwi are hiding where all the other “gaps” in the fossil record are hiding.
Who knows.
Question: What is a “too hard basket”?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2008,18:43) Hi,
I am glad we do not have to understand everything. That is freeing as the distractions of detail can stop folk walking. Some stop and turn to trusting their own limited knowledge. Sad.
If we were not meant to understand the bible, why was it written?Quote (david @ April 09 2008,18:52) Quote How did the Kiwi get from Mt. Ararat to Auckland after the supposed flood? I'm going to play the “gaps” card. Just as there are tremendous gaps in the fossil record, there are gaps in what we know about this.
Perhaps the kiwi was a species with very few members and located in a very small area. And some guy on a boat who loved the little creature took it to new zealand. And the other kiwi's in that area died out and we haven't found the fossils of them because …. well, bones have to be under just the right conditions to be fossilized, as the evolutionists say over and over.
But of course, that wouldn't explain why the kiwi fossils on new zealand are dated at tens of thousands of years…..UNLESS, there was a flood or something that the scientists haven't taken into consideration when making their calculations based on their radiometric dating.
Of course, some have said that findings of oceanographers indicate that at one time land ridges connected what are now isolated land areas. For example, oceanographic studies indicate that the Mid-Atlantic Ridge may have crossed that ocean above the surface. Possibly there were also other ridges, and animals could have migrated by means of these before such ridges sank below the surface of the ocean. Other oceanographic studies have turned up evidence that once there existed a huge South Pacific continent that took in Australia and many of the South Sea isles. If such was the case, then, of course, the animals had no difficulty in migrating to these lands.
But again you can ask: Why did they die out everywhere else along the way, and why haven't we found all the fossils of the kiwi along the way?
Maybe they died out because they're flightless birds and are tasty. And maybe all those fossils of the kiwi are hiding where all the other “gaps” in the fossil record are hiding.
Who knows.
Question: What is a “too hard basket”?
Oh Yer Kevin!
Just needs a couple of gherkins and its up on the menu,with
Kitty chow main or Sweet and sour kitten
Quote (kejonn @ April 10 2008,15:19) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2008,18:43) Hi,
I am glad we do not have to understand everything. That is freeing as the distractions of detail can stop folk walking. Some stop and turn to trusting their own limited knowledge. Sad.
If we were not meant to understand the bible, why was it written?
Hi Kj,
So that you might be drawn by the light therein to seek the necessary tools to grasp the beauteous message, to sell all you have to buy the field in which jewels are buried.I don't know….
How about this one…
How come we are still here after living in a super huge Asteroid belt for like a billion years (so the scientists say due to “Carbon” dating” or what ever)?
I mean like DUH!
We can plainly see where the Moon …Mars…even Earth…has been hit by these things…yet its Still here.
AMAZING!
…Oh thats just coincidence…
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
I don't think so buddy.
How about this one…
How come we can't “SEE” the end of the Universe? I mean like There has to be a start point some where right? Laugh out loud…AS IF we could get there anyway!…for cryin' out loud!
I mean seriously! How come the planet we live on just happens to be the only one that we know about …that just Happens to have life on it? AMAZING! It just happens to be in just the right spot from the SUN to sustain life. With just the right Atmosphere and Magnetic Fields and all that Jazz to sustain life…aside from having survived a very LARGE ASTEROID BELT…for like Eleventy-Billion Years! AMAZING!
Just flat out AMAZING! How much “Faith” these Humans have over their own “Dumbfoundness” and their science. “The SUN is going to EXPLODE!” but not for another TEN GAZILLION Years!
…
What?
el oh el!
I mean like what if it blows up tomorrow?! I guess that we would have just been wrong…oops!
Yeah…I'll stick with GOD. He's got a 100% accuracy rate going for him.
Like the Weather…”Yeah we have a 50% chance of Rain”
haha! I mean like El oH El Big time….Like ROFLCOPTER! LOLLERSKATES!
PWNT!
What that means is …”We just quite frankly don't know”
Some science! AMAZING!
You'd think that if they can tell you how old a stupid rock floating around in space is with supreme certainty …they could at least tell you if its going to rain tomorrow without certainty?
I mean GET REAL DUDE!
Quote (Samuel @ April 10 2008,20:05) I don't know…. How about this one…
How come we are still here after living in a super huge Asteroid belt for like a billion years (so the scientists say due to “Carbon” dating or what ever)?
I mean like DUH!
We can plainly see where the Moon …Mars…even Earth…has been hit by these things…yet its Still here.
AMAZING!
…Oh thats just coincidence…
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
Planets that have atmospheres like ours don't get hit by small to medium-sized meteors. A meteor shower is the light from the heat generated by friction with the air as the meteors break up.Stuart
How about this?
GOT GOD?
…
Cause you need him
To answer all your questions that your science team can't
You might say “Well GOD don't answer anyone”
Funny you should mention that. Cause see, his Son Jesus Christ.
He'll be here pretty soon. You can just ask him when he gets here.
Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,20:10) Quote (Samuel @ April 10 2008,20:05) I don't know…. How about this one…
How come we are still here after living in a super huge Asteroid belt for like a billion years (so the scientists say due to “Carbon” dating or what ever)?
I mean like DUH!
We can plainly see where the Moon …Mars…even Earth…has been hit by these things…yet its Still here.
AMAZING!
…Oh thats just coincidence…
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
Planets that have atmospheres like ours don't get hit by small to medium-sized meteors. A meteor shower is the light from the heat generated by friction with the air as the meteors break up.Stuart
Are you like a Comedian IRL or something?Cause your bustin' my gut over here!
I mean I'm not trying to get all up in your Kool-Aid or nothing…
But your just cracking me up man!
Quote I'm going to play the “gaps” card. Just as there are tremendous gaps in the fossil record, there are gaps in what we know about this.
There are some specific gaps in the fossil record but there is no gap in the evolutionary explanation. What we have here is a gap in the biblical explanation. That is a fatal flaw.Quote Perhaps the kiwi was a species with very few members and located in a very small area. And some guy on a boat who loved the little creature took it to new zealand. And the other kiwi's in that area died out and we haven't found the fossils of them because …. well, bones have to be under just the right conditions to be fossilized, as the evolutionists say over and over.
OK. The ‘They survived for a while then some guy took it on a boat’ hypothesis.Gen 8:16 Go forth of the ark, thou, and thy wife, and thy sons, and thy sons' wives with thee. Gen 8:17 Bring forth with thee every living thing that is with thee, of all flesh, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful, and multiply upon the earth. Gen 8:18 And Noah went forth, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him: Gen8:19 Every beast, every creeping thing, and every fowl, and whatsoever creepeth upon the earth, after their kinds, went forth out of the ark. When the animals left the ark, what would they have eaten? Gen 8:20 And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.
The animals went forth out of the ark. Below you argue that Kiwi are tasty. ‘Going forth’ would seem to be somewhat hazardous for this kind of bird!Quote But of course, that wouldn't explain why the kiwi fossils on new zealand are dated at tens of thousands of years…..UNLESS, there was a flood or something that the scientists haven't taken into consideration when making their calculations based on their radiometric dating.
And your theory of the flood changing the ratio of carbon isotopes or the strength of the nuclear binding energy is what?Quote Of course, some have said that findings of oceanographers indicate that at one time land ridges connected what are now isolated land areas. For example, oceanographic studies indicate that the Mid-Atlantic Ridge may have crossed that ocean above the surface. Possibly there were also other ridges, and animals could have migrated by means of these before such ridges sank below the surface of the ocean. Other oceanographic studies have turned up evidence that once there existed a huge South Pacific continent that took in Australia and many of the South Sea isles. If such was the case, then, of course, the animals had no difficulty in migrating to these lands.
We have had this before. The mid-oceanic ridges, if you try drawing them on a world map, do not connect continents together. How could they? It is possible that New Zealand and Australia were connected, but it was many millions of years ago. We are discussing an event that is alleged to have occurred a few thousand years ago.Quote But again you can ask: Why did they die out everywhere else along the way, and why haven't we found all the fossils of the kiwi along the way?
Well we have found no remains of any kind. No bones (fossils do not really form over the course of only a few thousand years), no cave paintings, no oral tradition of this very distinctive bird. Not one, except all the evidence found in New Zealand.Quote Maybe they died out because they're flightless birds and are tasty. And maybe all those fossils of the kiwi are hiding where all the other “gaps” in the fossil record are hiding.
Creationism can be an explanation for anything. That is why it is an explanation for nothing.Quote Who knows.
Your piece de resistance! The “Who Knows” supposition.Answer: biologists know.
Quote Question: What is a “too hard basket”? It is for storing a question for which the final answer is “who knows”.
The question remains unanswered:
How did the Kiwi get from Mt. Ararat to Auckland?
Stuart
Quote (Samuel @ April 10 2008,20:29) Quote (Stu @ April 10 2008,20:10) Quote (Samuel @ April 10 2008,20:05) I don't know…. How about this one…
How come we are still here after living in a super huge Asteroid belt for like a billion years (so the scientists say due to “Carbon” dating or what ever)?
I mean like DUH!
We can plainly see where the Moon …Mars…even Earth…has been hit by these things…yet its Still here.
AMAZING!
…Oh thats just coincidence…
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
Planets that have atmospheres like ours don't get hit by small to medium-sized meteors. A meteor shower is the light from the heat generated by friction with the air as the meteors break up.Stuart
Are you like a Comedian IRL or something?Cause your bustin' my gut over here!
I mean I'm not trying to get all up in your Kool-Aid or nothing…
But your just cracking me up man!
I was being serious. Have you never seen a 'shooting star'?
They are not stars.Stuart
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