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- March 4, 2015 at 3:17 pm#789924
NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Grace is not simply pardon.
My grace is sufficient for you does not make sense if it meant that..
March 4, 2015 at 7:41 pm#789934kerwin
ParticipantNick,
I did not say it was. My point is it is a pleasant gift.
March 4, 2015 at 7:43 pm#789935NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
It is everything.
Flesh contributes nothing
March 4, 2015 at 7:56 pm#789938kerwin
ParticipantNick,
My flesh comes through the grace of God.
March 4, 2015 at 9:01 pm#789939NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
No doubt you will show evidence for this statement
March 5, 2015 at 7:13 am#789949kerwin
ParticipantNick,
He created me. I exist due to his grace.
March 5, 2015 at 7:28 am#789951NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
So no scriptural support?
Your flesh is of the dirt of earth
March 5, 2015 at 8:06 am#789955kerwin
ParticipantNick,
There is something that you are not understanding.
God created the the “dirt of the earth” and so it exists by his grace.
March 5, 2015 at 8:22 am#789958NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Absolutely.
March 5, 2015 at 9:12 am#789976kerwin
ParticipantNick,
That is my point about my flesh.
March 5, 2015 at 9:21 am#789977NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Glorying in the flesh is the way of man.
March 5, 2015 at 5:11 pm#790039kerwin
ParticipantNick,
That just makes me think you have no real idea what those words mean.
March 5, 2015 at 6:17 pm#790048NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Yes it would.
March 5, 2015 at 10:59 pm#790061kerwin
ParticipantNick,
I think that because you switched the definition of flesh from the creation of God to the sinful nature.
Now that I look I see that you might not have been using it in the sense of Galatians 11:18 but were instead using it in the sense of 6:13 which still does not apply.
I am speaking of God creating the human body not to preaching to the Gentiles that they have to obey the covenant made with Abraham, and then later again with the children of Israel nor do I take pleasure the obey such a false teaching.
The only glory am taking is that God created me and giving glory to God for his good works is not a sin.
March 6, 2015 at 1:22 am#790065NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Sinful nature?
God’s creation is very good.
Lusts conceive and give birth to sin.
March 6, 2015 at 8:54 am#790073kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Sinful nature?
What is your point?
March 6, 2015 at 9:05 am#790077NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
You spoke of it.
Can you explain what it means to you?
March 6, 2015 at 10:08 am#790082kerwin
ParticipantNick,
It is the godless nature of man. It teaches us to disobey God and to be satisfied with a righteousness that is short of the glory of God.
March 6, 2015 at 10:28 am#790083NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
All outside Yeshua are under the power of the evil one=they have a god whether they know or not.
What does shared “sinful nature” teach?
All who walk in darkness unwittingly follow their god.
Only the Spirit of Righteousness can lead to righteousness -and it is in the eyes of God and not man..
March 6, 2015 at 2:17 pm#790097kerwin
ParticipantNick,
What does shared “sinful nature” teach?
I am not sure what you mean here. Do you mean that all living human beings that have not ascended have the same sinful nature?
Even then I do not know the answer so could you please provide it.
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