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Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 13 2014,15:57) terraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote j42 did God created EVIL
That is what he declaredQuote was the name of the KNOWLEDGE OF THE TREE THE RIGHT NAME IN THE KJV “Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of” good and evil,”
Yes, the right name, that what the scriptures tell us.Quote WE ALL KNOW WHAT EVIL MEANS ;AND WHAT THE WORD INCLUDES ,
We should know what evil means, we are warned to depart from evil. There is evil that is obvious like murder, stealing, lying etc, but the more we read, the more we find out what is evil. Like going to fortune tellers and consulting mediums, taking a brother to court, taking blood, etc.Quote WAS IT TRANSLATED FROM THE OLD TEXT IN A CLEAN UNDERSTANDING OF THE ENTIRE SCRIPTURES
I don't think they had the capability of understanding the scriptures in those days. They were men just like us, but skilled in their field and the word of God. The translation of the scriptures was God's doing. In his hands. Not the hands of men, although men were used by God to put it together, because he didn't use monkeys. This is how God chose to preserve his Word.Quote THIS ALSO APPLY TO ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT USES THAT WORD , CAN YOU STAND UP ANS SAY THE TRUTH AND PROVE IT ;
We can prove that the scriptures harmonise and is not watered down, but in full detail with nothing missing.
You and others are trying to prove that they are not, because you don't trust that God can preserve his Word for all generations.the KJV went out to the masses of the gentiles. They had access to read it themselves, or have it read to them, without having to go through the Roman Catholic church. How else would one find salvation back then? You think that God only cares about the truth being given in “the last days”. Didn't he say that these were the most evil of times? What about our grandparents and their grandparents and their grandparents who read the bible? Were they deceived? Did they read, learn and quote corrupted verses?
J42Quote That is what he declared NOT WITH THE HELP OF MEN THAT GOD LET DO TO TEST ALL MEN ,IN THIS YOU FAIL.
Quote Yes, the right name, that what the scriptures tell us. THIS WAS KNOWLEDGE THAT ADAM SHOULD HAVE LEARNED NOTHING ELSE ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES ;
WHAT IS THEIR TO LEARN ABOUT “GOOD” WHAT IT MEANS
IF YOU SAY “RIGHT ” THEN YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT AS TO BE LEARNED ,IF YOU CALLED IT “EVIL” IT DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING BECAUSE THEIR WAS NO EVIL ON EARTH YET ;BUT IF YOU CALL IT “WRONG” THEN YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT GOD WANTS BY THE INTERDICTION OF EATING OF THE TREE ,
Quote We should know what evil means, we are warned to depart from evil. There is evil that is obvious like murder, stealing, lying etc, but the more we read, the more we find out what is evil. Like going to fortune tellers and consulting mediums, taking a brother to court, taking blood, etc. EVIL DOES NOT ENCOMPASS ALL WICKEDNESS OR WRONGDOING ONLY THE WORSE OF IT ,BUT GOD DOES NOT LOOK FOR US TO GET RID OF THE WORSE OF WICKEDNESS BUT OF ALL OF IT AND BECOME HOLY LIKE HE IS ,
Quote I don't think they had the capability of understanding the scriptures in those days. They were men just like us, but skilled in their field and the word of God. The translation of the scriptures was God's doing. In his hands. Not the hands of men, although men were used by God to put it together, because he didn't use monkeys. This is how God chose to preserve his Word. THE WORDS THAT WERE WRITTEN WAS GIVEN BY GOD TO MEN ,AND AS LONG THAT MEN WOULD STAY TRUTHFUL TO GOD THE TRANSLATION WAS IN GOOD HANDS ,BUT WHEN MEN START TO GET CORRUPTED
SO WAS THE TRANSLATION ,BUT THE GREAT TEST IS WHAT WE DO TO SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH OF GOD AND MAKE SURE IT IS THE TRUTH ,THIS CAN ONLY BE DONE BY TO BELIEVE THE BIBLE IN IS FULL CONTEXT “THIS IS WHY EVIL DOES NOT FIT GOD IN SCRIPTURES ONLY LOVE SO ONE OF THOSE WORDS IS WRONG NO MATTER WHAT .
Quote We can prove that the scriptures harmonise and is not watered down, but in full detail with nothing missing.
You and others are trying to prove that they are not, because you don't trust that God can preserve his Word for all generationsI CERTAINLY DO BELIEVE THAT ,AND HE DID,BUT HE ALSO TEST THOSE FALSE BELIEVERS
Quote the KJV went out to the masses of the gentiles. They had access to read it themselves, or have it read to them, without having to go through the Roman Catholic church. How else would one find salvation back then? You think that God only cares about the truth being given in “the last days”. Didn't he say that these were the most evil of times? What about our grandparents and their grandparents and their grandparents who read the bible? Were they deceived? Did they read, learn and quote corrupted verses? THERE ALWAYS HAVE BEEN BIBL
E IN MANY LANGUAGES THROUGH OUT MEN HISTORY ;BUT YOU SEEM NOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS MEN THAT MAKE RELIGION BUT IT IS GOD THAT SAVESQuote (journey42 @ Nov. 11 2013,16:19)
Nick,You need to watch these video's..if you want to find out the truth before you go slandering the KJV
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NickYou obviously did not watch the video, and therefore let it be a witness against you, and those who agree with you, not bothering to find out the truth.
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
What version out of all the new translations came first?
How can you say words were added when other versions came after?It's like someone writing a song, and somebody else comes along and writes a slightly different version to the same tune, but watering down the words, and then another version comes out, and waters it down more, and then another version, and it goes on and on till most of the original words are left out, …..then claiming that the original was changed?
How can words be added if they were there in the first place?
You should be asking why words were deleted in the newer versions?Mind boggling.
Hi J42,
You should not try to judge for God.
The versions derive from different manuscripts.
The words added are not in any manuscript-you need to first check it outHi,
From WikipediaThe gradual appearance of the comma in the manuscript evidence is represented in the following tables:
Latin manuscripts
Date
Name
Place
Other information
7th century Codex Legionensis Leon Cathedral Spanish
7th century Frisingensia Fragmenta Spanish
9th century Codex Cavensis Spanish
9th century Codex Ulmensis Spanish
927 AD Codex Complutensis I Spanish
10th century Codex Toletanus Spanish
8th–9th century Codex Theodulphianus Paris (BnF) Franco-Spanish
8th–9th century Codex Sangallensis 907 St. Gallen Franco-Spanish
9th–10th century Codex Sangallensis 63 St. Gallen marginal glossGreek manuscripts
Date
Manuscript No.
Name
Place
Other information
c. 1520 61 Codex Montfortianus Dublin Original.
Reads “Holy Spirit” instead of simply “Spirit”.
Articles are missing before the “three witnesses” (spirit, water, blood).
14th–15th century 629 Codex Ottobonianus Vatican Original.
Latin text along the Greek text,
revised to conform to the Latin.
The Comma was translated and copied back into the Greek from the Latin.
16th century 918 Escorial
(Spain) Original.
18th century 2318 Bucharest Original.
Thought to be influenced
by the Vulgata Clementina.
18th century 2473 Athens Original.
11th century 88 Codex Regis Naples Marginal gloss: 16th century
11th century 177 BSB Cod. graec. 211 Munich Marginal gloss: late 16th century
10th century 221 Oxford Marginal gloss: 15th or 16th century
14th century 429 Codex Wolfenbüttel Wolfenbüttel
(Germany) Marginal gloss: 16th century
16th century 636 Naples Marginal gloss: 16th century
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