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Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 06 2014,08:39) terraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote j42 Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.read this slowly
PierreMy first question would be, how does this contradict what I have said? Can you explain where you think I went wrong?
j42Quote My first question would be, how does this contradict what I have said? Can you explain where you think I went wrong? you went wrong in the view and understanding that the WORD is not a being ,but spoken words ,
THE WORD ” IS CHRIST ,HE IS THE LAMB OF GOD ,BEFORE HE EVEN GIVE UP HIS LIVE ,
THIS MIKE AND I EXPLAIN IT TO YOU AND WAKEUP , IT SEEMS WE DO NOT GO ANY WERE ,YOU TRY TO TEACH US YOUR VIEW WE STALL YOU WITH SCRIPTURES THEN YOU COME BACK WITH OPINIONS ,COMMENTS BASED ON OPINIONS ,MEN MADE RESPONDS ; WE REALLY DO NOT CARE FOR IT ,
UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU BELIEVE US OR NOT ;YOU ARE ON YOU OWN TURF FOR IT .
terraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote you went wrong in the view and understanding that the WORD is not a being ,but spoken words , Pierre
I would not call the Word of God just “spoken words”
The Word of God is the image of God. He has a shape and can perform. God speaks, and the Word next to him carries out his commands. This Word of God is a “living Word”, a being that has life, not just a vibration.
…and this Word came out of God, because God wanted it that way, and wants it with him, beside him, for he has a plan and a purpose to transform him into flesh so that he can dwell with man, (not transform himself), but his Word.Quote THE WORD ” IS CHRIST ,HE IS THE LAMB OF GOD ,BEFORE HE EVEN GIVE UP HIS LIVE ,
The Word became the lamb of God when he was made flesh, for God prepared himself a sacrifice.Quote THIS MIKE AND I EXPLAIN IT TO YOU AND WAKEUP , IT SEEMS WE DO NOT GO ANY WERE ,YOU TRY TO TEACH US YOUR VIEW WE STALL YOU WITH SCRIPTURES THEN YOU COME BACK WITH OPINIONS ,COMMENTS BASED ON OPINIONS ,MEN MADE RESPONDS ; WE REALLY DO NOT CARE FOR IT ,
We have tried to explain it to you as well, but you are having trouble comprehending?
Our explanation is from the scriptures, not from thin air.
“And the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God”
but you say, no, for 400 hundred years the bible was translated wrong. God was not capable of delivering his word to us fully in tact, undefiled. His word was not pure, but contaminated by men, and all those people who trusted in his exact wording were fooled for 400 years, and the truth came out of Brooklyn, the holy land….j42
Quote We have tried to explain it to you as well, but you are having trouble comprehending?
Our explanation is from the scriptures, not from thin air.
“And the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God”
but you say, no, for 400 hundred years the bible was translated wrong. God was not capable of delivering his word to us fully in tact, undefiled. His word was not pure, but contaminated by men, and all those people who trusted in his exact wording were fooled for 400 years, and the truth came out of Brooklyn, the holy land….yeah,yeah, I know you guys have it all but you are only 400 years behind us new translations ,
I have nothing to say to this ;you stay in your 1611 book and I am staying in this 1984 /1990 versions including the dead sea scrolls ,
good bye
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,02:43) j42 Quote We have tried to explain it to you as well, but you are having trouble comprehending?
Our explanation is from the scriptures, not from thin air.
“And the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God”
but you say, no, for 400 hundred years the bible was translated wrong. God was not capable of delivering his word to us fully in tact, undefiled. His word was not pure, but contaminated by men, and all those people who trusted in his exact wording were fooled for 400 years, and the truth came out of Brooklyn, the holy land….yeah,yeah, I know you guys have it all but you are only 400 years behind us new translations ,
I have nothing to say to this ;you stay in your 1611 book and I am staying in this 1984 /1990 versions including the dead sea scrolls ,
good bye
T.No defence;No armour;so better go in your hole and hide,
untill the storm is over.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,01:35) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,02:43) j42 Quote We have tried to explain it to you as well, but you are having trouble comprehending?
Our explanation is from the scriptures, not from thin air.
“And the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God”
but you say, no, for 400 hundred years the bible was translated wrong. God was not capable of delivering his word to us fully in tact, undefiled. His word was not pure, but contaminated by men, and all those people who trusted in his exact wording were fooled for 400 years, and the truth came out of Brooklyn, the holy land….yeah,yeah, I know you guys have it all but you are only 400 years behind us new translations ,
I have nothing to say to this ;you stay in your 1611 book and I am staying in this 1984 /1990 versions including the dead sea scrolls ,
good bye
T.No defence;No armour;so better go in your hole and hide,
untill the storm is over.wakeup.
WWHY WOULD I NEED A DEFENSE YOU ATTACKING ME WITH A STICK AND I HAVE A MODERN GUN IN MY HANDS
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,07:40) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,01:35) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,02:43) j42 Quote We have tried to explain it to you as well, but you are having trouble comprehending?
Our explanation is from the scriptures, not from thin air.
“And the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God”
but you say, no, for 400 hundred years the bible was translated wrong. God was not capable of delivering his word to us fully in tact, undefiled. His word was not pure, but contaminated by men, and all those people who trusted in his exact wording were fooled for 400 years, and the truth came out of Brooklyn, the holy land….yeah,yeah, I know you guys have it all but you are only 400 years behind us new translations ,
I have nothing to say to this ;you stay in your 1611 book and I am staying in this 1984 /1990 versions including the dead sea scrolls ,
good bye
T.No defence;No armour;so better go in your hole and hide,
untill the storm is over.wakeup.
WWHY WOULD I NEED A DEFENSE YOU ATTACKING ME WITH A STICK AND I HAVE A MODERN GUN IN MY HANDS
T.Moderm guns but no bullets.
If you have some,then start shooting.
Dont hide in your hole.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,04:05) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,07:40) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,01:35) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,02:43) j42 Quote We have tried to explain it to you as well, but you are having trouble comprehending?
Our explanation is from the scriptures, not from thin air.
“And the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God”
but you say, no, for 400 hundred years the bible was translated wrong. God was not capable of delivering his word to us fully in tact, undefiled. His word was not pure, but contaminated by men, and all those people who trusted in his exact wording were fooled for 400 years, and the truth came out of Brooklyn, the holy land….yeah,yeah, I know you guys have it all but you are only 400 years behind us new translations ,
I have nothing to say to this ;you stay in your 1611 book and I am staying in this 1984 /1990 versions including the dead sea scrolls ,
good bye
T.No defence;No armour;so better go in your hole and hide,
untill the storm is over.wakeup.
WWHY WOULD I NEED A DEFENSE YOU ATTACKING ME WITH A STICK AND I HAVE A MODERN GUN IN MY HANDS
T.Moderm guns but no bullets.
If you have some,then start shooting.
Dont hide in your hole.wakeup.
WI STILL WAITING YOU SHOW SOME DANGER TO ME ,SO FAR YOU ARE JUST AN INFANT PLAYING IN THE SAND
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,09:09) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,04:05) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,07:40) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,01:35) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,02:43) j42 Quote We have tried to explain it to you as well, but you are having trouble comprehending?
Our explanation is from the scriptures, not from thin air.
“And the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God”
but you say, no, for 400 hundred years the bible was translated wrong. God was not capable of delivering his word to us fully in tact, undefiled. His word was not pure, but contaminated by men, and all those people who trusted in his exact wording were fooled for 400 years, and the truth came out of Brooklyn, the holy land….yeah,yeah, I know you guys have it all but you are only 400 years behind us new translations ,
I have nothing to say to this ;you stay in your 1611 book and I am staying in this 1984 /1990 versions including the dead sea scrolls ,
good bye
T.No defence;No armour;so better go in your hole and hide,
untill the storm is over.wakeup.
WWHY WOULD I NEED A DEFENSE YOU ATTACKING ME WITH A STICK AND I HAVE A MODERN GUN IN MY HANDS
T.Moderm guns but no bullets.
If you have some,then start shooting.
Dont hide in your hole.wakeup.
WI STILL WAITING YOU SHOW SOME DANGER TO ME ,SO FAR YOU ARE JUST AN INFANT PLAYING IN THE SAND
T.Why are you hiding from infants
playing in the sand?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,04:20) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,09:09) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,04:05) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,07:40) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,01:35) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2014,02:43) j42 Quote We have tried to explain it to you as well, but you are having trouble comprehending?
Our explanation is from the scriptures, not from thin air.
“And the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God”
but you say, no, for 400 hundred years the bible was translated wrong. God was not capable of delivering his word to us fully in tact, undefiled. His word was not pure, but contaminated by men, and all those people who trusted in his exact wording were fooled for 400 years, and the truth came out of Brooklyn, the holy land….yeah,yeah, I know you guys have it all but you are only 400 years behind us new translations ,
I have nothing to say to this ;you stay in your 1611 book and I am staying in this 1984 /1990 versions including the dead sea scrolls ,
good bye
T.No defence;No armour;so better go in your hole and hide,
untill the storm is over.wakeup.
WWHY WOULD I NEED A DEFENSE YOU ATTACKING ME WITH A STICK AND I HAVE A MODERN GUN IN MY HANDS
T.Moderm guns but no bullets.
If you have some,then start shooting.
Dont hide in your hole.wakeup.
WI STILL WAITING YOU SHOW SOME DANGER TO ME ,SO FAR YOU ARE JUST AN INFANT PLAYING IN THE SAND
T.Why are you hiding from infants
playing in the sand?wakeup.
WBECAUSE I AM NOT A MOTHER
J42
Quote but you say, no, for 400 hundred years the bible was translated wrong. God was not capable of delivering his word to us fully in tact, undefiled. His word was not pure, but contaminated by men, and all those people who trusted in his exact wording were fooled for 400 years, and the truth came out of Brooklyn, the holy land…. NO ONE SAID IT WAS TRANSLATED WRONG ,BUT WITH AT SOME POINT BIAS ON THE WORDING ,WHAT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME TO ACCEPT ,AND SO RENDER THAT VERSION “PERFECT ” IN ALL ASPECT OF THE WORD
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 08 2014,11:04) Is this topic about AKJV being the only true version of the Bible?
This topic started about newer bible versions watering down the Word of God.
If we give people a bible verse to correct them, instead of saying ok, sorry I was wrong, they attack the KJV and say it is corrupt.How can we use this scripture then?
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:We might as well rip this scripture out.
It is not a KJV thread, but I will defend it anyway. Like most topics, it has changed and turned into “heaven net against whatever Wakeup and Journey says”, even if we provide scriptures.
J42
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. KJV2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. NIVCOULD YOU PLEASE SHOW ME WERE THE UNDERSTANDING IS DIFFERENT
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,01:28) J42 Quote but you say, no, for 400 hundred years the bible was translated wrong. God was not capable of delivering his word to us fully in tact, undefiled. His word was not pure, but contaminated by men, and all those people who trusted in his exact wording were fooled for 400 years, and the truth came out of Brooklyn, the holy land…. NO ONE SAID IT WAS TRANSLATED WRONG ,BUT WITH AT SOME POINT BIAS ON THE WORDING ,WHAT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME TO ACCEPT ,AND SO RENDER THAT VERSION “PERFECT ” IN ALL ASPECT OF THE WORD
You said it Pierre,I will find it and prove you a liar once again.
Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 09 2014,07:52) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,01:28) J42 Quote but you say, no, for 400 hundred years the bible was translated wrong. God was not capable of delivering his word to us fully in tact, undefiled. His word was not pure, but contaminated by men, and all those people who trusted in his exact wording were fooled for 400 years, and the truth came out of Brooklyn, the holy land…. NO ONE SAID IT WAS TRANSLATED WRONG ,BUT WITH AT SOME POINT BIAS ON THE WORDING ,WHAT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME TO ACCEPT ,AND SO RENDER THAT VERSION “PERFECT ” IN ALL ASPECT OF THE WORD
You said it Pierre,I will find it and prove you a liar once again.
J42ONCE AGAIN
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terraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote NO ONE SAID IT WAS TRANSLATED WRONG ,BUT WITH AT SOME POINT BIAS ON THE WORDING ,WHAT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME TO ACCEPT ,AND SO RENDER THAT VERSION “PERFECT ” IN ALL ASPECT OF THE WORD Pierre,
I came across this in the post “what bible should I believe” Your words.Quote 42 It seems you have gone of track here ,,you jump on it quick ,to cover all the lies of the KJV , what you guy ,s try to sell us on this site,
Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 10 2014,23:23) terraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote NO ONE SAID IT WAS TRANSLATED WRONG ,BUT WITH AT SOME POINT BIAS ON THE WORDING ,WHAT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME TO ACCEPT ,AND SO RENDER THAT VERSION “PERFECT ” IN ALL ASPECT OF THE WORD Pierre,
I came across this in the post “what bible should I believe” Your words.Quote 42 It seems you have gone of track here ,,you jump on it quick ,to cover all the lies of the KJV , what you guy ,s try to sell us on this site,
J42ARE LIES NOW EQUAL TO TOTAL TRANSLATION ,IS THAT WHAT I HAVE SAID OR IT IS WHAT YOU IMPLY I SAID
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,10:09) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 10 2014,23:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,01:28) Quote NO ONE SAID IT WAS TRANSLATED WRONG ,BUT WITH AT SOME POINT BIAS ON THE WORDING ,WHAT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME TO ACCEPT ,AND SO RENDER THAT VERSION “PERFECT ” IN ALL ASPECT OF THE WORD Pierre,
I came across this in the post “what bible should I believe” Your words.Quote 42 It seems you have gone of track here ,,you jump on it quick ,to cover all the lies of the KJV , what you guy ,s try to sell us on this site,
J42ARE LIES NOW EQUAL TO TOTAL TRANSLATION ,IS THAT WHAT I HAVE SAID OR IT IS WHAT YOU IMPLY I SAID
Man up Pierre.I will be your dark horse.
Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 11 2014,12:59) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,10:09) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 10 2014,23:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,01:28) Quote NO ONE SAID IT WAS TRANSLATED WRONG ,BUT WITH AT SOME POINT BIAS ON THE WORDING ,WHAT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME TO ACCEPT ,AND SO RENDER THAT VERSION “PERFECT ” IN ALL ASPECT OF THE WORD Pierre,
I came across this in the post “what bible should I believe” Your words.Quote 42 It seems you have gone of track here ,,you jump on it quick ,to cover all the lies of the KJV , what you guy ,s try to sell us on this site,
J42ARE LIES NOW EQUAL TO TOTAL TRANSLATION ,IS THAT WHAT I HAVE SAID OR IT IS WHAT YOU IMPLY I SAID
Man up Pierre.I will be your dark horse.
j42did God created EVIL
was the name of the KNOWLEDGE OF THE TREE THE RIGHT NAME IN THE KJV
“Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of” good and evil,”
WE ALL KNOW WHAT EVIL MEANS ;AND WHAT THE WORD INCLUDES ,
WAS IT TRANSLATED FROM THE OLD TEXT IN A CLEAN UNDERSTANDING OF THE ENTIRE SCRIPTURES
THIS ALSO APPLY TO ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT USES THAT WORD ,
CAN YOU STAND UP ANS SAY THE TRUTH AND PROVE IT ;
terraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote j42 did God created EVIL
That is what he declaredQuote was the name of the KNOWLEDGE OF THE TREE THE RIGHT NAME IN THE KJV “Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of” good and evil,”
Yes, the right name, that what the scriptures tell us.Quote WE ALL KNOW WHAT EVIL MEANS ;AND WHAT THE WORD INCLUDES ,
We should know what evil means, we are warned to depart from evil. There is evil that is obvious like murder, stealing, lying etc, but the more we read, the more we find out what is evil. Like going to fortune tellers and consulting mediums, taking a brother to court, taking blood, etc.Quote WAS IT TRANSLATED FROM THE OLD TEXT IN A CLEAN UNDERSTANDING OF THE ENTIRE SCRIPTURES
I don't think they had the capability of understanding the scriptures in those days. They were men just like us, but skilled in their field and the word of God. The translation of the scriptures was God's doing. In his hands. Not the hands of men, although men were used by God to put it together, because he didn't use monkeys. This is how God chose to preserve his Word.Quote THIS ALSO APPLY TO ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT USES THAT WORD , CAN YOU STAND UP ANS SAY THE TRUTH AND PROVE IT ;
We can prove that the scriptures harmonise and is not watered down, but in full detail with nothing missing.
You and others are trying to prove that they are not, because you don't trust that God can preserve his Word for all generations.the KJV went out to the masses of the gentiles. They had access to read it themselves, or have it read to them, without having to go through the Roman Catholic church. How else would one find salvation back then? You think that God only cares about the truth being given in “the last days”. Didn't he say that these were the most evil of times? What about our grandparents and their grandparents and their grandparents who read the bible? Were they deceived? Did they read, learn and quote corrupted verses?
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