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- September 15, 2012 at 10:24 am#312941Ed JParticipant
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OK, you can go against just about every apology on the internet regarding this story, and the Chronicles account if you want. It's your fantasy story.Stuart
Hi Stuart,God has brought you to this forum for that very reason.
For you to learn “The Truth” about him, instead of you just learning
false rudimentary worldly logic about him. I will help to remove your confusion.God bless
Ed J
2 Timothy 3:16Stuart
Yes.
So you agree it says in scripture that god gets angry and smites Uzzah, and you disagree that is a correct interpretation, but you agree with 2 Tim 3:16.I still don't know why your Imaginary Friend leaves these lethally hazardous objects lying around.
Maybe it has wifi now and can destroy walls, poison people with radiation and perhaps smite people by remote control.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,I told you already, that was written by the scribe of the king, not a prophet of God.
God bless
Ed J
So you disagree with 2 Tim 3:16 then.Stuart
No Stuart,It is you who rejects its doctrine and reproof and correction for instruction in righteousness.
The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.
In 1 Sam 8:7, God told the people that they rejected him in wanting a king…“they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.”
Are you not also rejecting him from reigning over you, by you trying to find fault in his word?
The king that the people chose is in no way equal to the prophets that God chose; know the difference.“Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth
not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Tim 2:15)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 16, 2012 at 5:33 am#313150StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24) The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.
What impressions are you talking about?What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?
Stuart
September 16, 2012 at 11:21 am#313172Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24) The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.
What impressions are you talking about?What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 18, 2012 at 8:41 am#313374StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24) The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.
What impressions are you talking about?What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Please show me how the text indicates an accident.Stuart
September 18, 2012 at 9:08 am#313375TimothyVIParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24) The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.
What impressions are you talking about?What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed,
Are you saying that God inspired people to write things in his bible that were only their impressions, but were untrue?Tim
September 18, 2012 at 4:18 pm#313402Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 18 2012,19:41) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24) The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.
What impressions are you talking about?What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.God bless
Ed J
Please show me how the text indicates an accident.Stuart
Hi Stuart,he died by the ark of God. (2Sam.6:7)
This could be taken that the ark killed him
rather than a declaration of where Uzzah died.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 18, 2012 at 4:18 pm#313403Ed JParticipantQuote (TimothyVI @ Sep. 18 2012,20:08) Hi Ed,
Are you saying that God inspired people to write things in his bible that were only their impressions, but were untrue?Tim
Hi Tim,No, I'm saying that 'the king' had the scribes write his impression.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 18, 2012 at 6:34 pm#313422StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,03:18) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 18 2012,19:41) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24) The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.
What impressions are you talking about?What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.God bless
Ed J
Please show me how the text indicates an accident.Stuart
Hi Stuart,he died by the ark of God. (2Sam.6:7)
This could be taken that the ark killed him
rather than a declaration of where Uzzah died.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I think you have kind of pushed the nuclear button if you are inviting us to discuss what could be.Are there any bets still on the table?
It could be that this god is a Figment of your imagination, and that Uzzah had a heart attack, couldn't it.
Stuart
September 18, 2012 at 6:41 pm#313424Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 19 2012,05:34) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,03:18) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 18 2012,19:41) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24) The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.
What impressions are you talking about?What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.God bless
Ed J
Please show me how the text indicates an accident.Stuart
Hi Stuart,he died by the ark of God. (2Sam.6:7)
This could be taken that the ark killed him
rather than a declaration of where Uzzah died.God bless
Ed J
I think you have kind of pushed the nuclear button if you are inviting us to discuss what could be.Are there any bets still on the table?
It could be that this god is a Figment of your imagination, and that Uzzah had a heart attack, couldn't it.
Stuart
No Stuart,The Scriptural text is quite clear that Uzzah died after touching “The Ark”,
and yes it could have been a heart attack, the result of an electric-type-shock.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 19, 2012 at 8:12 am#313486StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,05:41) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 19 2012,05:34) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,03:18) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 18 2012,19:41) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24) The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.
What impressions are you talking about?What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.God bless
Ed J
Please show me how the text indicates an accident.Stuart
Hi Stuart,he died by the ark of God. (2Sam.6:7)
This could be taken that the ark killed him
rather than a declaration of where Uzzah died.God bless
Ed J
I think you have kind of pushed the nuclear button if you are inviting us to discuss what could be.Are there any bets still on the table?
It could be that this god is a Figment of your imagination, and that Uzzah had a heart attack, couldn't it.
Stuart
No Stuart,The Scriptural text is quite clear that Uzzah died after touching “The Ark”,
and yes it could have been a heart attack, the result of an electric-type-shock.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Never mind that it says smote. By god.I guess anything is possible with god.
Stuart
September 19, 2012 at 10:53 am#313496TimothyVIParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,03:18) Quote (TimothyVI @ Sep. 18 2012,20:08) Hi Ed,
Are you saying that God inspired people to write things in his bible that were only their impressions, but were untrue?Tim
Hi Tim,No, I'm saying that 'the king' had the scribes write his impression.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
So that part of the bible was not inspired by God.I just have trouble knowing which parts were inspired and which parts were not.
Or was any of it?
Tim
September 19, 2012 at 11:25 am#313497ProclaimerParticipantUsually the books tell you.
The word of YHWH saith…
I thought this good to compile an eye witness account.
And I saw what appeared to be…Not hard. Just as you would do with anything, read the back-story or understand the context.
People do not understand the word, “inspiration”. It doesn't mean automatic writing.
Often scripture is an account in a prophets own words of a vision he was shown by God. BTW, God's language is vision. We need to put that into words and often this is what we read.
And scripture tells us about unholy things that have been done. So it is historical, prophetic, and poetic worship. Read the context or the introduction to each book. Remember it is I think 66 different books.
September 20, 2012 at 3:46 pm#313571Ed JParticipantQuote (TimothyVI @ Sep. 19 2012,21:53) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,03:18) Quote (TimothyVI @ Sep. 18 2012,20:08) Hi Ed,
Are you saying that God inspired people to write things in his bible that were only their impressions, but were untrue?Tim
Hi Tim,No, I'm saying that 'the king' had the scribes write his impression.
God bless
Ed J
So that part of the bible was not inspired by God.I just have trouble knowing which parts were inspired and which parts were not.
Or was any of it?
Tim
Hi Tim,I thought the trouble you had was in believing any of it?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 23, 2012 at 3:11 am#313771princessParticipantQuote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2012,22:25) Usually the books tell you. The word of YHWH saith…
I thought this good to compile an eye witness account.
And I saw what appeared to be…Not hard. Just as you would do with anything, read the back-story or understand the context.
People do not understand the word, “inspiration”. It doesn't mean automatic writing.
Often scripture is an account in a prophets own words of a vision he was shown by God. BTW, God's language is vision. We need to put that into words and often this is what we read.
And scripture tells us about unholy things that have been done. So it is historical, prophetic, and poetic worship. Read the context or the introduction to each book. Remember it is I think 66 different books.
There are many books on many gods and many verses that say this is what god says.Seriously T8.
66 books…….interesting number there T8, some may take it as the number of the beast somewhat or is it the number of man?
Nobody else since the disciples have had dreams or vision that needed to be written down and taken as 'the word of yhwh'.
Is it people in general that don't understand the word inspiration or ones that don't attach religion to it? Please clarify, thanks.
September 29, 2012 at 2:19 am#314182terrariccaParticipantQuote (princess @ Sep. 23 2012,21:11) Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2012,22:25) Usually the books tell you. The word of YHWH saith…
I thought this good to compile an eye witness account.
And I saw what appeared to be…Not hard. Just as you would do with anything, read the back-story or understand the context.
People do not understand the word, “inspiration”. It doesn't mean automatic writing.
Often scripture is an account in a prophets own words of a vision he was shown by God. BTW, God's language is vision. We need to put that into words and often this is what we read.
And scripture tells us about unholy things that have been done. So it is historical, prophetic, and poetic worship. Read the context or the introduction to each book. Remember it is I think 66 different books.
There are many books on many gods and many verses that say this is what god says.Seriously T8.
66 books…….interesting number there T8, some may take it as the number of the beast somewhat or is it the number of man?
Nobody else since the disciples have had dreams or vision that needed to be written down and taken as 'the word of yhwh'.
Is it people in general that don't understand the word inspiration or ones that don't attach religion to it? Please clarify, thanks.
princessGAL 1:6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel;
GAL 1:7 which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.this is the war we fight
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