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    Ed J
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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 15 2012,11:36)

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    OK, you can go against just about every apology on the internet regarding this story, and the Chronicles account if you want.  It's your fantasy story.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    God has brought you to this forum for that very reason.
    For you to learn “The Truth” about him, instead of you just learning
    false rudimentary worldly logic about him. I will help to remove your confusion.

    God bless
    Ed J


    2 Timothy 3:16

    Stuart


    Yes.


    So you agree it says in scripture that god gets angry and smites Uzzah, and you disagree that is a correct interpretation, but you agree with 2 Tim 3:16.

    I still don't know why your Imaginary Friend leaves these lethally hazardous objects lying around.

    Maybe it has wifi now and can destroy walls, poison people with radiation and perhaps smite people by remote control.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    I told you already, that was written by the scribe of the king, not a prophet of God.

    God bless
    Ed J


    So you disagree with 2 Tim 3:16 then.

    Stuart


    No Stuart,

    It is you who rejects its doctrine and reproof and correction for instruction in righteousness.
    The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
    of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.
    In 1 Sam 8:7, God told the people that they rejected him in wanting a king…

    “they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.”
    Are you not also rejecting him from reigning over you, by you trying to find fault in his word?
    The king that the people chose is in no way equal to the prophets that God chose; know the difference.

    “Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth
      not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Tim 2:15)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #313150
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24)
    The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
    of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.


    What impressions are you talking about?

    What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?

    Stuart

    #313172
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24)
    The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
    of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.


    What impressions are you talking about?

    What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
    when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #313374
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21)

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24)
    The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
    of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.


    What impressions are you talking about?

    What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
    when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Please show me how the text indicates an accident.

    Stuart

    #313375
    TimothyVI
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21)

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24)
    The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
    of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.


    What impressions are you talking about?

    What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
    when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,
    Are you saying that God inspired people to write things in his bible that were only their impressions, but were untrue?

    Tim

    #313402
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 18 2012,19:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21)

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24)
    The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
    of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.


    What impressions are you talking about?

    What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
    when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Please show me how the text indicates an accident.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    he died by the ark of God. (2Sam.6:7)
    This could be taken that the ark killed him
    rather than a declaration of where Uzzah died.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #313403
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Sep. 18 2012,20:08)
    Hi Ed,
    Are you saying that God inspired people to write things in his bible that were only their impressions, but were untrue?

    Tim


    Hi Tim,

    No, I'm saying that 'the king' had the scribes write his impression.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #313422
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,03:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 18 2012,19:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21)

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24)
    The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
    of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.


    What impressions are you talking about?

    What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
    when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Please show me how the text indicates an accident.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    he died by the ark of God. (2Sam.6:7)
    This could be taken that the ark killed him
    rather than a declaration of where Uzzah died.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I think you have kind of pushed the nuclear button if you are inviting us to discuss what could be.

    Are there any bets still on the table?

    It could be that this god is a Figment of your imagination, and that Uzzah had a heart attack, couldn't it.

    Stuart

    #313424
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 19 2012,05:34)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,03:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 18 2012,19:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21)

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24)
    The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
    of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.


    What impressions are you talking about?

    What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
    when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Please show me how the text indicates an accident.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    he died by the ark of God. (2Sam.6:7)
    This could be taken that the ark killed him
    rather than a declaration of where Uzzah died.

    God bless
    Ed J


    I think you have kind of pushed the nuclear button if you are inviting us to discuss what could be.

    Are there any bets still on the table?

    It could be that this god is a Figment of your imagination, and that Uzzah had a heart attack, couldn't it.

    Stuart


    No Stuart,

    The Scriptural text is quite clear that Uzzah died after touching “The Ark”,  
    and yes it could have been a heart attack, the result of an electric-type-shock.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #313486
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,05:41)

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 19 2012,05:34)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,03:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 18 2012,19:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2012,22:21)

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 16 2012,16:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,21:24)
    The historical account is accurate in Kings Chronicles and Samuel, but the impressions
    of the king (which the people chose AGAINST GOD'S WILL) is what is lacking here.


    What impressions are you talking about?

    What verses indicate those impressions, and exactly how are the wrong?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    It was the the kings impression that YHVH slew Uzzah,
    when the text indicates that Uzzah's death was an accident.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Please show me how the text indicates an accident.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    he died by the ark of God. (2Sam.6:7)
    This could be taken that the ark killed him
    rather than a declaration of where Uzzah died.

    God bless
    Ed J


    I think you have kind of pushed the nuclear button if you are inviting us to discuss what could be.

    Are there any bets still on the table?

    It could be that this god is a Figment of your imagination, and that Uzzah had a heart attack, couldn't it.

    Stuart


    No Stuart,

    The Scriptural text is quite clear that Uzzah died after touching “The Ark”,  
    and yes it could have been a heart attack, the result of an electric-type-shock.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Never mind that it says smote. By god.

    I guess anything is possible with god.

    Stuart

    #313496
    TimothyVI
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,03:18)

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Sep. 18 2012,20:08)
    Hi Ed,
    Are you saying that God inspired people to write things in his bible that were only their impressions, but were untrue?

    Tim


    Hi Tim,

    No, I'm saying that 'the king' had the scribes write his impression.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So that part of the bible was not inspired by God.

    I just have trouble knowing which parts were inspired and which parts were not.

    Or was any of it?

    Tim

    #313497
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Usually the books tell you.

    The word of YHWH saith…
    I thought this good to compile an eye witness account.
    And I saw what appeared to be…

    Not hard. Just as you would do with anything, read the back-story or understand the context.

    People do not understand the word, “inspiration”. It doesn't mean automatic writing.

    Often scripture is an account in a prophets own words of a vision he was shown by God. BTW, God's language is vision. We need to put that into words and often this is what we read.

    And scripture tells us about unholy things that have been done. So it is historical, prophetic, and poetic worship. Read the context or the introduction to each book. Remember it is I think 66 different books.

    #313571
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Sep. 19 2012,21:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2012,03:18)

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Sep. 18 2012,20:08)
    Hi Ed,
    Are you saying that God inspired people to write things in his bible that were only their impressions, but were untrue?

    Tim


    Hi Tim,

    No, I'm saying that 'the king' had the scribes write his impression.

    God bless
    Ed J


    So that part of the bible was not inspired by God.

    I just have trouble knowing which parts were inspired and which parts were not.

    Or was any of it?

    Tim


    Hi Tim,

    I thought the trouble you had was in believing any of it?  ???

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #313771
    princess
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2012,22:25)
    Usually the books tell you.

    The word of YHWH saith…
    I thought this good to compile an eye witness account.
    And I saw what appeared to be…

    Not hard. Just as you would do with anything, read the back-story or understand the context.

    People do not understand the word, “inspiration”. It doesn't mean automatic writing.

    Often scripture is an account in a prophets own words of a vision he was shown by God. BTW, God's language is vision. We need to put that into words and often this is what we read.

    And scripture tells us about unholy things that have been done. So it is historical, prophetic, and poetic worship. Read the context or the introduction to each book. Remember it is I think 66 different books.


    There are many books on many gods and many verses that say this is what god says.

    Seriously T8.

    66 books…….interesting number there T8, some may take it as the number of the beast somewhat or is it the number of man?

    Nobody else since the disciples have had dreams or vision that needed to be written down and taken as 'the word of yhwh'.

    Is it people in general that don't understand the word inspiration or ones that don't attach religion to it? Please clarify, thanks.

    #314182
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ Sep. 23 2012,21:11)

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2012,22:25)
    Usually the books tell you.

    The word of YHWH saith…
    I thought this good to compile an eye witness account.
    And I saw what appeared to be…

    Not hard. Just as you would do with anything, read the back-story or understand the context.

    People do not understand the word, “inspiration”. It doesn't mean automatic writing.

    Often scripture is an account in a prophets own words of a vision he was shown by God. BTW, God's language is vision. We need to put that into words and often this is what we read.

    And scripture tells us about unholy things that have been done. So it is historical, prophetic, and poetic worship. Read the context or the introduction to each book. Remember it is I think 66 different books.


    There are many books on many gods and many verses that say this is what god says.

    Seriously T8.

    66 books…….interesting number there T8, some may take it as the number of the beast somewhat or is it the number of man?

    Nobody else since the disciples have had dreams or vision that needed to be written down and taken as 'the word of yhwh'.

    Is it people in general that don't understand the word inspiration or ones that don't attach religion to it? Please clarify, thanks.


    princess

    GAL 1:6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel;
    GAL 1:7 which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.

    this is the war we fight

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