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Quote (2besee @ Feb. 26 2013,14:17) T. Sorry to hear about your blood pressure. Mine is caused by another medical condition, it goes up and down week by week, and is not controlled by medication. I am supposed to call emergency when it up like this (my heart rate goes up also), ha ha – no way!
As to the topic, and what else you said,
I have always believed in God, and life has not been easy. I do not know how long you have been studying scriptures but I only began. maybe, seven years ago.
I have times when I am so close to God, and times when I feel so distant to God. But I feel that even when I am feeling distant, God is there.
I know two Indian kids (aged six and seven) who live down the road, next door to a Church. They are poor. They spent the holidays at home every day, they have no car, and no father, and went nowhere. Anyway, this afternoon they were in a rush to get home from school and told me that they were going to the place in town that teaches them about Jesus. They have been talking about this place for months now. At first in my mind I thought to myself “Jesus, but no mention of the Father” but then I thought more in my mind….”They have Jesus, they have life, they are children, God loves them………. God bless them!!”
Now, if only we could be like the children! What does scripture say……….?
And it was then that I realized that my new found belief in the Holy Spirit being the Son of God and also being a part of God, makes sense. I can understand those children more than I think I ever have!
Amen (:
Quote I have always believed in God, and life has not been easy. I do not know how long you have been studying scriptures but I only began. maybe, seven years ago. 52 years ago ,but always have believed in God also
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2013,04:28) 52 years ago ,but always have believed in God also Good on you
Quote (2besee @ Mar. 06 2013,08:54) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 03 2013,18:47) Learn ,learn,and learn Yes T
2beeThere are three bible version that I trust to be good ,
1) the KJV 1611
2) the NIV 1984
3) the NETBIBLE ,first edition.If you can read any of them and believe every word that is said ,you will find your knowledge increased a 1000 fold, and also do not add or subtract anything from it,
All his in it ,you just have to let it work through your heart,but you have to inserted their first ,
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2013,15:45) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 06 2013,08:54) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 03 2013,18:47) Learn ,learn,and learn Yes T
2beeThere are three bible version that I trust to be good ,
1) the KJV 1611
2) the NIV 1984
3) the NETBIBLE ,first edition.If you can read any of them and believe every word that is said ,you will find your knowledge increased a 1000 fold, and also do not add or subtract anything from it,
All his in it ,you just have to let it work through your heart,but you have to inserted their first ,
Hi Pierre,Oh yea, so did Christ send out “7O” or “72” then?
1) “After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two
and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.” (Luke 10:1)2) “After this the Lord appointed seventy-two others and sent them two
by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go.” (N.I.V.)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2013,15:45) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 06 2013,08:54) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 03 2013,18:47) Learn ,learn,and learn Yes T
2beeThere are three bible version that I trust to be good ,
1) the KJV 1611
2) the NIV 1984
3) the NETBIBLE ,first edition.If you can read any of them and believe every word that is said ,you will find your knowledge increased a 1000 fold, and also do not add or subtract anything from it,
All his in it ,you just have to let it work through your heart,but you have to inserted their first ,
Hi Pierre,Oh yea, so did Christ send out “7O” or “72” then?
1) “After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two
and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.” (Luke 10:1)2) After this the Lord appointed seventy-two others and sent them two
by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go. (N.I.V.)God bless
Ed J
Hi Pierre,Concerning Issac,
Abraham's “Only Begotten Son”,
what did God tell Abraham to with him?1) offer him there for a burnt offering (Gen 22:2)
2) Sacrifice him (N.I.V.)
These are clearly not the same. In the perversion
(N.I.V.), Abraham either disobeyed God or God lied.But you will likely defend the perversion on this, instead of seeing
that the N.I.V.is a perversion of God's word, which it clearly is.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,12:48) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2013,15:45) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 06 2013,08:54) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 03 2013,18:47) Learn ,learn,and learn Yes T
2beeThere are three bible version that I trust to be good ,
1) the KJV 1611
2) the NIV 1984
3) the NETBIBLE ,first edition.If you can read any of them and believe every word that is said ,you will find your knowledge increased a 1000 fold, and also do not add or subtract anything from it,
All his in it ,you just have to let it work through your heart,but you have to inserted their first ,
Hi Pierre,Oh yea, so did Christ send out “7O” or “72” then?
1) “After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two
and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.” (Luke 10:1)2) After this the Lord appointed seventy-two others and sent them two
by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go. (N.I.V.)God bless
Ed J
Hi Pierre,Concerning Issac,
Abraham's “Only Begotten Son”,
what did God tell Abraham to with him?1) offer him there for a burnt offering (Gen 22:2)
2) Sacrifice him (N.I.V.)
These are clearly not the same. In the perversion
(N.I.V.), Abraham either disobeyed God or God lied.But you will likely defend the perversion on this, instead of seeing
that the N.I.V.is a perversion of God's word, which it clearly is.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjYou seem to looking at details that in one case some of the manuscripts says one thing and others say a little differently ,but it all can be understood !as Abraham offering his only son as an sacrifice ,!
So you are just pay more attention to the paper on witch the message has been written than the message in it self,The same goe's for your previous quote about 70 and 72
The message is not 70 or 72 but it is the sending of preachers of the gospel ,so even there would be only 20 or 200 tell me what difference in the message would it do
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2013,04:30) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,12:48) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2013,15:45) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 06 2013,08:54) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 03 2013,18:47) Learn ,learn,and learn Yes T
2beeThere are three bible version that I trust to be good ,
1) the KJV 1611
2) the NIV 1984
3) the NETBIBLE ,first edition.If you can read any of them and believe every word that is said ,you will find your knowledge increased a 1000 fold, and also do not add or subtract anything from it,
All his in it ,you just have to let it work through your heart,but you have to inserted their first ,
Hi Pierre,Oh yea, so did Christ send out “7O” or “72” then?
1) “After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two
and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.” (Luke 10:1)2) After this the Lord appointed seventy-two others and sent them two
by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go. (N.I.V.)God bless
Ed J
Hi Pierre,Concerning Issac,
Abraham's “Only Begotten Son”,
what did God tell Abraham to with him?1) offer him there for a burnt offering (Gen 22:2)
2) Sacrifice him (N.I.V.)
These are clearly not the same. In the perversion
(N.I.V.), Abraham either disobeyed God or God lied.But you will likely defend the perversion on this, instead of seeing
that the N.I.V.is a perversion of God's word, which it clearly is.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjYou seem to looking at details that in one case some of the manuscripts says one thing and others say a little differently ,but it all can be understood !as Abraham offering his only son as an sacrifice ,!
So you are just pay more attention to the paper on witch the message has been written than the message in it self,The same goe's for your previous quote about 70 and 72
The message is not 70 or 72 but it is the sending of preachers of the gospel ,so even there would be only 20 or 200 tell me what difference in the message would it do
How many then?70 or 72 ?
Hi Pierre,
So Abraham did not Sacrifice his son then correct,
THEN THE n.i.v. IS CLEARLY WRONG!
But I knew you were going to defend this perversion of God's word.Are you OK with this perversion as well…
“Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, the house of Israel with deceit.
And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One.” (N.I.V.)“Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit:
but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints.” (Hosea 11:12)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2013,05:53) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2013,04:30) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,12:48) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2013,15:45) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 06 2013,08:54) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 03 2013,18:47) Learn ,learn,and learn Yes T
2beeThere are three bible version that I trust to be good ,
1) the KJV 1611
2) the NIV 1984
3) the NETBIBLE ,first edition.If you can read any of them and believe every word that is said ,you will find your knowledge increased a 1000 fold, and also do not add or subtract anything from it,
All his in it ,you just have to let it work through your heart,but you have to inserted their first ,
Hi Pierre,Oh yea, so did Christ send out “7O” or “72” then?
1) “After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two
and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.” (Luke 10:1)2) After this the Lord appointed seventy-two others and sent them two
by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go. (N.I.V.)God bless
Ed J
Hi Pierre,Concerning Issac,
Abraham's “Only Begotten Son”,
what did God tell Abraham to with him?1) offer him there for a burnt offering (Gen 22:2)
2) Sacrifice him (N.I.V.)
These are clearly not the same. In the perversion
(N.I.V.), Abraham either disobeyed God or God lied.But you will likely defend the perversion on this, instead of seeing
that the N.I.V.is a perversion of God's word, which it clearly is.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjYou seem to looking at details that in one case some of the manuscripts says one thing and others say a little differently ,but it all can be understood !as Abraham offering his only son as an sacrifice ,!
So you are just pay more attention to the paper on witch the message has been written than the message in it self,The same goe's for your previous quote about 70 and 72
The message is not 70 or 72 but it is the sending of preachers of the gospel ,so even there would be only 20 or 200 tell me what difference in the message would it do
How many then?70 or 72 ?
EDJNET ©
After this 1 the Lord appointed seventy-two 2 others and sent them on ahead of him two by two into every town 3 and place where he himself was about to go.
NET © Notes
1 tn Grk “And after these things.” Here δέ (de) has not been translated.
2 tc There is a difficult textual problem here and in v. 17, where the number is either “seventy” (א A C L W Θ Ξ Ψ Ë1,13 Ï and several church fathers and early versions) or “seventy-two” (Ì75 B D 0181 pc lat as well as other versions and fathers). The more difficult reading is “seventy-two,” since scribes would be prone to assimilate this passage to several OT passages that refer to groups of seventy people (Num 11:13-17; Deut 10:22; Judg 8:30; 2 Kgs 10:1 et al.); this reading also has slightly better ms support. “Seventy” could be the preferred reading if scribes drew from the tradition of the number of translators of the LXX, which the Letter of Aristeas puts at seventy-two (TCGNT 127), although this is far less likely. All things considered, “seventy-two” is a much more difficult reading and accounts for the rise of the other. Only Luke notes a second larger mission like the one in 9:1-6.
3 tn Or “city.”Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2013,06:05) Hi Pierre, So Abraham did not Sacrifice his son then correct,
THEN THE n.i.v. IS CLEARLY WRONG!
But I knew you were going to defend this perversion of God's word.Are you OK with this perversion as well…
“Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, the house of Israel with deceit.
And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One.” (N.I.V.)“Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit:
but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints.” (Hosea 11:12)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ
NET © Notes
1 sn Beginning with 11:12, the verse numbers through 12:14 in the English Bible differ by one from the verse numbers in the Hebrew text (BHS), with 11:12 ET = 12:1 HT, 12:1 ET = 12:2 HT, etc., through 12:14 ET = 12:15 HT. From 13:1 to 13:16 the verse numbers in the English Bible and the Hebrew Bible are again the same.
2 tn The phrase “has surrounded me” is not repeated in the Hebrew text here, but is implied by the parallelism in the preceding line. It is supplied in the translation for stylistic reasons, smoothness, and readability.
3 tn The verb רוּד (rud, “to roam about freely”) is used in a concrete sense to refer to someone wandering restlessly and roaming back and forth (BDB 923 s.v. רוּד; Judg 11:37). Here, it is used figuratively, possibly with positive connotations, as indicated by the preposition עִם (’im, “with”), to indicate accompaniment: “but Judah still goes about with God” (HALOT 1194 s.v. רוד). Some English versions render it positively: “Judah still walks with God” (RSV, NRSV); “Judah is restive under God” (REB); “but Judah stands firm with God” (NJPS); “but Judah yet ruleth with God” (KJV, ASV). Other English versions adopt the negative connotation “to wander restlessly” and nuance עִם in an adversative sense (“against”): “Judah is still rebellious against God” (NAB), “Judah is unruly against God” (NIV), and “the people of Judah are still rebelling against me” (TEV).Hos 11:12 Ephraim has surrounded me with lies,
the house of Israel with deceit.
And Judah is unruly against God,
even against the faithful Holy One.
Hos 12:1 Ephraim feeds on the wind;
he pursues the east wind all day
and multiplies lies and violence.
He makes a treaty with Assyria
and sends olive oil to Egypt.
Hos 12:2 The LORD has a charge to bring against Judah;
he will punish Jacob according to his ways
and repay him according to his deeds.
Hos 12:3 In the womb he grasped his brother’s heel;
as a man he struggled with God.
Hos 12:4 He struggled with the angel and overcame him;
he wept and begged for his favor.
He found him at Bethel
and talked with him there—
Hos 12:5 the LORD God Almighty,
the LORD is his name of renown!
Hos 12:6 But you must return to your God;
maintain love and justice,
and wait for your God always.IF WE READ THE CONTEXT IT APPEAR THAT IT IS THE ” NIV” THAT AS IT RIGHT ,IF IT HIS A PROPHECY IT IS STILL CORRECT TO THE TRUTH OF SCRIPTURES,
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2013,13:42) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2013,05:53) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2013,04:30) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,12:48) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2013,15:45) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 06 2013,08:54) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 03 2013,18:47) Learn ,learn,and learn Yes T
2beeThere are three bible version that I trust to be good ,
1) the KJV 1611
2) the NIV 1984
3) the NETBIBLE ,first edition.If you can read any of them and believe every word that is said ,you will find your knowledge increased a 1000 fold, and also do not add or subtract anything from it,
All his in it ,you just have to let it work through your heart,but you have to inserted their first ,
Hi Pierre,Oh yea, so did Christ send out “7O” or “72” then?
1) “After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two
and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.” (Luke 10:1)2) After this the Lord appointed seventy-two others and sent them two
by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go. (N.I.V.)God bless
Ed J
Hi Pierre,Concerning Issac,
Abraham's “Only Begotten Son”,
what did God tell Abraham to with him?1) offer him there for a burnt offering (Gen 22:2)
2) Sacrifice him (N.I.V.)
These are clearly not the same. In the perversion
(N.I.V.), Abraham either disobeyed God or God lied.But you will likely defend the perversion on this, instead of seeing
that the N.I.V.is a perversion of God's word, which it clearly is.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjYou seem to looking at details that in one case some of the manuscripts says one thing and others say a little differently ,but it all can be understood !as Abraham offering his only son as an sacrifice ,!
So you are just pay more attention to the paper on witch the message has been written than the message in it self,The same goe's for your previous quote about 70 and 72
The message is not 70 or 72 but it is the sending of preachers of the gospel ,so even there would be only 20 or 200 tell me what difference in the message would it do
How many then?70 or 72 ?
EDJNET ©
After this 1 the Lord appointed seventy-two 2 others and sent them on ahead of him two by two into every town 3 and place where he himself was about to go.
NET © Notes
1 tn Grk “And after these things.” Here δέ (de) has not been translated.
2 tc There is a difficult textual problem here and in v. 17, where the number is either “seventy” (א A C L W Θ Ξ Ψ Ë1,13 Ï and several church fathers and early versions) or “seventy-two” (Ì75 B D 0181 pc lat as well as other versions and fathers). The more difficult reading is “seventy-two,” since scribes would be prone to assimilate this passage to several OT passages that refer to groups of seventy people (Num 11:13-17; Deut 10:22; Judg 8:30; 2 Kgs 10:1 et al.); this reading also has slightly better ms support. “Seventy” could be the preferred reading if scribes drew from the tradition of the number of translators of the LXX, which the Letter of Aristeas puts at seventy-two (TCGNT 127), although this is far less likely. All things considered, “seventy-two” is a much more difficult reading and accounts for the rise of the other. Only Luke notes a second larger mission like the one in 9:1-6.
3 tn Or “city.”
Hi Pierre,I don't read others 'notes'
do you have something to say?
Concerning the change from 70 to 72?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEdj
They are both found in the old manuscripts so like I told you ,what difference does it make to the message
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2013,18:50) Edj They are both found in the old manuscripts so like I told you ,what difference does it make to the message
One is the truth, the other is a lie.Do you consider lies to be equal with truth?
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2013,21:06) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2013,18:50) Edj They are both found in the old manuscripts so like I told you ,what difference does it make to the message
One is the truth, the other is a lie.Do you consider lies to be equal with truth?
Hi Pierre,If I can prove to you that “70” is the correct number,
will you stop studying form previsions of Scripture?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2013,16:06) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2013,18:50) Edj They are both found in the old manuscripts so like I told you ,what difference does it make to the message
One is the truth, the other is a lie.Do you consider lies to be equal with truth?
EdjTheir are truths that lead to live ,and their are lies that lead to dead ,
But their are truths that are just truths ,and their are lies that do not lead to dead,
You do not answer my question and then instead you make a proposal what would be of no help to me ,but make me a prisoner of a bible version
What in my opinion his not perfect and contains other errors,Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2013,04:08) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2013,16:06) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 07 2013,18:50) Edj They are both found in the old manuscripts so like I told you ,what difference does it make to the message
One is the truth, the other is a lie.Do you consider lies to be equal with truth?
EdjTheir are truths that lead to live ,and their are lies that lead to dead ,
But their are truths that are just truths ,and their are lies that do not lead to dead,
You do not answer my question and then instead you make a proposal what would be of no help to me ,but make me a prisoner of a bible version
What in my opinion his not perfect and contains other errors,
Hi Pierre,You're a prisoner of your own mind.
I answered the question in the quote.
What question are you referring to?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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