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  • #163387
    banana
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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2009,08:16)
    hi georg
    i am totaly right ,the truth is not with you ,this means that your intire explanation on the antichrist is man made imagination,
    and unless you dont have knowledge of God word.

    false teacher are still around ??????


    terraricca

    Read what I told Nick, I don't like to repeat myself.

    Georg

    #163395
    terraricca
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    hi georg
    wich one ther are so many?????

    #163415
    banana
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    terraricca

    All of them.

    Georg

    #163416
    terraricca
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    hi georg
    anyone whos read you, know s, i dont have to show no more.

    #163421
    banana
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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2009,10:38)
    hi georg
    anyone whos read you, know s, i dont have to show no more.


    NO, you're supposed to read more.

    Georg

    #216600
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (banana @ Dec. 10 2009,02:28)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 09 2009,20:22)
    Hi Georg,
    Do you think you are always right or only partly right at times?


    Nick

    Until you, or some one else, does prove me wrong, I will believe that I am right; but it has to be done with scripture, not with accusations.
    I know, that will be hard for you.

    Georg


    georg

    this is old, but good time to be true.

    first; the fig tree = Nation of today Israel (1948 +)this is not scriptural unless it comes out of georg translation?
    secondly; Dan ;statue ;legs feet and toes (normally feet comes with toes) his Rome the empire.

    third; also Dan 7; the forth beast is also the Rome empire.

    I still wait if you believe this or still believe as you have printed.

    Pierre

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    Pierre

    As I have said before, you don't have to believe what I say; if you think what you believe makes more sense, than go ahead with it.
    But tell me this; who is head number seven? and who is the eights coming out of the seven?

    Are you antisemitic? do you have a reason not to like the Jews?
    I have given you many scriptures that say the opposite from what you say; why haven't you ever responded to them?
    Ya, your right, toes are attached to feet, who are attached to legs, who are attached to thighs, who are attached to belly, who are attached to chest, etc; get the picture?

    Let me just say this, if you play around, and not answer my questions, then I will take that as a “you don't know”, and you don't care.

    I tired of dancing with you.

    Ps, what does all this have to do with the seven trumpets?

    Georg

    #216663
    terraricca
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    Quote (Baker @ Sep. 18 2010,15:31)
    Pierre

    As I have said before, you don't have to believe what I say; if you think what you believe makes more sense, than go ahead with it.
    But tell me this; who is head number seven? and who is the eights coming out of the seven?

    Are you antisemitic? do you have a reason not to like the Jews?
    I have given you many scriptures that say the opposite from what you say; why haven't you ever responded to them?
    Ya, your right, toes are attached to feet, who are attached to legs, who are attached to thighs, who are attached to belly, who are attached to chest, etc; get the picture?

    Let me just say this, if you play around, and not answer my questions, then I will take that as a “you don't know”, and you don't care.

    I tired of dancing with you.

    Ps, what does all this have to do with the seven trumpets?

    Georg


    georg

    No, i do not hate the Jewish people at all,I have worked most of my live with them and for them,and some worked for me.

    as for the words of truth ,it as to be like the scriptures says,even you stated this,just because i have ask to explain why Dan 2 statue and Dan;7 the forth beast are ROME .
    if my question is valid why do you give me such a difficulty??
    to answered it.

    I am not searching for my glory but for truth ,I know if you give explanation who do not reflect the truth then all your house of cards you build will fall.this is how we know it is false.and useless for any godly works.and may reflect on our own reputation.

    you will to have to assume all other requests to your conclusion.

    Pierre

    #216691
    Baker
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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 18 2010,09:34)

    Quote (Baker @ Sep. 18 2010,15:31)
    Pierre

    As I have said before, you don't have to believe what I say; if you think what you believe makes more sense, than go ahead with it.
    But tell me this; who is head number seven? and who is the eights coming out of the seven?

    Are you antisemitic? do you have a reason not to like the Jews?
    I have given you many scriptures that say the opposite from what you say; why haven't you ever responded to them?
    Ya, your right, toes are attached to feet, who are attached to legs, who are attached to thighs, who are attached to belly, who are attached to chest, etc; get the picture?

    Let me just say this, if you play around, and not answer my questions, then I will take that as a “you don't know”, and you don't care.

    I tired of dancing with you.

    Ps, what does all this have to do with the seven trumpets?

    Georg


    georg

    No, i do not hate the Jewish people at all,I have worked most of my live with them and for them,and some worked for me.

    as for the words of truth ,it as to be like the scriptures says,even you stated this,just because i have ask to explain why Dan 2 statue and Dan;7 the forth beast are ROME .
    if my question is valid why do you give me such a difficulty??
    to answered it.

    I am not searching for my glory but for truth ,I know if you give explanation who do not reflect the truth then all your house of cards you build will fall.this is how we know it is false.and useless for any godly works.and may reflect on our own reputation.

    you will to have to assume all other requests to your conclusion.

    Pierre


    Then why do you reject the word of God?
    How many scriptures did I give you, showing God will never reject his people; punish? yes, but not totally destroy or reject.
    Why did you avoid responding to those scriptures?
    And don't ask me, what scriptures?

    Any one that searches for truth, should at least consider what some one else has to say.

    Georg

    #216701
    terraricca
    Participant

    georg

    Quote
    Then why do you reject the word of God?
    How many scriptures did I give you, showing God will never reject his people; punish? yes, but not totally destroy or reject.
    Why did you avoid responding to those scriptures?
    And don't ask me, what scriptures?

    Any one that searches for truth, should at least consider what some one else has to say.

    Georg

    Jos 23:14 “Now I am about to go the way of all the earth. You know with all your heart and soul that not one of all the good promises the LORD your God gave you has failed. Every promise has been fulfilled; not one has failed.
    Jos 23:15 But just as every good promise of the LORD your God has come true, so the LORD will bring on you all the evil he has threatened, until he has destroyed you from this good land he has given you.

    1Ki 2:4 and that the LORD may keep his promise to me: ‘If your descendants watch how they live, and if they walk faithfully before me with all their heart and soul, you will never fail to have a man on the throne of Israel.’

    1Ki 6:12 “As for this temple you are building, if you follow my decrees, carry out my regulations and keep all my commands and obey them, I will fulfill through you the promise I gave to David your father

    Ps 77:8 Has his unfailing love vanished forever?
    Has his promise failed for all time?
    Ps 105:42 For he remembered his holy promise
    given to his servant Abraham.

    Ps 119:38 Fulfill your promise to your servant,
    so that you may be feared.

    Ps 119:41 May your unfailing love come to me, O LORD,
    your salvation according to your promise;
    Ps 119:50 My comfort in my suffering is this:
    Your promise preserves my life.
    Ps 119:58 I have sought your face with all my heart;
    be gracious to me according to your promise.
    Ps 119:76 May your unfailing love be my comfort,
    according to your promise to your servant.
    Ps 119:82 My eyes fail, looking for your promise;
    I say, “When will you comfort me?”
    Ps 119:116 Sustain me according to your promise, and I will live;
    do not let my hopes be dashed.
    Ps 119:123 My eyes fail, looking for your salvation,
    looking for your righteous promise.
    Ps 119:154 Defend my cause and redeem me;
    preserve my life according to your promise.
    Ps 119:162 I rejoice in your promise
    like one who finds great spoil.
    Ps 119:170 May my supplication come before you;
    deliver me according to your promise.

    Jer 29:10 This is what the LORD says: “When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my gracious promise to bring you back to this place.
    Jer 33:14 “ ‘The days are coming,’ declares the LORD, ‘when I will fulfill the gracious promise I made to the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.

    Ac 26:7 This is the promise our twelve tribes are hoping to see fulfilled as they earnestly serve God day and night. O king, it is because of this hope that the Jews are accusing me.
    Ro 4:13 It was not through law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith.

    Ro 4:14 For if those who live by law are heirs, faith has no value and the promise is worthless,
    Ro 4:16 Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all.

    Ro 9:8 In other words, it is not the natural children who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.
    Ro 9:9 For this was how the promise was stated: “At the appointed time I will return, and Sarah will have a son.”
    Gal 3:14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit

    the few last verses show who is in the PROMISE.

    Pierre

    #216783
    Baker
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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 18 2010,19:10)
    georg

    Quote
    Then why do you reject the word of God?
    How many scriptures did I give you, showing God will never reject his people; punish? yes, but not totally destroy or reject.
    Why did you avoid responding to those scriptures?
    And don't ask me, what scriptures?

    Any one that searches for truth, should at least consider what some one else has to say.

    Georg

    Jos 23:14 “Now I am about to go the way of all the earth. You know with all your heart and soul that not one of all the good promises the LORD your God gave you has failed. Every promise has been fulfilled; not one has failed.
    Jos 23:15 But just as every good promise of the LORD your God has come true, so the LORD will bring on you all the evil he has threatened, until he has destroyed you from this good land he has given you.

    1Ki 2:4 and that the LORD may keep his promise to me: ‘If your descendants watch how they live, and if they walk faithfully before me with all their heart and soul, you will never fail to have a man on the throne of Israel.’

    1Ki 6:12 “As for this temple you are building, if you follow my decrees, carry out my regulations and keep all my commands and obey them, I will fulfill through you the promise I gave to David your father

    Ps 77:8 Has his unfailing love vanished forever?
    Has his promise failed for all time?
    Ps 105:42 For he remembered his holy promise
    given to his servant Abraham.

    Ps 119:38 Fulfill your promise to your servant,
    so that you may be feared.

    Ps 119:41 May your unfailing love come to me, O LORD,
    your salvation according to your promise;
    Ps 119:50 My comfort in my suffering is this:
    Your promise preserves my life.
    Ps 119:58 I have sought your face with all my heart;
    be gracious to me according to your promise.
    Ps 119:76 May your unfailing love be my comfort,
    according to your promise to your servant.
    Ps 119:82 My eyes fail, looking for your promise;
    I say, “When will you comfort me?”
    Ps 119:116 Sustain me according to your promise, and I will live;
    do not let my hopes be dashed.
    Ps 119:123 My eyes fail, looking for your salvation,
    looking for your righteous promise.
    Ps 119:154 Defend my cause and redeem me;
    preserve my life according to your promise.
    Ps 119:162 I rejoice in your promise
    like one who finds great spoil.
    Ps 119:170 May my supplication come before you;
    deliver me according to your promise.

    Jer 29:10 This is what the LORD says: “When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my gracious promise to bring you back to this place.
    Jer 33:14 “ ‘The days are coming,’ declares the LORD, ‘when I will fulfill the gracious promise I made to the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.

    Ac 26:7 This is the promise our twelve tribes are hoping to see fulfilled as they earnestly serve God day and night. O king, it is because of this hope that the Jews are accusing me.
    Ro 4:13 It was not through law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith.

    Ro 4:14 For if those who live by law are heirs, faith has no value and the promise is worthless,
    Ro 4:16 Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all.

    Ro 9:8 In other words, it is not the natural children who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.
    Ro 9:9 For this was how the promise was stated: “At the appointed time I will return, and Sarah will have a son.”
    Gal 3:14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit

    the few last verses show who is in the PROMISE.

    Pierre


    Zec 10:6   And I will strengthen the house of Judah, and I will save the house of Joseph, and I will bring them again to place them; for I have mercy upon them: and they shall be as though I had not cast them off: for I am the LORD their God, and will hear them.  

    Zec 12:9   And it shall come to pass in that day (yet future), that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.  

    Zec 8:13   And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.  

    Zec 14:16 ¶ And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.  

    Zec 8:22   Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD.  

    Zec 8:23   Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.  

    Now try, and respond to these scriptures if you will.
    Does this look like God has rejected his people?

    What is the purpose of puting up all those scriptures? what are you trying to show?

    Georg

    #216796
    terraricca
    Participant

    georg

    This makes us believe that you came from God.”
    Jn 16:31 “You believe at last!”Jesus answered.
    Jn 16:32 “But a time is coming, and has come, when you will be scattered, each to his own home. You will leave me all alone. Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me.
    Jn 16:33 “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world

    Jn 17:6 “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.
    Jn 17:7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you.
    Jn 17:8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.
    Jn 17:9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours.
    Jn 17:10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.
    Jn 17:11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name—the name you gave me—so that they may be one as we are one.

    Jn 17:14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world.
    Jn 17:15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.
    Jn 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of it.
    Jn 17:17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.
    Jn 17:18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world.
    Jn 17:19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified

    Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
    Jn 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
    Jn 17:22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one:
    Jn 17:23 I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me

    Jn 17:25 “Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me.
    Jn 17:26 I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”

    IN WICH OF THOSE VERSES DO YOU FIT THE TODAY Israel ??OR THE AFTER 70 AD.ISRAEL ?

    Pierre

    #216816
    Baker
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    Pierre

    Jer 31:35 ¶ Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:

    Jer 31:36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

    Jer 31:37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

    Jer 33:25 ¶ Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;

    Jer 33:26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.

    Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.

    Eze 36:22 ¶ Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

    Eze 36:24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

    Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

    Zec 8:13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.

    Now, which of these scriptures tell “YOU”, that God is done with Israel?

    Georg

    #216843
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Sep. 20 2010,13:42)
    Pierre

    Jer 31:35 ¶ Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:  

    Jer 31:36   If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.  

    Jer 31:37   Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.  

    Jer 33:25 ¶ Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;  

    Jer 33:26   Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.  

    Jer 46:28   Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.  

    Eze 36:22 ¶ Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.  

    Eze 36:24   For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.  

    Eze 37:22   And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:  

    Zec 8:13   And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.  

    Now, which of these scriptures tell “YOU”, that God is done with Israel?

    Georg


    georg

    Heb 3:1 Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess.
    Heb 6:4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,
    Heb 9:23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
    Heb 11:16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
    Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,
    Jas 1:17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.

    Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

    the old Israel as been dealt with in 70 AD, from then on Israel can not observe the law can not worship God by the means of the law.
    there present worship is useless ,they have now to accept
    Christ just as the gentiles,

    this is the way of God ,Christ is the door.

    Pierre

    #217184
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2010,09:58)

    Quote (Baker @ Sep. 20 2010,13:42)
    Pierre

    Jer 31:35 ¶ Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:  

    Jer 31:36   If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.  

    Jer 31:37   Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.  

    Jer 33:25 ¶ Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;  

    Jer 33:26   Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.  

    Jer 46:28   Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.  

    Eze 36:22 ¶ Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.  

    Eze 36:24   For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.  

    Eze 37:22   And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:  

    Zec 8:13   And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.  

    Now, which of these scriptures tell “YOU”, that God is done with Israel?

    Georg


    georg

    Heb 3:1 Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess.
    Heb 6:4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,
    Heb 9:23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
    Heb 11:16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
    Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,
    Jas 1:17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.

    Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

    the old Israel as been dealt with in 70 AD, from then on Israel can not observe the law can not worship God by the means of the law.
    there present worship is useless ,they have now to accept
    Christ just as the gentiles,

    this is the way of God ,Christ is the door.

    Pierre


    You have a hard time facing up to truth, don't you? even when it comes from the word of God.
    THAT IS WHAT I CALL, TRAGIC!

    Georg

    #217191
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Sep. 23 2010,11:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2010,09:58)

    Quote (Baker @ Sep. 20 2010,13:42)
    Pierre

    Jer 31:35 ¶ Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:  

    Jer 31:36   If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.  

    Jer 31:37   Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.  

    Jer 33:25 ¶ Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;  

    Jer 33:26   Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.  

    Jer 46:28   Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.  

    Eze 36:22 ¶ Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.  

    Eze 36:24   For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.  

    Eze 37:22   And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:  

    Zec 8:13   And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.  

    Now, which of these scriptures tell “YOU”, that God is done with Israel?

    Georg


    georg

    Heb 3:1 Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess.
    Heb 6:4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,
    Heb 9:23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
    Heb 11:16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
    Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,
    Jas 1:17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.

    Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

    the old Israel as been dealt with in 70 AD, from then on Israel can not observe the law can not worship God by the means of the law.
    there present worship is useless ,they have now to accept
    Christ just as the gentiles,

    this is the way of God ,Christ is the door.

    Pierre


    You have a hard time facing up to truth, don't you? even when it comes from the word of God.
    THAT IS WHAT I CALL, TRAGIC!

    Georg


    georg

    no scriptures against mine in Hebrew;

    yeah

    #217617
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 23 2010,05:21)

    Quote (Baker @ Sep. 23 2010,11:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2010,09:58)

    Quote (Baker @ Sep. 20 2010,13:42)
    Pierre

    Jer 31:35 ¶ Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:  

    Jer 31:36   If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.  

    Jer 31:37   Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.  

    Jer 33:25 ¶ Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;  

    Jer 33:26   Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.  

    Jer 46:28   Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.  

    Eze 36:22 ¶ Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.  

    Eze 36:24   For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.  

    Eze 37:22   And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:  

    Zec 8:13   And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.  

    Now, which of these scriptures tell “YOU”, that God is done with Israel?

    Georg


    georg

    Heb 3:1 Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess.
    Heb 6:4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,
    Heb 9:23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
    Heb 11:16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
    Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,
    Jas 1:17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.

    Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

    the old Israel as been dealt with in 70 AD, from then on Israel can not observe the law can not worship God by the means of the law.
    there present worship is useless ,they have now to accept
    Christ just as the gentiles,

    this is the way of God ,Christ is the door.

    Pierre


    You have a hard time facing up to truth, don't you? even when it comes from the word of God.
    THAT IS WHAT I CALL, TRAGIC!

    Georg


    georg

    no scriptures against mine in Hebrew;

    yeah


    Why is it that you keep avoiding commenting on the scriptures from Ezekiel, and Jeremiah?
    And while you're add it, tell me what the scriptures from Hebrews have to do with the scriptures I gave you.

    Georg

    #217625
    terraricca
    Participant

    [Why is it that you keep avoiding commenting on the scriptures from Ezekiel, and Jeremiah?
    And while you're add it, tell me what the scriptures from Hebrews have to do with the scriptures I gave you.

    Georg]

    georg

    first Eze; deals with the coming of Christ,and heavenly temple,
    Jeremiah threats with the destruction of Jerusalem trough the Babylonians,and for cast the return after the 70 years.and other things .

    as for Hebrew;

    Heb 3:1 Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess.
    Heb 6:4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,
    Heb 9:23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
    Heb 11:16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
    Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,

    I taught you would understand, that the apostles never spook about the old Jerusalem but about the new Jerusalem the heavenly one, this one is now in the presence of God ,and who will in time come down on earth .

    this is the true Jerusalem the city of God.

    Pierre

    #217674
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 26 2010,15:01)
    [Why is it that you keep avoiding commenting on the scriptures from Ezekiel, and Jeremiah?
    And while you're add it, tell me what the scriptures from Hebrews have to do with the scriptures I gave you.

    Georg]

    georg

    first Eze; deals with the coming of Christ,and heavenly temple,
    Jeremiah threats with the destruction of Jerusalem trough the Babylonians,and for cast the return after the 70 years.and other things .

    as for Hebrew;

    Heb 3:1 Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess.
    Heb 6:4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,
    Heb 9:23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
    Heb 11:16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
    Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,

    I taught you would understand, that the apostles never spook about the old Jerusalem but about the new Jerusalem  the heavenly one, this one is now in the presence of God ,and who will in time come down on earth .

    this is the true Jerusalem the city of God.

    Pierre


    When you don't understand, you don't understand; you just hate to admit it; don't you?
    Must some how go against your grain.

    Georg

    #217677
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Sep. 18 2010,17:22)
    Any one that searches for truth, should at least consider what some one else has to say.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    Does this apply to you as well?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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