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    Tim Kraft
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    Seminaries around the country tend to clone preachers with the same doctrines and beliefs that they were taught with a little tweaking here and there.If it is wrong then the blind are still leading the blind and both will end up in the pit of pain and suffering.Lets try to erase all doctrines about destruction and wrath on people because Jesus came to reveal the Gospel of the Truth.That is good news. You might say, well somebody is not getting good news in the scriptures.True. Those who continue to proliferate Biblical bad news and destruction will get exactly what they believe in this world.As a man believeth in his heart, so he is. What is on the inside will be revealed outside.Whatever a person chooses to accept as their beliefs will come to pass in their life. Anyone that is of God is of peace, love, joy, longsuffering, meekness, kindness, gentleness etc.! You will reap in life that which you sow. If you sow evil,hate,destruction,wars,chaos etc. that is what you will reap in your life experiences. We must guard our hearts with all diligence. What you percieve as Truth you will believe as Truth,and therby experience that in your life.We have the mind of Christ which is the annointing power of God within. If we cover that power with beliefs that are anti-christ or not in line with Jesus Christ we will reap what we give out to the world. This is the Truth of the Gospel of God through Jesus. Please stop looking for physical war and devastation physically when those are pictures of what is going on in your mind. If we believe in evil, we will produce more evil. Only believe in good.God is Good and is omnipresent. With Love, Tim

    #126795
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi TK,
    You will need to sanitise the sacred scriptures to do this.
    Sorry but God does give plenty of warnings to men about Satan and the downside of following him.

    It would only be fair to do so.
    Tickling ears with sweet nothings does not have a good safety record either.

    #127222
    Cindy
    Participant

    Quote (Tim Kraft @ April 06 2009,22:20)
    Seminaries around the country tend to clone preachers with the same doctrines and beliefs that they were taught with a little tweaking here and there.If it is wrong then the blind are still leading the blind and both will end up in the pit of pain and suffering.Lets try to erase all doctrines about destruction and wrath on people because Jesus came to reveal the Gospel of the Truth.That is good news. You might say, well somebody is not getting good news in the scriptures.True. Those who continue to proliferate Biblical bad news and destruction will get exactly what they believe in this world.As a man believeth in his heart, so he is. What is on the inside will be revealed outside.Whatever a person chooses to accept as their beliefs will come to pass in their life. Anyone that is of God is of peace, love, joy, longsuffering, meekness, kindness, gentleness etc.! You will reap in life that which you sow. If you sow evil,hate,destruction,wars,chaos etc. that is what you will reap in your life experiences. We must guard our hearts with all diligence. What you percieve as Truth you will believe as Truth,and therby experience that in your life.We have the mind of Christ which is the annointing power of God within. If we cover that power with beliefs that are anti-christ or not in line with Jesus Christ we will reap what we give out to the world. This is the Truth of the Gospel of God through Jesus. Please stop looking for physical war and devastation physically when those are pictures of what is going on in your mind. If we believe in evil, we will produce more evil. Only believe in good.God is Good and is omnipresent. With Love, Tim


    Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah [and] against Jerusalem.
    Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

    Is all this going on in our minds?

    Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

    Is this not a real threat we face right now?

    Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

    Do you think God is kidding?

    #127233
    Tim Kraft
    Participant

    I think if you continue to read in those scripture's you will find that all those prophesies are before the great and terrible day of the Lord. God said I will send Elijah the prophet before the great and terrible day of the lord. Jesus interpreted that as John the Baptist. We need to make sure that if there is a great day and terrible day of the Lord who get's what. Its a great day for those who believe Jesus and accept the Gospel, good news of the Kingdom of God within. It's a terrible day for those who believe in pain, suffering, war, grief and all that goes along with evil. If the majority of people were to accept the Spirit of God within and thereby produce the fruits of the Spirit of Love, peace and joy where would all these physical wars and destruction be?
    When the majority of people emit Gods love the end will come for destruction.The Law and the Prophets are gone, over, finished according to Jesus Luke 16:16. Peace, Tim

    #127234
    Cindy
    Participant

    Isa 59:7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
    Isa 59:8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
    Isa 59:9 Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.

    We will never find peace by ourself; it takes Jesus to bring us peace.

    #127236
    theodorej
    Participant

    Quote (Cindy @ April 11 2009,19:52)

    Quote (Tim Kraft @ April 06 2009,22:20)
    Seminaries around the country tend to clone preachers with the same doctrines and beliefs that they were taught with a little tweaking here and there.If it is wrong then the blind are still leading the blind and both will end up in the pit of pain and suffering.Lets try to erase all doctrines about destruction and wrath on people because Jesus came to reveal the Gospel of the Truth.That is good news. You might say, well somebody is not getting good news in the scriptures.True. Those who continue to proliferate Biblical bad news and destruction will get exactly what they believe in this world.As a man believeth in his heart, so he is. What is on the inside will be revealed outside.Whatever a person chooses to accept as their beliefs will come to pass in their life. Anyone that is of God is of peace, love, joy, longsuffering, meekness, kindness, gentleness etc.! You will reap in life that which you sow. If you sow evil,hate,destruction,wars,chaos etc. that is what you will reap in your life experiences. We must guard our hearts with all diligence. What you percieve as Truth you will believe as Truth,and therby experience that in your life.We have the mind of Christ which is the annointing power of God within. If we cover that power with beliefs that are anti-christ or not in line with Jesus Christ we will reap what we give out to the world. This is the Truth of the Gospel of God through Jesus. Please stop looking for physical war and devastation physically when those are pictures of what is going on in your mind. If we believe in evil, we will produce more evil. Only believe in good.God is Good and is omnipresent. With Love, Tim


    Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah [and] against Jerusalem.  
    Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.  

    Is all this going on in our minds?

    Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.  

    Is this not a real threat we face right now?

    Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

    Do you think God is kidding?


    Greetings Georg……There is no doubt in my mind,God is not fooling around….We will see very shortly how burdensom a cup Jerusalem will become….The coalition in Israel,headed by Benjimen Netanyahu will do something affirmative in the next few months that the world along with the US will abandon any affiliation…Netanyahu' life could be in danger as a result..

    #127253
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Tim Kraft @ April 12 2009,01:41)
    I think if you continue to read in those scripture's you will find that all those prophesies are before the great and terrible day of the Lord. God said I will send Elijah the prophet before the great and terrible day of the lord. Jesus interpreted that as John the Baptist. We need to make sure that if there is a great day and terrible day of the Lord who get's what. Its a great day for those who believe Jesus and accept the Gospel, good news of the Kingdom of God within. It's a terrible day for those who believe in pain, suffering, war, grief and all that goes along with evil. If the majority of people were to accept the Spirit of God within and thereby produce the fruits of the Spirit of Love, peace and joy where would all these physical wars and destruction be?
    When the majority of people emit Gods love the end will come for destruction.The Law and the Prophets are gone, over, finished according to Jesus Luke 16:16. Peace, Tim


    Hi TK,
    We cannot just accept the Spirit within.

    It is the work of our God and His son to share God's Spirit.

    The way is narrow and few will walk there.

    #127435
    Cindy
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ April 12 2009,02:06)

    Quote (Cindy @ April 11 2009,19:52)

    Quote (Tim Kraft @ April 06 2009,22:20)
    Seminaries around the country tend to clone preachers with the same doctrines and beliefs that they were taught with a little tweaking here and there.If it is wrong then the blind are still leading the blind and both will end up in the pit of pain and suffering.Lets try to erase all doctrines about destruction and wrath on people because Jesus came to reveal the Gospel of the Truth.That is good news. You might say, well somebody is not getting good news in the scriptures.True. Those who continue to proliferate Biblical bad news and destruction will get exactly what they believe in this world.As a man believeth in his heart, so he is. What is on the inside will be revealed outside.Whatever a person chooses to accept as their beliefs will come to pass in their life. Anyone that is of God is of peace, love, joy, longsuffering, meekness, kindness, gentleness etc.! You will reap in life that which you sow. If you sow evil,hate,destruction,wars,chaos etc. that is what you will reap in your life experiences. We must guard our hearts with all diligence. What you percieve as Truth you will believe as Truth,and therby experience that in your life.We have the mind of Christ which is the annointing power of God within. If we cover that power with beliefs that are anti-christ or not in line with Jesus Christ we will reap what we give out to the world. This is the Truth of the Gospel of God through Jesus. Please stop looking for physical war and devastation physically when those are pictures of what is going on in your mind. If we believe in evil, we will produce more evil. Only believe in good.God is Good and is omnipresent. With Love, Tim


    Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah [and] against Jerusalem.  
    Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.  

    Is all this going on in our minds?

    Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.  

    Is this not a real threat we face right now?

    Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

    Do you think God is kidding?


    Greetings Georg……There is no doubt in my mind,God is not fooling around….We will see very shortly how burdensom a cup Jerusalem will become….The coalition in Israel,headed by Benjimen Netanyahu will do something affirmative in the next few months that the world along with the US will abandon any affiliation…Netanyahu' life could be in danger as a result..


    That day is approaching fast, the days of Noah are almost over; is any one paying attention?

    Georg

    #127460
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Georg,
    Yes it will not be long before Jesus returns.
    He has not done so yet.

    #127515
    Cindy
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2009,08:40)
    Hi Georg,
    Yes it will not be long before Jesus returns.
    He has not done so yet.


    And how would you prove that?

    #127522
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi georg,
    You should be the one to prove your assertion that he has returned.
    So far your shonky timelines have brought no useful help.

    #127550
    Cindy
    Participant

    Shonky is all you have Nick; why don't you tell us what these times that I gave you from the bible mean. If you say I'm wrong, you must have the true answer. Give us your understanding, we're all waiting.

    Georg

    #127563
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi georg,
    Why are you fossilised in your own derivations?
    Wait a little longer and see the truth revealed when he returns.

    #127603
    Cindy
    Participant

    “fossilised, derivations”, now that is intelligence, and understanding; to which of my questions should I apply them?

    Georg

    #127622
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi georg,
    Everyone but you can see that your derivations that say Jesus returned 109 years ago are false.

    #127639
    Cindy
    Participant

    And you are “everyone”

    Georg

    #127641
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi georg,
    Nobody here seems to support the idea that Jesus came 109 years ago and we all missed out.

    2 Timothy 2:18
    men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and they upset the faith of some.

    #127643
    Cindy
    Participant

    If you know that nobody supports the idea of Christs return, than they must be talking to you because nobody else has responded to it.
    2 Tim. 2:18 was 2000 years ago, even the apostles thought then that Christ would return in their lifetime.

    Georg

    #127645
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Georg,
    Nothing has changed.
    2000 years later the same problems surface

    #127647
    Cindy
    Participant

    You are the best example for, “just as in the days of Noah”.

    Georg

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