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Quote (Ed J @ June 27 2013,00:10) Hi Wakeup, No doubt you will have more questions after I answer this post. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Still waiting,for more
What took you so longwakeup.
You need to try to stop having the same conversation on ALL the threads.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 27 2013,00:01) EDJ. Ok I am all ears; explain Jeremiah 25:32–38.
Go.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jer 25:32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. (This is referring to war)33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. (The war causes much desolation)34 Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter
and of your dispersions are accomplished; and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel. (Israel is also affected by the war)35 And the shepherds shall have no way to flee, nor the principal of the flock to escape. (Their leaders are also affected by the war)
36 A voice of the cry of the shepherds, and an howling of the principal of the flock, shall be heard:
for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture. (The Leaders complain to the LORD)37 And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the fierce anger of the LORD. (The destruction is far and wide)
38 He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor,
and because of his fierce anger. (This is what is going to happen in the war against islam)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 27 2013,00:25) You need to try to stop having the same conversation on ALL the threads. Quote (Wakeup @ June 27 2013,00:01) EDJ. Ok I am all ears; explain Jeremiah 25:32–38.
Go.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jer 25:32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. (This is referring to war)33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. (The war causes much desolation)34 Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter
and of your dispersions are accomplished; and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel. (Israel is also affected by the war)35 And the shepherds shall have no way to flee, nor the principal of the flock to escape. (Their leaders are also affected by the war)
36 A voice of the cry of the shepherds, and an howling of the principal of the flock, shall be heard:
for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture. (The Leaders complain to the LORD)37 And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the fierce anger of the LORD. (The destruction is far and wide)
38 He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor,
and because of his fierce anger. (This is what is going to happen in the war against islam)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.Are you saying that the shepherds and the principal of the flock are the world leaders?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 27 2013,00:38) Edj. Are you saying that the shepherds and the principal of the flock are the world leaders?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Not “World Leaders” – middle east leaders.
The “World Leaders” are the Christian Nations,
which are going to battle with the islamic nations.“The noise of a multitude in the mountains(Mountains are Nations), like as of
a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together:
the LORD of Hosts mustereth the host of the battle. They come from a far country(U.S.A.),
from the end of heaven(other side of the globe), even the LORD, and the weapons of his(GOD's)
indignation(against islam), to destroy the whole land(listed in both Jer.25:19-26 and Psalm 83:6-11).” (Isaiah 13:4-5)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 27 2013,00:54) Quote (Wakeup @ June 27 2013,00:38) Edj. Are you saying that the shepherds and the principal of the flock are the world leaders?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Not “World Leaders” – middle east leaders.
The “World Leaders” are the Christian Nations,
which are going to battle with the islamic nations.“The noise of a multitude in the mountains(Mountains are Nations), like as of
a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together:
the LORD of Hosts mustereth the host of the battle. They come from a far country(U.S.A.),
from the end of heaven(other side of the globe), even the LORD, and the weapons of his(GOD's)
indignation(against islam), to destroy the whole land(listed in both Jer.25:19-26 and Psalm 83:6-11).” (Isaiah 13:4-5)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.God said** and the land is desolate**
What land?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 27 2013,19:17) EDJ. God said** and the land is desolate**
What land?
wakeup.
This land…
Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,11:54) Quote (Wakeup @ June 27 2013,19:17) EDJ. God said** and the land is desolate**
What land?
wakeup.
This land…
EDJ.What you are saying is that God is angree because:
1.The muslem shepherds are not doing their job.
2. Because their land is desolate.
3. So its all about the muslems.Can you interpret these sriptures?
Jeremiah 25:12 And it shall come to pass, when *seventy years* are accomplished, that I will punish *the king of Babylon*, *and that nation*, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the *Chaldeans*, and will make it perpetual desolations.
Jeremiah 25:13 And I will bring upon that land all my words which I have pronounced against it, even all that is written in this book, which **Jeremiah hath prophesied against all the nations**.
Jeremiah 25:14 **For many nations** and **great kings shall serve themselves of them also**: and I will recompense them according to their deeds, and according to the works of their own hands.
Who are they that serve the king of babylon for 70yrs?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 28 2013,12:56) EDJ. 1.The muslem shepherds are not doing their job.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Keep this as simple as possible, OK?
Asking a bunch of questions at one time
DOES NOT make your belief more plausible.
Try to keep to one specific question at a time.1. The shepherds are middle-east Leaders, so
if war breaks out – THEY ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ June 28 2013,12:56) EDJ. Can you interpret these sriptures?
(1)Jeremiah 25:12 And it shall come to pass, when *seventy years* are accomplished, that I will punish *the king of Babylon*, *and that nation*, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the *Chaldeans*, and will make it perpetual desolations.
(2)Jeremiah 25:13 And I will bring upon that land all my words which I have pronounced against it, even all that is written in this book, which **Jeremiah hath prophesied against all the nations**.
(3)Jeremiah 25:14 **For many nations** and **great kings shall serve themselves of them also**: and I will recompense them according to their deeds, and according to the works of their own hands.
(4)Who are they that serve the king of babylon for 70yrs?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, sure, just don't give me too many at one time.1) This happened when the “Medo-Persian” Empire took over Babylon.
2) This is pretty clear, no further explanation is warranted here.
3) Israel is the focus, six other Empires also had control.
4) IsraelisGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org2 Timothy 4:1
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;The second coming and the kingdom go hand in hand.
Luke 13:29
And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.The kingdom is a geographical location.
Before one can sit in this kingdom, one must first travel there.
If the kingdom were literally within us, then no travel would be required.John 3:3
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.When we become born again at the 2nd coming we will see the kingdom of God.
1 Corinth 15:50
Now this i say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.Since we are still flesh and blood we can not be in the kingdom, which means we can not yet be born again either.
James 2:5 >Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
God has chosen the rich in faith…that is, Christians…
So this promise is to those who are already believers,
And since this was written after Pentecost, then the promise is given to those who already have the Holy Spirit (those Christians rich in faith)…And the promise is this, that they are to be heirs of a kingdom…
HEIRS
Christians are HEIRS…
And an heir stops being a heir when he inherits…
Again, this was written after Pentecost.
So Pentecost is NOT the coming of the kingdom.
again:1 Corinth 15:50
Now this i say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.If you are flesh & blood, then you are NOT in the kingdom YET.
If you say you are, then YOU are making God a LIAR.Quote (Devolution @ June 28 2013,16:52) 1 Corinth 15:50
Now this i say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.Since we are still flesh and blood we can not be in the kingdom, which means we can not yet be born again either.
“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9)Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,17:06) Quote (Devolution @ June 28 2013,16:52) 1 Corinth 15:50
Now this i say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.Since we are still flesh and blood we can not be in the kingdom, which means we can not yet be born again either.
“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9)
“The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here!
or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:20-21)Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,17:12) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,17:06) Quote (Devolution @ June 28 2013,16:52) 1 Corinth 15:50
Now this i say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.Since we are still flesh and blood we can not be in the kingdom, which means we can not yet be born again either.
“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9)
“The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here!
or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:20-21)
EdJ.There is a difference between; **YOU ARE INTHE SPIRIT** AND **YOU ARE SPIRIT**
WELL; NONE OF US ARE SPIRIT YET.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 28 2013,18:24) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,17:12) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,17:06) Quote (Devolution @ June 28 2013,16:52) 1 Corinth 15:50
Now this i say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.Since we are still flesh and blood we can not be in the kingdom, which means we can not yet be born again either.
“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9)
“The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here!
or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:20-21)
EdJ.There is a difference between; **YOU ARE INTHE SPIRIT** AND **YOU ARE SPIRIT**
WELL; NONE OF US ARE SPIRIT YET.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Rom 8:9 clearly cancels the meaning you're ascribing to 1Cor 15:50.
And your attempting to explain it away simply doesn't cut it my friend.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,20:16) Quote (Wakeup @ June 28 2013,18:24) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,17:12) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,17:06) Quote (Devolution @ June 28 2013,16:52) 1 Corinth 15:50
Now this i say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.Since we are still flesh and blood we can not be in the kingdom, which means we can not yet be born again either.
“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9)
“The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here!
or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:20-21)
EdJ.There is a difference between; **YOU ARE INTHE SPIRIT** AND **YOU ARE SPIRIT**
WELL; NONE OF US ARE SPIRIT YET.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Rom 8:9 clearly cancels the meaning you're ascribing to 1Cor 15:50.
And your attempting to explain it away simply doesn't cut it my friend.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, **BUT IN THE SPIRIT**, if so be that the Spirit of God **dwell in you**. Now if any man *have not* the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
READ IT WITH YOUR HEART MY FRIEND.
WE ARE NOT SPIRIT; BUT *IN* THE SPIRIT.
GOD DWELL IN US;ALSO DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE ARE GOD.THE HOLY SPIRIT DWELL IN US,DOESNT MEAN THAT WE ARE THE HOLY SPIRIT. HE JUST DWELLS IN US.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
Personally I don't care what you believe, but when YOU attempt to use 1Corinthians 15:50 to
PROVE your belief – I will simply show that Romans 8:9 clearly cancels the meaning you're ascribing.
As long as you don't have a problem with that we're cool – and if you do have a problem, it's not with me.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,21:20) Hi Wakeup, Personally I don't care what you believe, but when YOU attempt to use 1Corinthians 15:50 to
PROVE your belief – I will simply show that Romans 8:9 clearly cancels the meaning you're ascribing.
As long as you don't have a problem with that we're cool – and if you do have a problem, it's not with me.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.You are just deliberately being stubborn.
You need to refresh your English.
You can walk around thinking you are spirit;you are free in thinking.
But that does not mean you are spirit.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 28 2013,21:55) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,21:20) Hi Wakeup, Personally I don't care what you believe, but when YOU attempt to use 1Corinthians 15:50 to
PROVE your belief – I will simply show that Romans 8:9 clearly cancels the meaning you're ascribing.
As long as you don't have a problem with that we're cool – and if you do have a problem, it's not with me.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.You are just deliberately being stubborn.
You need to refresh your English.
You can walk around thinking you are spirit;you are free in thinking.
But that does not mean you are spirit.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Rom 8:9 proves that your understanding of 1Cor.15:50 is not correct. Answer this then:
How can the “Kingdom of God” be taken away from somebody that doesn't have it?“Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you,
and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.” (Matt 21:43)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,22:53) Quote (Wakeup @ June 28 2013,21:55) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,21:20) Hi Wakeup, Personally I don't care what you believe, but when YOU attempt to use 1Corinthians 15:50 to
PROVE your belief – I will simply show that Romans 8:9 clearly cancels the meaning you're ascribing.
As long as you don't have a problem with that we're cool – and if you do have a problem, it's not with me.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.You are just deliberately being stubborn.
You need to refresh your English.
You can walk around thinking you are spirit;you are free in thinking.
But that does not mean you are spirit.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Rom 8:9 proves that your understanding of 1Cor.15:50 is not correct. Answer this then:
How can the “Kingdom of God” be taken away from somebody that doesn't have it?“Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you,
and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.” (Matt 21:43)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.We all have the right to inherit the kingdom.
But if we dont live by the spirit of Christ;
we will be disowned.
The kingdom will be kept from us.
It will be taken away.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
So “TAKEN AWAY” really means 'kept from'?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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