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Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,13:02) Quote (Wakeup @ July 30 2012,19:33) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,11:31) wup Quote 4. And they are saying; who can make war with this beast?
(this means that this wounded beast became mighty powerful.and yes but who can make war against it
Terra.No other kingdom can make war with this mighty kingdom.
This kingdom is too strong.wakeup.
wuplook here;
Rev 19:19 Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army.
Rev 19:20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.
Rev 19:21 The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
Terra.Yes; and I have quoted them previously.
and the beast and the f.proph.(little horn)that is cast in the fire is the last beast,at the coming. The rider on the horse with the sword in his mouth is Christ.king of kings,Lord of Lord, THE WORD OF GOD.WAKEUP.
Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,12:56) Quote (Wakeup @ July 30 2012,19:36) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,11:26) wup Quote Thescarlet beast in rev.17. has 7heads(representing satan and his 7 empires,but today the 6heads are history. Now only the 7th heaad is here,and the 8th will come,but with 10 kings andthe false prophet(little horn with eyes and big mouth) will come after the 10 kings. and as he comes ,he will uproot 3 kings,so he must be powerful. if you understand what you say ,then please give more details because this does not make sense at all to me
Terra.Which part does not make sense?
wakeup.
wuprephrase this explanation with more details so that I can understand what you are saying ,(all of it )
Terra.Revelation 17:3. so he (the angel) carried me away in the wilderness(jungle,Forrest.where animals eat anymals)
John saw a woman(satans spiritual woman).
This woman is sitting on a scarlet colored beast(Satan);but the 7heads are his 7 empires starting with Egypt-assyria-bab-medo persia- grecia-rome-end time rome(today)(the 7th beast). the 8 will come out of this one.4. and this woman is very rich and full of luxurie,and pleasure.
and she is also full of abominations and she is also
spiritually desolate: a world with out God.
the cup in her hand is the wine that she is making her
children drunken.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 31 2012,02:02) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,13:02) Quote (Wakeup @ July 30 2012,19:33) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,11:31) wup Quote 4. And they are saying; who can make war with this beast?
(this means that this wounded beast became mighty powerful.and yes but who can make war against it
Terra.No other kingdom can make war with this mighty kingdom.
This kingdom is too strong.wakeup.
wuplook here;
Rev 19:19 Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army.
Rev 19:20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.
Rev 19:21 The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
Terra.Yes; and I have quoted them previously.
and the beast and the f.proph.(little horn)that is cast in the fire is the last beast,at the coming. The rider on the horse with the sword in his mouth is Christ.king of kings,Lord of Lord, THE WORD OF GOD.WAKEUP.
wakeupI pointed those scriptures to show you that there is a kingdom that will stand againgst the beast #7 (head)
Quote (Wakeup @ July 31 2012,02:24) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,12:56) Quote (Wakeup @ July 30 2012,19:36) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,11:26) wup Quote Thescarlet beast in rev.17. has 7heads(representing satan and his 7 empires,but today the 6heads are history. Now only the 7th heaad is here,and the 8th will come,but with 10 kings andthe false prophet(little horn with eyes and big mouth) will come after the 10 kings. and as he comes ,he will uproot 3 kings,so he must be powerful. if you understand what you say ,then please give more details because this does not make sense at all to me
Terra.Which part does not make sense?
wakeup.
wuprephrase this explanation with more details so that I can understand what you are saying ,(all of it )
Terra.Revelation 17:3. so he (the angel) carried me away in the wilderness(jungle,Forrest.where animals eat anymals)
John saw a woman(satans spiritual woman).
This woman is sitting on a scarlet colored beast(Satan);but the 7heads are his 7 empires starting with Egypt-assyria-bab-medo persia- grecia-rome-end time rome(today)(the 7th beast). the 8 will come out of this one.4. and this woman is very rich and full of luxurie,and pleasure.
and she is also full of abominations and she is also
spiritually desolate: a world with out God.
the cup in her hand is the wine that she is making her
children drunken.wakeup.
wakeupQuote John saw a woman(satans spiritual woman). not in scriptures,it is Satan himself, with his angels = just as in revelation 12 ,the woman what his, God and his angels,
both have produce an offspring ;Gen 3;15 and they have been in opposition sinse the beginning and God through his son will destroy the opposition
Quote (Devolution @ July 30 2012,20:56) terraricca,July wrote:[/quote]
Pierre,Quote if Satan the snake can produced an offspring then he is represented as a women I think God produces offspring too Pierre.
Is God the Father ever described as a woman anywhere in scripture?
NO…never.
wakeupwe are not talking of who his the father we know God his the father and satan his the father of lies
but both have produce an offspring
Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,08:57) Quote (Devolution @ July 30 2012,20:56) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,12:59)
Pierre,Quote if Satan the snake can produced an offspring then he is represented as a women I think God produces offspring too Pierre.
Is God the Father ever described as a woman anywhere in scripture?
NO…never.
wakeupwe are not talking of who his the father we know God his the father and satan his the father of lies
but both have produce an offspring
Terra.God has his children the saints and Zion is the mother.
Satan has his children the whicked ones and the woman babylon is the mother.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 31 2012,16:28) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,08:57) Quote (Devolution @ July 30 2012,20:56) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,12:59)
Pierre,Quote if Satan the snake can produced an offspring then he is represented as a women I think God produces offspring too Pierre.
Is God the Father ever described as a woman anywhere in scripture?
NO…never.
wakeupwe are not talking of who his the father we know God his the father and satan his the father of lies
but both have produce an offspring
Terra.God has his children the saints and Zion is the mother.
wakeup.
wakeupQuote Satan has his children the whicked ones and the woman babylon is the mother. then Satan did not build Babylon
babylon the great his Satan + organization and the children of that organization are men that act and think like he does ,
by the expression MOTHER this only means that he is the originator of it all.(give birth to it )
Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,09:34) Quote (Wakeup @ July 31 2012,16:28) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,08:57) Quote (Devolution @ July 30 2012,20:56) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,12:59)
Pierre,Quote if Satan the snake can produced an offspring then he is represented as a women I think God produces offspring too Pierre.
Is God the Father ever described as a woman anywhere in scripture?
NO…never.
wakeupwe are not talking of who his the father we know God his the father and satan his the father of lies
but both have produce an offspring
Terra.God has his children the saints and Zion is the mother.
wakeup.
wakeupQuote Satan has his children the whicked ones and the woman babylon is the mother. then Satan did not build Babylon
babylon the great his Satan + organization and the children of that organization are men that act and think like he does ,
by the expression MOTHER this only means that he is the originator of it all.(give birth to it )
Terra.Zion is Gods philisophy(teachings).Gods way of living our lives that will lead to everlasting life.
Babylon the great the mother of–harlots(false religions) and abominations of desolation,is satans philosophy(teachings)
satan believe in living free without God involved;without the laws. This will lead to destruction.(death).wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 31 2012,16:49) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,09:34) Quote (Wakeup @ July 31 2012,16:28) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,08:57) Quote (Devolution @ July 30 2012,20:56) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,12:59)
Pierre,Quote if Satan the snake can produced an offspring then he is represented as a women I think God produces offspring too Pierre.
Is God the Father ever described as a woman anywhere in scripture?
NO…never.
wakeupwe are not talking of who his the father we know God his the father and satan his the father of lies
but both have produce an offspring
Terra.God has his children the saints and Zion is the mother.
wakeup.
wakeupQuote Satan has his children the whicked ones and the woman babylon is the mother. then Satan did not build Babylon
babylon the great his Satan + organization and the children of that organization are men that act and think like he does ,
by the expression MOTHER this only means that he is the originator of it all.(give birth to it )
Terra.Zion is Gods philisophy(teachings).Gods way of living our lives that will lead to everlasting life.
Babylon the great the mother of–harlots(false religions) and abominations of desolation,is satans philosophy(teachings)
satan believe in living free without God involved;without the laws. This will lead to destruction.(death).wakeup.
wakeupwell here too we disagree ,but you should read all those scriptures again, and see if you are wright ??
Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,09:51) Quote (Wakeup @ July 31 2012,16:49) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,09:34) Quote (Wakeup @ July 31 2012,16:28) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,08:57) Quote (Devolution @ July 30 2012,20:56) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,12:59)
Pierre,Quote if Satan the snake can produced an offspring then he is represented as a women I think God produces offspring too Pierre.
Is God the Father ever described as a woman anywhere in scripture?
NO…never.
wakeupwe are not talking of who his the father we know God his the father and satan his the father of lies
but both have produce an offspring
Terra.God has his children the saints and Zion is the mother.
wakeup.
wakeupQuote Satan has his children the whicked ones and the woman babylon is the mother. then Satan did not build Babylon
babylon the great his Satan + organization and the children of that organization are men that act and think like he does ,
by the expression MOTHER this only means that he is the originator of it all.(give birth to it )
Terra.Zion is Gods philisophy(teachings).Gods way of living our lives that will lead to everlasting life.
Babylon the great the mother of–harlots(false religions) and abominations of desolation,is satans philosophy(teachings)
satan believe in living free without God involved;without the laws. This will lead to destruction.(death).wakeup.
wakeupwell here too we disagree ,but you should read all those scriptures again, and see if you are wright ??
Terra.So what is it that you are disagreeing with?And why?
wakeup.
wakeup
Quote Zion is Gods philisophy(teachings).Gods way of living our lives that will lead to everlasting life. this ,this is not what ZION his read scriptures
Quote I pointed those scriptures to show you that there is a kingdom that will stand againgst the beast #7 (head) Pierre,
It's the 7th head that has the 10 horns, when these 10 horns come up, it turns into the 8th.Wakeup showed you this scripture;
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshiped the beast, saying Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?
Does this not tell you that this beast is so strong that none dare to attack him?
Well this is true for a space of time
The people (unknowingly) worshiped the beast that the dragon gave power to, and the people were amazed at his strength and power. The people are saying this “Who can make war with the beast?” (who dares)
God is not saying this himself. He's revealing what the people are saying and thinking in their hearts. They are in awe of this mighty beast, which is the last kingdom. The head with the 10 horns.Rev 13:5 And there was given him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
He is only given power for three and a half years.but….
Daniel 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
Daniel is speaking of this same beast in Rev 13
and says at the end, the king of the south shall push at him, and the king of the north shall come against him and he, (not they) shall enter into the countries, and overflow and pass them.
Pass them? Where are they heading?Daniel 11:41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown; but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
So all this must take time, and whilst he's entering the countries and overflowing them (with his armies), he also goes into ISRAEL (the glorious land) and many countries shall be overthrown by him (conquered – taken over) and only a few escape out of his hand.
Why?Daniel 11:44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy and utterly to make away many.
Daniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
..but he shall COME TO HIS END, and no one will help him. Why?Because Christ intervenes now, and stops that war.
Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
IsraelDaniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Michael is the angel watching over Israel. This big war was happening here in Israel. There is a remnant that will be saved of Israel, and everyone of those remnant (chosen by election) will be saved.Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame, and everlasting contempt.
This is condensed, as we know that only those in Christ will be resurrected at Christ's coming, and the rest, after the 1000 year reign (Great Judgement)Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,11:16) wakeup Quote Zion is Gods philisophy(teachings).Gods way of living our lives that will lead to everlasting life. this ,this is not what ZION his read scriptures
Terra.Isiah66:7. Before SHE travailed SHE brought forth; before her pain came SHE was delivered of a man child.
v.8. —-as soon as Zion travailed,she brought fort her children.
Micah. 4:10. Be in pain,and labour to bring forth,O daughter of Zion,like a woman in travail: ——
Who is this woman? this SHE?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,06:30) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,11:16) wakeup Quote Zion is Gods philisophy(teachings).Gods way of living our lives that will lead to everlasting life. this ,this is not what ZION his read scriptures
Terra.Isiah66:7. Before SHE travailed SHE brought forth; before her pain came SHE was delivered of a man child.
v.8. —-as soon as Zion travailed,she brought fort her children.
Micah. 4:10. Be in pain,and labour to bring forth,O daughter of Zion,like a woman in travail: ——
Who is this woman? this SHE?
wakeup.
wakeup1KI 8:1 Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel and all the heads of the tribes, the leaders of the fathers’ households of the sons of Israel, to King Solomon in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD from the city of David, which is Zion.
2KI 19:31 ‘For out of Jerusalem will go forth a remnant, and out of Mount Zion survivors. The zeal of the LORD will perform this.
PS 2:6 “But as for Me, I have installed My King
Upon Zion, My holy mountain.”Oh, that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When the LORD restores His captive people,
Jacob will rejoice, Israel will be glad.PS 20:2 May He send you help from the sanctuary
And support you from Zion!PS 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty,
God has shone forthREV 14:1 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.
Da 2:34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them.
The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.
Da 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2012,00:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,06:30) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,11:16) wakeup Quote Zion is Gods philisophy(teachings).Gods way of living our lives that will lead to everlasting life. this ,this is not what ZION his read scriptures
Terra.Isiah66:7. Before SHE travailed SHE brought forth; before her pain came SHE was delivered of a man child.
v.8. —-as soon as Zion travailed,she brought fort her children.
Micah. 4:10. Be in pain,and labour to bring forth,O daughter of Zion,like a woman in travail: ——
Who is this woman? this SHE?
wakeup.
wakeup1KI 8:1 Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel and all the heads of the tribes, the leaders of the fathers’ households of the sons of Israel, to King Solomon in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD from the city of David, which is Zion.
2KI 19:31 ‘For out of Jerusalem will go forth a remnant, and out of Mount Zion survivors. The zeal of the LORD will perform this.
PS 2:6 “But as for Me, I have installed My King
Upon Zion, My holy mountain.”Oh, that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When the LORD restores His captive people,
Jacob will rejoice, Israel will be glad.PS 20:2 May He send you help from the sanctuary
And support you from Zion!PS 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty,
God has shone forthREV 14:1 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.
Da 2:34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them.
The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.
Da 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
Terra.Zion is spiritual,the mountain in jerusalem is called mount zion(physical). Same with Jerusalem:the physical jerusalem and there is the Holy jerusalem:spiritual.rev21:2.
quote: as for me I have installed my king upon Zion my Holy mountains. WHO IS THIS KING? AND WHATT IS THE HOLY MOUNTAIN? IS JERUSALEM HOLY TODAY,AND WHEN CHRIST COMES. WHO IS KING IN JERUSALEM TODAY?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,10:36) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2012,00:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,06:30) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,11:16) wakeup Quote Zion is Gods philisophy(teachings).Gods way of living our lives that will lead to everlasting life. this ,this is not what ZION his read scriptures
Terra.Isiah66:7. Before SHE travailed SHE brought forth; before her pain came SHE was delivered of a man child.
v.8. —-as soon as Zion travailed,she brought fort her children.
Micah. 4:10. Be in pain,and labour to bring forth,O daughter of Zion,like a woman in travail: ——
Who is this woman? this SHE?
wakeup.
wakeup1KI 8:1 Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel and all the heads of the tribes, the leaders of the fathers’ households of the sons of Israel, to King Solomon in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD from the city of David, which is Zion.
2KI 19:31 ‘For out of Jerusalem will go forth a remnant, and out of Mount Zion survivors. The zeal of the LORD will perform this.
PS 2:6 “But as for Me, I have installed My King
Upon Zion, My holy mountain.”Oh, that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When the LORD restores His captive people,
Jacob will rejoice, Israel will be glad.PS 20:2 May He send you help from the sanctuary
And support you from Zion!PS 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty,
God has shone forthREV 14:1 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.
Da 2:34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them.
The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.
Da 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
Terra.Zion is spiritual,the mountain in jerusalem is called mount zion(physical). Same with Jerusalem:the physical jerusalem and there is the Holy jerusalem:spiritual.rev21:2.
quote: as for me I have installed my king upon Zion my Holy mountains. WHO IS THIS KING? AND WHATT IS THE HOLY MOUNTAIN? IS JERUSALEM HOLY TODAY,AND WHEN CHRIST COMES. WHO IS KING IN JERUSALEM TODAY?
wakeup.
wupif you do not understand the scriptures I have given you ,then there is not much to talk about Zion the city of God ,
so you teach me ;with your KJV of so called truth in it
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,10:53) Terra. You say I dont understand:
Well correct me.wakeup.
wupI show you scriptures ,if you do not believe them ,why would you believe me
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2012,04:02) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,10:53) Terra. You say I dont understand:
Well correct me.wakeup.
wupI show you scriptures ,if you do not believe them ,why would you believe me
Thanks for your explanation.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,10:36) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2012,00:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,06:30) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,11:16) wakeup Quote Zion is Gods philisophy(teachings).Gods way of living our lives that will lead to everlasting life. this ,this is not what ZION his read scriptures
Terra.Isiah66:7. Before SHE travailed SHE brought forth; before her pain came SHE was delivered of a man child.
v.8. —-as soon as Zion travailed,she brought fort her children.
Micah. 4:10. Be in pain,and labour to bring forth,O daughter of Zion,like a woman in travail: ——
Who is this woman? this SHE?
wakeup.
wakeup1KI 8:1 Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel and all the heads of the tribes, the leaders of the fathers’ households of the sons of Israel, to King Solomon in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD from the city of David, which is Zion.
2KI 19:31 ‘For out of Jerusalem will go forth a remnant, and out of Mount Zion survivors. The zeal of the LORD will perform this.
PS 2:6 “But as for Me, I have installed My King
Upon Zion, My holy mountain.”Oh, that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When the LORD restores His captive people,
Jacob will rejoice, Israel will be glad.PS 20:2 May He send you help from the sanctuary
And support you from Zion!PS 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty,
God has shone forthREV 14:1 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.
Da 2:34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them.
The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.
Da 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
Terra.Zion is spiritual,the mountain in jerusalem is called mount zion(physical). Same with Jerusalem:the physical jerusalem and there is the Holy jerusalem:spiritual.rev21:2.
quote: as for me I have installed my king upon Zion my Holy mountains. WHO IS THIS KING? AND WHATT IS THE HOLY MOUNTAIN? IS JERUSALEM HOLY TODAY,AND WHEN CHRIST COMES. WHO IS KING IN JERUSALEM TODAY?
wakeup.
wakeupread the scriptures again ,understand that Dan;2;44;is the time that God places his king on the throne and start building his kingdom that will never be destroyed,
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