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Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,16:27) Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).” Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from
the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.In order to understand this dragon, we must first look at the beast of Rev.13:1-3…
Rev.13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (of people: Rev.17:15),
having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the
mouth of a lion (1Pt.5:8): and the dragon (Revelation 12:3) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.Head 1: Egypt -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown
Head of gold: Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown …Lion (Daniel 7:4)
Arms of silver: Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown …Bear (Daniel 7:5)
Thighs of brass: Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns …Leopard (Daniel 7:6)
Feet of iron & clay: Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown …ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)
Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown
Then it suffered a deadly wound:
Muhammad did not have a world empire,
but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of
the beast with the deadly wound. (Rev.13:3)Muhammadin islam is the eithth and of the seventh: and this whole world system is going to go into perdition.
All of those countries are islamic now. You need to read Psalm Chapter 83 to better understand this. (Rev.17:11)First this leopard beast looses “-THREE CROWNS” and the camouflage spots exposing it as the great red dragon of Rev.12:3:
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.The quran prophecy
The beast: Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship
the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3(the leopard beast)Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Next this great red dragon looses “-THE REST OF THE CROWNS” and the spirit of antichrist's plan of world conquest is fully exposed:
Revelation 17:3 “I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”islam is the kingdom of the antichrist! (Link)
Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
EDj.You have 7 heads and 10 horns; thats fine,but you have misunderstood the whole prophesy Im afraid.
You have 6 heads and one horn on each head(wrong).
one head with 4horns (wrong).Read Daniel 7:7. with a true heart,not with a heart that is already made up what it should read,rather than what it truly reads.
Dan 7:7. I saw in the night vision and behold a fourth beast,dreadful and terrible,and STRONG EXEEDINGLY; and it had great iron teeth,it devoured and break in pieces,and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beast that was before it; AND IT HAD –10–HORNS.(10 horns on the one beast with only one head)YES/NO?
THIS DREADFUL BEAST IS —ONE BEAST–ONE HEAD (NO 7 heads O.K.).YES/NO?
AND IT HAD 10 HORNS on the ONE BEAST AND ONE HEAD,all 10 HORNS together(not spread out through the centuries). YES/NO?
Why have I gone to Dan.7:7? becausse this is the last beast ever to be destroyed,to be slain and cast in the fire (7:11).
YES/NO?TELL ME IF I AM WRONG.all are watching:
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,09:53) EDj. You have 7 heads and 10 horns; thats fine,but you have misunderstood the whole prophesy Im afraid.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I only have one head.
Don't be afraid, I haven't.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,09:53) EDj. You have 6 heads and one horn on each head(wrong).
one head with 4horns (wrong).wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Both right.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,09:53) EDj. Dan 7:7. I saw in the night vision and behold a fourth beast,dreadful and terrible,and STRONG EXEEDINGLY; and it had great iron teeth,it devoured and break in pieces,and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beast that was before it; AND IT HAD –10–HORNS.(10 horns on the one beast with only one head)YES/NO?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Yep
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,09:53) EDj. (1)THIS DREADFUL BEAST IS —ONE BEAST–ONE HEAD (NO 7 heads O.K.).YES/NO?
(2)AND IT HAD 10 HORNS on the ONE BEAST AND ONE HEAD,all 10 HORNS together(not spread out through the centuries). YES/NO?
(3)Why have I gone to Dan.7:7? becausse this is the last beast ever to be destroyed,to be slain and cast in the fire (7:11).
YES/NO?TELL ME IF I AM WRONG.all are watching:
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) Don't know what you mean?
2) Yep
3) No other empire since it had been destroyed had the power of the Roman empire.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgWAKEUP
the red beast with seven heads are the world powers but not in full power because it is not coming out of the earth or sea ,so it is a succession of the beast of Revelation 13,and we know who control the powers SATAN so it is Satan that his the whore that sits on it ,
it does not matter that you believe it or not ,but that is what it is ,
the red beast were the whore sits on is the beast that WAS,HIS AND COMES BACK AND WILL BE DESTROYED but before the beast is destroyed it will take down the whore,
is not this what the scriptures are saying
THE FACT THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH IT DOES NOT MAKE IT WRONG ;SHOW YOUR SCRIPTURES WERE I AM WRONG ,
Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,11:03) Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,09:53) EDj. (1)THIS DREADFUL BEAST IS —ONE BEAST–ONE HEAD (NO 7 heads O.K.).YES/NO?
(2)AND IT HAD 10 HORNS on the ONE BEAST AND ONE HEAD,all 10 HORNS together(not spread out through the centuries). YES/NO?
(3)Why have I gone to Dan.7:7? becausse this is the last beast ever to be destroyed,to be slain and cast in the fire (7:11).
YES/NO?TELL ME IF I AM WRONG.all are watching:
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) Don't know what you mean?
2) Yep
3) No other empire since it had been destroyed had the power of the Roman empire.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDj.1.The dreadful beast is just one beast.yes/no?
2. This dreadful beast has only one head.yes/no?
3. This dreadful beast has 10 horns on the one head.yes/no?
not scattered on many heads as you have explained.
4. This dreadfull beast is the same beast that Daniel saw was cast in the fire.yes/no?5. Verse 9. I beheld untill the thrones were cast down,AND THE ANCIENT OF DAYS DID SIT(in his throne;Jesus ruling).yes/no?
6. So this dreadful beast must be the last kingdom on earth.yes/no?7. So this dreadful beast must be the same beast with 10 kings(horns) that was cast into the lake of fire in rev.19:20yes/no?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,12:46) EDj. 1.The dreadful beast is just one beast.yes/no?
2. This dreadful beast has only one head.yes/no?
3. This dreadful beast has 10 horns on the one head.yes/no?
not scattered on many heads as you have explained.
4. This dreadfull beast is the same beast that Daniel saw was cast in the fire.yes/no?5. Verse 9. I beheld untill the thrones were cast down,AND THE ANCIENT OF DAYS DID SIT(in his throne;Jesus ruling).yes/no?
6. So this dreadful beast must be the last kingdom on earth.yes/no?7. So this dreadful beast must be the same beast with 10 kings(horns) that was cast into the lake of fire in rev.19:20yes/no?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, (regarding the beast of Daniel 7:7)1) Yep
2) Doesn't say
3) -/- (see #2)
4) Daniel 8:9 has a little horn associated with the he goat (Grecian Empire).
5) OK
6) Not necessarily. (this is an assumption on your part)
7) NoGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,14:33) Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,12:46) EDj. 1.The dreadful beast is just one beast.yes/no?
2. This dreadful beast has only one head.yes/no?
3. This dreadful beast has 10 horns on the one head.yes/no?
not scattered on many heads as you have explained.
4. This dreadfull beast is the same beast that Daniel saw was cast in the fire.yes/no?5. Verse 9. I beheld untill the thrones were cast down,AND THE ANCIENT OF DAYS DID SIT(in his throne;Jesus ruling).yes/no?
6. So this dreadful beast must be the last kingdom on earth.yes/no?7. So this dreadful beast must be the same beast with 10 kings(horns) that was cast into the lake of fire in rev.19:20yes/no?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup, (regarding the beast of Daniel 7:7)1) Yep
2) Doesn't say
3) -/- (see #2)
4) Daniel 8:9 has a little horn associated with the he goat (Grecian Empire).
5) OK
6) Not necessarily. (this is an assumption on your part)
7) NoGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDj.2. The deadful beast has one head: you say: doesnt say?
Well how many heads has the lion have?(Dan.did not say
either).How many heads does the bear have? (Dan. did not say
either).Well how many heads does this dreadful beast have? (Dan.did say).if you read verse 20.–the 10 horns were on his –head–
3. This dreadful beast had the horns on the one head: you
say: -/- see2.Read verse 20. THE 10 HORNS THAT WERE ON –HIS HEAD-
(HOW MANY)? head=1 head. heads=more than one.4. We are discussing Dan.7.O.K.
Did Daniel see this dreadful beast cast in the fire.
verse11. I did see till the beast was slain, and his body
destroyed and given to the burning flame.yes/no?6. This is my assumption,you say:
Which beast in history has ever been cast in the lake of
fire? Did not Daniel say in VERSE9. DAN.BEHELD TILL THE
THRONES WERE CAST DOWN.
AND THE ANCIENT OF DAYS DID SIT.(hello).WHO SIT?
Verse11.his body cast in the fire.By whom?7. Rev.19:20 the beast and the false prophet is cast into
lake of fire.(by whom). THEN HE WILL SIT IN HIS
THRONE;WHO SIT? all the thrones must be cast down
first before Jesus will sit in his throne.O.K.verse9.SO WHAT YOU SAY?
Prophesies must not be taken as a past time entertainment. The scriptures are Holy.and all mens works and speach will be taken to account.
WAKEUP.
Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,19:34) WAKEUP the red beast with seven heads are the world powers but not in full power because it is not coming out of the earth or sea ,so it is a succession of the beast of Revelation 13,and we know who control the powers SATAN so it is Satan that his the whore that sits on it ,
it does not matter that you believe it or not ,but that is what it is ,
the red beast were the whore sits on is the beast that WAS,HIS AND COMES BACK AND WILL BE DESTROYED but before the beast is destroyed it will take down the whore,
is not this what the scriptures are saying
THE FACT THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH IT DOES NOT MAKE IT WRONG ;SHOW YOUR SCRIPTURES WERE I AM WRONG ,
I also forgot to mention that Geneses 3:15 will come to its conclusion,and we have to consider that the fourth beast in Daniel 7 could be in existence within the time of the seventh head of the beast in Revelation 13 like being the powers of despots,powers that kills their own people ,but are not a world power just tread to it ,
was this not what happen in ww2
Quote (terraricca @ July 29 2012,01:31) Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,19:34) WAKEUP the red beast with seven heads are the world powers but not in full power because it is not coming out of the earth or sea ,so it is a succession of the beast of Revelation 13,and we know who control the powers SATAN so it is Satan that his the whore that sits on it ,
it does not matter that you believe it or not ,but that is what it is ,
the red beast were the whore sits on is the beast that WAS,HIS AND COMES BACK AND WILL BE DESTROYED but before the beast is destroyed it will take down the whore,
is not this what the scriptures are saying
THE FACT THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH IT DOES NOT MAKE IT WRONG ;SHOW YOUR SCRIPTURES WERE I AM WRONG ,
I also forgot to mention that Geneses 3:15 will come to its conclusion,and we have to consider that the fourth beast in Daniel 7 could be in existence within the time of the seventh head of the beast in Revelation 13 like being the powers of despots,powers that kills their own people ,but are not a world power just tread to it ,
was this not what happen in ww2
O.K.TERRA.Lets discus the prophesie,its very important to know prophesies correctly.
First we must agree:That.
The dragon is always satan.
Beasts are always empires.
Mountains are also empires.
Waters,are people and populations.(can also mean spiritual drinks,or food).it depends on the subject God is talking about.
Horns are kings.
Woman or women are believes(religion).
Do you agree so far?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 29 2012,09:50) Quote (terraricca @ July 29 2012,01:31) Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,19:34) WAKEUP the red beast with seven heads are the world powers but not in full power because it is not coming out of the earth or sea ,so it is a succession of the beast of Revelation 13,and we know who control the powers SATAN so it is Satan that his the whore that sits on it ,
it does not matter that you believe it or not ,but that is what it is ,
the red beast were the whore sits on is the beast that WAS,HIS AND COMES BACK AND WILL BE DESTROYED but before the beast is destroyed it will take down the whore,
is not this what the scriptures are saying
THE FACT THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH IT DOES NOT MAKE IT WRONG ;SHOW YOUR SCRIPTURES WERE I AM WRONG ,
I also forgot to mention that Geneses 3:15 will come to its conclusion,and we have to consider that the fourth beast in Daniel 7 could be in existence within the time of the seventh head of the beast in Revelation 13 like being the powers of despots,powers that kills their own people ,but are not a world power just tread to it ,
was this not what happen in ww2
O.K.TERRA.Lets discus the prophesie,its very important to know prophesies correctly.
First we must agree:That.
The dragon is always satan.
Beasts are always empires.
Mountains are also empires.
Waters,are people and populations.(can also mean spiritual drinks,or food).it depends on the subject God is talking about.
Horns are kings.
Woman or women are believes(religion).
Do you agree so far?wakeup.
ok agreed ,only the women could mean other things like nation,and other things,I thinkand water can mean knowledge as well ,I think
crowns means rulling kings ,I think
and only beast that comes out of the SEA are world powers ,I think,
Quote (terraricca @ July 29 2012,02:58) Quote (Wakeup @ July 29 2012,09:50) Quote (terraricca @ July 29 2012,01:31) Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,19:34) WAKEUP the red beast with seven heads are the world powers but not in full power because it is not coming out of the earth or sea ,so it is a succession of the beast of Revelation 13,and we know who control the powers SATAN so it is Satan that his the whore that sits on it ,
it does not matter that you believe it or not ,but that is what it is ,
the red beast were the whore sits on is the beast that WAS,HIS AND COMES BACK AND WILL BE DESTROYED but before the beast is destroyed it will take down the whore,
is not this what the scriptures are saying
THE FACT THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH IT DOES NOT MAKE IT WRONG ;SHOW YOUR SCRIPTURES WERE I AM WRONG ,
I also forgot to mention that Geneses 3:15 will come to its conclusion,and we have to consider that the fourth beast in Daniel 7 could be in existence within the time of the seventh head of the beast in Revelation 13 like being the powers of despots,powers that kills their own people ,but are not a world power just tread to it ,
was this not what happen in ww2
O.K.TERRA.Lets discus the prophesie,its very important to know prophesies correctly.
First we must agree:That.
The dragon is always satan.
Beasts are always empires.
Mountains are also empires.
Waters,are people and populations.(can also mean spiritual drinks,or food).it depends on the subject God is talking about.
Horns are kings.
Woman or women are believes(religion).
Do you agree so far?wakeup.
ok agreed ,only the women could mean other things like nation,I think
Terra.We start with rev.13.
Verse 1.–daniel was on the sand of the sea(the beach) when he saw a beast coming out of the sea,with 7 HEADS,AND 10 HORNS.2. The beast looks like a leopard,and his feet of a bear and his mouth as a lion. and satan is giving this beast his power,and GREAT AUTHORITY.( mixed beast) the leopard is greece,the body is the greek system,look at the olimpics,its greek,democracy; is greek; many words; science; all greek.
the mouth and the feet is a long explanation;can go later.3.One of his head is wounded to death,but his wound was healed; AND THE WORLD WONDER AFTER THIS WOUNDED HEAD,beast.
4. And they are saying; who can make war with this beast?
(this means that this wounded beast became mighty powerful.Now what about the other heads?(6 heads).
Answer: must go to rev17:9. the 7 heads are 7 mountains,and 7 kings: 5 are gone.one is in johns day, and that is Rome.The old Rome is now also gone; So we just have to worry about the 7th beast; because 6 beasts are gone.(history).
Now who is this 7th beast that is so strong?
We know for sure that the 8th will come out of the 7th, and it is coming(future). So what we have today must be the 7th.What about the wound? this seventh was wounded in the 2nd ww.and became strong,and the world like to follow this beast.
The world loves this beast;it like to copy the traditions of the western nations.I am sure you will agree.(hollywood is responsible).Out of this 7th beast will come a multi king beast with 10 horns,this one is even stronger and more evil.
But this mighty beast will only last a very short time(3 half yrs)in power.And will be cast in the fire at the coming;the false proph.also.Any questions so far; go for it.
wakeup.
But he only become very powerfull when the false prophet will lead.
Quote Now who is this 7th beast that is so strong?
We know for sure that the 8th will come out of the 7th, and it is coming(future). So what we have today must be the 7th.What about the wound? this seventh was wounded in the 2nd ww.
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.is it not the scarlet beast that his the 8 king
wakeup
Quote So what we have today must be the 7th.What about the wound? this seventh was wounded in the 2nd ww. is it not the 6 th head that get wounded
Quote (Wakeup @ July 29 2012,02:50) Quote (terraricca @ July 29 2012,01:31) Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,19:34) WAKEUP the red beast with seven heads are the world powers but not in full power because it is not coming out of the earth or sea ,so it is a succession of the beast of Revelation 13,and we know who control the powers SATAN so it is Satan that his the whore that sits on it ,
it does not matter that you believe it or not ,but that is what it is ,
the red beast were the whore sits on is the beast that WAS,HIS AND COMES BACK AND WILL BE DESTROYED but before the beast is destroyed it will take down the whore,
is not this what the scriptures are saying
THE FACT THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH IT DOES NOT MAKE IT WRONG ;SHOW YOUR SCRIPTURES WERE I AM WRONG ,
I also forgot to mention that Geneses 3:15 will come to its conclusion,and we have to consider that the fourth beast in Daniel 7 could be in existence within the time of the seventh head of the beast in Revelation 13 like being the powers of despots,powers that kills their own people ,but are not a world power just tread to it ,
was this not what happen in ww2
O.K.TERRA.Lets discus the prophesie,its very important to know prophesies correctly.
First we must agree:That.
The dragon is always satan.
Beasts are always empires.
Mountains are also empires.
Waters,are people and populations.(can also mean spiritual drinks,or food).it depends on the subject God is talking about.
Horns are kings.
Woman or women are believes(religion).
Do you agree so far?wakeup.
Terra.All the beasts with the 10 horns are the same beast.
Dan.7:7 = the wounded head beast rev.13 = the red beast in rev17.= and rev19:20. This will be the last beast.We dont worry about the 6heads for they are gone past(history).we look for the 7th and the8th.
The 8th will have 10 kings,not the 7th.
Rev.17:1. notice that it is one of the angels with the trumpet that is explaining,(one of the 7 angels).(this means the last days).
He said: the beast(10horned) was:BEFORE JOHNS DAY.
bUT -IS NOT- IN JOHNS DAY: -YET- IS NOT DEAD,BUT ASLEEP.
AND HE WILL COME UP AGAIN;OUT OF THE B.PIT.AND WILL BE DESTROYED: THIS LAST BEAST WILL BE DESTROYED BY CHRIST.AT THE COMING.(the 10 horned beast).If this is the 8thbeast then we must now be in the 7th beast,
the wounded head.and all world like to follow this beast,they like to copy this beast They like the movies,the traditions;(like christmas for example). the fashions;they love this beast.Now the woman who is she?
This woman is always riding on all the 7 beasts,because she represents people believes,and worship,and she is very rich;
she can give people all they want, all material luxuries.and all kinds of worship and desires of the heart.WHO WAS THIS 8TH BEAST?
This 8th beast WAS B-A-B-E-L.
Nimrod started a one nation kingdom with one leader one language one system one religion.all controled by NIMROD.
(a one world government).And today this system is coming again soon.
one sytem.one leader,one believe(worship the false prophet),one language(english).The mark will force the people to obey.
No mark; no business,no import or export,no buy or sell.wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ July 29 2012,06:13) Quote Now who is this 7th beast that is so strong?
We know for sure that the 8th will come out of the 7th, and it is coming(future). So what we have today must be the 7th.What about the wound? this seventh was wounded in the 2nd ww.
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.is it not the scarlet beast that his the 8 king
Terra.Thescarlet beast in rev.17. has 7heads(representing satan and his 7 empires,but today the 6heads are history. Now only the 7th heaad is here,and the 8th will come,but with 10 kings andthe false prophet(little horn with eyes and big mouth) will come after the 10 kings. and as he comes ,he will uproot 3 kings,so he must be powerful.
The woman has always from the beginning been sitting on the 7 empires; And this woman represents peoples believes and religions and greed,and luxuries and the nice things she could offer the populations,but all material things,and false religion.
If one is hungry for money;that is his god; he worships money.
If one put his faith in technology(the work of mans hands), that is his god.And the wilderness represent the world(babylon)dog eat dog,the big eat the small; like in the jungle.
wakeup.
wakeup
thanks for your reply,but please could you reply to my questions ,what I have ask in separate quotes to make it easy for you,and me and all to see,
and answer me with no add ins ,only what scriptures says and connecting scriptures ,so no asumptions,no opinions,no ideas,no personal views.thank you ;
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