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The red dragon color could also mean honor ,because it is an beast that :was:his not:and comes back
So it is a beast that comes out of the abbys ,not out of the earth or out of the sea,Now the fact that you guys agree it does not make it scriptural,
Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,17:20) Edj The red dragon color could also mean honor ,because it is an beast that :was:his not:and comes back
So it is a beast that comes out of the abbys ,not out of the earth or out of the sea,Now the fact that you guys agree it does not make it scriptural,
Terra.I disagree with your explanation of the red dragon.
This is the reason why:We know that the dragon is satan the devil.
And you say that he WAS; IS NOT; AND SHALL COME OUT OF THE BOTTOMLES PIT.Well satan has always been there since day one,so how can he be IS NOT,in the days of John.
Can you explain please.Or will you again say–I have already explained?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 25 2012,14:15) Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,17:20) Edj The red dragon color could also mean honor ,because it is an beast that :was:his not:and comes back
So it is a beast that comes out of the abbys ,not out of the earth or out of the sea,Now the fact that you guys agree it does not make it scriptural,
Terra.I disagree with your explanation of the red dragon.
This is the reason why:We know that the dragon is satan the devil.
And you say that he WAS; IS NOT; AND SHALL COME OUT OF THE BOTTOMLES PIT.Well satan has always been there since day one,so how can he be IS NOT,in the days of John.
Can you explain please.Or will you again say–I have already explained?
wakeup.
wakeupwill come.
Rev 17:9 “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.
Rev 17:10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while.
Rev 17:11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.
Rev 17:12 “The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast.
Rev 17:13 They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast.
Rev 17:14 They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”
Rev 17:15 Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.
Rev 17:16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
Rev 17:17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God’s words are fulfilled.
Rev 17:18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”to go fast the beast are the representation of Satan world powers ,and it says that that beast WAS,HIS ,AND come back then WILL GO TO ITS DESTRUCTION,BUT THE WHORE THAT SITS ON IT HIS SATAN ,BUT THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHEN IS THIS TAKEN PLACE ,RIGHT
when do you think it takes place Quote (terraricca @ July 27 2012,13:09) Quote (Wakeup @ July 25 2012,14:15) Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,17:20) Edj The red dragon color could also mean honor ,because it is an beast that :was:his not:and comes back
So it is a beast that comes out of the abbys ,not out of the earth or out of the sea,Now the fact that you guys agree it does not make it scriptural,
Terra.I disagree with your explanation of the red dragon.
This is the reason why:We know that the dragon is satan the devil.
And you say that he WAS; IS NOT; AND SHALL COME OUT OF THE BOTTOMLES PIT.Well satan has always been there since day one,so how can he be IS NOT,in the days of John.
Can you explain please.Or will you again say–I have already explained?
wakeup.
wakeupwill come.
Rev 17:9 “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.
Rev 17:10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while.
Rev 17:11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.
Rev 17:12 “The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast.
Rev 17:13 They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast.
Rev 17:14 They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”
Rev 17:15 Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.
Rev 17:16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
Rev 17:17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God’s words are fulfilled.
Rev 17:18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”to go fast the beast are the representation of Satan world powers ,and it says that that beast WAS,HIS ,AND WILL GO TO ITS DESTRUCTION,BUT THE WHORE THAT SITS ON IT HIS SATAN ,BUT THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHEN IS THIS TAKEN PLACE ,RIGHT
when do you think it takes place
Lets be clear here.Satan is the red dragon.
The beast is the kingdom.
And the whore is that great city.
And the waters are people.question: Who is the beast that was,is not and yet is?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 27 2012,21:29) Quote (terraricca @ July 27 2012,13:09) Quote (Wakeup @ July 25 2012,14:15) Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2012,17:20) Edj The red dragon color could also mean honor ,because it is an beast that :was:his not:and comes back
So it is a beast that comes out of the abbys ,not out of the earth or out of the sea,Now the fact that you guys agree it does not make it scriptural,
Terra.I disagree with your explanation of the red dragon.
This is the reason why:We know that the dragon is satan the devil.
And you say that he WAS; IS NOT; AND SHALL COME OUT OF THE BOTTOMLES PIT.Well satan has always been there since day one,so how can he be IS NOT,in the days of John.
Can you explain please.Or will you again say–I have already explained?
wakeup.
wakeupwill come.
Rev 17:9 “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.
Rev 17:10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while.
Rev 17:11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.
Rev 17:12 “The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast.
Rev 17:13 They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast.
Rev 17:14 They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”
Rev 17:15 Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.
Rev 17:16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
Rev 17:17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God’s words are fulfilled.
Rev 17:18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”to go fast the beast are the representation of Satan world powers ,and it says that that beast WAS,HIS ,AND WILL GO TO ITS DESTRUCTION,BUT THE WHORE THAT SITS ON IT HIS SATAN ,BUT THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHEN IS THIS TAKEN PLACE ,RIGHT
when do you think it takes place
Lets be clear here.Satan is the red dragon.
The beast is the kingdom.
And the whore is that great city.
And the waters are people.question: Who is the beast that was,is not and yet is?
wakeup.
wakeupthe red beast with seven heads are the world powers but not in full power because it is not coming out of the earth or sea ,so it is a succession of the beast of Revelation 13,and we know who control the powers SATAN so it is Satan that his the whore that sits on it ,
it does not matter that you believe it or not ,but that is what it is ,
the red beast were the whore sits on is the beast that WAS,HIS AND COMES BACK AND WILL BE DESTROYED but before the beast is destroyed it will take down the whore,
is not this what the scriptures are saying
Quote (Wakeup @ July 27 2012,14:29) question: Who is the beast that was,is not and yet is? wakeup.
Answer: see first post on this thread.Ed J
Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,21:51) Quote (Wakeup @ July 27 2012,14:29) question: Who is the beast that was,is not and yet is? wakeup.
Answer: see first post on this thread.Ed J
EDJDO YOU KNOW ??
Quote (terraricca @ July 27 2012,16:06) Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,21:51) Quote (Wakeup @ July 27 2012,14:29) question: Who is the beast that was,is not and yet is? wakeup.
Answer: see first post on this thread.Ed J
EDJDO YOU KNOW ??
Yes, see first post on this thread.Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,23:18) Quote (terraricca @ July 27 2012,16:06) Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,21:51) Quote (Wakeup @ July 27 2012,14:29) question: Who is the beast that was,is not and yet is? wakeup.
Answer: see first post on this thread.Ed J
EDJDO YOU KNOW ??
Yes, see first post on this thread.
edjnob ,it is not specified ;so could you spell it out here
thank youplease I do not need a page just a name and a scripture
Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).”
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from
the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.In order to understand this dragon, we must first look at the beast of Rev.13:1-3…
Rev.13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (of people: Rev.17:15),
having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the
mouth of a lion (1Pt.5:8): and the dragon (Revelation 12:3) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.Head 1: Egypt -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown
Head of gold: Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown …Lion (Daniel 7:4)
Arms of silver: Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown …Bear (Daniel 7:5)
Thighs of brass: Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns …Leopard (Daniel 7:6)
Feet of iron & clay: Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown …ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)
Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown
Then it suffered a deadly wound:
Muhammad did not have a world empire,
but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of
the beast with the deadly wound. (Rev.13:3)Muhammadin islam is the eithth and of the seventh: and this whole world system is going to go into perdition.
All of those countries are islamic now. You need to read Psalm Chapter 83 to better understand this. (Rev.17:11)First this leopard beast looses “-THREE CROWNS” and the camouflage spots exposing it as the great red dragon of Rev.12:3:
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.The quran prophecy
The beast: Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship
the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3(the leopard beast)Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Next this great red dragon looses “-THE REST OF THE CROWNS” and the spirit of antichrist's plan of world conquest is fully exposed:
Revelation 17:3 “I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”islam is the kingdom of the antichrist! (Link)
Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Quote (terraricca @ July 27 2012,23:26) Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,23:18) Quote (terraricca @ July 27 2012,16:06) Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,21:51) Quote (Wakeup @ July 27 2012,14:29) question: Who is the beast that was,is not and yet is? wakeup.
Answer: see first post on this thread.Ed J
EDJDO YOU KNOW ??
Yes, see first post on this thread.
edjnob ,it is not specified ;so could you spell it out here
thank youplease I do not need a page just a name and a scripture
edjwhat went wrong ;you can not say it in a few simple words
of cause not ;you have to hind your false believe .mix it so no one can find his eggs in it
Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,23:33) Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).”
edjI am so dumb, i can not understand nothing of what you quoting , it is definitively not the answer I am looking for ,
but per ups you do not know the answer is this right
Quote (terraricca @ July 27 2012,16:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,23:33) Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).”
edjI am so dumb, i can not understand nothing of what you quoting , it is definitively not the answer I am looking for ,
but per ups you do not know the answer is this right
Hi Pierre,I don't know what you “believe” the answer to be, but that is indeed the correct answer.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,23:59) Quote (terraricca @ July 27 2012,16:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2012,23:33) Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).”
edjI am so dumb, i can not understand nothing of what you quoting , it is definitively not the answer I am looking for ,
but per ups you do not know the answer is this right
Hi Pierre,I don't know what you “believe” the answer to be, but that is indeed the correct answer.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJQuote Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).” THIS SCRIPTURES ARE THE BASE OF YOUR UNDERSTANDING RIGHT
1)Rev 17:8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.
WAS;
2)And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.
Rev 13:2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.
Rev 13:3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast.IS NOT;
3)Rev 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
AND YET IS;
4)Rev 17:3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a desert. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns.
Quote Hi Pierre, I don't know what you “believe” the answer to be, but that is indeed the correct answer.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE
YOU HAVE MIXED SCRIPTURES BACK AND FORTH ,IN THE PAST AND THE FUTURE SO TO SPEAK ,AND IT DOES NOT REALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION RIGHT SO YOUR TRUTH IS AN ASSUMPTION NOT REAL TRUTH IN SCRIPTURES BECAUSE IT IS NOW OPEN A THAUSAND OTHER QUESTIONS ,JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE MIXED ALL BEAST TO BE SOME THING THAT THEY ARE NOT .Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,01:50) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,08:40) Yep, that's it.
AND DO STILL THINK IT IS THE RIGHT ANSWER
Yepper
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