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Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,07:29) Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).” Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from
the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.In order to understand this dragon, we must first look at the beast of Rev.13:1-3…
Rev.13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (of people: Rev.17:15),
having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the
mouth of a lion (1Pt.5:8): and the dragon(Revelation 12:3) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.Head 1: Egypt -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns
Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown
Then it suffered a deadly wound:
Muhammad did not have a world empire,
but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of
the beast with the deadly wound. (Rev.13:3)Muhammadin islam is the eithth and of the seventh: and this whole world system is going to go into perdition.
All of those countries are islamic now. You need to read Psalm Chapter 83 to better understand this. (Rev.17:11)First loosing “THREE CROWNS” and the leopard spots:
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.The quran prophecy
The beast: Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship
the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3(the leopard beast)Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Next loosing “THE REST OF THE CROWNS” and being exposed:
Revelation 17:3 “I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”islam is the kingdom of the antichrist! (Link)
Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
Reason for edit: I added a piece of information critical for understanding.
Ed, you and wakeup must have gone to the same class.Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 30 2012,12:20) Hi Georg, Wakeup is pushing fulfilled Prophecy off into the future.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
EDJ.You have been ducking the bullets,and now you are hiding under a rock. But the bullets wont stop coming.
Ed; you said the 7mountains has 10 horns in total:(10kings).
The scripture says; there are 7mountains and 7 kings,5 are gone; one is (then roman) ; today that one has gone also.
We are in the 7th: cause the 8th is next.(is coming).What say you brother? Dont go to another topic.
Shoot me down if you can.wakeup.
Well, at least you're partly right Wakeup.
I have a question for Ed, and for you, Wakeup.
There are three chapters in Revelation, 12; 13; and 17; they all show a beast with seven heads; for now lets concentrate on the heads only.
My question is; do the seven heads have the same meaning in all three chapters? YES, or NO?
If YES explain; or if NO explain.
Georg
Quote (Pastry @ Mar. 31 2012,10:36) Well, at least you're partly right Wakeup. I have a question for Ed, and for you, Wakeup.
There are three chapters in Revelation, 12; 13; and 17; they all show a beast with seven heads; for now lets concentrate on the heads only.
My question is; do the seven heads have the same meaning in all three chapters? YES, or NO?
If YES explain; or if NO explain.
Georg
Hi Georg, yes.The seven heads represent the seven world empires.
Head 1: Egypt
Head 2: Assyrian
Head 3: Babylon
Head 4: Medo-Persians
Head 5: Greeks
Head 6: Roman
Head 7: OttomanGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Hi Georg, (the meanings don't change from beast to beast)
Horns represents power as in kingdoms or mountains.
And the crowns represents ruler-ship as in kings.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Pastry @ Mar. 31 2012,10:36) Well, at least you're partly right Wakeup. I have a question for Ed, and for you, Wakeup.
There are three chapters in Revelation, 12; 13; and 17; they all show a beast with seven heads; for now lets concentrate on the heads only.
My question is; do the seven heads have the same meaning in all three chapters? YES, or NO?
If YES explain; or if NO explain.
Georg
Pastry.The red dragon has 7 heads only.
1. egypt. 2. assyria. 3.babylon. 4. medo persia. 5. greecia. 6. rome.(the past roman empire). 7. end time roman empire with the 10horns on the one head. This is coming soon. then the little horn will come up soon after.The 7 empires have 7 kings: the 8th empire is of the 7th and will have 10 kings,and soon after; the little horn will come up.
wakeup.
Quote (Pastry @ Mar. 31 2012,17:36) Well, at least you're partly right Wakeup. I have a question for Ed, and for you, Wakeup.
There are three chapters in Revelation, 12; 13; and 17; they all show a beast with seven heads; for now lets concentrate on the heads only.
My question is; do the seven heads have the same meaning in all three chapters? YES, or NO?
If YES explain; or if NO explain.
Georg
yesQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2012,18:09) Quote (Pastry @ Mar. 31 2012,10:36) Well, at least you're partly right Wakeup. I have a question for Ed, and for you, Wakeup.
There are three chapters in Revelation, 12; 13; and 17; they all show a beast with seven heads; for now lets concentrate on the heads only.
My question is; do the seven heads have the same meaning in all three chapters? YES, or NO?
If YES explain; or if NO explain.
Georg
Hi Georg, yes.The seven heads represent the seven world empires.
Head 1: Egypt
Head 2: Assyrian
Head 3: Babylon
Head 4: Medo-Persians
Head 5: Greeks
Head 6: Roman
Head 7: OttomanGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
ottoman,was never a world empireHi Pierre,
Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word “World”.
None of them ever controlled:1. North America
2. South America
3. New Zealand
4. AsiaIn more term empires that controlled the middle east.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2012,15:09) Hi ED,
The red dragon is identified in scripture as SATAN Rev 20.2
Nare you sure
? you should read it againQuote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,12:40) Hi Pierre, Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word “World”.
None of them ever controlled:1. North America
2. South America
3. New Zealand
4. AsiaIn more term empires that controlled the middle east.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2012,05:56) why is there a RED DRAGON what as this color in meaning
Hi Pierre, red means sin, based on Isaiah 1:18…“Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD:
though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow;
though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” (Isaiah 1:18)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,18:23) Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2012,05:56) why is there a RED DRAGON what as this color in meaning
Hi Pierre, red means sin, based on Isaiah 1:18…“Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD:
though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow;
though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” (Isaiah 1:18)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,11:23) Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2012,05:56) why is there a RED DRAGON what as this color in meaning
Hi Pierre, red means sin, based on Isaiah 1:18…“Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD:
though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow;
though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” (Isaiah 1:18)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
You are quite right Ed, sinful and violent, bloody, as are all of Satan's kingdoms are.Georg
Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,21:00) Hi Georg, Yes Georg, we agree here too.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
so to you guy's the red dragon is Satan?Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2012,14:39) Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,21:00) Hi Georg, Yes Georg, we agree here too.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
so to you guy's the red dragon is Satan?
Hi Pierre, do you disagree with Scripture?“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil,
and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:” (Rev 12:9)
“And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent,
which is the Devil, and Satan” (Rev 20:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,22:57) Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2012,14:39) Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,21:00) Hi Georg, Yes Georg, we agree here too.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
so to you guy's the red dragon is Satan?
Hi Pierre, do you disagree with Scripture?“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil,
and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:” (Rev 12:9)
“And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent,
which is the Devil, and Satan” (Rev 20:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34) 
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