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  • #310655
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2012,00:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 27 2012,01:24)

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    wup

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    Terra.

    I am talking spiritual here,so dont get confused.

    If we study the scriptures,(the words are spirit), we take in the spirit;and becomes our spirit.

    The majority have the spirit of the world(bab.).
    But we must have the spirit of Christ. not babylon.

    wakeup.

    I did understand it that way ,:)


    Terra.

    Good.

    Now can you understand who the red ragon is?
    The red dragon is satan himself,and the 7 heads are his 7 empires,starting with egypt.

    wakeup.


    wup

    NO, the scarlet beast is not Satan ,NO scripture to support that


    Terra.

    Did satan promise Jesus all the kingdoms of the world.Yes/No?

    Heads in prophesy means kingdoms.Yes/No?
    This scalrlet beast has 7 heads;7 kingdoms.
    Egypt———6th(rome)—7th(end time rome).—-8th not yet.

    Does this not tell us that the scarlet beast is satan?
    Is there a scripture that says the red dragon is not satan?

    wakeup.


    wup
    what I try to say to you ,is that call anyone THE SON OF SATAN as no direction ,because either you are Gods offspring or the offspring of the opposition what means of Satan ,that's mean the all what is not of God is of Satan right  yes

    so wen scriptures talk about one ,you also have to understand that it talks about the other,but in the opposite direction,

    All the beast are of Satan ,so was Nebut. but what is it that God does with all of them  why are those beast even mention into Gods word  if not for the righteous ,is not the righteous out of this world  the righteous as no part in this world ,so why all those details in what going or will to be happen

    please answer all of the questions

    so what the scriptures are telling is that their is a world called opposition and their is a world that his of God almighty.


    Terra.

    There is only one son of perdition That called himself God,that is going to control the world with the power of satan,and he is the false prophet.(the son of satan,not sons) for there are many sons of satan.This one will call himself God.

    All that is not in God is the sons of satan,that is of babylon.(we are not of babylon).

    There are also them that are both,the luke warm ones.
    worshipping God with their lips and not with their deeds.
    One foot in babylon, and the other foot in Zion.

    The few only are the true worshippers,that worship God in spirit and in truth. They are not of babylon, but of Zion.The spiritual holy city of God.

    wakeup.

    #310659
    terraricca
    Participant

    wup

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    Terra.

    There is only one son of perdition That called himself God,that is going to control the world with the power of satan,and he is the false prophet.(the son of satan,not sons) for there are many sons of satan.This one will call himself God.

    All that is not in God is the sons of satan,that is of babylon.(we are not of babylon).

    There are also them that are both,the luke warm ones.
    worshipping God with their lips and not with their deeds.
    One foot in babylon, and the other foot in Zion.

    The few only are the true worshippers,that worship God in spirit and in truth. They are not of babylon, but of Zion.The spiritual holy city of God.

    wakeup.

    see you do it again ,interpreting scriptures as YOU see fit ;jumping form here to there and try to show others that you know ,

    i am done ,

    #310661
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,01:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 26 2012,18:24)
    Terra.

    Did satan promise Jesus all the kingdoms of the world.Yes/No?

    Heads in prophesy means kingdoms.Yes/No?
    This scalrlet beast has 7 heads;7 kingdoms.
    Egypt———6th(rome)—7th(end time rome).—-8th not yet.

    Does this not tell us that the scarlet beast is satan?
    Is there a scripture that says the red dragon is not satan?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes, the sixth world Empire was the 'Roman empire'.
    And the seventh world Empire was the 'Ottoman Empire'.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Why cant you see that the ottoman empire has ceased to be an empire many, many, years ago,so how can the 8th come out of an empire that does not exist anymore?

    The 7th empire must be still in power; to tranform into the 8th.
    It can not come of a lame non existent kingdom,and in a short time becoming a world power.?

    Where can you fit in the ottoman empire in the image of Daniel? please show me.

    wakeup.

    #310860
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    The eighth Empire (of that region) is “Muhammadin islam”,
    and of the seventh(which was islamic).

    “And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death(Ottoman);
      and his deadly wound was healed(Muhammadin islam):” (Rev 13:3)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #310861
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup, (see chart below)

    Nebuchadnezzar's image ends with the Romean Empire
    and the Roman Empire is the 'sixth' head of the
    10 horned loin bear leopard beast. (Rev.13:1-3)


    1. Egypt
    2. Assyria
    3. Babylon           …Nebuchadnezzar's image starts    –  Gold Head     –     lion
    4. Medo-Persia                                                             –  silver arms    –    Bear
    5. Greece                                                                      –  brass thighs  –   Leopard
    6. Rome              …Nebuchadnezzar's image ends   –   clay/iron feet   –  10 horned beast    
    7. Ottoman                     …suffers a deadly wound
    8. Muhammadin'islam    …heals the deadly wound

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #310868
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,01:46)
    Hi Wakeup, (see chart below)

    Nebuchadnezzar's image ends with the Romean Empire
    and the Roman Empire is the 'sixth' head of the
    10 horned loin bear leopard beast. (Rev.13:1-3)


    1. Egypt
    2. Assyria
    3. Babylon           …Nebuchadnezzar's image starts    –  Gold Head     –     lion
    4. Medo-Persia                                                             –  silver arms    –    Bear
    5. Greece                                                                      –  brass thighs  –   Leopard
    6. Rome               …Nebuchadnezzar's image ends   –   clay/iron feet   –  10 horned beast    
    7. Ottoman                     …suffers a deadly wound
    8. Muhammadin'islam    …heals the deadly wound

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    The legs are of iron,then the feet and toes,mixed.
    There is no more after the toes,thats the whole image.
    Where did you get the extra 2 empires?

    ottoman and islam?

    wakeup.

    #310871
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,02:21)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,01:46)
    Hi Wakeup, (see chart below)

    Nebuchadnezzar's image ends with the Romean Empire
    and the Roman Empire is the 'sixth' head of the
    10 horned loin bear leopard beast. (Rev.13:1-3)


    1. Egypt
    2. Assyria
    3. Babylon           …Nebuchadnezzar's image starts    –  Gold Head     –     lion
    4. Medo-Persia                                                             –  silver arms    –    Bear
    5. Greece                                                                      –  brass thighs  –   Leopard
    6. Rome               …Nebuchadnezzar's image ends   –   clay/iron feet   –  10 horned beast    
    7. Ottoman                     …suffers a deadly wound

    8. Muhammadin'islam    …heals the deadly wound

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    The legs are of iron,then the feet and toes,mixed.
    There is no more after the toes,thats the whole image.
    Where did you get the extra 2 empires?

    ottoman and islam?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “And there are seven kings:
    five are fallen, and one is,
    and the other is not yet come

    …And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth,
    and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.” (Rev 17:10…11)  (see first post)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #310880
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,02:32)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,02:21)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,01:46)
    Hi Wakeup, (see chart below)

    Nebuchadnezzar's image ends with the Romean Empire
    and the Roman Empire is the 'sixth' head of the
    10 horned loin bear leopard beast. (Rev.13:1-3)


    1. Egypt
    2. Assyria
    3. Babylon           …Nebuchadnezzar's image starts    –  Gold Head     –     lion
    4. Medo-Persia                                                             –  silver arms    –    Bear
    5. Greece                                                                      –  brass thighs  –   Leopard
    6. Rome               …Nebuchadnezzar's image ends   –   clay/iron feet   –  10 horned beast    
    7. Ottoman                     …suffers a deadly wound

    8. Muhammadin'islam    …heals the deadly wound

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    The legs are of iron,then the feet and toes,mixed.
    There is no more after the toes,thats the whole image.
    Where did you get the extra 2 empires?

    ottoman and islam?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “And there are seven kings:
    five are fallen, and one is,
    and the other is not yet come

    …And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth,
    and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.” (Rev 17:10…11)  (see first post)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    You dont understand;
    The image is only from head to toes,no nothing after the toes. The image is not standing on stilts or anything.

    You added islam, and mohamadin islam,after the toes.
    Where from?

    wakeup.

    #310884
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    I told you, Nebuchadnezzar's dream only goes to the roman empire.
    Revelation explains further, what happens after the Roman empire.

    It may take you a while to absorb this
    as religious dogma has taken a hold on
    your current understanding of prophecy.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #310898
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,01:26)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The eighth Empire (of that region) is “Muhammadin islam”,
    and of the seventh(which was islamic).

    “And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death(Ottoman);
      and his deadly wound was healed(Muhammadin islam):” (Rev 13:3)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    EDJ.

    The ottoman empire was wounded you say?
    and his wound was healed and revived and became the mohamadin islam,today.
    This suppose to be an empire;where is that empire today? Who is in charge,is it, syria,egypt,arabia,palastine,jordan,ethiopia?

    Every muslem is migrating out from the east to the west,your country is full of them,all seeking sanctuary.
    why? So far; I see it is the west that is in charge.
    Something is not right here.

    wakeup.

    #310901
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,10:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,01:26)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The eighth Empire (of that region) is “Muhammadin islam”,
    and of the seventh(which was islamic).

    “And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death(Ottoman);
      and his deadly wound was healed(Muhammadin islam):” (Rev 13:3)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    EDJ.

    (1)The ottoman empire was wounded you say?
    (2)and his wound was healed and revived and became the mohamadin islam,today.
    (4)This suppose to be an empire;where is that empire today? Who is in charge,is it, syria,egypt,arabia,palastine,jordan,ethiopia?

    (4)Every muslem is migrating out from the east to the west,your country is full of them,all seeking sanctuary.
    why? So far;  I see it is the west that is in charge.
    Something is not right here.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    You are starting to get it now, but you still have misconceptions.

    1) Yes – at the battle of tours
    2) Yes
    3) the beast of Rev.17:3 controls them.

    4) Read Daniel 7:27 again, in this new light.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #310922
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,10:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,10:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,01:26)
    Hi Wakeup,

    The eighth Empire (of that region) is “Muhammadin islam”,
    and of the seventh(which was islamic).

    “And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death(Ottoman);
      and his deadly wound was healed(Muhammadin islam):” (Rev 13:3)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    EDJ.

    (1)The ottoman empire was wounded you say?
    (2)and his wound was healed and revived and became the mohamadin islam,today.
    (4)This suppose to be an empire;where is that empire today? Who is in charge,is it, syria,egypt,arabia,palastine,jordan,ethiopia?

    (4)Every muslem is migrating out from the east to the west,your country is full of them,all seeking sanctuary.
    why? So far;  I see it is the west that is in charge.
    Something is not right here.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    You are starting to get it now, but you still have misconceptions.

    1) Yes – at the battle of tours
    2) Yes
    3) the beast of Rev.17:3 controls them.

    4) Read Daniel 7:27 again, in this new light.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    Edj.

    Are your saying that Christs kingdom is the west now?
    Then why is Christ coming to destoy all the cities of the nations?(babylon the great).

    wakeup.

    #310926
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,14:01)
    Edj.

    (1)Are your saying that Christs kingdom is the west now?
    (2)Then why is Christ coming to destoy all the cities of the nations?(babylon the great).

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) We are the children of Joseph;
    the UK is Ephraim and the US is Manasseh.

    2) Isaiah 13:3-5 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger,
    even them that rejoice in my highness. The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people;
    a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the “LORD of Hosts” mustereth the host of the battle.
    They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #310932
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,15:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,14:01)
    Edj.

    (1)Are your saying that Christs kingdom is the west now?
    (2)Then why is Christ coming to destoy all the cities of the nations?(babylon the great).

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) We are the children of Joseph;
    the UK is Ephraim and the US is Manasseh.

    2) Isaiah 13:3-5 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger,
    even them that rejoice in my highness. The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people;
    a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the “LORD of Hosts” mustereth the host of the battle.
    They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    EdJ.

    This does not compute,Jesus said many are called but a few chosen.

    Eprhaim is england and manaseh is america.
    what about israel?

    wakeup.

    #310933
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,16:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,15:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,14:01)
    Edj.

    (1)Are your saying that Christs kingdom is the west now?
    (2)Then why is Christ coming to destoy all the cities of the nations?(babylon the great).

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) We are the children of Joseph;
    the UK is Ephraim and the US is Manasseh.

    2) Isaiah 13:3-5 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger,
    even them that rejoice in my highness. The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people;
    a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the “LORD of Hosts” mustereth the host of the battle.
    They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    EdJ.

    This does not compute,Jesus said many are called but a few chosen.

    Eprhaim is england and manaseh is america.
    what about israel?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    There are 12 tribes, Judah is only one of them.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #310936
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,16:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,16:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,15:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,14:01)
    Edj.

    (1)Are your saying that Christs kingdom is the west now?
    (2)Then why is Christ coming to destoy all the cities of the nations?(babylon the great).

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) We are the children of Joseph;
    the UK is Ephraim and the US is Manasseh.

    2) Isaiah 13:3-5 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger,
    even them that rejoice in my highness. The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people;
    a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the “LORD of Hosts” mustereth the host of the battle.
    They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    EdJ.

    This does not compute,Jesus said many are called but a few chosen.

    Eprhaim is england and manaseh is america.
    what about israel?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    There are 12 tribes, Judah is only one of them.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    What bout Judah then?

    wakeup.

    #310940
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Lots of people who study theology, want to put
    all of the children of Israel into the tribe of Judah.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #310944
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,16:49)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Lots of people who study theology, want to put
    all of the children of Israel into the tribe of Judah.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    What about the tribe of judah,whats the story here?

    wakeup.

    #310967
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,17:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,16:49)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Lots of people who study theology, want to put
    all of the children of Israel into the tribe of Judah.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    What about the tribe of judah,whats the story here?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    The tribe Judah…

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #310977
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,04:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2012,17:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2012,16:49)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Lots of people who study theology, want to put
    all of the children of Israel into the tribe of Judah.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    What about the tribe of judah,whats the story here?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    The tribe Judah…

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    If all the getiles will be saved except muslems,then we dont have to worry about anything,lets live and be merry,and enjoy life.
    For only the muslems will be cast in the fire.
    This is why the falling away.

    wakeup.

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