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- April 15, 2010 at 4:42 am#187177NickHassanParticipant
Hi T,
Yes we too easily follow the men we can see.April 15, 2010 at 5:07 am#187183ElizabethParticipantQuote (t8 @ Nov. 05 2006,09:55) Romans 8:16
16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.Romans 8:16 speaks of two witnesses, the Holy Spirit and our human spirit. They both bear witness that we are the sons of God.
This in keeping with the OT principle that all matters need to be verified by at least two witnesses?
To be born-again or born from above means that we have the Spirit of God. The Spirit and our spirit are witnesses to the fact that we are God's children. So yes we can be born from above now, and this is how we know that we are God's children.
Romans 8:15 says:
15 For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.”So it clearly says that we HAVE received a spirit, the spirit of sonship. Clearly this is not talking about a future event.
t8 The Old W.W.Church of God even after Mr. Armstrong died, taught of what Mr. Armstrong did for about 10 years. We belonged from 1984 to 1994. It was when the Young Mr. Tkatch took over when they went back to believing in whatever the Mainstream Christianity believes. Trinity Easter Christmas you name it……But the Philadelphia Trumpet I don't think that they did. I know someone who is a member there now. That would really surprise me, if He would go back to believing in the Trinity….But like I said if you go to the Website of the W.W.Church of God you will find that they went back also….
Peace and Love IreneApril 15, 2010 at 5:07 am#187184terrariccaParticipantnick
i stop fallowing men 38 years ago,the only men i fallow is not a men no more ,he is my Lord.and the son of my GOD
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