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Why is it that some try to distort the word of God saying “peace” when there is no peace?
They tell the unbelievers “don't worry your disbelief will be rewarded”
Those who disbelieve and those who worship Jesus above God or make him equal to God will face a severe punishment.
Those who call Jesus God will face a severe punishment.
Jeremiah 6:13-15 (King James Version)
13For from the least of them even unto the greatest of them every one is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely.
14They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
15Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.
To wit, the prophets of Israel which prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and which see visions of peace for her, and there is no peace, saith the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 13:15-17Atheists believe that these fantasy punishments are all in the believer's deluded mind.
That is what all the evidence suggests is true, too.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Feb. 08 2010,17:15) Atheists believe that these fantasy punishments are all in the believer's deluded mind. That is what all the evidence suggests is true, too.
Stuart
Why do you keep talking about evidence? You have no evidence that Hell doesn't exist but you do have proof that pain and punishment happens even on earth.Keep disbelieving and you will see for yourself
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,17:23) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 08 2010,17:15) Atheists believe that these fantasy punishments are all in the believer's deluded mind. That is what all the evidence suggests is true, too.
Stuart
Why do you keep talking about evidence? You have no evidence that Hell doesn't exist but you do have proof that pain and punishment happens even on earth.Keep disbelieving and you will see for yourself
You can't prove a negative, remember?Another logical fallacy for the BD museum. Third floor, I think, next to the collection of arguments from incredulity.
Stuart
Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 09 2010,02:45) BD, can you show us evidence that Leprechauns aren't hiding a big pot of gold?
Why would I want to? Why would I even care?You care if God exists, if you didn't you wouldn't argue the point one way or the other and hence because you do argue the point you will be without excuse when the fire comes into full view and you and others like you are driven into HELL like a herd of Cattle.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,16:22) Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 09 2010,02:45) BD, can you show us evidence that Leprechauns aren't hiding a big pot of gold?
Why would I want to? Why would I even care?Well, there you have it.
You have no evidence that leprechauns or their posts of gold do not exist, just as you claimed Stud had no evidence that hell does not exist. Therefore leprechauns and hell are both just figments of the imagination.
Quote You care if God exists, if you didn't you wouldn't argue the point one way or the other and hence because you do argue the point you will be without excuse when the fire comes into full view and you and others like you are driven into HELL like a herd of Cattle.
Not really. I just like to debate about these things on Internet forums. Its fun to watch people come up with all sorts of wild excuses for their beliefs.But I guess I do care because those who believe in leprechauns don't commit acts of terror or try to force their laws and beliefs on others.
Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 09 2010,09:41) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,16:22) Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 09 2010,02:45) BD, can you show us evidence that Leprechauns aren't hiding a big pot of gold?
Why would I want to? Why would I even care?Well, there you have it.
You have no evidence that leprechauns or their posts of gold do not exist, just as you claimed Stud had no evidence that hell does not exist. Therefore leprechauns and hell are both just figments of the imagination.
Quote You care if God exists, if you didn't you wouldn't argue the point one way or the other and hence because you do argue the point you will be without excuse when the fire comes into full view and you and others like you are driven into HELL like a herd of Cattle.
Not really. I just like to debate about these things on Internet forums. Its fun to watch people come up with all sorts of wild excuses for their beliefs.But I guess I do care because those who believe in leprechauns don't commit acts of terror or try to force their laws and beliefs on others.
You mean like Atheist do?What atheist is forcing their beliefs on you BD?
Judging from your efforts on YouTube and elsewhere it is the other way round.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Feb. 09 2010,16:35) What atheist is forcing their beliefs on you BD? Judging from your efforts on YouTube and elsewhere it is the other way round.
Stuart
No one is forcing anything on me but if Atheists have control they will persecute believers they have a proven track record of doing so.Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 09 2010,16:46) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 09 2010,16:35) What atheist is forcing their beliefs on you BD? Judging from your efforts on YouTube and elsewhere it is the other way round.
Stuart
No one is forcing anything on me but if Atheists have control they will persecute believers they have a proven track record of doing so.
The track record is that communists impose communism on people, islamists impose islam on people, secular democracies live and let live in peace, generally.I require nothing of you but logical argument, BD. I have no need to lock you up, or to tell you what you should think.
Shame that cannot be said for those living in islamic republics or evangelical households.
Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,22:42) You mean like Atheist do?
This is the only theist site I still post on. In fact, my posting frequency here had about fizzled until you showed up with you inanities. I'm not the one going on theist boards like you do. Stu showed some of your posting history. Why don't you stick with the Muslim boards?As your staus shows (Skeptic), you are every bit as welcome on this board as Stu and I are. In other words, you are an intruder.
Why don't you take your own advice?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,23:46) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 09 2010,16:35) What atheist is forcing their beliefs on you BD? Judging from your efforts on YouTube and elsewhere it is the other way round.
Stuart
No one is forcing anything on me but if Atheists have control they will persecute believers they have a proven track record of doing so.
Gee BD, can you read history? Your own religion grew by the sword. Zoroastrianism was the Persian religion until Muslims conquered them and forced them to convert at sword point.Pot, kettle, black.
Quote (Stu @ Feb. 08 2010,17:15) Atheists believe that these fantasy punishments are all in the believer's deluded mind. That is what all the evidence suggests is true, too.
Stuart
logical rule, only the stupid are punishedQuote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,17:23) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 08 2010,17:15) Atheists believe that these fantasy punishments are all in the believer's deluded mind. That is what all the evidence suggests is true, too.
Stuart
Why do you keep talking about evidence? You have no evidence that Hell doesn't exist but you do have proof that pain and punishment happens even on earth.Keep disbelieving and you will see for yourself
why is disbelieving such an offense that is worthy of punishment?Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 09 2010,09:22) Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 09 2010,02:45) BD, can you show us evidence that Leprechauns aren't hiding a big pot of gold?
Why would I want to? Why would I even care?You care if God exists, if you didn't you wouldn't argue the point one way or the other and hence because you do argue the point you will be without excuse when the fire comes into full view and you and others like you are driven into HELL like a herd of Cattle.
doesn't add up…you may have been reared an convinced to fighting a very old family battle.Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 09 2010,20:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,22:42) You mean like Atheist do?
This is the only theist site I still post on. In fact, my posting frequency here had about fizzled until you showed up with you inanities. I'm not the one going on theist boards like you do. Stu showed some of your posting history. Why don't you stick with the Muslim boards?As your staus shows (Skeptic), you are every bit as welcome on this board as Stu and I are. In other words, you are an intruder.
Why don't you take your own advice?
If you have been posting more how is that a bad thing? Perhaps you are starting to learn something otherwise why so communicative suddenly?I am skeptical of atheists and I am sceptical of “people of religion” that treat people who believe as if they are atheist.
Quote (charity @ Feb. 09 2010,21:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,17:23) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 08 2010,17:15) Atheists believe that these fantasy punishments are all in the believer's deluded mind. That is what all the evidence suggests is true, too.
Stuart
Why do you keep talking about evidence? You have no evidence that Hell doesn't exist but you do have proof that pain and punishment happens even on earth.Keep disbelieving and you will see for yourself
why is disbelieving such an offense that is worthy of punishment?
It is the ultimate form of ungratefulness, it's the same principle as being “hired” to do a job and neglect to do it because you simply don't care, what will happen the person will get “FIRED”The same way with God you will be thrown out of the “Company” Seperated from those “Employed” and cut off from all your “Benefits”
Since there is no other company to go to you will be with those who are outside the gates gnashing their teeth and wailing. If you had been grateful then even if the “JOB” was difficult you would have prevailed.
Quote (charity @ Feb. 09 2010,21:49) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 09 2010,09:22) Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 09 2010,02:45) BD, can you show us evidence that Leprechauns aren't hiding a big pot of gold?
Why would I want to? Why would I even care?You care if God exists, if you didn't you wouldn't argue the point one way or the other and hence because you do argue the point you will be without excuse when the fire comes into full view and you and others like you are driven into HELL like a herd of Cattle.
doesn't add up…you may have been reared an convinced to fighting a very old family battle.
What are you talking about?
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