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  • #341896
    journey42
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    Quote (terraricca @ April 15 2013,11:30)
    all

    understanding is the key;

    Am 9:11 “In that day I will restore
    David’s fallen tent.
    I will repair its broken places,
    restore its ruins,
    and build it as it used to be,
    Am 9:12 so that they may possess the remnant of Edom
    and all the nations that bear my name,”
    declares the LORD, who will do these things.
    Am 9:13 “The days are coming,” declares the LORD,

    “when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman
    and the planter by the one treading grapes.
    New wine will drip from the mountains
    and flow from all the hills.
    Am 9:14 I will bring back my exiled people Israel;
    they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them.
    They will plant vineyards and drink their wine;
    they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
    Am 9:15 I will plant Israel in their own land,
    never again to be uprooted
    from the land I have given them,”

    says the LORD your God.

    wen did this happen ??? you think


    Pierre,

    Don't you mean “when will this happen”?

    #341897
    keras
    Participant

    Thanks wakeup, at least you don't dismiss it out of hand.
    How do you figure 2022 for the Return?
    The 7 years to bury the dead fits exactly between 2016 and 2023 – the signing of a peace treaty with the AC.

    Jeremiah 25:11 is past history, the Babylonian captivity, but after that it is end time prophecy. Verse 29 says the Lord will bring a sword against all the inhabitants of the earth and goes on to describe the great noise, tempest, ruin and deaths caused by His judgement/punishment of the nations. This fits with other prophecies and the 6th seal, and is a sunstrike – coronal mass ejection. This could happen at any time, be prepared! Isaiah 24:1-6

    #341903
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (keras @ April 16 2013,07:44)
    Thanks wakeup, at least you don't dismiss it out of hand.
    How do you figure 2022 for the Return?
    The 7 years to bury the dead fits exactly between 2016 and 2023 – the signing of a peace treaty with the AC.

    Jeremiah 25:11 is past history, the Babylonian captivity, but after that it is end time prophecy. Verse 29 says the Lord will bring a sword against all the inhabitants of the earth and goes on to describe the great noise, tempest, ruin and deaths caused by  His judgement/punishment of the nations. This fits with other prophecies and the 6th seal, and is a sunstrike – coronal mass ejection. This could happen at any time, be prepared! Isaiah 24:1-6


    Keras.

    You are very very close,and I appreciate that very much.I tried that way before but only got to Abraham and the coming out of egypt.
    From there on it is from abraham to David =14 generations,
    and from david to Jesus =14 generations.
    So I did not get far, enough.

    Jer 25; is a DUAL prophecy.

    Jeremiah 25:9 Behold, I will send and take all the **FAMILIES OF THE NORTH**, saith the LORD, *AND* Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, *AND* will bring them against this land, and against the inhabitants thereof, *AND AGAINST ALL THESE NATIONS ROUND ABOUT*, and will utterly destroy them, and make them an astonishment, and an hissing, and *PERPETUAL DESOLATION*.(ETERNAL DESOLATION).

    THE FAMILIES OF THE NORTH; BABYLON IS *EAST*,NOT NORTH. THE FAMILIES OF THE NORTH IS EUROPE;WILL COME IN TO ISRAEL. ISRAEL TODAY IS SERVING BABYLON,AND IT WILL BE FOR 70YRS, COUNTING FROM 1948. NOTE PERPETUAL DESOLAION.

    Jeremiah 25:10 Moreover I will take from them the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride, the sound of the millstones, and the light of the candle. (REV.18:22).

    Jeremiah 25:11 And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and *THESE NATIONS* shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.
    THE NATIONS ARE TODAY SERVING THE KING OF BABYLON.

    Jeremiah 25:12 And it shall come to pass, WHEN *SEVENTY YEARS ARE ACCOMPLISHED*, THAT I WILL PUNISH THE KING OF BABYLON, *AND THAT NATION*, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it *PERPETUAL DESOLATION*.

    Jeremiah 25:13 And I will bring upon that land *ALL MY WORDS* which I have pronounced against it, even *ALL THAT IS WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK*, which Jeremiah hath prophesied *AGAINST ALL THE NATIONS*.

    ALL THAT IS WRITTEN IN THIS CHAPTER,MUST BE FULFILLED.

    Jeremiah 25:14 *FOR MANY NATIONS AND GREAT KINGS SHALL SERVE THEMSELVES OF THEM ALSO*: and I will recompense them according to their deeds, and according to the *WORKS OF THEIR OWN HANDS*.

    MANY NATIONS AND GREAT KINGS SHALL SERVE BABYLON ALSO. THE WORLD HAS BECOME AS BABYLON.(BABYLON THE GREAT).

    Jeremiah 25:15 For thus saith the LORD God of Israel unto me; Take the *WINE CUP OF THIS FURY* at my hand, and cause *ALL THE NATIONS*, to whom I send thee, to drink it.(THE WRATH OF GOD).

    Jeremiah 25:16 And they shall drink, and be moved, AND BE MAD, because of the sword that I will send among them.

    Jeremiah 25:17 Then took I the cup at the LORD'S hand, and *MADE ALL NATIONS TO DRINK*, unto whom the LORD had sent me:

    Jeremiah 25:18 To wit, Jerusalem, and the cities of Judah, and the kings thereof, and the princes thereof, to make them a desolation, an astonishment, an hissing, and a curse; *AS IT IS THIS DAY*; (AS JERUSALEM WAS THEN).

    Jeremiah 25:19 Pharaoh king of Egypt, and his servants, and his princes, and all his people;

    Jeremiah 25:20 And all the mingled people, and all the kings of the land of Uz, and all the kings of the land of the Philistines, and Ashkelon, and Azzah, and Ekron, and the remnant of Ashdod,

    Jeremiah 25:21 Edom, and Moab, and the children of Ammon,

    Jeremiah 25:22 And all the kings of Tyrus, and all the kings of Zidon, and the kings of the isles which are beyond the sea,

    Jeremiah 25:23 Dedan, and Tema, and Buz, and all that are in the utmost corners,

    Jeremiah 25:24 And all the kings of Arabia, and all the kings of the mingled people that dwell in the desert,

    Jeremiah 25:25 And all the kings of Zimri, and all the kings of Elam, and all the kings of the Medes,

    THESE NATIONS ARE NAMED BY THEIR OLD NAMES,FOR THEM PEOPLE BACK THEN TO UNDERSTAND.
    Those people would not have known their new names today.

    WHEN THE 70YRS ARE FINISHED ISRAEL WILL BE PUNISHED.

    VERS 29. FOR LO,I **BEGIN** TO BRING EVIL ON THE CITY WHICH IS CALLED BY MY NAME(JERUSALEM),AND SHOULD YOU BE UTTERLY UNPUNISHED? YE SHALL NOT BE UNPUNISHED: FOR I WILL CALL FOR A SWORD *UPON ALL THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH* (BEGINNING WITH ISRAEL).

    ISRAEL WILL BE TAKEN BY *THE FAMILIES OF THE NORTH*
    THE MEDES WILL STAND UP;LEADING TO THE 3RD WW.
    CHRIST WILL APPEAR IN THE CLOUDS;WAR WILL STOP;
    CHRIST WILL GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO GATHER TO GATHER*(TO AGREE TO MAKE WAR WITH THE LORD)* IN A PLACE CALLED MEGIDDO;THEN DESTROYED IN ONE DAY.

    Greetings to you.
    wakeup.

    #341907
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ April 15 2013,22:00)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 15 2013,11:30)
    all

    understanding is the key;

    Am 9:11 “In that day I will restore
    David’s fallen tent.
    I will repair its broken places,
    restore its ruins,
    and build it as it used to be,
    Am 9:12 so that they may possess the remnant of Edom
    and all the nations that bear my name,”
    declares the LORD, who will do these things.
    Am 9:13 “The days are coming,” declares the LORD,

    “when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman
    and the planter by the one treading grapes.
    New wine will drip from the mountains
    and flow from all the hills.
    Am 9:14 I will bring back my exiled people Israel;
    they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them.
    They will plant vineyards and drink their wine;
    they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
    Am 9:15 I will plant Israel in their own land,
    never again to be uprooted
    from the land I have given them,”

    says the LORD your God.

    wen did this happen ??? you think


    Pierre,

    Don't you mean “when will this happen”?


    yes J42 it is when thanks

    #341911
    2besee
    Participant

    Or…

    Amos’ Prophecy Fulfilled

    http://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/amos-prophecy-fulfilled/

      “After they finished speaking, James replied, ‘Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree’” (vv. 13–15).
      – Acts 15:1–21

    Our best resource for understanding the Old Testament prophets is their inspired interpretation in the New Testament. So, we turn to Acts 15:1–21 to see how the Apostles explain the fulfillment of Amos 9:11–15.

    The most significant issue the church faced in its earliest days was the place of Gentiles in the new covenant, particularly the Gentiles’ relationship to the Mosaic law. Circumcision was the flash point. For instance, the Judaizers’ attempt to impose circumcision upon the Gentile Christians in Galatia prompted Paul to write his epistle to the Galatians (Gal. 2:1–16; 5:2–4). Many Jewish Christians thought Gentile believers had to obey even the ceremonial aspects of the law of Moses. By the first century AD, after all, faithful Jews had been following this law for nearly fifteen hundred years. When they read about “the nations who are called by my name” in Amos 9:11–12, Jews naturally thought of what it meant for them to be called by God—which included the mark of circumcision—and they applied this to the Gentiles.

    Yet when the Gentiles en masse began bowing to the God of Israel via faith in His Son, Jesus Christ, a remarkable thing happened. Gentile Christians were receiving the new covenant promise of the Holy Spirit without being circumcised (Acts 10; see Joel 2:28–29). The Apostles turned to the Old Testament to understand what was happening, and found that they had to reconsider their long-standing assumptions about what the prophets meant when they predicted the conversion of the nations. At the first church council in history, in Jerusalem, the Apostle James cited Amos 9:11–15 and reminded the gathered church leaders that the new covenant promise of Gentile inclusion was being fulfilled with the Gentiles’ faith in Yahweh through His Son. If God saw fit to accept the Gentiles without circumcision, the church could do no less (Acts 15:12–18).

    The Apostles did not believe the Mosaic law had no place in the lives of Gentile Christians. Acts 15:19–21 reveals that all believers are bound by God’s eternal moral law, which is found in the Mosaic code alongside ceremonial and civil legislation. Before Christ, the Lord did not condemn the Gentiles for not keeping Israel’s ceremonial rules, but only for violating the moral law found on the consciences of all people (Amos 1:1–2:3). This did not change when the Gentiles became full members of the new covenant.
    Coram Deo

    In His great grace, God has restored the tent of David, raising His Son from the dead and seating Him on His throne. As a consequence, He is bringing the nations to worship His Son and join His covenant people. There are many peoples and nations, however, that have not yet been brought into the kingdom through faith in Christ. We are to be witnesses and lights that point people to God’s Son, calling them to faith so that His church will include all the nations called by the Lord’s name.

    Passages for Further Study

    Psalm 86:8–9
    Ephesians 3:1–6

    #341941
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ April 16 2013,12:13)
    Gentile Christians were receiving the new covenant promise of the Holy Spirit without being circumcised (Acts 10; see Joel 2:28–29).


    Hi 2Besee,

    You try to make a point of deletion to the practice of circumcision,
    would that point not also apply to water baptism?  (ref. Acts 10:45)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #341943
    2besee
    Participant

    Hi Ed No,

    Acts 10:44-48 While Peter was still saying this, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word.
    And the believers from among the circumcised who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles.
    For they heard them speaking in tongues and extolling God.
    Then Peter declared,
    “Can any one forbid water for baptizing these people who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?”
    And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

    Then they asked him to remain for some days.

    #341944
    2besee
    Participant

    (This is off topic, sorry)

    But of course the 'Teachers' up here ignore what Jesus and the Disciples taught – and they say (You included Ed) that Water Baptism is not necessary, despite what scripture do say – because most of you are Hyperdispensationilists (It appears!)

    Scriptures:

    John.3:1-12
    Mark 16:16
    Acts 2:38
    Acts.19:1-6
    Acts 2:38-41
    Acts 10:44-48
    Romans 6:4
    Matt 28:19  
    1st Peter,18-22

    Early Church:

    Justin Martyr, 110-165 AD

    “There, the one who refuses to be baptized is to be condemned as an unbeliever, partially on the basis of what Jesus told Nicodemus…. “He that, out of contempt, will not be baptized, shall be condemned as an unbeliever, and shall be reproached as ungrateful and foolish. For the Lord says: ‘Except a man be baptized of water and of the Spirit, he shall by no means enter into the kingdom of heaven.’ And again: ‘He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved but he that believeth not shall be damned.’”

    “There is no other way [to obtain God's promises] than this – to become acquainted with Christ, to be washed in the fountain spoken of by Isaiah for the remission of sins, and for the remainder, to live sinless lives.”

    “Those who are convinced that what we teach is true and who desire to live accordingly are instructed to fast and to pray to God for the remission of all their past sins. We also pray and fast with them. Then we bring them to a place where there is water, and they are regenerated in the same manner in which we ourselves were regenerated. They then receive the washing with water in the name of God (the Father and Lord of the universe) and of our Savior Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit. For Christ said, ‘Unless you are born again, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven”‘ (John 3:5).

    Theophilus, 115-188 AD

    “On the fifth day the living creatures which proceed from the waters were produced, through which also is revealed the manifold wisdom of God in these things; for who could count their multitude and various kinds? Moreover, the things proceeding from the waters were blessed by God, that this also might be a sign of men’s being destined to receive repentance and remission of sins, through the water and laver of regeneration, as many as come to the truth, and are born again, and receive blessing from God.”

    “Moreover, those things which were created from the waters were blessed by God, so that this might also be a sign that men would at a future time receive repentance and remission of sins through water and the bath of regeneration all who proceed to the truth and are born again and receive a blessing from God”

    Irenaeus 120-205 AD

    “As we are lepers in sin, we are made clean from our old transgressions by means of the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord. We are thus spiritually regenerated as newborn infants, even as the Lord has declared: ‘Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.’”

    “This class of men have been instigated by Satan to a denial of that baptism which is regeneration to God, and thus to a renunciation of the whole faith.”

    “And Naaman dipped himself seven times in the Jordan’ (2 Kgs. 5:14). It was not for nothing that Naaman of old, when suffering from leprosy, was purified upon his being baptized, but [this served] as an indication to us. For as we are lepers in sin, we are made clean, by means of the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord, from our old transgressions, being spiritually regenerated as new-born babes, even as the Lord has declared: `Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’”

    Harsh words by Irenaeus.
    Anyway – no more to say. Take care.

    #341946
    Wakeup
    Participant

    2Besee.

    Many baptised with water,but luke warm christians.
    Many not babtised with water but with the Holy spirit
    true followers.

    Which ones do you think will be accepted by Christ?

    Remember Christs words; ''Many will come to me and say :Lord,Lord,we did this, and we did that, in your name.
    BUT I WIL SAY, GET AWAY FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESNESS.

    So where is the power of water babtism?

    wakeup.

    #341947
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ April 16 2013,19:29)
    (This is off topic, sorry)

    But of course the 'Teachers' up here ignore what Jesus and the Disciples taught – and they say (You included Ed) that Water Baptism is not necessary, despite what scripture do say – because most of you are Hyperdispensationilists (It appears!)

    Anyway – no more to say. Take care.


    Hi 2Besee,

    Acts 19:2-7 He said unto them, Have ye received the HolySpirit since ye believed?
    And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any HolySpirit.
    3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, (1)Unto John's baptism.
    4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him
    which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 (2)When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
    6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the HolySpirit came on them
    ; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
    7 And all the men were about twelve.

    Which of these “two” baptisms do you thick Jesus was referring to when commissioned the Apostles to baptize?

    1. Water baptism?   -or-  
    2. Baptize disciples with the HolySpirit?

    1. Paul said, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance.

    2. Jesus (through Paul) baptized them with the HolySpirit by the laying on of hands (see Acts 19:5-6).


    “I thank God that I baptized none of you” (1 Cor 1:14)
        Is the Apostle Paul not referring to water baptism here?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #341948
    2besee
    Participant

    Wakeup and Ed, This is totally off topic, but HOW MUCH LONGER are you going to TEACH against the Disciples and against the Lords instructions?

    The scripture which you gave me, Ed, needs to be put with the other scriptures, and I do not want to repost them, I gave you a list above.

    Bad, really bad.

    Anyway, another topic another day, maybe.

    #341949
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ April 16 2013,20:10)
    Bad, really bad.


    Funny, how Wakeup says the same thing to me when I disagree with him also. :D

    #341950
    2besee
    Participant

    Hi Ed.  
    I will leave you with this:

    Tertullian, 140-230 AD

    The consequence is, that a viper of the Cainite heresy, lately conversant in this quarter, has carried away a great number with her most venomous doctrine, making it her first aim to destroy baptism. Which is quite in accordance with nature; for vipers and asps and serpents themselves generally do affect arid and waterless places. But we, little fishes after the example of our ikhthus, Jesus Christ, are born in water, nor have we safety in any other way than by permanently abiding in water; so that most monstrous creature, who had no right to teach even sound doctrine, knew full well how to kill the little fishes, by taking them away from the water!”

    #341951
    2besee
    Participant

    Wakeup, Ed, Listen to Peter. Please.  

    “”Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”

    Amen.

    #341952
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ April 16 2013,20:38)
    Wakeup, Ed, Listen to Peter. Please.  

    “”Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”

    Amen.


    Hi 2Besee,

    Acts 2:38 was NOT, NOT, NOT, NOT, said the Gentiles!

    Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them(THE JEWS), Repent, and be baptized every one of you
    in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the HolySpirit.

    Here is what is said to the Gentiles:

    “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart
      that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man
      believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”  (Rom.10:9-10)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #341953
    2besee
    Participant

    Ed,

    You are looking at one little verse, and ignoring all of the other scriptures!

    Anyway, we have had this discussion before. You can teach whatever you want to. Up to you.

    Bye.

    No more said.

    #341955
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ April 16 2013,20:10)
    Wakeup and Ed, This is totally off topic, but HOW MUCH LONGER are you going to TEACH against the Disciples and against the Lords instructions?

    The scripture which you gave me, Ed, needs to be put with the other scriptures, and I do not want to repost them, I gave you a list above.

    Bad, really bad.

    Anyway, another topic another day, maybe.


    2Besee.

    Why again did you ignore my question?
    which one of the two will be accepted?

    wakeup.

    #341957
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 16 2013,23:40)
    2Besee.

    Why again did you ignore my question?
    which one of the two will be accepted?

    wakeup.

    The one doing the will of the Father.

    #341958
    journey42
    Participant

    2besee,April wrote:

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    Or…

    Amos’ Prophecy Fulfilled

    http://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/amos-prophecy-fulfilled/

      “After they finished speaking, James replied, ‘Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree’” (vv. 13–15).
      – Acts 15:1–21

    Quote
    Our best resource for understanding the Old Testament prophets is their inspired interpretation in the New Testament. So, we turn to Acts 15:1–21 to see how the Apostles explain the fulfillment of Amos 9:11–15.

    2Besse,

    The reason I started this post in the first place, is to show the christians who are hungry for truth that they are missing a big chunk of the picture.  Please do not think that I am picking on you, or contrary to whatever you say, I am going to come from a different angle, and i would just like you to consider this before I go into Amos.

    Do you remember the Woman?  We tried to explain earlier, that this Woman mentioned in Rev 12 is God's doctrine.  His truth, and how this truth comes from heaven,… from above, not from below.

    The scriptures below prove to us that when Christ conquered death, he was resurrected, and taken up to God in heaven.  Then  Satan and his angels were kicked out of heaven for good.

    Rev 12:5   And she (THE WOMAN/GOD'S DOCTRINE) brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne (Christ's resurrection)

    Rev 12:7   And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
    Rev 12:8   And prevailed not: neither was their place found any more in heaven.
    Rev 12:9   And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
    Rev 12:10   And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
    (NOW THE DOOR IS OPENED TO ALL, BUT MUST COME THROUGH CHRIST…BUT ONE PROBLEM, THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS ARE ALL HERE ON EARTH) 

    REV 12:12   Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.  Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea!……. for the devil is come down unto you having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. (THIS IS WHEN THE DEVIL HAD GREAT WRATH, AFTER CHRIST'S RESURRECTION.   THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN THE BEGINNING, IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN, BUT AFTER CHRIST'S RESURRECTION)

    Rev 12:13   And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. (THE WOMAN IS GOD'S TEACHINGS.  THE TRUTH. THE DEVIL IS PERSECUTING THE TRUTH.  HE IS TAMPERING WITH IT, THE TRUTH)

    Rev 12:15   And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. (WHAT COMES OUT OF THE SERPENTS MOUTH IS LIES.  IN HIS WRATH HE SENDS A FLOOD AFTER THE WOMAN (GOD'S DOCTRINE, THE TRUTH) THIS IS SATAN'S WEAPON.  DESTROYING THE TRUTH WITH LIES.  TAMPERING WITH GOD'S WORD.  SOFT KILL. WHERE WOULD ONE GO TO DO THIS?  YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF THIS.  STRAIGHT TO THE CHRISTIAN WORLD.  HIS SPECIALTY IS TO CORRUPT THE WORD OF GOD.  AT THE SAME TIME HE IS IN THE WORLD, AMONGST THE “EXPERTS” IN THEOLOGY AND HISTORY AND INVENTS A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROOF, A FALSE PROOF GIVING FALSE ACCOUNTS, FALSE DEFINITIONS, FALSE DATES, REINVENTING THE HOLY BIBLE AND ISSUING SO MANY COPIES TO CHOOSE FROM.  TOTAL CHAOS.  A FLOOD ALRIGHT.

    CHRIST WARNED US TO FEED ON HIS FLESH.  THIS MEAN'S TO STUDY THE WORD OF GOD.  STUDY THE ACTUAL SCRIPTURES THEMSELVES.  THEY CONTAIN THE ANSWERS. PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER, AND YOU WILL SEE A DIFFERENT PICTURE TO THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US.  FOR THE FLOOD DESTROYS THE REAL PICTURE, AND WATERS DOWN THE TRUTH.  THE FLOOD CARRIES US AWAY, BUT IF WE STAY TRUE TO CHRIST AND HEED WHAT HE IS TELLING US, THEN HE WILL FILL US HIMSELF.  WE CANNOT GOOGLE THE TRUTH OF GOD'S INTERPRETATION.  THE TRUTH IS NOT ON GOOGLE.  ANYTHING THAT IS NOT OF THE TRUTH IS OF EASY ACCESS, BECAUSE IT'S OF THE WORLD, BUT THE REAL TRUTH IS IN THE WORD OF GOD.  THIS IS CHRIST'S FLESH.  THE WORD OF GOD.  THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT DOCTRINES ON GOOGLE.  WE COULD PICK WHICH ONE WE FANCY, BUT THAT IS NOT HOW GOD WANT'S US TO SEARCH AND FEED.  WE SHOULD ANSWER IN OUR OWN WORDS, AND SHOW WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE PREACHING.  THE TRUTH GOES WITH US EVERYWHERE, BUT GOOGLE DOESN'T.  BE READY TO GIVE AN ANSWER IN SEASON AND OUT. IF WE FOLLOW WHAT CHRIST SAYS, THEN HE WILL NOT HOLD BACK THE TRUTH, BUT WILL GIVE IT FREELY, BUT WE HAVE TO OBEY FIRST.

    I WILL LOOK INTO AMOS TOMORROW, BECAUSE THEY ARE STRONG SCRIPTURES, AND REFER TO THE 2 COMING. FUTURE, BECAUSE THAT GOOGLE EXPLANATION WAS CAUGHT UP IN THE FLOOD, AND TOTALY CONFUSING.  BY THE TIME I READ THE LAST BIT, I FORGOT THE FIRST BIT.  THE TRUTH IS EASY, SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND, FOR IT IS FOR THE MEEK.  NOW PLEASE JUST CONSIDER THIS FLOOD FOR A MOMENT, IS ALL I ASK.

    GOD BLESS

    #341959
    2besee
    Participant

    Wakeup and Ed,

    “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit”

    Water is water baptism. It does not mean anything else.
    Listen.

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