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Quote (Resting @ April 26 2013,20:54) 2 besee, Please consider that Jesus was delivering people from the power of the devil after binding the strong man, well before Jesus went to the cross.
This is because Jesus bound the strongman in refusing his temptations, so that he was anointed by God to have power over all of the Fathers creation (including the devil)
Christs disciples also exercised this power over the strongman by proxy but when Jesus disciples were anointed at Pentecost then they too did the same as Jesus did.
Res.
Hi Resting,I don't mean to sound picky, but you seem to have the cart before the horse.
Meaning, the bible records Jesus being baptized with the “HolySpirit” first AND THEN Jesus
resisting satan. Your words sound like you have reversed this order. Can you please comment on this?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ April 26 2013,21:33) Quote (Resting @ April 26 2013,20:54) 2 besee, Please consider that Jesus was delivering people from the power of the devil after binding the strong man, well before Jesus went to the cross.
This is because Jesus bound the strongman in refusing his temptations, so that he was anointed by God to have power over all of the Fathers creation (including the devil)
Christs disciples also exercised this power over the strongman by proxy but when Jesus disciples were anointed at Pentecost then they too did the same as Jesus did.
Res.
Hi Resting,I don't mean to sound picky, but you seem to have the cart before the horse.
Meaning, the bible records Jesus being baptized with the “HolySpirit” first AND THEN Jesus
resisting satan. Your words sound like you have reversed this order. Can you please comment on this?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,I see what you mean, but Jesus was tempted as a man in many points without sin even before His baptism, at which time God said He was well pleased in Him.
After Christ was anointed, His temptations were in regard to Him using the authority of the Holy Spirit to do as He pleased for Himself, or not, for He was then the Anointed King of Israel.
Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
At the end of His anointing Christ was again tempted to save Himself from death by the Father giving Him a legion of angels if He so asked, as He went to the cross as a righteous man in His own faith, and not as one anointed.
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.Rev. ch 5.
Res.
Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2013,21:33) Quote (Resting @ April 26 2013,20:54) 2 besee, Please consider that Jesus was delivering people from the power of the devil after binding the strong man, well before Jesus went to the cross.
This is because Jesus bound the strongman in refusing his temptations, so that he was anointed by God to have power over all of the Fathers creation (including the devil)
Christs disciples also exercised this power over the strongman by proxy but when Jesus disciples were anointed at Pentecost then they too did the same as Jesus did.
Res.
Hi Resting,I don't mean to sound picky, but you seem to have the cart before the horse.
Meaning, the bible records Jesus being baptized with the “HolySpirit” first AND THEN Jesus
resisting satan. Your words sound like you have reversed this order. Can you please comment on this?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Jesus resisted the devil in the wildernes when he was fasting,
this was before his babtism.wakeup.
Quote (Resting @ April 26 2013,22:02) Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2013,21:33) Quote (Resting @ April 26 2013,20:54) 2 besee, Please consider that Jesus was delivering people from the power of the devil after binding the strong man, well before Jesus went to the cross.
This is because Jesus bound the strongman in refusing his temptations, so that he was anointed by God to have power over all of the Fathers creation (including the devil)
Christs disciples also exercised this power over the strongman by proxy but when Jesus disciples were anointed at Pentecost then they too did the same as Jesus did.
Res.
Hi Resting,I don't mean to sound picky, but you seem to have the cart before the horse.
Meaning, the bible records Jesus being baptized with the “HolySpirit” first AND THEN Jesus
resisting satan. Your words sound like you have reversed this order. Can you please comment on this?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,I see what you mean, but Jesus was tempted as a man in many points without sin even before His baptism, at which time God said He was well pleased in Him.
After Christ was anointed, His temptations were in regard to Him using the authority of the Holy Spirit to do as He pleased for Himself, or not, for He was then the Anointed King of Israel.
Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
At the end of His anointing Christ was again tempted to save Himself from death by the Father giving Him a legion of angels if He so asked, as He went to the cross as a righteous man in His own faith, and not as one anointed.
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.Rev. ch 5.
Res.
Hi Resting,OK, I see what you mean now, thanks for the explanation.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Resting @ April 26 2013,22:54)
2 besee,Please consider that Jesus was delivering people from the power of the devil after binding the strong man, well before Jesus went to the cross.
This is because Jesus bound the strongman in refusing his temptations, so that he was anointed by God to have power over all of the Fathers creation ( including the devil)
Christs disciples also exercised this power over the strongman by proxy but when Jesus disciples were anointed at Pentecost then they too did the same as Jesus did.
Jesus cross did not destroy satan at that time but will result in that after his use is over.
In the meantime we also exercise power over satan when we bind the strongman too.
It is the reliance on ones own self, and not on God, that causes us to be misled by satan and bound by him.
Let me remind you of that scripture as to what it actually says in Rev.ch 20.
Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having THE KEY of the bottomless pit and a GREAT CHAIN in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and SET A SEAL UPON HIM, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.This is not a description of the cross but is only because of it.
It is future.
Res.
Hi Res,
Thanks.
Please read this there are several pages.
I have only read a couple so far.
Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,06:05) Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2013,21:33) Quote (Resting @ April 26 2013,20:54) 2 besee, Please consider that Jesus was delivering people from the power of the devil after binding the strong man, well before Jesus went to the cross.
This is because Jesus bound the strongman in refusing his temptations, so that he was anointed by God to have power over all of the Fathers creation (including the devil)
Christs disciples also exercised this power over the strongman by proxy but when Jesus disciples were anointed at Pentecost then they too did the same as Jesus did.
Res.
Hi Resting,I don't mean to sound picky, but you seem to have the cart before the horse.
Meaning, the bible records Jesus being baptized with the “HolySpirit” first AND THEN Jesus
resisting satan. Your words sound like you have reversed this order. Can you please comment on this?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Jesus resisted the devil in the wildernes when he was fasting,
this was before his babtism.wakeup.
Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
Mat 4:3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.Quote (2besee @ April 27 2013,09:55) .
From the article bottom of first page.Quote Paul writes to similar effect in the Epistle to the Colossians, when he says that God “disarmed the principalities and powers and made a public example of them, triumphing over them in Christ’s cross” (Col. 2:15); and in the Epistle to the Hebrews there is, if anything, an even more explicit statement where the writer asserts that in the incarnation the Son of God partook of our human nature, “in order that through death he might render ineffective him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage” (Heb. 2:14f.). Heb 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren,There was no incarnation of a son of God to partake of human nature.
Jesus was born the seed of Abraham, a human nature.
Jesus was born a human with a human nature or He was not a man.
Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Heb 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.The word here is destroy, not the word bound, and was satan destroyed at the cross? No.
Quote There is also a passage in the Revelation which seems to have a bearing on this interpretation of the binding of Satan. It is generally agreed that this passage (ch. 12:1ff.) refers to the birth, death, and exaltation of Christ and to the overthrow of Satan which these events effected. John sees a woman in the pangs of childbirth and a dragon waiting to devour her child when it is born; she gives birth to a male child “who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron,” but the dragon fails in his design because “her child was caught up to God and to his throne”; there follows an account of war in heaven in which the dragon and his angels are defeated, “and the great dragon, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world, was thrown down to the earth,” and his angels with him; and this calls forth the joyful proclamation: “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come!” His mission to earth completed, the Redeemer of mankind assumes all authority as the ruler of “all the nations,” while Satan, “the deceiver of the whole world,” is overthrown and the peoples of the world are released from his domination. Or, in the words of Revelation 20:21., “the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan,” has been “seized” and “bound” and “thrown into the pit,” which has been “shut and sealed over him,” “so that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years are ended.” At the end of that period, we are advised, “he must be loosed for a little while.” The peoples of the world were not released from satans domination, and only the ones who came to belief IN Christ are, but they can still be buffeted by satan today.
If we read the text correctly we can see that satan is cast down from his heavenly influence upon the true church and through the conflict of michaels angels with the false prophets, all on the earth. (Jesus and His messengers fight against the dragon and his false prophets )
This is yet future.
The author is very loose in the use of words.
I do not agree with his view.
Res.
Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,17:46)
2Besee.1. I am wakeup,and j42 is a woman,we have the same
doctrine,excactly the same.I was talking post layout patterns.
One line begins with a small letter, and another with a capital.Journey: This is God's doing. Their sins have reached heaven, and God is punishing them.
Then God will send Christ, and Christ will come collect them (the ones chosen only, get this?, not all of them)
this includes the remnant that survived, and also the dead Israelites, chosen only)
This is why they will come with weeping and tears, for what they have just been through.
God will give them mercy also, just like he gave the gentiles mercy,
and God will take that veil off from their eyes, just like he did with the gentiles.
They are spared because of MERCY,
not of their works, because their works have been bad.
When the kingdom is set up, this is their opportunity to repent, to change,
but it will be easy for them,
for the enemy, Satan is locked up,
and they are being fed pure truth, straight from Christ.
and Christ will not loose one of them.
That kingdom area is going to be full of the holy spirit.Wakeup: You are showing your love for God with your lips only.
Inside; you dont really care about his words and prophecy.
You dont really believe that his word is potent.
You can brush it off with ease and not feel guilty.
You belong to those prophets and pastors that will be destroyed.(jer.25). Because the land is desolate.
Because God said it,and it will be done.
But that dont mean anything to you; just carry on believing
what you have been told.NO HARM WILL COME TO US.
all is fine,God is love,God loves me.I can fly ;I am spirit.
Maybe you have too much spirit; You will be charge for drunk driving.
If satan is locked up for a 1000yrs;then how can he manage 7 world empires? One after the other? How can he lead the 7th and the 8th empire?
Before christ was the Roman empire; and is today the end time Roman empire.
And you say satan is in prison?? He showed Jesus his empires. His 6000yr reign will end, when he is locked up.
The earth will be at peace for 1000yrs;the Lord is in charge.Hmmm….
I wonder now….Those posts were taken from here
Thanks Res I will get back to that later when I have more time, and also read the articles properly.
Quote (Resting @ April 27 2013,10:04) Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2013,06:05) Quote (Ed J @ April 26 2013,21:33) Quote (Resting @ April 26 2013,20:54) 2 besee, Please consider that Jesus was delivering people from the power of the devil after binding the strong man, well before Jesus went to the cross.
This is because Jesus bound the strongman in refusing his temptations, so that he was anointed by God to have power over all of the Fathers creation (including the devil)
Christs disciples also exercised this power over the strongman by proxy but when Jesus disciples were anointed at Pentecost then they too did the same as Jesus did.
Res.
Hi Resting,I don't mean to sound picky, but you seem to have the cart before the horse.
Meaning, the bible records Jesus being baptized with the “HolySpirit” first AND THEN Jesus
resisting satan. Your words sound like you have reversed this order. Can you please comment on this?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Jesus resisted the devil in the wildernes when he was fasting,
this was before his babtism.wakeup.
Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
Mat 4:3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
REsting.You are Right;
He went to the wilderness after he was babtised.wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ April 27 2013,10:35) Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,17:46)
2Besee.1. I am wakeup,and j42 is a woman,we have the same
doctrine,excactly the same.I was talking post layout patterns.
One line begins with a small letter, and another with a capital.Journey: This is God's doing. Their sins have reached heaven, and God is punishing them.
Then God will send Christ, and Christ will come collect them (the ones chosen only, get this?, not all of them)
this includes the remnant that survived, and also the dead Israelites, chosen only)
This is why they will come with weeping and tears, for what they have just been through.
God will give them mercy also, just like he gave the gentiles mercy,
and God will take that veil off from their eyes, just like he did with the gentiles.
They are spared because of MERCY,
not of their works, because their works have been bad.
When the kingdom is set up, this is their opportunity to repent, to change,
but it will be easy for them,
for the enemy, Satan is locked up,
and they are being fed pure truth, straight from Christ.
and Christ will not loose one of them.
That kingdom area is going to be full of the holy spirit.Wakeup: You are showing your love for God with your lips only.
Inside; you dont really care about his words and prophecy.
You dont really believe that his word is potent.
You can brush it off with ease and not feel guilty.
You belong to those prophets and pastors that will be destroyed.(jer.25). Because the land is desolate.
Because God said it,and it will be done.
But that dont mean anything to you; just carry on believing
what you have been told.NO HARM WILL COME TO US.
all is fine,God is love,God loves me.I can fly ;I am spirit.
Maybe you have too much spirit; You will be charge for drunk driving.
If satan is locked up for a 1000yrs;then how can he manage 7 world empires? One after the other? How can he lead the 7th and the 8th empire?
Before christ was the Roman empire; and is today the end time Roman empire.
And you say satan is in prison?? He showed Jesus his empires. His 6000yr reign will end, when he is locked up.
The earth will be at peace for 1000yrs;the Lord is in charge.Hmmm….
I wonder now….Those posts were taken from here
2BesseI already told you, we are simple people!
I shall watch my capitals more closely next time. Forgive me everyone!Actually, I have a very wide screen, so when I type it goes on for miles across the screen. Personally, I find I lose my spot when proof reading, so sometimes last minute before i hit send, I break it up and it looks like I'm starting a new sentence, but I'm not, just a new line so I can follow easy what I've written, and I do it in a rush.
Quote (Resting @ April 26 2013,14:28) Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,14:16) 2Besee. You are showing your love for God with your lips only.
Inside; you dont really care about his words and prophecy.
You dont really believe that his word is potent.
You can brush it off with ease and not feel guilty.
You belong to those prophets and pastors that will be destroyed.(jer.25). Because the land is desolate.Because God said it,and it will be done.
But that dont mean anything to you; just carry on believing
what you have been told.NO HARM WILL COME TO US.
all is fine,God is love,God loves me.I can fly ;I am spirit.
Maybe you have too much spirit; You will be charge for drunk driving.If satan is locked up for a 1000yrs;then how can he manage 7 world empires? One after the other? How can he lead the 7th and the 8th empire?
Before christ was the Roman empire; and is today the end time Roman empire.
And you say satan is in prison?? He showed Jesus his empires. His 6000yr reign will end, when he is locked up.
The earth will be at peace for 1000yrs;the Lord is in charge.wakeup.
It is better to be filled with the joy of salvation as a babe who is ignorant of their future to some extent, than be a judge and jury of such as you choose to be.Be careful lest you offend her Lord.
Mat 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Mat 18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
Mat 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mat 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
Resting,We can not judge anyone. I cannot say you are going to hell, or even say you are going to heaven. That is what judging really is, and not for me or anyone to decide what your outcome will be at the 2nd coming.. I don't even say I am saved, because although I want that, in the end it is up to Christ to decide whether he will accept me or not.
It's the word that does the judging. We can only confirm the word spoken. We, all of us are witnesses to the Word of God. If we see something contrary to the Word spoken, then we are supposed to speak up and correct,…. in the hope that our brother will consider and change his ways or his views for the sake of his soul which is so precious. It is not a light matter.
Quote (journey42 @ April 27 2013,14:13) Quote (2besee @ April 27 2013,10:35) Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,17:46)
2Besee.1. I am wakeup,and j42 is a woman,we have the same
doctrine,excactly the same.I was talking post layout patterns.
One line begins with a small letter, and another with a capital.Journey: This is God's doing. Their sins have reached heaven, and God is punishing them.
Then God will send Christ, and Christ will come collect them (the ones chosen only, get this?, not all of them)
this includes the remnant that survived, and also the dead Israelites, chosen only)
This is why they will come with weeping and tears, for what they have just been through.
God will give them mercy also, just like he gave the gentiles mercy,
and God will take that veil off from their eyes, just like he did with the gentiles.
They are spared because of MERCY,
not of their works, because their works have been bad.
When the kingdom is set up, this is their opportunity to repent, to change,
but it will be easy for them,
for the enemy, Satan is locked up,
and they are being fed pure truth, straight from Christ.
and Christ will not loose one of them.
That kingdom area is going to be full of the holy spirit.Wakeup: You are showing your love for God with your lips only.
Inside; you dont really care about his words and prophecy.
You dont really believe that his word is potent.
You can brush it off with ease and not feel guilty.
You belong to those prophets and pastors that will be destroyed.(jer.25). Because the land is desolate.
Because God said it,and it will be done.
But that dont mean anything to you; just carry on believing
what you have been told.NO HARM WILL COME TO US.
all is fine,God is love,God loves me.I can fly ;I am spirit.
Maybe you have too much spirit; You will be charge for drunk driving.
If satan is locked up for a 1000yrs;then how can he manage 7 world empires? One after the other? How can he lead the 7th and the 8th empire?
Before christ was the Roman empire; and is today the end time Roman empire.
And you say satan is in prison?? He showed Jesus his empires. His 6000yr reign will end, when he is locked up.
The earth will be at peace for 1000yrs;the Lord is in charge.Hmmm….
I wonder now….Those posts were taken from here
2BesseI already told you, we are simple people!
I shall watch my capitals more closely next time. Forgive me everyone!Actually, I have a very wide screen, so when I type it goes on for miles across the screen. Personally, I find I lose my spot when proof reading, so sometimes last minute before i hit send, I break it up and it looks like I'm starting a new sentence, but I'm not, just a new line so I can follow easy what I've written, and I do it in a rush.
Info:
Proxy hiders make it possible to be logged into a forum as two different usernames.
Multiple online personalities, quite a thing of today!
Quote (journey42 @ April 27 2013,15:16) Resting, We can not judge anyone. I cannot say you are going to hell, or even say you are going to heaven. That is what judging really is, and not for me or anyone to decide what your outcome will be at the 2nd coming.. I don't even say I am saved, because although I want that, in the end it is up to Christ to decide whether he will accept me or not.
It's the word that does the judging. We can only confirm the word spoken. We, all of us are witnesses to the Word of God. If we see something contrary to the Word spoken, then we are supposed to speak up and correct,…. in the hope that our brother will consider and change his ways or his views for the sake of his soul which is so precious. It is not a light matter.
You say that now Journey but yesterday you said:Quote you “You belong to those prophets and pastors that will be destroyed.(jer.25). Because the land is desolate.” Unquote.
Who you were saying that to, I do not know, because I am not a prophet nor have I ever claimed to be. But I do know that in the past you have said that Adventists etc (basically all of the churches) will be going to hell. That is my word though, I have no idea where the posts are.
That is wrong Journey. God has had people in the churches from the beginning right through to today. Do you agree now?
Quote (2besee @ April 27 2013,14:27) Quote (journey42 @ April 27 2013,14:13) Quote (2besee @ April 27 2013,10:35) Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,17:46)
2Besee.1. I am wakeup,and j42 is a woman,we have the same
doctrine,excactly the same.I was talking post layout patterns.
One line begins with a small letter, and another with a capital.Journey: This is God's doing. Their sins have reached heaven, and God is punishing them.
Then God will send Christ, and Christ will come collect them (the ones chosen only, get this?, not all of them)
this includes the remnant that survived, and also the dead Israelites, chosen only)
This is why they will come with weeping and tears, for what they have just been through.
God will give them mercy also, just like he gave the gentiles mercy,
and God will take that veil off from their eyes, just like he did with the gentiles.
They are spared because of MERCY,
not of their works, because their works have been bad.
When the kingdom is set up, this is their opportunity to repent, to change,
but it will be easy for them,
for the enemy, Satan is locked up,
and they are being fed pure truth, straight from Christ.
and Christ will not loose one of them.
That kingdom area is going to be full of the holy spirit.Wakeup: You are showing your love for God with your lips only.
Inside; you dont really care about his words and prophecy.
You dont really believe that his word is potent.
You can brush it off with ease and not feel guilty.
You belong to those prophets and pastors that will be destroyed.(jer.25). Because the land is desolate.
Because God said it,and it will be done.
But that dont mean anything to you; just carry on believing
what you have been told.NO HARM WILL COME TO US.
all is fine,God is love,God loves me.I can fly ;I am spirit.
Maybe you have too much spirit; You will be charge for drunk driving.
If satan is locked up for a 1000yrs;then how can he manage 7 world empires? One after the other? How can he lead the 7th and the 8th empire?
Before christ was the Roman empire; and is today the end time Roman empire.
And you say satan is in prison?? He showed Jesus his empires. His 6000yr reign will end, when he is locked up.
The earth will be at peace for 1000yrs;the Lord is in charge.Hmmm….
I wonder now….Those posts were taken from here
2BesseI already told you, we are simple people!
I shall watch my capitals more closely next time. Forgive me everyone!Actually, I have a very wide screen, so when I type it goes on for miles across the screen. Personally, I find I lose my spot when proof reading, so sometimes last minute before i hit send, I break it up and it looks like I'm starting a new sentence, but I'm not, just a new line so I can follow easy what I've written, and I do it in a rush.
Info:
Proxy hiders make it possible to be logged into a forum as two different usernames.
Multiple online personalities, quite a thing of today!
Yes it is possible, if one wanted to go through that much trouble. There are three of us that agree. Not one pretending to be 2 or three.Quote (2besee @ April 27 2013,14:57) Quote (journey42 @ April 27 2013,15:16) Resting, We can not judge anyone. I cannot say you are going to hell, or even say you are going to heaven. That is what judging really is, and not for me or anyone to decide what your outcome will be at the 2nd coming.. I don't even say I am saved, because although I want that, in the end it is up to Christ to decide whether he will accept me or not.
It's the word that does the judging. We can only confirm the word spoken. We, all of us are witnesses to the Word of God. If we see something contrary to the Word spoken, then we are supposed to speak up and correct,…. in the hope that our brother will consider and change his ways or his views for the sake of his soul which is so precious. It is not a light matter.
You say that now Journey but yesterday you said:Quote you “You belong to those prophets and pastors that will be destroyed.(jer.25). Because the land is desolate.” Unquote.
Who you were saying that to, I do not know, because I am not a prophet nor have I ever claimed to be. But I do know that in the past you have said that Adventists etc (basically all of the churches) will be going to hell. That is my word though, I have no idea where the posts are.
That is wrong Journey. God has had people in the churches from the beginning right through to today. Do you agree now?
It wasn't me that said that. It was wakeup. You would have to ask him. If you can get something so simple like that wrong, then what about other things of more importance?I never said the adventist were going to hell as far as I can remember, but that they were leading people to hell. Yes I said that. That was concerning the mark of the beast. We are warned not to take it, and they are encouraging people to take it. Where's that leading them to then? heaven?
God's people are spread out everywhere. Where-ever they may be, they are made up of true believers. This is the true church. Those feeding on the flesh of Christ, united in spirit, and not necessarily all from the same church.
In the early churches, they met in houses. Not like they are today. Government funded, full of merchandise, money passing through hands, profits being made, and the building built on on prime land on the highest hill.
I am not against the people. We are here to warn the people, that your leaders have put you to sleep, so wake up and start searching the scriptures for yourself for God is going to destroy all their pastures. Does this mean anything to you? Is God happy with the churches?
Quote (journey42 @ April 27 2013,17:22) It wasn't me that said that. It was wakeup. You would have to ask him. If you can get something so simple like that wrong…. No, I knew what I was doing.
I knew that Wakeup said that.Quote God's people are spread out everywhere. Where-ever they may be Does this include an elderly lady who goes to the Catholic Church and does not follow your doctrines. IYO could she be a born again child of God's, who will go to Heaven, even if she never leaves that church and never follows your doctrine, Yes or No?
Quote (2besee @ April 27 2013,14:57) Quote (journey42 @ April 27 2013,15:16) Resting, We can not judge anyone. I cannot say you are going to hell, or even say you are going to heaven. That is what judging really is, and not for me or anyone to decide what your outcome will be at the 2nd coming.. I don't even say I am saved, because although I want that, in the end it is up to Christ to decide whether he will accept me or not.
It's the word that does the judging. We can only confirm the word spoken. We, all of us are witnesses to the Word of God. If we see something contrary to the Word spoken, then we are supposed to speak up and correct,…. in the hope that our brother will consider and change his ways or his views for the sake of his soul which is so precious. It is not a light matter.
You say that now Journey but yesterday you said:Quote you “You belong to those prophets and pastors that will be destroyed.(jer.25). Because the land is desolate.” Unquote.
Who you were saying that to, I do not know, because I am not a prophet nor have I ever claimed to be. But I do know that in the past you have said that Adventists etc (basically all of the churches) will be going to hell. That is my word though, I have no idea where the posts are.
That is wrong Journey. God has had people in the churches from the beginning right through to today. Do you agree now?
Hi 2Besee.It was me ;wakeup that said that.
God is against the shepherds and the pastors.
He did not say prophets.
You need to take gods prophesies seriously,
he does not speak idle talk.**Jeremiah 23:1 Woe be unto the **pastors** that destroy and **scatter** the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 23:2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the **pastors** that feed my people; Ye have **scattered** my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 23:3 And **I will** gather the **remnant** of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will **bring them again** to their folds; and they shall be *fruitful* and increase.
Jeremiah 23:4 And **I will** set up **shepherds** over them which shall *feed* them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
wakeup.
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