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  • #342674
    journey42
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    Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,17:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,17:30)
    Hi Wakeup,

    “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid;
     and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

     And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion
     shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the
     weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy
     in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.” (Isaiah 11:6-9)

          Yea, I know, this is yet another thing that you push off into the future
          believing it's meaning is physical rather than understanding it's Spiritual.

    This is all spiritual talk, the only physical thing about this is the scenario itself that God uses to convey truth with.
    And in case you choose to disagree, consider Churches who pick up snakes in their services based on the following…

       “They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;” (Mark 16:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    And verse 10 refers to Jesus Christ.

    “And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign
     of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.” (Isa 11:10)


    Ed,

    Of course the root of Jesse will be there. He is the one coming to collect them. This is the REST PERIOD. The enemy Satan locked away. Everybody RESTS from the enemy for a thousand years.
    Truth starts coming out of Zion now, no confusion.
    The gentiles are the peoples of the nations that survived. The ones living outside of Jerusalem. The ones that will be taught by the Jews who are taught by Christ.

    Christ is standing for an ensign of the Jews now.
    The tables are turned.
    Jerusalem – City of Peace.

    #342675
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ April 23 2013,18:16)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,17:30)
    Hi Wakeup,

    “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid;
     and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

     And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion
     shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the
     weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy
     in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.” (Isaiah 11:6-9)

          Yea, I know, this is yet another thing that you push off into the future
          believing it's meaning is physical rather than understanding it's Spiritual.

    This is all spiritual talk, the only physical thing about this is the scenario itself that God uses to convey truth with.
    And in case you choose to disagree, consider Churches who pick up snakes in their services based on the following…

       “They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;” (Mark 16:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    This is a prophesy Ed.  Not symbolical.
    If you can't believe in the power of his words alone, then how are you going to believe the marvelous things he is going to do?


    Animal farm, huh?

    #342676
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ April 23 2013,18:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,17:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,17:30)
    Hi Wakeup,

    “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid;
     and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

     And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion
     shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the
     weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy
     in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.” (Isaiah 11:6-9)

          Yea, I know, this is yet another thing that you push off into the future
          believing it's meaning is physical rather than understanding it's Spiritual.

    This is all spiritual talk, the only physical thing about this is the scenario itself that God uses to convey truth with.
    And in case you choose to disagree, consider Churches who pick up snakes in their services based on the following…

       “They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;” (Mark 16:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    And verse 10 refers to Jesus Christ.

    “And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign
     of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.” (Isa 11:10)


    Ed,

    Of course the root of Jesse will be there.  He is the one coming to collect them.  This is the REST PERIOD.  The enemy Satan locked away.  Everybody RESTS from the enemy for a thousand years.  
    Truth starts coming out of Zion now, no confusion.
    The gentiles are the peoples of the nations that survived.  The ones living outside of Jerusalem.  The ones that will be taught by the Jews who are taught by Christ.

    Christ is standing for an ensign of the Jews now.
    The tables are turned.
    Jerusalem – City of Peace.


    “And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign
    of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.” (Isa 11:10)
    How can you push this verse off into the future?  …do you not believe that this is fulfilled?

    #342677
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,17:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 23 2013,16:25)
    And Isaiah 65:19–25?


    Isaiah 65:19-24 cannot be easily misunderstood, because it's meaning is BOTH physical AND Spiritual.
    But verse 25 presents the same problem that I have already explained to you. (go back and reread it)


    EDJ.

    It is so easy to dismiss scripture that you can not understand. Just explain it as spiritual.
    This happens again and again.Just cast it in the spiritual box,or the symbolical box,and all is exlplained.
    You dont have any scripture to prove that it is spiritual,and all that is past. Past when? as far as I know the lion ate straw
    in the garden of eden,and ate flesh up to today.

    Zechariah 8:3 Thus saith the LORD; I am *RETURNED* unto Zion, and *WILL DWELL* in the *MIDS OF JERUSALEM*: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain.

    Zechariah 8:4 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; There shall yet old men and old women dwell in the streets of Jerusalem, and every man with his staff in his hand for very age.

    Zechariah 8:5 And the streets of the city shall be full of boys and girls playing in the streets thereof.

    Zechariah 8:6 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If it be marvellous in the eyes of the *REMNANT* of this people in these days, should it also be marvellous in mine eyes? saith the LORD of hosts.

    Zechariah 8:7 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will save my people FROM THE EAST COUNTRY, and from the *WEST COUNTRY*;

    Zechariah 8:8 And I will bring them, *AND THEY SHALL DWELL IN THE MIDS OF JERUSALEM*: and they *SHALL* be my people, and *I WILL* be their God, *IN TRUTH* and in righteousness.

    Zechariah 8:9 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Let your hands be strong, ye *THAT HEAR* in these days these words by the mouth of the prophets, which were in the day that the foundation of the house of the LORD of hosts was laid, that the temple might be built.

    Zechariah 8:10 For before these days there was no hire for man, nor any hire for beast; neither was there any peace to him that went out or came in because of the affliction: for I set all men every one against his neighbour.

    Zechariah 8:11 *BUT NOW* I will not be unto the residue of this people as in the former days, saith the LORD of hosts.

    Zechariah 8:12 For the seed shall be prosperous; the vine shall give her fruit, and the ground shall give her increase, and the heavens shall give their dew; and I will cause *THE REMNANT OF THIS PEOPLE* to possess all these things.

    Zechariah 8:13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and *YE SHALLL BE A BLESSING*: fear not, but let your hands be strong.

    wakeup.

    #342678
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 23 2013,18:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,03:43)
    You need to pay attention to what I actually do say!
    Instead you guys seem to invent words that were never said.


    EDJ.

    …and all that is past.

    wakeup.


    There you go again

    #342679
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Do you have any questions now, or are you going to just complain
    that I don't go for your futuristic private interpretation of Prophecy?
    Ask “specific” questions, and you may get the information you need.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #342680
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    I addressed your request for an explanation (of those verses) by narrowing the field
    (with my answer) in an attempt to help steer you into asking “specific questions”.

    But you instead try to broaden the scope in an attempt to claim
    that I have given you an incorrect answer. That is why I questioned
    your request for an explanation, because YOU really don't one; DO YOU?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #342681
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 23 2013,18:31)
    EDJ.

    Zechariah 8:3   Thus saith the LORD; I am *RETURNED* unto Zion, and *WILL DWELL* in the *MIDS OF JERUSALEM*: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain.

     Zechariah 8:4   Thus saith the LORD of hosts; There shall yet old men and old women dwell in the streets of Jerusalem, and every man with his staff in his hand for very age.

     Zechariah 8:5   And the streets of the city shall be full of boys and girls playing in the streets thereof.

     Zechariah 8:6   Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If it be marvellous in the eyes of the *REMNANT* of this people in these days, should it also be marvellous in mine eyes? saith the LORD of hosts.

     Zechariah 8:7   Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will save my people FROM THE EAST COUNTRY, and from the *WEST COUNTRY*;

     Zechariah 8:8   And I will bring them, *AND THEY SHALL DWELL IN THE MIDS OF JERUSALEM*: and they *SHALL* be my people, and *I WILL* be their God, *IN TRUTH* and in righteousness.

     Zechariah 8:9   Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Let your hands be strong, ye *THAT HEAR* in these days these words by the mouth of the prophets, which were in the day that the foundation of the house of the LORD of hosts was laid, that the temple might be built.

     Zechariah 8:10   For before these days there was no hire for man, nor any hire for beast; neither was there any peace to him that went out or came in because of the affliction: for I set all men every one against his neighbour.

     Zechariah 8:11   *BUT NOW* I will not be unto the residue of this people as in the former days, saith the LORD of hosts.

     Zechariah 8:12   For the seed shall be prosperous; the vine shall give her fruit, and the ground shall give her increase, and the heavens shall give their dew; and I will cause *THE REMNANT OF THIS PEOPLE* to possess all these things.

     Zechariah 8:13   And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and *YE SHALLL BE A BLESSING*: fear not, but let your hands be strong.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Why are you posting Zech 8:3-13?   …what are you trying to tell me?   …please just speak plainly; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #342682
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ April 22 2013,23:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,17:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,17:30)
    Hi Wakeup,

    “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid;
     and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

     And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion
     shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the
     weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy
     in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.” (Isaiah 11:6-9)

          Yea, I know, this is yet another thing that you push off into the future
          believing it's meaning is physical rather than understanding it's Spiritual.

    This is all spiritual talk, the only physical thing about this is the scenario itself that God uses to convey truth with.
    And in case you choose to disagree, consider Churches who pick up snakes in their services based on the following…

       “They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;” (Mark 16:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    And verse 10 refers to Jesus Christ.

    “And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign
     of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.” (Isa 11:10)


    Ed,

    Of course the root of Jesse will be there.  He is the one coming to collect them.  This is the REST PERIOD.  The enemy Satan locked away.  Everybody RESTS from the enemy for a thousand years.  
    Truth starts coming out of Zion now, no confusion.
    The gentiles are the peoples of the nations that survived.  The ones living outside of Jerusalem.  The ones that will be taught by the Jews who are taught by Christ.

    Christ is standing for an ensign of the Jews now.
    The tables are turned.
    Jerusalem – City of Peace.


    Hi J42,

    (Quote)
    Of course the root of Jesse will be there.  He is the one coming to collect them.  This is the REST PERIOD.  The enemy Satan locked away.  Everybody RESTS from the enemy for a thousand years.

    Rev.5:3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the book or to look into it. 4Then I began to weep greatly because no one was found worthy to open the book or to look into it; 5and one of the elders said to me, “Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals.”

    Do you think he overcame Death?

    Peace sister.

    #342683
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 23 2013,13:03)

    Quote (Resting @ April 23 2013,09:43)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 22 2013,04:35)

    Quote

    He is spirit and his flesh is also spirit,not flesh and bone.

    wakeup.


    There is your problem.

    Jesus was resurrected flesh and bone.

    Luk 24:36  And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
    Luk 24:37  But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
    Luk 24:38  And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
    Luk 24:39  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
    Luk 24:40  And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
    Luk 24:41  And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
    Luk 24:42  And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
    Luk 24:43  And he took it, and did eat before them.
    Luk 24:44  And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

    OT Jews will not be raised in mortal flesh either.

    No NT verses show that at all.

    That strange flesh doctrine came from Russell and is propagated by Dawn bible students who deny the gifts of Christ to His Church for today.

    Res.


    Resting.

    Do you believe that angels are also flesh and bone?

    Regarding Israel:

    How would you explain Isaiah 11:6–10?
    And Isaiah 65:19–25?
    Please explain, and dont ignore this question like the others
    have done.

    wakeup.


    Angels are not flesh and bone as Christ said He has.

    Jesus is a resurrected man, not a spirit.

    All of the saints will be like him in the resurrection.

    They are not all made into spirit.

    The verse which says —

    1Co 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
    1Co 15:45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
    1Co 15:46  Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
    1Co 15:47  The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
    1Co 15:48  As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
    1Co 15:49  And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

    “The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.”

    Think about it.

    Was Adam made only a living soul? Did he not have a body of flesh?

    Yes he did, and so did/does He who is made a quickening spirit.

    “There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body”

    Adam had a natural body, so do we. Christ was born the second Adam , that is He also had a natural body.

    Now Christ is raised from the dead in a spiritual body.

    Jesus Christ is not a spirit for he consists of immortalised flesh and bone, and He said so.

    The way people believe this is pivotal to being true spiritual or being spiritualist.

    As for the other questions you need to read my former posts.

    There is a millennium (a term of convenience).

    It is not actually one thousand years long but is many years in length.

    The word thousand denotes the Kingdom of God.

    The 144 thousand for example describes the Kings and Priests of the Kingdom of God, the full number is not 144000 of them.

    Res.

    #342684
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ April 23 2013,15:42)

    journey42,April wrote:


    Quote

    Quote
    OT Jews will not be raised in mortal flesh either.

    For all that are reading this topic, it is nothing new to us for all have rejected these scriptures.
    Not one single person has  ever said, yes I can see that.  
    If you think that we have interpreted the scriptures by our own imaginations, then one must stop and think about this;

    There is a millennium to come.  
    A thousand years of rest.
    Christ and his saints will be ruling as kings and priests,
    ruling over who? (this should raise some curiosity)

    The scriptures show us how Israel rejected Christ,
    So we are shown that because they rejected their Messiah, and did not recognise him as the one they were expecting, salvation is now come to the gentiles who believe.
    but Romans tells us that God has not forgotten Israel, that he has a remnant according to the election.
    Romans tells us that Israel are the natural branches, but were cut off;
    so that the wild branches can be grafted in.  We gentiles are the wild branches.
    but then God will graft back the natural branches,
    so this means that Israel will come back to God.
    We also know that they have not come back to God now,
    and the OT gives us more details of when this will happen.
    This will happen when Christ returns.
    God said that he has reserved a remnant from every generation of Israel.  He calls it the election of grace.
    Grace now goes back to them also.
    So when he gives grace to them, how is he going to do it?
    Ezekiel tells us plainly how.
    The dead ones will be brought out of their graves and will have FLESH put on them.  Then God will breath the spirit of life back into them and they will stand up and live again.
    They will be brought back into the kingdom on earth in Jerusalem and will be taught.
    Is this too hard for God?
    No, but to some it's too hard to imagine.  
    Because you were not taught this by your pastors with high degree's that they received from the world by the way, that this news is strange now?  Something you never heard before.  You decide to look into it and google it, and then you find that this interpretation has this name and that name attached to it.  You say we belong to this group or that group?  Give us a break.
    We keep warning you to stay away from religion, and to search for yourselves.  If we are part of any religion then our testimony has been a big fat lie.  You can see we are not learned people, but simple, and it's not about us.  Your doing what we are telling you not to do.  Don't trust men, just go to those scriptures yourself and ask yourself lots and lots of questions.  Have some curiosity and think for yourselves.  If you are genuine and put the truth first, then God will see this, and he will give you the holy spirit to guide you so that you understand what he is showing.

    God says in OT that there will be people who will live under Christ, and a child will live a ripe old age to 100.  So people will be multiplying there.  Flesh multiplies, not spirit.  There will be the lion eating straw, and the wolf and the lamb will lie together in peace.  Nothing will hurt nor destroy in this kingdom that is coming.  He also said that Israel will be teaching the nations and that many will say to an Israelite, can I come with you.
    If this doesn't raise any curiosity, then you might as well close the book and go back to sleep.  Those church lullabies should help rock you to sleep.

    It's going to be an amazing time.  Many of you know nothing about this kingdom.  We are here to show you that God is revealing it to us in the scriptures.  The doctrine of truth should have no holes in it.  From beginning to end you have to know the whole picture.  This is what God wants, for us to search and he will give a little help.  We should be witnessing for the truth and not against it.  These events are coming soon.  We will see it with our own eyes.  We were warned not to boast against the natural branches, or else we might not be spared,  
    So put two and two together, and when you are finished drinking your bottle of milk, move on to a bit of solids,
    for you should not be babies still in day care,
    or your growth will be stunted.

    Remember God is not some sort of Santa Clause bringing lots of pressies.  gimme gimme gimme.  Go for truth.
    You want the spiritual gifts and even believe you have them, but don't want to do the hard work.  Your worship is in vain.  Pure vanity.  You are only glorifying yourself.  Remember Satan can perform miracles also.  Get out of prison, because the devil wants you there.  Real power comes with truth.  This will save you.  The truth, the flesh of Christ.


    Eze 37:11  Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
    Eze 37:12  Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
    Eze 37:13  And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
    Eze 37:14  And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

    Read  Rev.ch 14 rev.ch 7 Rev.ch 21. Isaiah ch 49.

    The Bride, Heavenly Zion, has mortal children for the millennium but the Heavenly Zion are the people of the resurrection of Ez ch 37.

    You can get it together right if you read and consider these chapters.

    There is no resurrection of Israel of the flesh who had died back into flesh bodies then requiring a further death and resurrection to become immortal.

    Res.

    #342686
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Resting.

    Those mortal children(flesh) in the millenium
    consist of jews only, brought back to life.(Ez.37).

    The resurrected saints are the spirit children,they will teach the jews.

    The remnant of the gentiles will live outside the kingdom,and will be taught by the jews.
    And many will come to the Lord.(satan is still in his prison).

    wakeup.

    #342699
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 23 2013,21:30)

       (1)The resurrected saints are the spirit children, (2)they will teach the jews.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Where are your bible references for each of these “two” points?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #342700
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2013,03:35)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 23 2013,21:30)

       (1)The resurrected saints are the spirit children, (2)they will teach the jews.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Where are your bible references for each of these “two” points?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be *PRIESTS* of God and of Christ, and shall *REIGN* with him a thousand years.

    wakeup.

    #342703
    Resting
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 23 2013,21:30)
    Resting.

    Those mortal children(flesh) in the millenium
    consist of jews only, brought back to life.(Ez.37).

    The resurrected saints are the spirit children,they will teach the jews.

    The remnant of the gentiles will live outside the kingdom,and will be taught by the jews.
    And many will come to the Lord.(satan is still in his prison).

    wakeup.


    The text of Ez 37 shows the resurrection of believers not of unbelievers.

    They are Zion.

    The children of Zion are the mortal believers, children given to the saints in the 3.5 years of Rev.

    Looks like you are not allowed to see Gods plan.

    Res.

    #342707
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 24 2013,03:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2013,03:35)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 23 2013,21:30)

       (1)The resurrected saints are the spirit children, (2)they will teach the jews.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Where are your bible references for each of these “two” points?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    Revelation 20:6   Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be *PRIESTS* of God and of Christ, and shall *REIGN* with him a thousand years.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    That verse doesn't say what you are claiming?  ???

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #342710
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2013,09:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 24 2013,03:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2013,03:35)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 23 2013,21:30)

       (1)The resurrected saints are the spirit children, (2)they will teach the jews.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Where are your bible references for each of these “two” points?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    Revelation 20:6   Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be *PRIESTS* of God and of Christ, and shall *REIGN* with him a thousand years.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    That verse doesn't say what you are claiming?  ???

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Wakeup,

    Perhaps you don't understand what I mean? I will give you an example to illustrate what I mean…
    Psalm 83:18 says:  “That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

    Now what you are doing is comparable to saying about this about that verse…

    There are others who are very high, but Jehovah is even more high than all of the others who are very high.
    Psalm 83:18 DOES NOT SAY THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE VERY HIGH. (this is comparable to exactly what you are doing)
    Claiming a verse is saying what it REALLY doesn't not say. But you will likely not understand, or vehemently deny my comparison.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #342736
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2013,10:16)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2013,09:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 24 2013,03:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2013,03:35)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 23 2013,21:30)

       (1)The resurrected saints are the spirit children, (2)they will teach the jews.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Where are your bible references for each of these “two” points?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    Revelation 20:6   Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be *PRIESTS* of God and of Christ, and shall *REIGN* with him a thousand years.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    That verse doesn't say what you are claiming?  ???

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Wakeup,

    Perhaps you don't understand what I mean? I will give you an example to illustrate what I mean…
    Psalm 83:18 says:  “That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

    Now what you are doing is comparable to saying about this about that verse…

    There are others who are very high, but Jehovah is even more high than all of the others who are very high.
    Psalm 83:18 DOES NOT SAY THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE VERY HIGH. (this is comparable to exactly what you are doing)
    Claiming a verse is saying what it REALLY doesn't not say. But you will likely not understand, or vehemently deny my comparison.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    1.Who will the saints rule over?
    Other saints?

    2.Who will the saints teach, and preach to, as priests?
    Other saints? Teach the angels perhaps?

    wakeup.

    #342738
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Resting @ April 24 2013,07:14)

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 23 2013,21:30)
    Resting.

    Those mortal children(flesh) in the millenium
    consist of jews only, brought back to life.(Ez.37).

    The resurrected saints are the spirit children,they will teach the jews.

    The remnant of the gentiles will live outside the kingdom,and will be taught by the jews.
    And many will come to the Lord.(satan is still in his prison).

    wakeup.


    The text of Ez 37 shows the resurrection of believers not of unbelievers.

    They are Zion.

    The children of Zion are the mortal believers, children given to the saints in the 3.5 years of Rev.

    Looks like you are not allowed to see Gods plan.

    Res.


    Resting.

    Ez.37. Is about israel brought back to life
    in the flesh according to choice. They are the remnant of the jews. They will be the population in the 1000yr kingdom.
    Only then, will they be taught Christ,not before.

    All must go through Christ.They will go through it with flying colours,because knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth.

    True christians are dwelling in Zion the City of God,where is peace and God fearing.(spiritual city).

    The rest are dwelling in babylon,the city of satan where there is war and strife; (spiritual city).

    Resting;are you a pastor of some kind? just a question.

    wakeup.

    #342747
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 24 2013,13:31)
    EDJ.

    1.Who will the saints rule over?
    Other saints?

    2.Who will the saints teach, and preach to, as priests?
    Other saints? Teach the angels perhaps?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1. The saints “are” ruling and reigning on the Earth.
    2. The saints “are” teaching and Preaching as Priests.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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