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- March 29, 2013 at 11:44 am#340023journey42Participant
I can imagine the murmurings. Here she goes again. Talking about the same thing, over and over and over! The millennium, the Israelites, all those scriptures from the OT. So much to read. Will someone please shut her up!
Well yes I am going to talk about it again. Why? because YOU DON'T KNOW THIS!. Did the same church that baptised you in water explain all this to you? Were you warned that if you did hear this to pay no attention because these people who believe this are labelled such and such, and belong to such and such group or cult? Be honest, I know they did, and you believe them. They try to keep this from you despite all the evidence and proof. They cannot understand it themselves because this knowledge is blocked from them. God made it happen this way. He sees things we don't, and he's showing us things he knows.But you, you have a duty to fulfill, and that is to seek the scriptures for yourselves with a hungry heart and not to rely on others who say what is true and what is not. Be your own judge. We are in the last days now and the devil is working overtime to keep the truth from you. Go straight to the scriptures yourself. This is our weapon. The people who believe this are the people who are searching the scriptures (all of them) and found out that this truth is hidden from the christian world. Does it matter? Absolutely. We are witnesses that everything that comes out of God's mouth is the truth. There can be no contractions, not one. We don't have a crystal ball, but we have something better…THE WORD OF GOD.
THE SETTING UP OF THE KINGDOM
AT THE START OF THE MILLENNIUMFuture Event to come.
p.s, not fulfilledYou will not find this information in Rev. God did not reveal these details there. He revealed them through the prophet Ezekiel. Seek and ye shall find.
Ezekiel 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their very own land. (You may say, yes, this was already fulfilled in 1948, but read on)
Ezekiel 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all. (You may say, yes they are one nation now, and Israel were reformed in 1948….but it says ONE KING shall be king to them ALL. This is Christ. Christ is NOT their king currently, nor has he ever been king to them. They rejected him to this day. We all know this….so think)
Ezekiel 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves anymore with their idols, (has this been fulfilled? No) nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; (God calls them Sodom and Egypt now Rev 11:8) but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. (Listen to what God is telling us….I will CLEANSE THEM. Who? Israel. Not talking about gentiles here, but Israel. Physical Israel. Not spiritual Israelites, but physical ISRAEL.)
Ezekiel 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them, (Who's David?) and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgements, and observe my statutes, and do them. Is this fulfilled? No, so it's future
Ezekiel 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant (Israel), wherein, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince forever. (So who's David, their King or their Prince?)
Ezekiel 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. (Can you see how much God loves them also? God is showing us.)Ezekiel 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them, yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Ezekiel 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore. (I am just showing you these scriptures. They really need no interpretation. There's no code talk here or symbolism. It's pretty clear and straight forward)
Let's not be like the heathen that only believe this when they see it with their own eyes. Let's believe what God is revealing to us in advance, so we can also look forward to this undeserved mercy God will pour out on them also, just like he did with us.
to be continued.
March 29, 2013 at 7:50 pm#340050abeParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Mar. 29 2013,03:44) I can imagine the murmurings. Here she goes again. Talking about the same thing, over and over and over! The millennium, the Israelites, all those scriptures from the OT. So much to read. Will someone please shut her up!
Well yes I am going to talk about it again. Why? because YOU DON'T KNOW THIS!. Did the same church that baptised you in water explain all this to you? Were you warned that if you did hear this to pay no attention because these people who believe this are labelled such and such, and belong to such and such group or cult? Be honest, I know they did, and you believe them. They try to keep this from you despite all the evidence and proof. They cannot understand it themselves because this knowledge is blocked from them. God made it happen this way. He sees things we don't, and he's showing us things he knows.But you, you have a duty to fulfill, and that is to seek the scriptures for yourselves with a hungry heart and not to rely on others who say what is true and what is not. Be your own judge. We are in the last days now and the devil is working overtime to keep the truth from you. Go straight to the scriptures yourself. This is our weapon. The people who believe this are the people who are searching the scriptures (all of them) and found out that this truth is hidden from the christian world. Does it matter? Absolutely. We are witnesses that everything that comes out of God's mouth is the truth. There can be no contractions, not one. We don't have a crystal ball, but we have something better…THE WORD OF GOD.
THE SETTING UP OF THE KINGDOM
AT THE START OF THE MILLENNIUMFuture Event to come.
p.s, not fulfilledYou will not find this information in Rev. God did not reveal these details there. He revealed them through the prophet Ezekiel. Seek and ye shall find.
Ezekiel 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their very own land. (You may say, yes, this was already fulfilled in 1948, but read on)
Ezekiel 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all. (You may say, yes they are one nation now, and Israel were reformed in 1948….but it says ONE KING shall be king to them ALL. This is Christ. Christ is NOT their king currently, nor has he ever been king to them. They rejected him to this day. We all know this….so think)
Ezekiel 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves anymore with their idols, (has this been fulfilled? No) nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; (God calls them Sodom and Egypt now Rev 11:8) but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. (Listen to what God is telling us….I will CLEANSE THEM. Who? Israel. Not talking about gentiles here, but Israel. Physical Israel. Not spiritual Israelites, but physical ISRAEL.)
Ezekiel 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them, (Who's David?) and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgements, and observe my statutes, and do them. Is this fulfilled? No, so it's future
Ezekiel 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant (Israel), wherein, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince forever. (So who's David, their King or their Prince?)
Ezekiel 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. (Can you see how much God loves them also? God is showing us.)Ezekiel 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them, yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Ezekiel 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore. (I am just showing you these scriptures. They really need no interpretation. There's no code talk here or symbolism. It's pretty clear and straight forward)
Let's not be like the heathen that only believe this when they see it with their own eyes. Let's believe what God is revealing to us in advance, so we can also look forward to this undeserved mercy God will pour out on them also, just like he did with us.
to be continued.
Hi J42,Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Peace sister…….
March 30, 2013 at 12:02 am#340068journey42ParticipantHi Abe,
The Jews that accepted Christ are counted amongst the saints. They will be in the first resurrection.
These Jews that accepted Christ are also witnesses against Israel.Quote Hi J42, Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Even they knew back then that Israel was going to be restored. They were waiting for this, but Christ was telling them not to be concerned, nor told them when, for it was NOT going to happen in their lifetime like they were expecting. But for the last generation, which is now, it will be soon.
Quote 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. They were witnesses against Israel.
Quote Peace sister…….
Thank you Abe, Peace to you too.March 30, 2013 at 11:56 pm#340183WakeupParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Mar. 30 2013,11:02) Hi Abe, The Jews that accepted Christ are counted amongst the saints. They will be in the first resurrection.
These Jews that accepted Christ are also witnesses against Israel.Quote Hi J42, Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Even they knew back then that Israel was going to be restored. They were waiting for this, but Christ was telling them not to be concerned, nor told them when, for it was NOT going to happen in their lifetime like they were expecting. But for the last generation, which is now, it will be soon.
Quote 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. They were witnesses against Israel.
Quote Peace sister…….
Thank you Abe, Peace to you too.
J42.I suppose the apostles are not to know of the times untill they are babtised with the Holy spirit.
wakeup.
April 4, 2013 at 7:07 am#340789journey42Participant/continued
The setting up of the kingdom
at the Start of the MillenniumThe 2nd Coming
Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots.
Isaiah 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD:
Isaiah 11:3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
Isaiah 11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.To prove this is at the 2nd coming, not the first one
Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.Isaiah 11:5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reigns.
Isaiah 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid, and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together: and a little child shall lead them.[/color]
Isaiah 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox
Isaiah 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockarice's den.
Isaiah 11:9 They shall hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
You have just been given a glimpse of what is happening inside the holy camp (the camp of the saints during the 1000 years)
This is precious, just like picking up a diamond and holding on to it tightIsaiah 11:10 And in that day, there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious
This root of Jesse (Christ), will be on their flag, for all to see. The gentiles shall seek (gentiles = non jews) …they are the outside nations of the kingdom. And his rest is glorious, because the devil is locked up for a time, so no need to fight the enemy for a while. Just teach teach teach. Learn learn, learn. Cover the earth with the TRUTH, so there is no confusion, whether you follow or not. JUST ONE DOCTRINE
Isaiah 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
(The remnant is Israel, not the saints, as the saints are resurrected already)Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth
Isaiah 11:13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.
Isaiah 11:14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west: they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab: and the children of Ammon shall obey them (Christ is leading the holy camp to settle in their new land and to take over neighboring lands to enlarge their own borders, and they are going to do it that fast.)
Isaiah 11:15 And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea: and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod (You don't need a boat to go there now, just walk on over)
Isaiah 11:16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.
Jeremiah 31:9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
/continued
April 4, 2013 at 10:01 am#340797journey42Participant/continued.
The setting up of the kingdom
at the Start of the MillenniumIsaiah 12:1 And in that day thou shalt say, O LORD, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away, and thou comfortedst me.
Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.
Isaiah 12:3 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.
Isaiah 12:4 And in that day shall ye say, Praise the LORD, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted.
Isaiah 12:5 Sing unto the LORD; for he hath done excellent things: this is known in all the earth.
Isaiah 12:6 Cry out and shout, thou inhabitant of Zion: for great is the Holy One of Israel in the midst of thee.
April 4, 2013 at 6:33 pm#340816abeParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Mar. 29 2013,16:02) Hi Abe, The Jews that accepted Christ are counted amongst the saints. They will be in the first resurrection.
These Jews that accepted Christ are also witnesses against Israel.Quote Hi J42, Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Even they knew back then that Israel was going to be restored. They were waiting for this, but Christ was telling them not to be concerned, nor told them when, for it was NOT going to happen in their lifetime like they were expecting. But for the last generation, which is now, it will be soon.
Quote 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. They were witnesses against Israel.
Quote Peace sister…….
Thank you Abe, Peace to you too.
Hi J42,Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Jn.19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own [home].
Does this mean the marriage of Rev.21 Past Present Future?
Peace sister..
April 4, 2013 at 10:13 pm#340840Ed JParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Mar. 30 2013,11:02) Hi Abe, Quote Hi J42, Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Even they knew back then that Israel was going to be restored. They were waiting for this, but Christ was telling them not to be concerned, nor told them when, for it was NOT going to happen in their lifetime like they were expecting. But for the last generation, which is now, it will be soon.
Hi Journey42,Where does it say: 'the last generation' ?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgApril 5, 2013 at 3:11 am#340889WakeupParticipantQuote (abe @ April 05 2013,05:33) Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 29 2013,16:02) Hi Abe, The Jews that accepted Christ are counted amongst the saints. They will be in the first resurrection.
These Jews that accepted Christ are also witnesses against Israel.Quote Hi J42, Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Even they knew back then that Israel was going to be restored. They were waiting for this, but Christ was telling them not to be concerned, nor told them when, for it was NOT going to happen in their lifetime like they were expecting. But for the last generation, which is now, it will be soon.
Quote 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. They were witnesses against Israel.
Quote Peace sister…….
Thank you Abe, Peace to you too.
Hi J42,Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Jn.19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own [home].
Does this mean the marriage of Rev.21 Past Present Future?
Peace sister..
Abe.There is heavenly Jerusalem,and earthly jerusalem.
Heavenly jerusalem is free.Earthly Jerusalem is still in process.
We true worshippers are also in babylon,but
not *of* babylon. We are of Zion,we follow Gods laws.
Earthly Jerusalem also, will be made free,and holy.
When the earth has been renewed,she will come back down,and God will dwell on earth also.John 19:26. ? There is no prophetic connection with heavenly Jerusalem and Johns adopted mother.
wakeup.
April 5, 2013 at 3:27 am#340891WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ April 05 2013,09:13) Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 30 2013,11:02) Hi Abe, Quote Hi J42, Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Even they knew back then that Israel was going to be restored. They were waiting for this, but Christ was telling them not to be concerned, nor told them when, for it was NOT going to happen in their lifetime like they were expecting. But for the last generation, which is now, it will be soon.
Hi Journey42,Where does it say: 'the last generation' ?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.It does not say the last generation,
but it would be commonsense that the coming would be in the last generation.
The coming is also the harvest,and it is done only when the harvest is ripe.The harvest can never be done at seeding time.
wakeup.
April 5, 2013 at 3:35 am#340894abeParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,19:11) Quote (abe @ April 05 2013,05:33) Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 29 2013,16:02) Hi Abe, The Jews that accepted Christ are counted amongst the saints. They will be in the first resurrection.
These Jews that accepted Christ are also witnesses against Israel.Quote Hi J42, Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Even they knew back then that Israel was going to be restored. They were waiting for this, but Christ was telling them not to be concerned, nor told them when, for it was NOT going to happen in their lifetime like they were expecting. But for the last generation, which is now, it will be soon.
Quote 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. They were witnesses against Israel.
Quote Peace sister…….
Thank you Abe, Peace to you too.
Hi J42,Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Jn.19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own [home].
Does this mean the marriage of Rev.21 Past Present Future?
Peace sister..
Abe.There is heavenly Jerusalem,and earthly jerusalem.
Heavenly jerusalem is free.Earthly Jerusalem is still in process.
We true worshippers are also in babylon,but
not *of* babylon. We are of Zion,we follow Gods laws.
Earthly Jerusalem also, will be made free,and holy.
When the earth has been renewed,she will come back down,and God will dwell on earth also.John 19:26. ? There is no prophetic connection with heavenly Jerusalem and Johns adopted mother.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Is.62:1 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.
2And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
3Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.
4Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee
For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee:
Rev.21
Peace brother.
April 5, 2013 at 10:32 am#340917WakeupParticipantQuote (abe @ April 05 2013,14:35) Quote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,19:11) Quote (abe @ April 05 2013,05:33) Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 29 2013,16:02) Hi Abe, The Jews that accepted Christ are counted amongst the saints. They will be in the first resurrection.
These Jews that accepted Christ are also witnesses against Israel.Quote Hi J42, Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Even they knew back then that Israel was going to be restored. They were waiting for this, but Christ was telling them not to be concerned, nor told them when, for it was NOT going to happen in their lifetime like they were expecting. But for the last generation, which is now, it will be soon.
Quote 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. They were witnesses against Israel.
Quote Peace sister…….
Thank you Abe, Peace to you too.
Hi J42,Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Jn.19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own [home].
Does this mean the marriage of Rev.21 Past Present Future?
Peace sister..
Abe.There is heavenly Jerusalem,and earthly jerusalem.
Heavenly jerusalem is free.Earthly Jerusalem is still in process.
We true worshippers are also in babylon,but
not *of* babylon. We are of Zion,we follow Gods laws.
Earthly Jerusalem also, will be made free,and holy.
When the earth has been renewed,she will come back down,and God will dwell on earth also.John 19:26. ? There is no prophetic connection with heavenly Jerusalem and Johns adopted mother.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Is.62:1 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.
2And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
3Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.
4Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee
For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee:
Rev.21
Peace brother.
Abe.In the 1000yr Zion will burn as a lamp.
Their children(the remnants children) will accept the Lord from young.
Without being corrupted by some other religion,or god.God will not rest untill all has come to the truth.
QUOTE:
4Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.UNQUOTE:THE *LAND* SHALL NO MORE BE FORSAKEN;NO MORE DESOLATE.(THE LAND OF THE BELIEVERS(CHRISTIANS).
AT THE MOMENT IT IS DESOLATE.
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QUOTE:
5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.UNQUOTE:BRIDE AND GROOM IS USED AS A PARABLE.
SONS DONT MARRY FATHERS.THE FATHERS TEACHINGS WILL BE ACCEPTED BY THE SONS.
THEY WILL OBEY THEIR FATHERS TEACHINGS,AS VIRGINS,
NOT EVER CORRUPTED BY OTHER GODS.QUOTE:
For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee:UNQUOTE:WE KNOW THAT SONS DONT MARRY THEIR FATHERS.
THE SONS, AND ALSO DAUGHTERS WILL BE IN HARMONEY
WITH THEIR PARENTS. THEY WILL FOLLOW AND OBEY.
THERE WILL BE NO CONTROVERSYwakeup.
April 5, 2013 at 1:35 pm#340931journey42Participant/continued
Lets go back a chapter.
Isaiah 10:20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them (Satan); but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.
Isaiah 10:21 ….The remnant shall return,… even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.
Isaiah 10:22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea (Many of them), yet a remnant of them shall return (only a small amount shall come back …to Israel…): the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness. (consumption = use, consume,…decreed = law or order of equity…this decree made by God)
Isaiah 10:23 For the Lord GOD of hosts shall make a consumption, even determined, in the midst of all the land. (Law of the land)
Isaiah 10:24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, (Speaking to Israel now, before the 2nd coming) be not afraid of the Assyrian: (Satan) he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt (He will turn you into slaves again like he did before in Egypt).
Isaiah 10:25 For yet a very little while, (be patient) and the indignation shall cease, (he will be locked away for some time – 1000 yrs) and mine anger in their destruction (the false prophet, the beast, and babylon the great will be destroyed)
Isaiah 10:26 And the LORD of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him (Satan's men) according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and as his rod was upon the sea, so shall he lift it up after the manner of Egypt.(God will display his power and authority again like he did when he freed the Hebrews from Egypt)
Isiah 10:27 And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing.(Satan will be removed out of the way, in that day…the 2nd coming of Christ)
April 5, 2013 at 3:15 pm#340933abeParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,02:32) Quote (abe @ April 05 2013,14:35) Quote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,19:11) Quote (abe @ April 05 2013,05:33) Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 29 2013,16:02) Hi Abe, The Jews that accepted Christ are counted amongst the saints. They will be in the first resurrection.
These Jews that accepted Christ are also witnesses against Israel.Quote Hi J42, Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Even they knew back then that Israel was going to be restored. They were waiting for this, but Christ was telling them not to be concerned, nor told them when, for it was NOT going to happen in their lifetime like they were expecting. But for the last generation, which is now, it will be soon.
Quote 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. They were witnesses against Israel.
Quote Peace sister…….
Thank you Abe, Peace to you too.
Hi J42,Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Jn.19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own [home].
Does this mean the marriage of Rev.21 Past Present Future?
Peace sister..
Abe.There is heavenly Jerusalem,and earthly jerusalem.
Heavenly jerusalem is free.Earthly Jerusalem is still in process.
We true worshippers are also in babylon,but
not *of* babylon. We are of Zion,we follow Gods laws.
Earthly Jerusalem also, will be made free,and holy.
When the earth has been renewed,she will come back down,and God will dwell on earth also.John 19:26. ? There is no prophetic connection with heavenly Jerusalem and Johns adopted mother.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Is.62:1 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.
2And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
3Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.
4Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee
For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee:
Rev.21
Peace brother.
Abe.In the 1000yr Zion will burn as a lamp.
Their children(the remnants children) will accept the Lord from young.
Without being corrupted by some other religion,or god.God will not rest untill all has come to the truth.
QUOTE:
4Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.UNQUOTE:THE *LAND* SHALL NO MORE BE FORSAKEN;NO MORE DESOLATE.(THE LAND OF THE BELIEVERS(CHRISTIANS).
AT THE MOMENT IT IS DESOLATE.
****
QUOTE:
5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.UNQUOTE:BRIDE AND GROOM IS USED AS A PARABLE.
SONS DONT MARRY FATHERS.THE FATHERS TEACHINGS WILL BE ACCEPTED BY THE SONS.
THEY WILL OBEY THEIR FATHERS TEACHINGS,AS VIRGINS,
NOT EVER CORRUPTED BY OTHER GODS.QUOTE:
For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee:UNQUOTE:WE KNOW THAT SONS DONT MARRY THEIR FATHERS.
THE SONS, AND ALSO DAUGHTERS WILL BE IN HARMONEY
WITH THEIR PARENTS. THEY WILL FOLLOW AND OBEY.
THERE WILL BE NO CONTROVERSYwakeup.
Hi Wakeup,QUOTE:
5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.UNQUOTE:
BRIDE AND GROOM IS USED AS A PARABLE.
SONS DONT MARRY FATHERS.THE FATHERS TEACHINGS WILL BE ACCEPTED BY THE SONS.
THEY WILL OBEY THEIR FATHERS TEACHINGS,AS VIRGINS,
NOT EVER CORRUPTED BY OTHER GODS.Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the Mother of us all.
Where do you get Father?
Peace brother.
April 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm#340940WakeupParticipantQuote (abe @ April 06 2013,02:15) Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,02:32) Quote (abe @ April 05 2013,14:35) Quote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,19:11) Quote (abe @ April 05 2013,05:33) Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 29 2013,16:02) Hi Abe, The Jews that accepted Christ are counted amongst the saints. They will be in the first resurrection.
These Jews that accepted Christ are also witnesses against Israel.Quote Hi J42, Acts1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Even they knew back then that Israel was going to be restored. They were waiting for this, but Christ was telling them not to be concerned, nor told them when, for it was NOT going to happen in their lifetime like they were expecting. But for the last generation, which is now, it will be soon.
Quote 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. They were witnesses against Israel.
Quote Peace sister…….
Thank you Abe, Peace to you too.
Hi J42,Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Jn.19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own [home].
Does this mean the marriage of Rev.21 Past Present Future?
Peace sister..
Abe.There is heavenly Jerusalem,and earthly jerusalem.
Heavenly jerusalem is free.Earthly Jerusalem is still in process.
We true worshippers are also in babylon,but
not *of* babylon. We are of Zion,we follow Gods laws.
Earthly Jerusalem also, will be made free,and holy.
When the earth has been renewed,she will come back down,and God will dwell on earth also.John 19:26. ? There is no prophetic connection with heavenly Jerusalem and Johns adopted mother.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Is.62:1 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.
2And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
3Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.
4Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee
For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee:
Rev.21
Peace brother.
Abe.In the 1000yr Zion will burn as a lamp.
Their children(the remnants children) will accept the Lord from young.
Without being corrupted by some other religion,or god.God will not rest untill all has come to the truth.
QUOTE:
4Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.UNQUOTE:THE *LAND* SHALL NO MORE BE FORSAKEN;NO MORE DESOLATE.(THE LAND OF THE BELIEVERS(CHRISTIANS).
AT THE MOMENT IT IS DESOLATE.
****
QUOTE:
5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.UNQUOTE:BRIDE AND GROOM IS USED AS A PARABLE.
SONS DONT MARRY FATHERS.THE FATHERS TEACHINGS WILL BE ACCEPTED BY THE SONS.
THEY WILL OBEY THEIR FATHERS TEACHINGS,AS VIRGINS,
NOT EVER CORRUPTED BY OTHER GODS.QUOTE:
For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee:UNQUOTE:WE KNOW THAT SONS DONT MARRY THEIR FATHERS.
THE SONS, AND ALSO DAUGHTERS WILL BE IN HARMONEY
WITH THEIR PARENTS. THEY WILL FOLLOW AND OBEY.
THERE WILL BE NO CONTROVERSYwakeup.
Hi Wakeup,QUOTE:
5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.UNQUOTE:
BRIDE AND GROOM IS USED AS A PARABLE.
SONS DONT MARRY FATHERS.THE FATHERS TEACHINGS WILL BE ACCEPTED BY THE SONS.
THEY WILL OBEY THEIR FATHERS TEACHINGS,AS VIRGINS,
NOT EVER CORRUPTED BY OTHER GODS.Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the Mother of us all.
Where do you get Father?
Peace brother.
Abe.The *remnant* of the jews will multiply as the sand of the sea
and become a great nation,and the fathers will teach the children.wakeup.
April 5, 2013 at 7:29 pm#340941abeParticipantHi Wakeup,
5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.UNQUOTE:
BRIDE AND GROOM IS USED AS A PARABLE.
SONS DONT MARRY FATHERS.THE FATHERS TEACHINGS WILL BE ACCEPTED BY THE SONS.
THEY WILL OBEY THEIR FATHERS TEACHINGS,AS VIRGINS,
NOT EVER CORRUPTED BY OTHER GODS.Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the MOTHER of us all.
Where do you get Father?
Heavenly Jerusalem is the MOTHER.
I know you can Understand.
Peace brother.
April 5, 2013 at 8:16 pm#340946WakeupParticipantQuote (abe @ April 06 2013,06:29) Hi Wakeup, 5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.UNQUOTE:
BRIDE AND GROOM IS USED AS A PARABLE.
SONS DONT MARRY FATHERS.THE FATHERS TEACHINGS WILL BE ACCEPTED BY THE SONS.
THEY WILL OBEY THEIR FATHERS TEACHINGS,AS VIRGINS,
NOT EVER CORRUPTED BY OTHER GODS.Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the MOTHER of us all.
Where do you get Father?
Heavenly Jerusalem is the MOTHER.
I know you can Understand.
Peace brother.
Abe.Heavenly jerusalem is the *mother*,and God is the *father*.
God and his woman(his teachings;doctrine) produces children(spiritual children). Just as a father and a mother produces children(fleshly children).Gods children will multiply through *his woman*(teachings) in the 1000yr reign.
In the 1000yr reign the jewish fathers will teach their children,and they will accept from young age.
GODS DOCTRINE IS HIS WOMAN,AND SHE WILL BRING FORTH MANY SPIRITUAL CHILDREN,IN THE 2ND RESURRECTION.wakeup.
April 6, 2013 at 3:48 am#340995abeParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,12:16) Quote (abe @ April 06 2013,06:29) Hi Wakeup, 5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.UNQUOTE:
BRIDE AND GROOM IS USED AS A PARABLE.
SONS DONT MARRY FATHERS.THE FATHERS TEACHINGS WILL BE ACCEPTED BY THE SONS.
THEY WILL OBEY THEIR FATHERS TEACHINGS,AS VIRGINS,
NOT EVER CORRUPTED BY OTHER GODS.Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the MOTHER of us all.
Where do you get Father?
Heavenly Jerusalem is the MOTHER.
I know you can Understand.
Peace brother.
Abe.Heavenly jerusalem is the *mother*,and God is the *father*.
God and his woman(his teachings;doctrine) produces children(spiritual children). Just as a father and a mother produces children(fleshly children).Gods children will multiply through *his woman*(teachings) in the 1000yr reign.
In the 1000yr reign the jewish fathers will teach their children,and they will accept from young age.
GODS DOCTRINE IS HIS WOMAN,AND SHE WILL BRING FORTH MANY SPIRITUAL CHILDREN,IN THE 2ND RESURRECTION.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,(quote)
Gods children will multiply through *his woman*(teachings) in the 1000yr reign.Gods children cant multiply until the 1000 yr. reign?
Peace brother.
April 6, 2013 at 5:43 am#341004journey42Participant/continued
The setting up of the kingdom
at the Start of the MillenniumThese scriptures are not in any order. They are scattered throughout the old testament. I am typing them out for you as I come across them. You have read scriptures in this thread regarding the “remnant”. These remnants are chosen of every generation and have Israel bloodlines. They will be brought back to life in the flesh, (not spirit) and taken into the kingdom that will be set up in Israel, and will be ruled over by Christ and the saints. God has hand picked these ones, to introduce them to Christ, and give mercy to them. God is doing this for his name's sake. He is finishing what he started with Israel. Most died before Christ came, and they will get that chance now to know him, for no man can enter the kingdom of God unless he go through the son. This applies to them now too. They in turn will teach the nations that survived Christ's wrath, these nations exist outside of Israel and God also calls them gentiles, and the heathen.
In brackets, is the interpretation of the scripture by myself. You can ignore if you like, but it is just a helping hand, for you do not have the next 20 years available to work it out. Knowledge must increase soon and fast because time is running out. My words are not as important, as the Lords words set out here in print, uncorrupted.
Isaiah 14:1 For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob (Israel) and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land; and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
Isaiah 14:2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids” and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors (God has turned it around now for these remnants. They will be waited upon)Isaiah 14:3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou was made to serve (Just before the 2nd Coming, Israel was invaded by the end time beast (10 kings), and the false prophet, and then the Medes invaded and oppressed them further)
Isaiah 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon (Satan), and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!(Babylon the great no more…gone)
Isaiah 14:5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the scepter of the rulers (Their dominion taken way)
Isaiah 14:6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stoke (Satan), he that ruled the nations in anger (Satan), is persecuted (put in prison for a thousand years), and none hindereth (no one could help him)
Isaiah 14:7 The whole earth is at rest (he is in prison, taken out of the way), and is quiet: they break forth into singing (They are rejoicing for the enemy gone for the time being)
Isaiah 14:8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us (We are safe for now, no war, no fires, no one to destroy us)
Isaiah 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming (judement day he will be thrown into the lake of fire): it stirreth up the dead for thee (They will be woken up to be judged too), even all the chief ones of the earth; (everyone) it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.(no-body misses out on judgement day, not even you kings)Isaiah 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? (the dead who are raised out of their graves to face their judgement will see Satan there also)
Isaiah 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.(Oh Satan you are covered in death)Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground which didst weaken the nations. (now we know who God is referring to when he addressed the King of Babylon)
April 6, 2013 at 6:20 am#341005WakeupParticipantQuote (abe @ April 06 2013,14:48) Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2013,12:16) Quote (abe @ April 06 2013,06:29) Hi Wakeup, 5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.UNQUOTE:
BRIDE AND GROOM IS USED AS A PARABLE.
SONS DONT MARRY FATHERS.THE FATHERS TEACHINGS WILL BE ACCEPTED BY THE SONS.
THEY WILL OBEY THEIR FATHERS TEACHINGS,AS VIRGINS,
NOT EVER CORRUPTED BY OTHER GODS.Gal.4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the MOTHER of us all.
Where do you get Father?
Heavenly Jerusalem is the MOTHER.
I know you can Understand.
Peace brother.
Abe.Heavenly jerusalem is the *mother*,and God is the *father*.
God and his woman(his teachings;doctrine) produces children(spiritual children). Just as a father and a mother produces children(fleshly children).Gods children will multiply through *his woman*(teachings) in the 1000yr reign.
In the 1000yr reign the jewish fathers will teach their children,and they will accept from young age.
GODS DOCTRINE IS HIS WOMAN,AND SHE WILL BRING FORTH MANY SPIRITUAL CHILDREN,IN THE 2ND RESURRECTION.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,(quote)
Gods children will multiply through *his woman*(teachings) in the 1000yr reign.Gods children cant multiply until the 1000 yr. reign?
Peace brother.
Abe.1000yrs is along time to multiply.
They will be as the sand of the sea,
and the stars of heaven.
All will be in the Lord.
They will be teaching the gentiles out side the kingdom(paradise for the flesh).for a 1000yrs,and many will come to the Lord.
Also many will reject the Lord.When the 1000yrs are expired,satan will be let loose to draw
them to himself(the unbelievers).
Satan will gather them to one place to surround the camp of the saints,this is Gog and Magog.
All will be destroyed by God himself.Second resurrection of all the dead of all generations.
And the living. Satan cast in the fire with him the goats.
The sheep will be accepted.
They will be changed into spirit.
They also now have inherited the kingdom of heaven.But the earth itself also needs purifying.
The earth will be melted,and the heavens also.
Now we have a new heaven and a new earth.Time for God to come down to earth.
wakeup.
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