The New Testament Canon

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Where did God promise to ensure the compilation of the bible?
Where have I supported the inclusion of other books?
But I would value your assessment of them.

[Not3in1]

Would you also value my assessment of some of the books put out by Mohammad?
Or maybe a Johnny-come-lately like Joseph Smith?

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2009,09:36)

Where have I supported the inclusion of other books?

Nick, your quote is below:

Hi david,
If you can prove the Holy Spirit has defined the canon I would like to see that proof as I wonder if we are robbed by not including some others.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
I am too easy a target.
Why not try the books?

[kerwin]

The New Testament Cannon was decided by heretics because the scripture we have were handed over to unbelievers and they so remain to this day.

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2009,09:48)

Hi not3, I am too easy a target. Why not try the books?

Hypocrisy comes to mind….

You preach to stay within “what is written” to find God, yet you believe that what is written is potentially not inspired of God. It's a bit of a quandary, isn't is? Further, the hypocrisy comes into play when you nearly condemn other's for searching outside of the bible for truth. Perhaps you need to rethink your catch-all-come-back of, “Is it written?”.

Because if truth can be found elsewhere….{{Can of Worms being cracked open}}

Brother, I don't think that you are an easy target. After all, you are seeking something to believe in. I do think that the bible has become an easy target, however.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
I am not used to you being judgemental but do so if you must.

I am perfectly happy to be confined to what is now accepted as true.

So have you read any yet?

[Not3in1]

Hypocrisy is hypocrisy.  We all are guilty of it, Nick.  Perhaps it is a good reminder to not be as stiff necked in our thinking or judgement of other's?  When someone is searching for truth and using other means, whether it be non-biblical books, logic, philosophers……  Maybe you will be a bit more forgiving of them, and not so judgemental.   That is, if truth can be found in places other-than the bible.

You say, “I am perfectly happy to be confined to what is now accepted as true.”  I find that so facinating!  A very curious statement, indeed!  Our forefather's were happy to be confined to their truth.  Generations that followed were happy to be confined to their truth as well.  Funny though, how what is “accepted as true/truth” keeps changing through time.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
If every man can be proved liar then count me in.
To what end is what beats me but go for it
But are we not studying the holy books?
Was not Enoch quoted by Jude?

[Not3in1]

Nick,
I have no idea what the first part of your post is implying?

If a portion of a book seems to quote the bible, is that book “holy”?  For there have been many a philosopher who have quoted the bible {{Crack!  goes the Can of Worms!}}

In fact, there are other earlier religions that claim the bible and it's writer's quoted THEM! What do we make of that? Would that lend validity to the other religion?

Sorry, this doesn't add up to me.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Yes confusion easily breeds from doubts.

[Not3in1]

Nick,

So you don't want to make yourself clear then? You would rather fall back on what you normally do, which is belittle? Very well. But it builds no one up but yourself.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Why is it that you take it personally?

Doubt is our mutual enemy.
But our God is not of confusion but of peace.

[Not3in1]

Nick,

You and I are the only ones talking here.
I had a question about your post – it didn't make sense. That doesn't mean that that confusion is an offspring of my doubt. It means you needed to make yourself clearer!

You're off track here.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Welcome to the human race.
Should the catholic church define which books are inspired for us?

[Not3in1]

I think the Catholic Church has as much genuine authority from God as any local church has.

But the Catholic Church members didn't define the canon, did they?  If they were under the inspiration of God, then any idiot would do. What God wanted accomplished would certainly be accomplished.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Really?
How many bodies of Christ are there?
There is no division in Christ but denominations are all divisions.

[Not3in1]

Agreed.
Churches dot tiny towns like the stars light up the sky. Crazy.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Did Jesus quote from Jubilees and other sources?
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/deuterocanon.html
http://hamptonroads.com/2008/06/what-did-jesus-consider-scripture

[NickHassan]

Hi,
So did the apostles apparently
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=30920

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