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hi TT,
The door to salvation and entry to the church is through now joining the body of Jesus.[Jn10]
As Mt 25 shows the door closes when the bridegroom returns.
Did you miss out and it has all been uselessness?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 07 2009,07:23) hi TT,
The door to salvation and entry to the church is through now joining the body of Jesus.[Jn10]
As Mt 25 shows the door closes when the bridegroom returns.
Did you miss out and it has all been uselessness?
Yes because the Bride, the new Jerusalem has descended from heaven to the new earth.thinker
Hi TT,
God takes His crop and moves on.
Once the door closes of course there is still salvation in the great tribulation but only through suffering and martyrdom.[Rev7]Thus we are strongly urged to enter the sabbath rest now. [Heb4]
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 07 2009,07:24) Hi TT,
Jesus offered that water while he walked the earth.[Jn7]
Jesus speaking prophetically said “I will give you water to drink.” It was not yet available until the new covenant age (the new heaven and earth) came. Before the new heaven and earth came men were saved only in “earnest.” Paul said that they were saved only in “earnest.”Salvation FULLY came when the Bride descended from heaven. It was not until then that men actually drank of the waters of salvation. The living waters will flow from God's throne and from the Bride forever and ever. God will save a people for Himself in all generations forever and ever.
thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 07 2009,07:11) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 07 2009,07:07) Hi TT,
The door closes when the bridegroom returns.[mt25]
The opportunity for men to be reborn into Christ is while the head of the body is with God.
Matthew 25 does not teach that salvation comes to an end when the Lord returns Nick. It says that God was finished with that generation. You comment on Matthew 25 without chapter 24. You cannot divide the discourse like that.thinker
If you re talking about he Jewish people, God is not finish with them. He will graft them back in. Read Romans.
This earth will burn with a fire like an oven Malachi says. And the Saints will walk on their ashes,
Malachi 4:1 Behold the day is coming
Burning like an oven, and all the proud. yes all the wickedly will be stubble. And the day which is coming shall burn them up.” Says the LORD of Hosts. ” That will leave
them neither root nor branch.Also the meek will inherit the earth. I guess they have a big job to clean it up. Scripture really does not say how it will be. I believe that there will be Human flesh, since there will be the tree of life. Otherwise if all are going to be Spirit beings, what is the tree of life for?
Revelation says that we will have no more sorrow and no more tears. The New Jerusalem with God will come down to this earth. All will be made new. We will see how it will be done. Did you ever think why God created the Planets the way they are now? Maybe He will have all made beautiful like earth. Just my imagination.
Peace and Loe IreneNick said:
Quote God takes His crop and moves on.
Your god has a limited crop. My God reaps men for Himself for “thousands of generations” (Psalm 105: 8-10).
thinker
Hi TT,
Few enter the millenium to be kings and priests but that invitation is the central message of Jesus.[Rev 20, 2 Tim 2.11f]
Many many more will be saved but by suffering [Rev7] and by the merciful decision of God.[Mt25]Quote (georg @ Nov. 07 2009,07:38) Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 07 2009,07:11) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 07 2009,07:07) Hi TT,
The door closes when the bridegroom returns.[mt25]
The opportunity for men to be reborn into Christ is while the head of the body is with God.
Matthew 25 does not teach that salvation comes to an end when the Lord returns Nick. It says that God was finished with that generation. You comment on Matthew 25 without chapter 24. You cannot divide the discourse like that.thinker
If you re talking about he Jewish people, God is not finish with them. He will graft them back in. Read Romans.
This earth will burn with a fire like an oven Malachi says. And the Saints will walk on their ashes,
Malachi 4:1 Behold the day is coming
Burning like an oven, and all the proud. yes all the wickedly will be stubble. And the day which is coming shall burn them up.” Says the LORD of Hosts. ” That will leave
them neither root nor branch.Also the meek will inherit the earth. I guess they have a big job to clean it up. Scripture really does not say how it will be. I believe that there will be Human flesh, since there will be the tree of life. Otherwise if all are going to be Spirit beings, what is the tree of life for?
Revelation says that we will have no more sorrow and no more tears. The New Jerusalem with God will come down to this earth. All will be made new. We will see how it will be done. Did you ever think why God created the Planets the way they are now? Maybe He will have all made beautiful like earth. Just my imagination.
Peace and Loe Irene
Irene,
I know Romans inside and out. Paul said that God reserved for Himself just a remnant from Israel. Then the judgment came upon the rest of them in ad70 because they rejected their Messiah. God finished with them as a covenant nation. Jesus cursed them so they would no longer bring forth fruit. He said that the kingdom would be taken away from them and be given to another nation. The nation which possesses the kingdom both now and forever is the Christian Church.Paul said that God will be glorified IN THE CHURCH forever and ever (Eph. 3:21). He will not be glorified again in Israel
thinker
Hi TT,
We are to be grafted into true Israel.
They will see and mourn over the one they have pierced.
God will bring back his chosen people even from death to rule them through His Son.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 07 2009,08:01) Hi TT,
We are to be grafted into true Israel.
They will see and mourn over the one they have pierced.
God will bring back his chosen people even from death to rule them through His Son.
They did see Him and mourn over Him. Now they're in the lake of fire.thinker
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