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- January 24, 2012 at 11:33 am#303435ProclaimerParticipant
As in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the son of man.
Does this include the Nephilim?
Here is a view point from Chuck Missler.January 25, 2012 at 8:28 am#303436seekingtruthParticipantT8,
Thanks for the videos, The Bible speaks of “giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of devils”, as “ufology” winds its way from the lunatic fringe of research, and (like evolution) it becomes accepted as mainstream “science”. I believe the Great Deception of the End Times will be extraterrestrial belief, it has a veneer of scientific credibility and it can be used to explain away God and the end time events. (No I've never seen a UFO) (also most of the above I clipped from somewhere a while ago)Wm
January 25, 2012 at 10:50 am#303437Ed JParticipantHi T8,
Great series, though he gets a little off topic
by speaking of an alleged 'rapture' in part 11.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 25, 2012 at 1:16 pm#303438ProclaimerParticipantAn alien deception would be a great lie that if the world bought it, Satan could convince man that he was engineered by a different creator and they could accept demons or devils as alien beings. You could use the bible to support it, such as Elijah being taken by a chariot and Jesus and army coming on horses (mode of transport).
It would be a deceiving wonder that could be accomplished using technology.
Since I first became a believer I was aware that a great lie would be sold to the world. Not sure if it would be this elaborate though. Still, it would be the perfect false explanation to deceive Atheists and Believers alike.
We know however that the elect will not be deceived.
January 26, 2012 at 1:04 am#303439terrariccaParticipantAll
any one that think that he will prevent any disaster to reach him ,is out of is mind,
but any one that trust in the God of Christ and follow his will and LOVE him with all his heart,mind and soul and in truth,
DOES NOT HAVE TO WORRY GOD LOVE THOSE HOW LOVE HIM AND HE ALSO TAKE CARE OF THEM,
just as Noah was saved ,and LOT so Gods people will be saved .
Pierre
June 21, 2012 at 10:07 am#303440ProclaimerParticipantJune 21, 2012 at 1:05 pm#303445WakeupParticipantT8.
As in the days of Noah,so it will be as in the days of the sons of man.
We know that the old world was destroyed in the days o Noah by the flood.So in at the coming,this world (babylon the great)(the system,not the earth itself)will be destroyed NOT by water,but by the power of God.
The earth will reel to and fro like a drunkard,hailstones by the weight of a talent,pestilence,etc.But before that happened,there will be great tribulations on this earth,wars starting with jerusalem(Jer 25:29) will be taken by the kings of the north(10 kings empire,and the false prohet as the leader).The dreadful beast in Dan.7:7.that will be cast into the fire at the coming.(verse11.).(rev19:20.).
The false prophet will occupy israel for 3and a half years only.(rev11:2).
To build his temple,but first the dome must be destroyed,
and this will cause the kings of the medes and allies to stand up. This will be the wars of wars,no flesh shall be saved if it continues, and therefore the coming will stop the war.Now here is satans plan to deceive us humans to war against our creator;which is the most stupid thing to do.
Here is the ufo phenomena used by satan,to deceive us,believing that the coming of christ is an attack of the bad alliens.This is the great delusion.When they see the sign in the sky,they will stop the war and gather themselves to gether to fight the invader as they see it,which is the Lord. We must watch for this great delusion coming.
wakeup.
June 22, 2012 at 10:14 pm#303664GeneBalthropParticipantTo all……..As in the days of Noah so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of Man. This is reference to the unawareness of the time Jesus returns and has nothing to do with any aliens at all.
Mat24:37-39….> But as the days of Noah so shall also be the coming of the Son of Man be. 38, For as in the days that were before the flood , they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, “until” the day Noah entered into the ark. 39, And knew (NOT), “UNTIL” the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be
Nothing in this indicates any fallen angels cohabiting with anyone , but is referencing the suddenness of the event of Jesus' return , this should be clear by the overall context of what Jesus was saying.
Another scripture that relates to his return is where it say ” as lightning comes out of the east and shines unto the west so shall the coming of the Son of Man Be That also is a sudden event you can not anticipate it , it takes place in a flash a sudden event.
My advice to all is not get to carried away by all these Speculators and false assumption going around. Jesus was simple talking about the suddenness and unawareness of people dwelling on this earth at his return, nothing else IMO.
Peace and love to you all ……………………gene
June 22, 2012 at 10:24 pm#303665GeneBalthropParticipantT8………One thing he did bring out which i believe may be true is this concept of dimensions that exist, there could be dimensions we simply can not see or are aware of and Being could pass through to our dimension , that concept does have some merit. I believe Ishtari mention some of this as i recall in the Do Spirit have Bodies threads. There may well be Bing's existing in different dimension that can pass form one dimension to another, like angels but i still believe they are Physical Beings with Spirit (IN) them though. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………….gene
June 22, 2012 at 11:08 pm#303674mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Gene Balthrop @ June 22 2012,16:14) To all……..As in the days of Noah so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of Man. This is reference to the unawareness of the time Jesus returns and has nothing to do with any aliens at all.
I agree, Gene. I don't make a claim about Satan convincing us that the coming Jesus is an alien invader that must be destroyed, for that would be a crafty little trick that I wouldn't put past him.But IMO, the words Jesus spoke had to do with his coming being a big surprise. Just like in Noah's day, people will be going about their day to day business as usual. His coming will take us all by surprise, just like the flood took those of Noah's day by surprise.
That's why Jesus warns us to always be about our Master's business, so when he does surprise us with his coming, we will already be doing the right thing at that time.
June 22, 2012 at 11:29 pm#303682NickHassanParticipantHi,
I think the ones most surprised will be those religious people who thought their devotion or knowledge or spiritual abilities saved them.
Obedience and submission is the only choice we are given that is useful.June 22, 2012 at 11:51 pm#303684kerwinParticipantTo all;
It is an untruth to claim that all sons of God are angels. In Job angels are called by the name of the sons of God but in the Five Books of Law it is the Hebrew people whom are called the children of the most high. Genesis is one of the Five Books while Job was inspired to be written later in order to serve in teaching to observe the Five Books.
In the new testament; what is the difference between a child of man and a child of God?
June 23, 2012 at 12:03 am#303687NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
True all angels are not for some are cast from heaven[Rev12]
But Gen 6.2 speaks of angelic sons.June 23, 2012 at 1:02 am#303696WakeupParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ June 23 2012,09:14) To all……..As in the days of Noah so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of Man. This is reference to the unawareness of the time Jesus returns and has nothing to do with any aliens at all. Mat24:37-39….> But as the days of Noah so shall also be the coming of the Son of Man be. 38, For as in the days that were before te flood , they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, “until” the day Noah entered into the ark. 39, And knew “UNTIL” the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be
Nothing in this indicates any fallen angels cohabiting with anyone , but is referencing the suddenness of the event of Jesus' return , this should be clear by the overall context of what Jesus was saying.
Another scripture that relates to his return is where it say ” as lightning comes out of the east and shines unto the west so shall the coming of the Son of Man Be That also is a sudden event you can not anticipate it , it takes place in a flash a sudden event.
My advice to all is not get to carried away by all these Speculators and false assumption going around. Jesus was simple talking about the suddenness and unawareness of people dwelling on this earth at his return, nothing else IMO.
Peace and love to you all ……………………gene
GeneBYou need to reed genesis ch.6.It tells you why God had to flood the earth.
wakeup.
June 23, 2012 at 1:53 am#303702kerwinParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2012,06:03) Hi KW,
True all angels are not for some are cast from heaven[Rev12]
But Gen 6.2 speaks of angelic sons.
Nick;Why do you believe that?
June 23, 2012 at 5:13 am#303727NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
The sons of God came into the daughters of men and giants and utter rebellion resulted.
Perhaps the book of Enoch would help.June 23, 2012 at 1:36 pm#303772GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ June 23 2012,12:02) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 23 2012,09:14) To all……..As in the days of Noah so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of Man. This is reference to the unawareness of the time Jesus returns and has nothing to do with any aliens at all. Mat24:37-39….> But as the days of Noah so shall also be the coming of the Son of Man be. 38, For as in the days that were before te flood , they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, “until” the day Noah entered into the ark. 39, And knew “UNTIL” the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be
Nothing in this indicates any fallen angels cohabiting with anyone , but is referencing the suddenness of the event of Jesus' return , this should be clear by the overall context of what Jesus was saying.
Another scripture that relates to his return is where it say ” as lightning comes out of the east and shines unto the west so shall the coming of the Son of Man Be That also is a sudden event you can not anticipate it , it takes place in a flash a sudden event.
My advice to all is not get to carried away by all these Speculators and false assumption going around. Jesus was simple talking about the suddenness and unawareness of people dwelling on this earth at his return, nothing else IMO.
Peace and love to you all ……………………gene
GeneBYou need to reed genesis ch.6.It tells you why God had to flood the earth.
wakeup.
Wakeup………I am not speaking of the conditions existing in Genesis at all, nor was Jesus when he spoke those words. He was relating to the suddenness of His return and that was the main subject he was dealing with was it not? Forcing the text to mean what it is not saying or implying is a great error here and in all religions. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………………….gene
June 23, 2012 at 11:56 pm#303850kerwinParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2012,11:13) Hi KW,
The sons of God came into the daughters of men and giants and utter rebellion resulted.
Perhaps the book of Enoch would help.
Nick;Jesus teaches us that angels neither marry or are given in marriage. I believe that you too hold he tells the truth.
I have read portions of some of the versions of two or books of Enoch. From what I have read they appear to be adulterated by Greek myth as one or more giants is 300 cubits tall. That is an dramatization of the height given for those Giants mentioned after the flood. We even have the later such giants walking among us today; if you look at a list of the worlds most tallest men and women. These men and women, who are a mere 5-6 cubits tall, often suffer physical ailments due to their height. A miracle from God would allow these hypothetical giants to live and function as all things are possible for him but there is no Scriptural evidence to support the book of Enoch's claim.
We have already spoken of the John the Baptist being spoken of as the greatest born of women but less than those born of God by the Spirit. It is also clear that those born of God are forbidden to marry those born of women; for they have nothing in common. Scripture states it was men that were wicked. There is no mention of angels being wicked.
Genesis 6:5
King James Version (KJV)5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
The giants themselves are not said to be wicked but instead are called mighty men of renown.
Genesis 6:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
In the same verse we are taught they were in the days of the flood and after that. The size of the bed of one of these later giants was 9 cubits long.
There are two lines of humanity at that time; one is the line of Cain; the other the line of Seth. Which of these lines would God call his children?
June 24, 2012 at 12:08 am#303852mikeboll64BlockedQuote (kerwin @ June 23 2012,17:56) The giants themselves are not said to be wicked but instead are called mighty men of renown.
Hitler was a mighty man of renown. So was Napoleon Bonaparte – all 5'6″ of him.Just sayin'.
June 24, 2012 at 1:01 am#303857WakeupParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ June 24 2012,00:36) Quote (Wakeup @ June 23 2012,12:02) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 23 2012,09:14) To all……..As in the days of Noah so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of Man. This is reference to the unawareness of the time Jesus returns and has nothing to do with any aliens at all. Mat24:37-39….> But as the days of Noah so shall also be the coming of the Son of Man be. 38, For as in the days that were before te flood , they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, “until” the day Noah entered into the ark. 39, And knew “UNTIL” the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be
Nothing in this indicates any fallen angels cohabiting with anyone , but is referencing the suddenness of the event of Jesus' return , this should be clear by the overall context of what Jesus was saying.
Another scripture that relates to his return is where it say ” as lightning comes out of the east and shines unto the west so shall the coming of the Son of Man Be That also is a sudden event you can not anticipate it , it takes place in a flash a sudden event.
My advice to all is not get to carried away by all these Speculators and false assumption going around. Jesus was simple talking about the suddenness and unawareness of people dwelling on this earth at his return, nothing else IMO.
Peace and love to you all ……………………gene
GeneBYou need to reed genesis ch.6.It tells you why God had to flood the earth.
wakeup.
Wakeup………I am not speaking of the conditions existing in Genesis at all, nor was Jesus when he spoke those words. He was relating to the suddenness of His return and that was the main subject he was dealing with not . Forcing the text to mean what it is not saying or implying is a great error here and in all religions. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………………….gene
Hi GeneB.I can see now what you are bringing across.
But the suddenness of the flood is because of the ignorance.It will be not so in the last days for the well informed.
There are prophesies that informed us what things are going to happen before the coming.The surprise would be to the ignorant.
The surprise is for the ones that did not keep the light burning.Through understanding the prophesies we can know when and how.This is what is lacking in the christian world.
wakeup.
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